Mafia TBT Mafia: Game of Thrones - A Crown for a King - GAME OVER

Remember when I said not to make Sataric king until I popped in again? God freaking damn it you failed that one kingmaker. No reason to pursue that path while Sataric is king because unlike Kit I'm here to do things actually beneficial to the day.

I was excited to read the 20 pages that'd been generated in my absence, but half of it is Trojan and ness ****posting. Trojan has 125 posts, Ness has 192. Ness you're more than doubling most of the players content here. I've posted 29 times and Sataric has posted 28 times. Ness, you have posted nearly 7 times as many posts as Sataric and he's got about 7 times as much content as you do. What you're currently doing is heavily bogging down the thread and barely achieving anything, content-wise. Ness, Trojan, Condense your posts.

Ness's role claim should be mutually exclusive to your read on him, mafia were almost definitely given fake claims to claim. (I wouldn't be surprised if they were given a stark fake claim either.)

Right now I haven't really got a focused red reads list but Trojan's posting is a little off and terminating him would make the game so much easier to read. (This is reasonably bad logic though so there's a 95% chance I'll have a better read by the time it hits crunch point.)

Sorry for the late post, but I woke up a long time after the sun rose and have had some things to take care of. (I'm about to start cooking dinner and then I'm scheduled to watch something with a friend, so I won't post again for a while.)

Trojan said:

Same reason that Tom said, the John Snow thing really confused me and as a watcher of the show I assumed that John Snow had to be one of the blue roles. I still wanted Kit lynched for randomly starting to call "TRUNDLE AND TROJAN ARE MAFIA" and distracting the town with useless nonsense.

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ur just as distracting with ur sheer amount of low quality posts, shud we lynch u too??

tom: i dont quite follow why ur to blame for kit's death, care to elaborate? u think u blueread her and the mafia noticed?

KarlaKGB said:

ur just as distracting with ur sheer amount of low quality posts, shud we lynch u too??

tom: i dont quite follow why ur to blame for kit's death, care to elaborate? u think u blueread her and the mafia noticed?

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Tom said:

Quiet Chrom.

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Essentially yes. I think a majority of us are familiar with TBT Mafia Wiki and even more are familiar with my kingmaker mafia thanks to Oath.

i think on night 2, all the vigs should fire their shots. there are plenty of ****posters and lurkers to kill. the ultimate objective however, is to clear up trundle's roleclaim. in a game this size, it is highly highly unlikely for there to be more than 2 vigs. after firing, the vigs can safely claim and then we'll see just how many vigclaims we have

i still find it hard to believe that mafia successfully blueread kit, even with the chrom namedrop. even if they believed she was a hero, i dont think it was a priority to eliminate her. there was little appetite at the time to lynch kit (with the exception of trojan but hes ********) and there are plenty of alternative easy lynches that a scum king could go for, even against the will of the people

I don't think there's any way that Trundle's mafia with a claim like that, honestly. The shot on me was the second worst shot fired off last night phase, (With Kit and Ender being the better shots), and if he had intention to fake claim then claiming to be the vig that shot me makes no sense. It'd make MUCH more sense that, if he had intention to claim Vig as non-town, that he'd shoot someone who met the following three criteria: competent, mafia read and not on his alignment. Tom for example would be an excellent and justifiable shot for him if that was his game plan. There's no way he goes after me as say mafia then claims that since that's just way less credible. (Even Kit would be a better claimed shot.)
Hence, since he has no motivation to claim like that, he did in fact shoot me and he is in fact town. Would really appreciate if everyone started focusing on potential mafia rather than Trundle.

And I'm also inclined to townread Tom as well. Let's make the assumption that Trundle is town and he shot me. With that assumption, and assuming the logical position of mafia having two KP, we can conclude that Kit/Ashtot were the two mafia kills. Hence mafia killed Kit.
I really believe that Tom believed that Kit was hero. If Tom was under this assumption and killed Kit then he'd die.
Since that's not something anyone would do, it makes sense if Tom's not mafia here. (Nothing barring him from being third party.)

That being said my Tom read is definitely up for discussion whereas I'm going to be particularly obstinate in stating there's no way Trundle is mafia.

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EBWOP: I'm going to be drunk off vodka very soon so there's a reasonable chance that I might post a few posts after this that might not make as much sense as I intend them to.

