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I see so much scum posts everywhere here, so I'll definitely be making some posts tomorrow after school. Don't really have time tonight to finish any but I could use some more evidence so can you all just keep please discussing please?
 
#1: Jeremy
Let me bring up this post again from Dad:
Part of me thinks that Jeremy does that to establish as his playstyle in case he gets gifted with being mafia in a game. Then because it's his playstyle people will be like 'oh that's just Jer being Jer', and thus he can slip by as mafia and have an excuse for at least two days.

Now, with his new handy dandy spreadsheet (certainly unusual and new), I can already see people beginning to lay off him a tad bit and moving to other targets. I don't recall Jeremy putting so much effort into mafia. If it's not because Town is at mylo or something and in a desperate situation, I'd say its because things are looking bleak for his scum team. Like others have said before, the spreadsheet sure does help us out but does it harm his scum team? Probably not.

#2: Minties
I reckon she's scum as well. After reading past games and seeing some clever scum moves, I bet Minties and Jer are bashing each other out - not enough to lynch the other, but enough as a safety net in case the other flips. I also noticed another thing about Minties. If you look back at her posts, she starts with some casual sentence/excuse such as "Checking In", "Just got back from work", and she does the same thing in Sunleth mafia where she was godfather. I haven't had the time to check back at games where she was town if she does the same thing, though. Another thing that stuck out to me is how she started posting angrily AFTER she got called out as not being angry enough. Now, I don't know if this is a coincidence because she really was angry, or if she tried being angry just so she'd "stay in Town character". I say if Jeremy flips red, then Minties is probably red too.

Minor Suspicion: KarlaKGB/Sataric
I have a weird feeling about Karla. He's playing differently as he usually does but I can't seem to find the words for it. I guess the right term is cruising by? He definitely doesn't seem town to be but at the same time not scum. I would say a third party role, but there has been no extra kills and there's already the 3 thieves so it seems unlikely. I'm definitely going to keep an eye on him though. Also I find it extremely strange how Sataric has kept defending and supporting Karla. What's going on with you two? Both scum?

Minor Suspicion: Yui Z
Dolby's claim makes sense to me. If there was a mafia doc, then it's possible that Dolby was protected and able to claim veteran, although I think it's unlikely (unless there's any counter claimers).
Seems like to me that this post was mainly 1) for Yui to be "safe" if Dolby happened to flip scum, since "mafia would have believed his claim straight away and not question it", and 2) to poke out counter claims so her scum team won't waste a shot on that person. I think I might be reading into this too much though, but the wording really makes me feel uncomfortable.

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Alise: I really think that the way she's posting is in line with her character, but I can sorta see why you guys are scum reading her now. But I honestly don't think she is just by comparing her posting style.
 
Alise: I really think that the way she's posting is in line with her character, but I can sorta see why you guys are scum reading her now. But I honestly don't think she is just by comparing her posting style.

She doesn't post any differently as scum, that is if she posts at all.
 
#1: Jeremy
Let me bring up this post again from Dad:


Now, with his new handy dandy spreadsheet (certainly unusual and new), I can already see people beginning to lay off him a tad bit and moving to other targets. I don't recall Jeremy putting so much effort into mafia. If it's not because Town is at mylo or something and in a desperate situation, I'd say its because things are looking bleak for his scum team. Like others have said before, the spreadsheet sure does help us out but does it harm his scum team? Probably not.

#2: Minties
I reckon she's scum as well. After reading past games and seeing some clever scum moves, I bet Minties and Jer are bashing each other out - not enough to lynch the other, but enough as a safety net in case the other flips. I also noticed another thing about Minties. If you look back at her posts, she starts with some casual sentence/excuse such as "Checking In", "Just got back from work", and she does the same thing in Sunleth mafia where she was godfather. I haven't had the time to check back at games where she was town if she does the same thing, though. Another thing that stuck out to me is how she started posting angrily AFTER she got called out as not being angry enough. Now, I don't know if this is a coincidence because she really was angry, or if she tried being angry just so she'd "stay in Town character". I say if Jeremy flips red, then Minties is probably red too.

