Mafia TBT Mafia III: The Murder Before Christmas [Game Over/Town Win]

Kippla said:
I actually wouldn't try to direct attention because that makes you more suspicious that you are just now pointing a finger at some random player because you are desperate. You might just be attacked by the opposing side with no reason, because they'll do anything possible to get a good player out of the way.
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This is absolutely incorrect. You know what the worst type of lynch is? The lynch of a confirmed innocent.Others may not know, but I know I am a confirmed innocent. Therefore, I will do everything I can to stop myself getting lynched. Even if the situation is absolutely dire, I won't go down without a fight. That is simply not pro-town play. That does not mean pulling a 3DSfan134 Game 1 revengevoting hissy fit (begins here) which does nothing for your case and does nothing for town either. No, I would push my strongest case out, so that when I do get lynched and flip innocent, I have at least given town something to work with.

Kippla said:
I didn't say you were less experienced, I said I had never seen your play style in various situations. But at this point, point 2 is more likely considering you have plenty of supporters. That's why some people are hesitant to vote for you. You have played many games of Mafia on other sites and you know more than the rest of us. You might use some of that unknown knowledge to help you trick us. That's the main fear.
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Are you saying I've held back in some way in my campaign/gameplan post? Look at my post, it is the most detailed town playbook anyone has posted in any game so far on TBT. Does it even sound like I've held back anywhere in it? If so, please point it out.

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FoxWolf64 said:
Only make promises you can keep, Karla. Don't overshoot yourself.
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Why the flying feck would I make promises I know I can't keep, knowing that I will be fully scrutinised by a quite frankly paranoid town who will probably lynch me if I cough without permission.

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Kippla said:
Those were actually two separate things, I didn't make a space between them. But if you were suspected and you were Mafia, it's possible you'd point fingers at someone else randomly, making you even more suspicious. I did ask Karla what he would do, and all he said was that he'd ask and discuss why he was suspected. Then, he'd go and look for solid evidence to question someone else. If you panicked though, the first thing is probably what would happen.
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I can only remember on one occasion you asking me what I would do if I was accused. My response was:
I will naturally defend myself and destroy any argument thrown against me.
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I do not recall saying the things you claim I did, and if you can find the post where I did, I will be happy to clarify it.

You seem to be under the impression that I will just be sitting here with my fingers up my butthole not even attempting to find the scum until I'm put under pressure. I have and will be actively looking for scum all game.
 
KarlaKGB said:
Why the flying feck would I make promises I know I can't keep, knowing that I will be fully scrutinised by a quite frankly paranoid town who will probably lynch me if I cough without permission.
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That's it, I'm withdrawing my vote and voting for VillageDweller instead. You're pretty much saying that you're some kind of god and everybody has to vote for you. And to answer your question, to get elected in the first place. That's what Jubs and Kayla did last game, and you know what happened afterward. To me, it's beginning to look like your trying too hard to be elected, saying you're the only one who should be trusted. If you get elected and you turn out to be mafia, then shame on the town. Instead, I'm going for my second option, VillageDweller. Although he hasn't survived all the way through during the last 2 games, he has been a valuable source, like when he pointed out Kayla being the Godfather. So at the end of the day, VillageDweller is a better candidate at this point.
 
VD and Kayla are good friends I don't think him calling Kayla out as godfather is any sort of evidence that he's some amazing sleuth (sorry Harry)

When last game started me and Lauren called each other mafia, but that was because we're friends.

Stop trying to say Karla has some sort of God complex just because he's one of the only candidates actually making sense in his posts.

Like I said before, we need Karla because of his experience. If he steps out of line, the town can always lynch him.

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Also, he's not trying too hard.
Everyone is acting like little paranoid sheep and he's getting fingers pointed at him in every direction. He's defending himself.
 
My vote is going to come in for VD, not because I dislike Karla, but because VD is very analytical and is a good player. Last game, Harry made a good point about a Godfather, which everyone ignored. However, Oath's nomination kind of scares me, but I guess everyone should be scared of electing two Mafia in the office. Like Karla has said, just because Mafia is elected doesn't mean they will do bad things. iLoveYou pertains to this, the only flaw is that she didn't keep her promises. Anyway, Karla and VD make a very good pair in the office! For you paranoid people out there: If the mayor does something wrong (not just one mistake you can move on from. I mean something huge, like all the lynches being Townies and Blue Roles), we can just lynch them and get it over with, like Pally stated. Nonetheless, electing a mayor is a big decision. We're screwed if the Mayor flips Mafia from a confirmed role check or if they're awful at Mayor.
 
FoxWolf64 said:
Yes. Yes I am. He's trying way too hard to be elected. So honestly I don't think he can be trusted.
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I'm done with you. You probably think you're being incredibly clever, unravelling my entire scheme of double and triple bluffs. Take a step back. Look at everything I have posted. Look at my contributions to the game. My campaign post. My town playbook. What is the first conclusion you arrive at? If it is still "Karla is Mafia because he is being too pro-town", then you have completely the wrong mindset for this game.
 
Can I just point out that VD called Kayla out for godfather for like one day then dropped it??
How does that make him a better candidate than Karla, I don't understand.
 
Yeah he was killed by Lauren on Night 2, but on Day 2 he didn't even vote for Kayla
He voted for beary

As in, he dropped the whole godfather thing.

I hope you can see why I'm convinced that him calling out Kayla was just a case of two friends teasing each other.

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Also he TOLD Kayla he was a blue

HOW IS HE TRUSTWORTHY?
 