Endless said:

And I'm also inclined to townread Tom as well. Let's make the assumption that Trundle is town and he shot me. With that assumption, and assuming the logical position of mafia having two KP, we can conclude that Kit/Ashtot were the two mafia kills. Hence mafia killed Kit.
I really believe that Tom believed that Kit was hero. If Tom was under this assumption and killed Kit then he'd die.
Since that's not something anyone would do, it makes sense if Tom's not mafia here. (Nothing barring him from being third party.)

That being said my Tom read is definitely up for discussion whereas I'm going to be particularly obstinate in stating there's no way Trundle is mafia.

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i think u misunderstand how hero works. if the hero gets lynched, the king that lynched them is also killed. it doesnt affect mafia or vig kills

KarlaKGB said:

i think u misunderstand how hero works. if the hero gets lynched, the king that lynched them is also killed. it doesnt affect mafia or vig kills

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In that case I retract my read on Tom entirely. I skimmed over the description and assumed they were a bomb-style role that was locked onto targeting the current king.

Tom said:

I think a lot of us are also glossing over the fact that the third party may not even be a killer type role to begin with, but a coward/survivor/lover or maybe even a cult? But if you feel Minties is sticking closely to the lore then I doubt a cult type role would be in play.

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also want to respond to this: the primary thing leading me to think there is a third party killer role is ender's death. who shot him??? if trundles claim is believable, then it's solid evidence that vigs only have one shot. in which case why hasnt the vig who shot him claimed? (1. they have more than one shot, or 2. they're dumb)

the only other feasible explanation is that it's the work of a serial killer. i explained before how despite not being aligned to either side, it's in the serial killer's interests to see mafia killed. mafia is his biggest threat because he's most at risk of dying to them. a serial killer can easily blend in with town because he has no team agenda to stick to and can easily appear town by being anti-mafia (because he IS anti-mafia!)

@ Tom - Yes, I was talking about that type of Veteran role. You may call it Granny if you wish. Neither of the role names are particularly good if you ask me. But the point is, you visit such a role at night, you end up dead.

Tom said:

Point fingers anyways, we need everyone to respond and contribute! Sataric provided names of those he views as possible mafia, surely you could find something there?

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Just because I provided some names that doesn't mean that you cannot point fingers at anybody else. In fact, part of why I provided some names is to see if anyone would just mindlessly bandwagon on those suggestions instead of coming up with ideas of their own. Proceed with caution but do not think that your silence will save you!

@ Endless - Maybe the kingmaker simply trusts me more than he trust you? Though I am very curious about what you have got to say about me, actually. I agree with you in your campaign to reduce the clutter from the thread to make things far easier to read through. I also feel that this would motivate other players to contribute more, not getting their energy sucked out of them reading through a ton of emotionally overloaded garbage occasionally blessed with a constructive and well-written post.

KarlaKGB said:

i think on night 2, all the vigs should fire their shots. there are plenty of ****posters and lurkers to kill. the ultimate objective however, is to clear up trundle's roleclaim. in a game this size, it is highly highly unlikely for there to be more than 2 vigs. after firing, the vigs can safely claim and then we'll see just how many vigclaims we have

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I agree with this to some extent, unless you have some kind of Jack of All Trades role and feel that saving your shot in favour of using one of your other powers would be more beneficial. A saved life on a town-read person is more valuable than killing a low-contributing poster. Do consider that if we have a Mafia Vet team of some kind, you might simply be playing into their hands by removing the not-so-great players that may still hold powerful roles and contribute with nightly actions. I'd personally much rather you aim that shot at a non-****poster and non-lurker that you feel is very scummy instead, if you have made such a read on anyone.

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also want to respond to this: the primary thing leading me to think there is a third party killer role is ender's death. who shot him??? if trundles claim is believable, then it's solid evidence that vigs only have one shot. in which case why hasnt the vig who shot him claimed? (1. they have more than one shot, or 2. they're dumb)

the only other feasible explanation is that it's the work of a serial killer. i explained before how despite not being aligned to either side, it's in the serial killer's interests to see mafia killed. mafia is his biggest threat because he's most at risk of dying to them. a serial killer can easily blend in with town because he has no team agenda to stick to and can easily appear town by being anti-mafia (because he IS anti-mafia!)

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I very much believe that there is a third-party killing role out there. If the Mafia team has 2 KP, and the total game holds 23 people, they'd have to slip by for a very long time if there was only 2 people dying per night. I believe that for balancing reasons if nothing else, a third-party killing role would likely be added. It also fits the lore of Game of Thrones very well, because pretty much everyone only fights for themselves or their own family at the end of the day. We could even be looking at a third-party TEAM of some kind - Not impossible - Since Game of Thrones revolves around houses and families that are, for the most part, allied with one another. It's possible, for example, that Trundle IS Loras Tyrell but that the Tyrells are third party and that he has the other Tyrells on his team as non-killing roles.

