Mafia DA:I Mafia

Arstotzkan · Nov 11, 2015

TheAhPoCawdOh said:
Alright well I originally was beginning to have sus'about Daniel at the start when he was defensive about every post, so when he started talking about dad being scum, I thought he was looking for ways to get out of the situation. Not to mention, dad even said something asking the lines of "lol we all know your just looking for someone to agree with you now." So, I decided to fake a suspicion about dad to see if he reacted, he didn't, and he passed. so I tossed it aside and made up an excuse for saying I had dad suspicions. Then I get questioned, and I tell the truth. Than, Daniel replys defensively, saying that "that test was likely a coverup for my newness.", implying he's calling me scum here, I defend. Let me get the post and I'll put it here for proof.

I think newness was more of him brushing you off and being like, "lol yeah no you're new you don't know what you're talking about", but considering the thought that went behind this, I'm impressed. Gonna go look back at Daniel's initial post for context.

I know this sounds kinda nitpicky of me, but can you paragraph your stuff? I had a hard time trying to understand what you were saying there.

N e s s · Nov 11, 2015

Runeraider said:
I don't really need to answer this anymore, but I thought it was completely unfounded and AhPo just confirmed it.

I did what now?

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@kat Oh well,
My phone is pretty crummy, so I'm doing my best here

Noted tho.

LaBelleFleur · Nov 11, 2015

Runeraider said:
I don't really need to answer this anymore, but I thought it was completely unfounded and AhPo just confirmed it.

Hi. Who do you think is scummy? Since you didn't answer that.

Arstotzkan · Nov 11, 2015

@Ah I think he was referencing that the Dad suspicion was unwarranted.

Yeah huh... so Daniel kind of dismissed someone's sudden change in voting behavior as them being a noob without looking into it at all, which implies that it would have been a noob move (mistake) to vote for Dad in the first place. And yet he's consciously there voting Dad... I don't like that. I don't like that at all.

Pusheen The Cat · Nov 11, 2015

Hi ^-^. Basically right now i really don't know who to suspect as im not bothered to really read all the comments. But i probably will reply later as im going to be studying. I will also be reading the thread to keep up on what is happening

Arstotzkan · Nov 11, 2015

Pusheen The Cat said:
Hi ^-^. Basically right now i really don't know who to suspect as im not bothered to really read all the comments. But i probably will reply later as im going to be studying. I will also be reading the thread to keep up on what is happening

How can you keep up if you don't know what's gone on before this point?

Geoni · Nov 11, 2015

Daniel hasn't voted for me yet, Sarasa. Only Tom has. He has of course given suspicion. Never put it into action though.

Arstotzkan · Nov 12, 2015

Dad said:
Daniel hasn't voted for me yet, Sarasa. Only Tom has. He has of course given suspicion. Never put it into action though.

Oh rip. Still though

Pusheen The Cat · Nov 12, 2015

SarasaKat said:
How can you keep up if you don't know what's gone on before this point?

Well i read some comments and pretty much right now all i know Daniel is being suspected and that Daniel and i think AhPo suspect Dad

N e s s · Nov 12, 2015

I've already confirmed that I don't suspect dad.

EnderWiggin · Nov 12, 2015

Call me Daniel said:
That's fine ender, I've been going through a rough patch too. But can you say why your choosing to lynch Trojan?

Trojan said:
Because I still don't understand why ender is hammering me like this when i haven't posted anything scummy :/

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I was just trying to be friendly to everyone

Panda1376 said:
Ender why are you voting for Trojan right now ? i read back all his post and nothing seems scummy to me.

I've said it already?

EnderWiggin said:
Pre-empts day-start, is wishy washy while trying to get others to talk.

Lack of commitment.

Mafia often have the need to say things. So they'll often talk very shortly after the day starts if they're around. Not a reliable read but it's a good way to start discussion going.

And the rest of the posts I hope I don't have to spell out why they're meh.

Whether or not my reasons are good? You can debate that.

... But please at least check to see if I've answered the question yet or not.