Minor Suspicion: KarlaKGB/Sataric
I have a weird feeling about Karla. He's playing differently as he usually does but I can't seem to find the words for it. I guess the right term is cruising by? He definitely doesn't seem town to be but at the same time not scum. I would say a third party role, but there has been no extra kills and there's already the 3 thieves so it seems unlikely. I'm definitely going to keep an eye on him though. Also I find it extremely strange how Sataric has kept defending and supporting Karla. What's going on with you two? Both scum?

Minor Suspicion: Yui Z

Seems like to me that this post was mainly 1) for Yui to be "safe" if Dolby happened to flip scum, since "mafia would have believed his claim straight away and not question it", and 2) to poke out counter claims so her scum team won't waste a shot on that person. I think I might be reading into this too much though, but the wording really makes me feel uncomfortable.

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Alise: I really think that the way she's posting is in line with her character, but I can sorta see why you guys are scum reading her now. But I honestly don't think she is just by comparing her posting style.

As I said in my list everyone you mentioned other than alise is probably scum. I can see right through you guys u silly bongos, you think I don't know you're scum but I see it. I have the gift. #REKT

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Also the reason Sataric brought up Arsonist role early is probably because he is scum and we're probably all going to die tomorrow or something.

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Also I bet there is 4th party of Sataric and Karla.
 
First off, I want to ask why a majority of the players have basically ignored my case on Ashtot. Besides Trundle, Minties and Tom (and Ashtot himself), I haven't seen a word uttered about it from anyone. And why is it that people seemingly believe his quartermaster claim? I'm surprised, since our claims (trundle, Cory and I) were met with such skepticism yet Ashtots claim has kind of been swept under the rug. Sorry, but his claim could just as easily be (if not more) a fakeclaim like all of you thought about our claims. But anyways, now to business.

It's hilarious that you think looking at a couple games really proves anything. I'm not scum. I'm reacted much worse that that to people and have said some really offensive things and not just in games when I'm scum. The fact that you're not willing to really look into my behaviour and take it into context of all my games is making me a bit suspicious. You seem like you're just grasping at nothing and trying everything in your power to get me lynched, when in reality there is no real reason for me to be lynched.

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Yes, I am acting differently, but my behaviour in all my no PM games has been quite similar. I suck at no PM games and it shows in how I post etc. because I can't shoot ideas off of people to come to conclusions and talk about cases etc.

I'm also extremely skeptical of Minties. I wouldn't think she would vote based on a silly case, and just like that, without much consideration. You've been giving everyone Town vibes but like I said, we should watch you, although nobody seems to agree. I find it odd that now you're voting for me.

Silly case? Only in your scummy eyes.

A couple games? Don't bull**** with me. I've told you I have looked through all the games you've been in, and compared how you played as scum to how you played as town. Anyone can do this. I have looked into your behavior. As town, you never threw a fit when accused and you never bandwagoned without reason. How many times do I have to say this? For gods sake that's my whole case is based upon - you're acting how you do as scum. Grasping at nothing? Ashtot. Please. Instead of telling my case is silly and wrong, actually go through games and show me you 1) bandwagoned like a madman and 2) threw a fit when accused as a townie.

Mmk, let's look identify the no PM games you've been in: Sunleth Waterscape, Battle in Purgatory, Attack of the Ostrich, Portal Mafia and Pleasure Cruise. You died early on in Attack of the Ostrich, so there isn't much there. But you know what's funny? The points I made in my case against you still stands. Why? Because in Sunleth mafia, where you were scum, you did the exact same thing you're doing this game and that you always do as scum: bandwagon on nearly every lynch candidate and rage when accused. I don't buy the excuse that you play similarly in every no PM game because you don't. Portal mafia? You didn't bandwagon nearly as much as you did in Sunleth and the current game. Attack of the Ostrich? No mindless bandwagoning. Pleasure Cruise? No bandwagoning, again. Battle in Purgatory was so short and you barely posted so it's not worth saying anything about that game.