Skipped class due to no sleep and horrific night, so if anything I say comes off as aggressive or otherwise emotionally-charged then I'm sorry but I'm frustrated and furious as all **** right now. And if rage isn't an amazing motivator for speaking my mind then I don't know what else is. I'm going to have to post my thoughts in stages as I just don't have the patience or motivation to sit and do this is a solid sitting right now. I aim to get through everyone and order is just as they come to mind.

Meg-Mog
I've know her twenty years. I live with her. Somehow I still can't get a read on her. She's quiet and when she does post they lack substantial content. I know how insanely busy she is in real life though, and I'm probably the world's biggest burden of a flatmate right now due to my health problems being utterly debilitating most days right now, so I can't say "oh she's simply avoiding the thread". I know prior to joining this game she has experience with Town of Salem which is similar IIRC, but idk how experienced.

Ayaya
I don't interpret Ender hammering into her day one as clearing her, or making her "confirmed town" as she claimed in post #1245, at all. If third party is in this game, and I'm assuming it must be if Minties' has it is right there in the opening post saying 'Third Party ??/??' - then just because Ender attacked her doesn't make her town. She could be third party. I don't know if she's played before, but she might have even taken out Ender as a threat. Conversely, she could still be scum and Ender was merely attacking her as a fallback for later in the game if one of them died. Now I'm not saying I think this, honestly I actually have an idea of what her role might be and if I am it's neither of what I said above, but I feel closing off our minds to other options and thinking of her as "confirmed town" is simply na?ve. Or maybe I'm just an over-paranoid *****.

Endless / Trundle
A natural continuation from the above, because once again I feel like people are dropping their guard. Endless claimed a shot, and Trundle claimed vig and said he shot him, and suddenly this must be fact? They could be a mafia team in cahoots lying about an additional shot that never happened to throw off town (if we assume 2KP mafia / 1KP third party - but if Endless was shot, I think we should consider the possibility of a fourth KP coming from somewhere rather than just assuming it must be a town-aligned shot). Trundle could have shot him as mafia/SK and jumped up to try and certify himself - hence his IMO flimsy justification of his shot on Endless. Unlike with Ayaya, I am actually considering these possibilities rather than stating them as a sort of "don't believe everything you read!" wake-up call. On the other hand, we could also entertain the possibility of Trundle being scum and shooting a third party Endless (maybe even one with a second life, which is not at all uncommon in TBT mafia for say an SK to have a vest as well. In this you might think, "why not fake claim then vet then?" - well, if there is really one in the game (I believe Karla claimed or did I misinterpret the abbreviation 'VT'?) then he'd give himself up to the real vet instantly) - then Endless, being scum himself, is assuming Trundle is town because being a killing role himself his guard may have dropped to the possibility. Or maybe Trundle is genuinely a vigilante and shot a third party!? But there is still the issue that Trundle isn't a Stark and given that Ash & Kit both flipped blue and are both Starks I'm struggling to believe the claim. Also, provided Endless is third party, it is no stretch to think he could be the one to shoot Ender - knowing him well and others in the thread (myself included) voicing concerns about Ender. It is perfectly justifiable and would take out someone that is a threat to his survival.

God my head is spinning. Basically I think something is up with Endless and Trundle, but I'm not sure which one or both and the possibilities are endless (heh). But I don't believe that they can both be town.

Karla
He's posting very differently from when I used to play with him, but I'm not exactly one to talk right now. It doesn't scream "scum!" to me, it's just different and it feels weird. Usually I can detect something strange about him early on and there just isn't anything there. If he's finally managed to blind me this time I'll be impressed.

Sataric
Strongest town-read by far. And thanks for being sensitive enough with voicing your concerns on me without it sounding like an attack.

Ness
Town. Certain of it.

Dolby
He was online during N1 but never checked in with us and that is concerning. I wouldn't say I think he's lying about his IRL situation, but it does make me think that he has an action and it could be scum-aligned. And if he's a blue role and I've just outed him then ****. But the silence bothers me in that he didn't post at all. If he's making the effort to log in at the library then you think he'd be making an effort to check in. Actually, even if he were blue, you'd think he'd make an effort to ensure he's not lynched for inactivity.