Also these:

SarasaKat said:
Alright, just got back on my computer. I'll look through Panda's posts after this:

@Trojan I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm suspicious of you for:
1) You were kinda hypocritical when you just blatantly asked for suspicions, without offering any of your own
2) The Dad vote. You still haven't clarified why scumhunting is suspicious, and I think you ought to explain that before saying that your vote is justified.
3) *NEW* You're piggybacking off of Daniel like hell. Unless you have a damn good reason why Pusheen and Rune are town, then both your biggest suspicion and your two biggest town reads mirror his. You were the one who replied second both times, and since you both sharing suspicions seems so unlikely, that makes me think you're trying to blend in.

I think you ought to give your own reads. Who's suspicious, who isn't. And no piggybacking - I want to hear your actual opinion without you clutching onto Daniel like a lifeline.

SarasaKat said:
Oh, also forgot another thing: Trojan said that he doesn't think anything Daniel has done has been suspicious, yet he hasn't really said anything against the people who're casting suspicion on Daniel. More minor compared to point three, but still rubs me the wrong way.

These are good.

Dad said:
Tom didn't mention Rule #27 of tbt mafia: never flatter Dad and his silver tongue.

Silver Tongue?

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LaBelleFleur said:
My brain is basically pudding right now (when is it not, really), so let's dive in head-first.

Stand out scum-read right now: Call me Daniel. What are you doing? Dad pushed you, as Dad does to all of the newbies, and you crumbled. It feels like when you try to post something useful, it has a 'but I'm not sure, it's D1, etc.' clause attached to it, as if you're trying to cover all of your bases. Then, you jumped onto Tom's ludicrous suspicions? What? Then, backpedal. As far as I can tell, despite multiple people asking you, you still haven't given a proper scum read on anyone at this point. It's just a lot of smoke, mirrors, and small talk.

I really want to hear more from...

Capella: Came in, said hi, didn't answer Dad's question on who they thought were scum, left.

Pusheen the Cat: Said nothing but:

Runeraider: The whole messing with Trojan thing is fine. But I am curious about what you think of Dad, since you said this......and other than that, have said hardly anything at all, least of all who you think is scummy. Feels off to me.

Slammint & Ashtot for obvious reasons.

Need to analyze everyone that's posted more later when my brain is less jelly-like.

No comment on Trojan?

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TBH I can't fault the Daniel suspicion

But at the same time, there is a lot of pressure on it? Idk, I no logical reason to dismiss it, tbh.

Ashtot · Nov 12, 2015

I'm so confused why am I scummy?

Also hi and omg oath is in this game <3

btw we should lynch tom

Geoni · Nov 12, 2015

Yeah something's off about you Ender. You continue to keep shrugging about Daniel and staying on Trojan. But instead of continuing to develop more reads out of Trojan and interaction with him you just quote Sarasa and you're like 'yeah this'?

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Ashtot you're not scummy you're just forgotten about.

Ashtot · Nov 12, 2015

Dad said:
Yeah something's off about you Ender. You continue to keep shrugging about Daniel and staying on Trojan. But instead of continuing to develop more reads out of Trojan and interaction with him you just quote Sarasa and you're like 'yeah this'?

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Ashtot you're not scummy you're just forgotten about.

labellefloor said i was scummy for obvious reasons

but i dont even know the reason so it cant be that obvious amirite?

Geoni · Nov 12, 2015

But yeah it's pretty clear that you're tunneling at the moment Ender.

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Ashtot said:
labellefloor said i was scummy for obvious reasons

but i dont even know the reason so it cant be that obvious amirite?

She said she wanted to hear from you and then disappeared to not post developed reads until Day 2 probably.

Ashtot · Nov 12, 2015

Dad said:
But yeah it's pretty clear that you're tunneling at the moment Ender.

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She said she wanted to hear from you and then disappeared to not post developed reads until Day 2 probably.

she seems pretty scummy to me tbh

anyways i think we should lynch tom, he's filled with scumbaggery

EnderWiggin · Nov 12, 2015

Dad said:
But yeah it's pretty clear that you're tunneling at the moment Ender.

Unashamedly

Dad said:
Yeah something's off about you Ender. You continue to keep shrugging about Daniel and staying on Trojan. But instead of continuing to develop more reads out of Trojan and interaction with him you just quote Sarasa and you're like 'yeah this'?

Sarasa said all the new things well, no need to repeat her.

