bell tree inflation [please close]

the discussion has run its course. any further replies are just summaries of previous replies. i want this thread closed. y'all are rude af and we've already talked about everything there is to talk about.






when i first started on the belltree back in january, the price of tbt was way lower than it is now.
the rates for tbt to igb were 100 tbt per 8 mil igb.

i came back to tbt expecting to find the rates the same. they were not. the price had somehow gone over to 10-15 million igb per 100 tbt, at the most.
two days ago i began to sell igb for tbt, upping my rate to 16 million igb per 100 tbt, partly to beat out every other competitor and partly because, like i said in my post on the shop, i wanted to see if i could change the economy.

sure enough, almost immediately after i began to sell igb at that rate, people began popping up with lower rates. shoutout to you kirbs, with that 17mil, you solidified the range of 15mil to 20 mil!

last night, i saw a post someone had put up saying they would trade 10mil igb for 100 tbt, only be to be quickly told that the current going price of tbt was 15mil-20mil igb.


so here's what i figure - if one kid can shift the belltree economy, why not shift it back to the good old days when tbt wasnt a major treasure?

collectibles are so cheap in the shop, but theyre sold out. since tbt is becoming more valuable, so are collectibles. collectibles that go for a couple hundred bells in the shop are being sold in the market for over 1000 bells.

everyone can make bells, but its not that easy.

why dont we downgrade the price of tbt? bring it back to 8mil.

someone said they were selling dlc's for 400 tbt a year ago, now we all sell them for 15-50 tbt.


i dont know what'll happen if the price increases, but i dont know if its going to be easy for some people to affors ANYTHING when it does.

thoughts?

Because hackers and cheaters have filled tbt and provide items cheap for ingame bells because they can hack their savings
As a result of this, everyone is a billionaire and so no body interested in ingame funds

v a n i l l a said:

when i first started on the belltree back in january, the price of tbt was way lower than it is now.
the rates for tbt to igb were 100 tbt per 8 mil igb.

i came back to tbt expecting to find the rates the same. they were not. the price had somehow gone over to 10-15 million igb per 100 tbt, at the most.
two days ago i began to sell igb for tbt, upping my rate to 16 million igb per 100 tbt, partly to beat out every other competitor and partly because, like i said in my post on the shop, i wanted to see if i could change the economy.

sure enough, almost immediately after i began to sell igb at that rate, people began popping up with lower rates. shoutout to you kirbs, with that 17mil, you solidified the range of 15mil to 20 mil!

last night, i saw a post someone had put up saying they would trade 10mil igb for 100 tbt, only be to be quickly told that the current going price of tbt was 15mil-20mil igb.


so here's what i figure - if one kid can shift the belltree economy, why not shift it back to the good old days when tbt wasnt a major treasure?

collectibles are so cheap in the shop, but theyre sold out. since tbt is becoming more valuable, so are collectibles. collectibles that go for a couple hundred bells in the shop are being sold in the market for over 1000 bells.

everyone can make bells, but its not that easy.

why dont we downgrade the price of tbt? bring it back to 8mil.

someone said they were selling dlc's for 400 tbt a year ago, now we all sell them for 15-50 tbt.


i dont know what'll happen if the price increases, but i dont know if its going to be easy for some people to affors ANYTHING when it does.

thoughts?

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I don't have much to add to this discussion, but I remember 2 years ago the exchange rate was 100k IGB for 100 TBT bells. I haven't been paying attention to prices because I don't trade in the marketplace, but those prices are bordering on downright ridiculous. ;-;

I remember the first time I traded BTB for in game bells it was around 2m to 100 BTB. When it kept going up I tried (as did other members)a few times to keep it around 3-4M to 100 BTB last fall. But, greed takes over and wins out....unless the staff steps in and sets restrictions, greed will keep winning, and staff has said they will not put restrictions on it. I was away from the boards for almost 5 months and was surprised when I came back how high it had gone.

Natty said:

I don't have much to add to this discussion, but I remember 2 years ago the exchange rate was 100k IGB for 100 TBT bells. I haven't been paying attention to prices because I don't trade in the marketplace, but those prices are bordering on downright ridiculous. ;-;

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thats. thats like a dream. i wish i knew what i felt like.

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matt said:

Because hackers and cheaters have filled tbt and provide items cheap for ingame bells because they can hack their savings
As a result of this, everyone is a billionaire and so no body interested in ingame funds

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argh... but i feel like if u hack, u might as well give ur money away for free? why charge tbt for it? you can just get more immediately.

sorry if this sounds rude, but didn't you add to the inflation? if you saw that rates were 10-15 mil. why did you inflate to 16 mil? that's how these conversion rates get so out of control because people keep trying to beat everyone out, it's obvious that when someone is offering 20 mil for 100 TBT, it's powersaved money

p e p p e r said:

sorry if this sounds rude, but didn't you add to the inflation? if you saw that rates were 10-15 mil. why did you inflate to 16 mil? that's how these conversion rates get so out of control because people keep trying to beat everyone out, it's obvious that when someone is offering 20 mil for 100 TBT, it's powersaved money

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not everyone that offers that much powersaves, just saying
the only thing i would be guilty of is keeping one of my towns in a time loop of a really good turnip price to myself

but yeah it's hard trying to compete with everyone
i'm actually gonna close up shop soon

There's nothing that can be down about the inflation. As time goes on in the Animal Crossing New Leaf game, the currency in said game is worth less and less. Today is the result of a game that is two years old. Economies don't work like you think they do.