I said I'd do this in phases, and I think I need a break. So I'll continue later. That was strangely therapeutic.

Endless said:

Remember when I said not to make Sataric king until I popped in again? God freaking damn it you failed that one kingmaker. No reason to pursue that path while Sataric is king because unlike Kit I'm here to do things actually beneficial to the day.

I was excited to read the 20 pages that'd been generated in my absence, but half of it is Trojan and ness ****posting. Trojan has 125 posts, Ness has 192. Ness you're more than doubling most of the players content here. I've posted 29 times and Sataric has posted 28 times. Ness, you have posted nearly 7 times as many posts as Sataric and he's got about 7 times as much content as you do. What you're currently doing is heavily bogging down the thread and barely achieving anything, content-wise. Ness, Trojan, Condense your posts.

Ness's role claim should be mutually exclusive to your read on him, mafia were almost definitely given fake claims to claim. (I wouldn't be surprised if they were given a stark fake claim either.)

Right now I haven't really got a focused red reads list but Trojan's posting is a little off and terminating him would make the game so much easier to read. (This is reasonably bad logic though so there's a 95% chance I'll have a better read by the time it hits crunch point.)

Sorry for the late post, but I woke up a long time after the sun rose and have had some things to take care of. (I'm about to start cooking dinner and then I'm scheduled to watch something with a friend, so I won't post again for a while.)

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I'm sorry, my head hasn't exactly been in this game. With the fact that voting isn't possible anymore, i've sorta gotten a bit bored. I know that my claim shouldn't exactly confirm me too much, its just that with the way i've been posting i'm pretty sure you would recognize that i'm a VT at this point.

I'll try to start doing things this game, I have a general thoughts post that i'm working on right now.

Just got my glasses fixed, typing up my scum reads now.

here are my top three lynches for today
1. trojan

the player with the worst post to content ratio. by far. spam, one liners and zero content. tunnelled hard on kit. he just throws out "reads" on people with no explanation for them. some kind of reaction test which apparently tina failed (wat????). he thinks tom is scum. he thinks ness is scum. but for some reason, he thinks oath is the least scummy person in this game, but can't give a reason(?!!?!?!?!?). how he came to that conclusion based on oath's posts is beyond me. trojan hasnt got a ****ing clue wats going on in this game. all he succeeds in doing is spamming up the thread and baiting ness into doing the same. i think ness can make good reads, if he isnt engaged in a **** flinging contest with trojan. kill trojan today.

2. oath2order

he has two people on his scum list: ness, and myself. all he has said about me is that i would kill kit to confuse town, and i give him weird vibes (note: weird, not scummy). at one point he said he suspected dolby because of the blue deaths, but then seems to be satisfied with dolby's internet excuse. and finally he pushes me for lynch. well, barely makes an effort at it. says im quiet, havent made a solid suspicion on anyone (which is a lie, i've presented my stance on many people, and have been making an active attempt to figure the game out. just cuz im not spamming doesnt mean im quiet). this is all ironic given that despite being the 3rd most frequent poster, the best u can come up with is "he gives me weird vibes". i guess u recognise that, which is why u opted for such a meek tone: "i would be in favour of lynching karla" ie. "i want someone else to start a lynch on karla which i will totally hop on" ie. "hey guys just letting you know that if you want to lynch karla, be my guest" ie. NOT "i want to lynch karla" how all of that makes u the least scummiest player to trojan baffles scientists everywhere.

3. migmog/dolby

i guess i cheated when i said top three lynches, but these two essentially are the same for me. inactive and useless. and in the case of dolby, potentially very dangerous. cant rly make reads on people who dont post. maybe a vig can help deal with them.

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tina: glad ur posting at last. yes VT = vanilla townie. theres no reason for me (or anyone) to claim vet if they werent hit. ive cleared endless based on his posts and the N1 flips. i thought he was a relatively obvious first choice to save on N1 as a medic so i dont believe he's some sort of bulletproof mafia or third party role. i also have stated my concerns about trundles claim and am in no way dropping my guard wrt him.

what interests me is why ur approaching endless/trundle from the angle that one or both of them must be scummy. it seems awfully biased since u dont seem to have given any actual reads on either of them. it's incredibly paranoid to come up with theories that they are scum team in cahoots or some ridiciulous scenario where endless is third party who got shot by scumdle. leaving the "what happened N1" aside, can you give some actual reads on both their posting style and content? because you surely must have reason to dismiss the idea that endless is town.

also your thoughts on oath, since hes top of my suspicion list and u didnt address him in ur post

Panda- Really unsettling this game. She hasn?t contributed much, demands other peoples? reads when not doing any herself, and went into mysterious silence now.