Also, I think I already proved last game that my scumgame isn't different from my towngame in approach normally? I mean, if anything, me being really weird should be a towntell.

Trent the Paladin · Nov 12, 2015

Dad said:
Like I said before, the only way people can crusade against me right now is to disenfranchise my scumhunting by bringing up the possibility that I'm just using it to try and get townread. And here you go doing it. And that's 3 people taking that stance already even though making a decision to lynch me would require more revelations and interpersonal alignments in the thread becoming more apparent. Doubting me is alright, but when doubting me is all you're doing while ignoring a lot of the other things that are going on in the game, then it's weak stance taking.

I mean to be honest iirc you have a pretty bad time as mafia and making plays to sacrifice team mates who come under the slightest bit of suspicion. Poor planning and communication with the rest of the team tends to lead to Mafia's downfall under Dad's supervision. The only other reason it fails is because scum team is way to obvious.

oath2order said:
On another note, Tom and Dad are both fairly experienced mafia players. It would honestly not surprise me if the two of them were mafia goons or a useless mafia role like a framer and were bussing each other (bussing is a term that means two members of mafia pushing each other for lynch, in the hopes that when one does get lynched, the other appears more like town)

Me and Dad bussing each other would be a fairly stupid move, I think many experienced players would see this coming a mile away. Bussing is no good when it comes to experienced players, better to bus newbies and bad players than experienced.

SarasaKat said:
Is this directed at me or...? I ron't really get it.

A) What would be your counterarguement to them being off topic leads to them not wanting to put their opinion out there and because they hesitate to put down their thoughts pertaining to the game, they're scummy?
B) Tom's been playing around quite a bit. Why Pusheen and Rune, when Tom fits that criteria better?

Excuse my grammar: I'm just bone tired over here.

Clearly I'm humerus enough to keep around! But I'll get better, I promise. <3

oath2order said:
Tom disappeared but iirc he usually does this day one anyways.

He's also very quiet as scum but then again, it's been a while so idk

OH ASHTOT that's who hasn't shown up

I also have to go to class and actually do work unlike Fallout playing Team Members. Learning and getting paid > mafia

Dad said:
Also @ Oath, you've missed a lot of meta. Tom has degraded in recent games. Because woe is Tom. Also I'm not going to play sloppy mafia like that next time I'm mafia, I still need to redeem myself from KtbC

Also I can't wait until Oath plays a game with Endless. That'll be a salt mine.

That's my secret Dad, I'm always scum. *Hulks Out*

Also no redemption, you will suffer.

Dad said:
Not sure you understand the context of Tom's little day 1 campaign against me. But to explain it, in the last game justice hosted Tom was mafia and did this to me day one, and it turned out that he was actually mafia attempting to use it to gain my trust and make me think he was town for reaction testing with me. He also used it as a way to not be on the Dolby lynch and seem not guilty for lynching town. Can't remember if he's done this to me in another game since but it's a reoccuring thing with him.

He's more or less trolling these days. Experience doesn't always mean improvement. I mean, consider how many games Capella has played here.

I mean to be fair, I really though Dolby was a lazy lynch on town's part. Literally none of you wanted to keep him around to target scum, you just wanted the bus driver dead. He's such a smart player.

Dad said:
Tom didn't mention Rule #27 of tbt mafia: never flatter Dad and his silver tongue.

Rule #10: Don't mention Rule #27.

Runeraider said:
I'm not sure that Daniel is experienced enough to know how to bus effectively tbh.

Plus Tom hasn't responded to this 'bus' so it kinda sucks.

BUS IS DUMB> TRAIN GO BOOM.

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Ashtot said:
I'm so confused why am I scummy?

Also hi and omg oath is in this game <3

btw we should lynch tom

Shut up scum

Geoni · Nov 12, 2015

EnderWiggin said:
Also, I think I already proved last game that my scumgame isn't different from my towngame in approach normally? I mean, if anything, me being really weird should be a towntell.

Telling me how to take your meta?

Geoni · Nov 12, 2015

EnderWiggin said:
Also, I think I already proved last game that my scumgame isn't different from my towngame in approach normally? I mean, if anything, me being really weird should be a towntell.

Telling me how to take your meta?

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Double post errors are annoying as Tom.

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