Maybe the economy for BTB will get so high, no one will buy IGB, due to the insanely high prices. After that, the price will just sink.

BluePikachu47 said:

Maybe the economy for BTB will get so high, no one will buy IGB, due to the insanely high prices. After that, the price will just sink.

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I believe the ratio will remain at a high static ratio (such as 100TBT for 25~30million). The problem with the economy on the site is that lot's of people have absolutely no need for in-game bells now. It has been two years since the game first came out and everyone has all the public works projects, house upgrades, and items they ever wanted. There is no need for in-game currency.

the bell tree economy is full of flaws, what do you expect lol

roroselle said:

not everyone that offers that much powersaves, just saying
the only thing i would be guilty of is keeping one of my towns in a time loop of a really good turnip price to myself

but yeah it's hard trying to compete with everyone
i'm actually gonna close up shop soon

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sorry, I shouldn't have generalized. I have a lot in my bank account as well but it was from trading items & turnips in 2013 when the game first came out.

p e p p e r said:

sorry, I shouldn't have generalized. I have a lot in my bank account as well but it was from trading items & turnips in 2013 when the game first came out.

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yeah same
it's alright, it is the majority though from what i see

after seeing shops sell 17mil + per 100 tbt, i was like NOPE can't compete byeee
since i was selling 15 mil per 100 tbt, no customers returned only to find better rates offered somewhere else ; _ ;
i remember wasting all my tbt for 100 tbt per 8 mil, MY GOD

yeah the economy will shrink once acnl won't be popular as much anymore

oreo said:

after seeing shops sell 17mil + per 100 tbt, i was like NOPE can't compete byeee
since i was selling 15 mil per 100 tbt, no customers returned only to find better rates offered somewhere else ; _ ;
i remember wasting all my tbt for 100 tbt per 8 mil, MY GOD

yeah the economy will shrink once acnl won't be popular as much anymore

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I remember getting a deal from this girl last year at 3mil per 100tbt. Man has the price increased.

The problem is definitely how everyone has millions of in game bells. TBT is harder to come by nowadays and a lot of shops (art, garden supplies) only accept tbt. So if you want to buy a lot of gardening materials for your town, you'd need tons of tbt. Therefore leads up desperation which then leads to higher prices.

Shimmer said:

I remember getting a deal from this girl last year at 3mil per 100tbt. Man has the price increased.

The problem is definitely how everyone has millions of in game bells. TBT is harder to come by nowadays and a lot of shops (art, garden supplies) only accept tbt. So if you want to buy a lot of gardening materials for your town, you'd need tons of tbt. Therefore leads up desperation which then leads to higher prices.

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3 mil per 100 tbt from last year?! geeze
ikr prices increased because of competition from igb sellers >_<
yeah i own a garden shop and had to lower my prices because apparently selling clovers per 6 tbt was too much ; A ;
DAMN, i'm just trying to collect tbt for art like everyone else, aha

roroselle said:

not everyone that offers that much powersaves, just saying
the only thing i would be guilty of is keeping one of my towns in a time loop of a really good turnip price to myself

but yeah it's hard trying to compete with everyone
i'm actually gonna close up shop soon

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yeah, ive already basically closed my shop. i cant keep up with the 20m rates. i was looking for a quick way to get tbt, and i did only to realize shortly afterwards that it probably wasn't such a good idea.

anyway, now i sell items and hybrids and exchange bells with a limited number of people who message me personally.

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Shimmer said:

I remember getting a deal from this girl last year at 3mil per 100tbt. Man has the price increased.

The problem is definitely how everyone has millions of in game bells. TBT is harder to come by nowadays and a lot of shops (art, garden supplies) only accept tbt. So if you want to buy a lot of gardening materials for your town, you'd need tons of tbt. Therefore leads up desperation which then leads to higher prices.

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^^^^^^^ THIS is literally the best explanation so far. i think ur absolutely correct, i just feel like the demand for tbt is too much.
now that the game isn't so new anymore, everyone's kind of completed their towns or gotten close to completion, so a lot of us have tons and tons of leftover stuff. we don't need igb because beetle hunting for hours and hours beforehand got us rich, but everyone's on the same page about that so theres tons of competition.

What the hell. If you dont like it then leave

Idfldnsndt said:

What the hell. If you dont like it then leave

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What the hell. If you dont like [the thread] then leave

Well it's hardly going to change.