In the beginning of the game she was just continually asking why Tom was king(not to the extent of Kit?s rage over it), asking how kingmaker works, and just overall didn?t do much the first half of D1 but posted plenty.

Panda1376 said:

@llamas i don't want to get it right later.... I WANT TO GET IT RIGHT... NOW ! as right as we can i know Day1 is usually a stab in the dark but i want to he'd as much light on it as we can.

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well you sure are acting it

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She?s ranting how she wants to find scum, but with her wasting her time with weeny and trojan(who was a troll and trojan who (doesn't do much to help, at times he comes through, but for the most part he's just.... there. ha). this to me, just looks like she?s trying to act like she?s scumhunting and appeal to town, when in reality she?s just doing nothing but posting with no content.

Panda1376 said:

welp, thanks for that.... now i die N1 and they frame you.

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Really weird comment. I don?t understand why she would say this.

Panda1376 said:

its not really Daniels trying or not trying thats sitting weird with me, the thing that stands out about him to me right now is that his number of post are very low compared to his usual amount of post, he usually chimes in a lot more and has something to say about everything, good or bad... so that's making me think he is kinda laying low and out of sight a lot more than the past games.

Kit's behavior does see a bit scummy but i don't think they would be putting themselves out there like that if they were mafia, so she probably won't be my vote today.

M3ow does seem a lot less helpful from last game.... she was pretty well organized as town just last week and now i don't know if its cause she's getting attacked or accused more this game but she seems distracted from the objective of sum hunting.

@Trundle there are over 20 people in this game... a few people are bound to have similar or the same opinions about something, and this game is about sharing what you feel and think about certain people and behavior and i was stating that i was unhappy so to Toms choice to have made that Strawpoll thingy, why couldn't we just vote in here but make is bold ? or a certain color for him ? that way everyone could see clearly the alignments going on ? that would be a lot more helpful for town now and in the future.

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Oh okay I?m suspicious for not spamming as much now? but you going completely quiet for 2 days is okay?

This is like the only time she voices her opinions, and it still isn?t much other than ?I don?t think they?re mafia? Which really doesn?t help town much.

Panda1376 said:

i am aware i haven't voted and i have explain why above.

i dunno if he'd be a good D1 my vote would probably be for Daniel or Ness. but what do i know im horrible at this game, i wish i was better. haha honestly.

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Says she wants either me or ness lynched.

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@Tom i Vote for Llamas.... thanks and i still would like a vote count to see how things went.

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But now i guess it?s time to drop it and vote llamas. Maybe because if she votes for them she won?t be held responsible for the llama lynch. But if she voted for ness or me, she would be questioned for the mislynch.

Panda1376 said:

LYNCH LLAMA !!!

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All of the sudden very keen on wanting llama dead without stating why she does.

Panda1376 said:

your only reason to lynch ness better not just be my iso post.... cause i suck at this game you better have your own better reasons to help town. please share your thoughts with us.

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But isn?t that what you do isos for? To get who you thought was scum lynched? seems like backing off to me.

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sorry ya im here, finally home from work, and yes have had couple drinks. i dunno what to say at the moment, just trying to read and figure out whats going on... its a same that Llamas had the nam Jon Snow as a townie cause its a major character in the series but at the same time its just a name so people shouldn't be blaming it just on the name.

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She doesn?t seem too disappointed or sad about the mislynch. Why did you want them lynched so badly that you forgot about me and ness?

After this is her commenting on Tina and Meg?s drinking night and posting memes of waiting for ness?s post. But then after this is total silence. She has indeed been online lurking recently, and it?s very unlike panda to just not say anything when there?s a lot to comment on. I think it?s just her going into the shadows hoping she?ll avoid being talked about, but not anymore.

M3ow- Literally every time they post is to defend themselves. Last game they were scumhunting pretty well,but now they're just doing nothing but defending. They spent quiet a lot of time looking at ashot's previous games to find out if he was scum or not(because being suspicious of you means he was scum of course) about hasn't spent time on the game we're playing right now. I expected more from them and it's very suspicious to me.