Besides bandwagoning and your attitude, there's other strange things I've noticed. For example, it's funny how you really stepped up your game after my case on you, like all of a sudden you came out with walls of texts. Are you trying to look like you're contributing a lot so suspicion is thrown off you? And finally, there's something I find incredibly annoying... Ashtot keeps telling me how it's hilarious I find him scummy because of the way he's been playing, yet Ashtot is allowed to use how people were in previous games as a reason for finding them scummy? :rolleyes:

I honestly think that Karen is playing quite strangely. She is normally much more thoughtful and thorough in how she writes her posts, but they just seem a bit sloppy this game. I know it's her first game back but I don't see that as a real reason to disregard her being less active and posting the way she is. The Karen I knew punched scum in the face and was just a bit more aggressive in general. I feel like she is disinterested/not really trying and I think we really need to watch her.

You also claim you're trying really hard but you've tried less in past games and actually done much better, so I'm not really buying it.

( The second one is regarding Alise) so anyways, my case still stands. If you're really town, I'd be throughly shocked because you're acting the same ****ing way you do as scum - but I highly doubt you are town. I'd like to see other people's opinions, please.

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Hey look what Alise is doing instead of playing Nub Mafia and this one! Unofficials. >.>

She's going to be lynched in faction mafia soon. :lemon:
 
I think we should lynch Sataric, Minties, or Karen for the reasons that I've explained in several of my previous posts.
 
What do you think about Ashtot though?

I'm not getting a scummy vibe from either you or him at the moment. At least not compared to the three I mentioned. I'd have to go back and read his posts more carefully. But I brought Karen up again because her "suspicion" of me is not too great. Just because someone who died mentioned me and turned out to be a townie, doesn't say anything about my role. It looks desperate to me... #1 on your list and that's it? Plus, I'm still weirded out about her original vote for Dolby. Maybe she did that to distance herself from Dolby because it was out of place at the time and just seems fake.
 
There's a bunch of reasoning for you, Jeremy. If I had reiterated any of that to make my case "better" you would have come around and said oh Karen is just repeating what other players have said. So I'm just trying to add some of my opinion to the matter, and that added to existing evidence = my suspicion.

I already quoted why I voted for Dolby in the first place. I was mad that my post was being ignored (at the time) and I was pretty suspicious of Dolby. I was going to change my vote the next day but then the evidence came up so
I didn't need to change it.

Natty I will look at your case on Ashtot later it's getting late here.
 
Ok so, I am again going to vote for Alise for reasons I have stated previously. I believe I have given enough reason to vote for her on those grounds.

I am not scum, I will role claim now as I feel it is imperative I do in order to keep myself alive to aid town.

Natalie the coward (vanilla townie)
 
Aside from alise not posting much, what exactly are the suspicions of her?
 
Aside from alise not posting much, what exactly are the suspicions of her?

I have stated my reasons why, she is reluctant to defend herself, avoids any form of posts regarding her name unless she has to reply, she avoids questions and she wanted to be inspected this gives me an itch she could be god father.
 
I have stated my reasons why, she is reluctant to defend herself, avoids any form of posts regarding her name unless she has to reply, she avoids questions and she wanted to be inspected this gives me an itch she could be god father.

Asking to be inspected is weird. What post was that from?
 
Asking to be inspected is weird. What post was that from?

The post after oath died and flipped detective. She says it was a joke, if it is I'm pig sick of her jokes, but I doubt it, careless hints I'd say.
 
First off, I want to ask why a majority of the players have basically ignored my case on Ashtot?

Because I'm not scum so what's the point?

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Ok so, I am again going to vote for Alise for reasons I have stated previously. I believe I have given enough reason to vote for her on those grounds.

I am not scum, I will role claim now as I feel it is imperative I do in order to keep myself alive to aid town.

Natalie the coward (vanilla townie)

I think Lauren might be Town because I think if she was scum and had a safe claim she would have used caps in the right places.
 
The post after oath died and flipped detective. She says it was a joke, if it is I'm pig sick of her jokes, but I doubt it, careless hints I'd say.

I think I forgot about that, but that is very scummy and I highly doubt it was a joke. How is that a joke? It's not funny. #vote alise.
 
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