At this moment in time, my vote lies with Karla, but I would really like to hear more from Trundle before casting my final vote. I think Karla has made some really good promises, and if we all look out carefully for if he isn't keeping them, we can lynch him. If not, then hopefully it all goes well. His plan for the town has been more in depth and detailed, and also analytical, than any other candidate I've seen. But my mind can be changed.
 
I feel like I will vote for Karla as he has made one of the most intense playbook of Mafia and it seems like it will be very promising.
However, Trundle seems fitting for Sheriff so after this fun birthday is over, I hope we can hear from him soon as possible.
 
@Pally: I have my doubts about it being friendly teasing.

But regardless, I think what caused his death was that he roleclaimed to Kayla afterwards, so his suspicion was kinda short-lived.
 
pallycake said:
Yeah he was killed by Lauren on Night 2, but on Day 2 he didn't even vote for Kayla
He voted for beary

As in, he dropped the whole godfather thing.

I hope you can see why I'm convinced that him calling out Kayla was just a case of two friends teasing each other.

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Also he TOLD Kayla he was a blue

HOW IS HE TRUSTWORTHY?
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LITERALLY EVERYBODY TOLD KAYLA OR SOMEONE KAYLA TRUSTED THAT THEY WERE BLUE.

To be honest, I'm glad that I got the ball rolling on someone else. Geez, it was just votes for KARLA KARLA KARLA and I mean, guys, we kind of needed someone else to vote for so we can have a sheriff and not just accidentally vote in a placeholder vote.
 
Thunder said:
@Pally: I have my doubts about it being friendly teasing.

But regardless, I think what caused his death was that he roleclaimed to Kayla afterwards, so his suspicion was kinda short-lived.
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Then why would he drop it?

He's using it as a basis for his campaign, but he never even pursued it. How are people finding VD trustworthy, I don't understand.
 
BlueLeaf said:
My vote is going to come in for VD, not because I dislike Karla, but because VD is very analytical and is a good player. Last game, Harry made a good point about a Godfather, which everyone ignored. However, Oath's nomination kind of scares me, but I guess everyone should be scared of electing two Mafia in the office. Like Karla has said, just because Mafia is elected doesn't mean they will do bad things. iLoveYou pertains to this, the only flaw is that she didn't keep her promises. Anyway, Karla and VD make a very good pair in the office! For you paranoid people out there: If the mayor does something wrong (not just one mistake you can move on from. I mean something huge, like all the lynches being Townies and Blue Roles), we can just lynch them and get it over with, like Pally stated. Nonetheless, electing a mayor is a big decision. We're screwed if the Mayor flips Mafia from a confirmed role check or if they're awful at Mayor.
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I really didn't want to start discrediting other candidates, but far too much emphasis is being put on VD catching Kayla's godfather slip.
This is his post in TBTM II
Let's be honest, Kayla's slip was really obvious. Absolute confidence that you will return town to an inspection, in a game with Millers, Framers and Godfather? That's ludicrous.

But what did VD proceed to do with this information? Nothing. He promptly dropped it and went on to tell Kayla he was a Medic (with some (cheating) role PM screenshot sharing and fakery on Kayla's side). Do you really want someone who has little conviction in what they believe in, and won't push their suspicions harder? That's not to say you have to stubbornly tunnelvision, but to catch Kayla on such a slip and then let it go so easily, you can't then go back at the end of the game and say "I CALLED IT ON THE FIRST DAY". That's no good. You can be the best scumhunter in the world, but if you can't convince other people, you're not going to get anywhere.
 
oath2order said:
LITERALLY EVERYBODY TOLD KAYLA OR SOMEONE KAYLA TRUSTED THAT THEY WERE BLUE.

To be honest, I'm glad that I got the ball rolling on someone else. Geez, it was just votes for KARLA KARLA KARLA and I mean, guys, we kind of needed someone else to vote for so we can have a sheriff and not just accidentally vote in a placeholder vote.
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At least get the ball rolling on someone who makes a decent case for themselves!
There's tons of other players in this game who should step up for the position.
 
Pallycake: Oh, they were teasing with each other. Thanks for clarifying. Anyway, I'm not voting for Karla because I think VillageDweller is really well-suited for the role. I'm not saying Karla would the most terrible mayor in all games of Mafia;I actually think she would make a good mayor. If I recall, Karla wanted to be a sheriff, so there's another reason why I'm voting for VD.
 
I do believe VillagerDweller would make a great candidate as much as any other I have to agree with Pally and VD and Kayla being friends so he through the accusation at her. It was a great accusation, but it's just a suspicious we all need to fear with the elected roles. It was just a prediction that he made and was hoping it'd come true like he stated in the observer's chat:
"IF DIS SHT COMES TRU I WILL FLIP A TABLE. I predicted Kayla was the Godfather on like flippin DAY ONE LOL
(but then i trusted her and NOW I'M DEAD. dis may all b coming together)"
Lots of people predicted Jubs as scum the second the game started due to instant votes, bandwagoning, he didn't even need to campaign since votes were already pouring in for him (WHY AREN'T WE ALL VOTING FOR JUSTIN THIS GAME? Are you all so scared of him since he was Mayor and scum last game? He won didn't he? If he was a town role, he'd win it for us wouldn't he?) Sure we obviously have learned from are mistakes, but can't you see why Karla is trying to hard to prove and defend himself to all of you? We're all paranoid. The Mafia is probably laughing at us all and manipulating us by allowing our doubts and paranoia get the best of us. Ever thought that the Mafia can be trying extremely hard to make damn sure that Karla doesn't get elected? Everyone knows where he stands. He's been an open book and has fought for his place since the very beginning, which many of the players here can't say for themselves.
 
If you guys are just going to vote for the next person who makes a useless claim then vote for me.
"I'm cooler than Karla!!! Pally 4 mayor!!!"
 
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