Meg/Dolby/Jello/avidear- All of them have been very silent. They have posted every once in a while, to either avoid being modkilled or to avoid suspicions of silence. But none of them have contribuated at all to the game, like at all. they all have accuses for why they're inactive, but I'm keeping an eye on them.
Trundle- Something sets me off about his vig claim. It just doesn't add up to me. But i don't see a reason why he would claim so quickly if he was scum.

So yeah, my priority suspicion is Panda. If you need me to elaborate on any of them let me know.

Endless said:

Remember when I said not to make Sataric king until I popped in again? God freaking damn it you failed that one kingmaker. No reason to pursue that path while Sataric is king because unlike Kit I'm here to do things actually beneficial to the day.

I was excited to read the 20 pages that'd been generated in my absence, but half of it is Trojan and ness ****posting. Trojan has 125 posts, Ness has 192. Ness you're more than doubling most of the players content here. I've posted 29 times and Sataric has posted 28 times. Ness, you have posted nearly 7 times as many posts as Sataric and he's got about 7 times as much content as you do. What you're currently doing is heavily bogging down the thread and barely achieving anything, content-wise. Ness, Trojan, Condense your posts.

Ness's role claim should be mutually exclusive to your read on him, mafia were almost definitely given fake claims to claim. (I wouldn't be surprised if they were given a stark fake claim either.)

Right now I haven't really got a focused red reads list but Trojan's posting is a little off and terminating him would make the game so much easier to read. (This is reasonably bad logic though so there's a 95% chance I'll have a better read by the time it hits crunch point.)

Sorry for the late post, but I woke up a long time after the sun rose and have had some things to take care of. (I'm about to start cooking dinner and then I'm scheduled to watch something with a friend, so I won't post again for a while.)

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Doesn't the kingmaker have a limit before they have to make someone the king

i mean you were gone for 18 hours

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seriously what is it with people this game who suddenly become suspicious of me after I say I become suspicious of them

oath2order said:

seriously what is it with people this game who suddenly become suspicious of me after I say I become suspicious of them

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this doesnt sound like a defence to me

KarlaKGB said:

this doesnt sound like a defence to me

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It's a statement.

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You say you have presented your stance, but it's for the most part "these seems scummy"

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Curious as to why you mention that "why this makes you town to Trojan I'll never know" or whatever but you don't mention that Sataric got town reads off of me.

I got at most six hours left of my day until I have to be in bed and ready for sleep, so I think it's time for us to get down to the nitty-gritty. I've heard plenty of cases, plenty of opinions, and some pretty good points being made by various different people. What I have NOT head is any serious dead-set decisions or "votes" on whom to lynch. All of us have suspects, and that's great, but when they do not align all that well it means that things are very much up in the air.

I feel that both of Tom's and Tina's posts were very good, though they do not clear either of them obviously. The way I see it though, we can take two approaches to this day - We either go for someone that doesn't contribute much at all to the game either way since it's still only just Day 2, and even if we mislynch it hopefully wouldn't be a disaster. Or we take a gamble and go for someone that many people find scummy that is a strong and active player, and hope for the best. Obviously the second choice is a greater gamble but also has higher chance of being more rewarding to town in the end.

Please do make your unofficial votes ASAP if you want me to take them into consideration. Thanks.

I've kept myself caught up with the thread through the day on my phone. I'm about to leave uni and I'm buying a new bass and then I'll be home.

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To help decide on a lynch *

Trundle said:

I'm buying a new bass

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don't drop it

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Sataric said:

I got at most six hours left of my day until I have to be in bed and ready for sleep, so I think it's time for us to get down to the nitty-gritty. I've heard plenty of cases, plenty of opinions, and some pretty good points being made by various different people. What I have NOT head is any serious dead-set decisions or "votes" on whom to lynch. All of us have suspects, and that's great, but when they do not align all that well it means that things are very much up in the air.

I feel that both of Tom's and Tina's posts were very good, though they do not clear either of them obviously. The way I see it though, we can take two approaches to this day - We either go for someone that doesn't contribute much at all to the game either way since it's still only just Day 2, and even if we mislynch it hopefully wouldn't be a disaster. Or we take a gamble and go for someone that many people find scummy that is a strong and active player, and hope for the best. Obviously the second choice is a greater gamble but also has higher chance of being more rewarding to town in the end.

Please do make your unofficial votes ASAP if you want me to take them into consideration. Thanks.

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I personally wouldn't mind lynching Dolby as a backup if we can't find anybody else good.

watch karla be like LOOK HE'S BACKTRACKING ON WHAT HE SAID ON DOLBY LYNCH HIM