Mafia Make Mafia Grate Again! Game Over! Town wins!

awwww I'm touched you all thought I was smart enough to come up with a term new to Mafia, but yeah it was Mother of all llamas.... I like to abbreviate a lot, and I have another fairly large post coming, and hopefully its more insightful than my first one lol

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OK! now that we know Inkling is a mafia, I think we can learn a lot by the people he called out while going out in a blaze of glory! Lets look at all his posts from this evening. This is not assuming that any of these people Bussed him or Inkling is bussing them (but will throw comments in about that)

First off Xine and Shiida had always voiced their suspicions about him and voted very very early for him. So very strong showing town to me now for obvi reasons

inkling said:
this is crazy. you're literally the most inactive member here.

also, im not sure what im suppose to defend myself against? i already responded to xine's reads. im not as impressed by them as others seem to be, though her posts are a breath of fresh air compared to most of what's been going on.

But like I said, whenever I've been on, everybody was inactive. I had a long day at work. ive beeen checking in in the evenings if you haven't noticed.

I still need to focus on who im going to vote for anyways so i can't defend myself much. But if you'd like, you can go back and read my original defense.

this was in response to Mother of all Llamas' post made right before he came back. I'm really happy about this because he probably gut reacted to it, and lashed back given meta, so very strong town lean for Llamas, which is good because they never post :D

inkling said:
i gave my opinion last night. i posted my reads. how can i have an opinion right now when i just got home and said ill catch up.

im not scared of voicing my opinions, but i think its pretty dangerous to vote so randomly.

looking at how he uses "vote" and the striking back at those who strike him, I give a town lean to taesaek too

inkling said:
im just saying that i think its important to vote according to proper scum motivations. i have been trying to help town, and if im voted against i definitely won be useful to town in the future

strong words again Panda, means leaning towards a town lean for them.

inkling said:
okay ill make a more organized post. stay tuned

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actually im scum reading aron and me0w. i think theyre a team and im gonna argue that. voting aron is risky though i think he's a safe claim, but we have time for that. i have my reasons for thinking m3ow so that might be my vote and i will explain further im just kinda nervous from other's reactions tbh. like, m3ow is kinda scary and everybody seems to believe aron but i don't

its a pretty big bold assumption to call out Meow and Aron for being on a team. He was already in it a little bit with Aron, so calling them out makes me feel like they will lean town now

inkling said:
i havent really seen qwerty contribute much, and im wondering why. are they trying not to be noticed>
this call out was like completely out of the blue... so I would put Qwerty on town

inkling said:
In general, Crys likes to think she can trick us with her meta and not give away too much. But its still there. From what I've heard, she plays more serious when she is scum.
They haven't given any reads and is posting minimally. When Crys trys to help town and figure everybody out, they post actively and contribute with substance.

very strong words against Crys!

inkling said:
m3ow,

cadb is definitely scum

Heyden thankfully asked him who he was scum once we all knew... which gives townie points to Heyden for me
as well as now Cadberry was getting called out.

When looking at these, I think we should def look at who he just kinda randomly called out for no reason or lashed back at Like qwerty and MoAL to see them as stronger possibilities for town. As well as Inkling got deeper into it, they would've been more likely to start making smarter decisions and get influence about what to do from other mafia players

Overall the only person who kinda made a weak statement going against Inkling and didn't get a lashing thread back was Call me Daniel. Alexi was also scarcely left out of anything. But I think had suspicions leading up to this about Inkling which seems townie. Also Inkling called out Cory and Heyden for making similar posts to him, but I forgot to quote it... but that would seem like the worst thing to say for your fellow mafians. I am gonna look now at posts before Inkling came back to see who was purporting lynching him before all this happened!

Then you get the issue of bussing, so what would you think Inkling's chances of actually bussing any of these people? the only person I think who I could see being clever enough to use this as an opportunity to bus themselves is like Crys. His out of character attempt at looking organized against However my reads on bussing are not very experienced hence why I wanted to just present this info in an organized fashion and resource so we can look over Inklings work tonight! thanks homie! but I like this because if we can get a good grasp of who is Town then we can flip it to see who is left to consider for Mafia.

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good no one post merge blocked me!

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heydenn thankfully asked Inkling who he thought was scum once we all knew* that little bit was worded terribly

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if anything else this is a just a good recap of things you could've organized yourself. and organizes all of inklings posts for people to use for their own reads and reasonings
 
No I don't think xine is scum. In the small chance that she is. I do not want everyone to just follow her blindly. I think she is town.
 
No I don't think xine is scum. In the small chance that she is. I do not want everyone to just follow her blindly. I think she is town.

Don't worry Cory, I'm probably dying. If there's a watcher, watch me.

I will try to post reads before Night ends but I have a lot going on so I can not really make promises.
 
jfc I still can't believe on day 1 there was over 1k+ posts smh, can we try and be more consistent with our posts maybe?
i shouldnt be one to talk though lol
 
Damn, nice job Toads.

I went through myself and tried to see wherever inkling was mentioned to see if that could bring up any new information. Gonna try to not overlap with yours. Green = town, Red = scum, Yellow = Neutral, Grey = Null

Xine and Shiida both expressed scumreads towards inkling throughout.

inkling is probs emotional scummy townie again :/

@Panda, I don't think Ness would give up if he was scum...

also, thank you xine i'm glad im not the only one who's noticed the change in inkling's behavior from previous games.

As I have not played before this kind of insight from past games really helps. Inkling has been acting a little sus from the tiny amount I know of from watching the littlest bit of the Tarot game and Mother I dont think I have seen and maybe that is due to them not replying. Maybe we should leave mother to mod kill if they dont reply after a few days and look at inkling as a prime target.

I'm going to vote for inkling mainly because her activity in the game has been really off. Her tone is also less aggresive and I can sebse that her posts seem pretty forced. At first I thought they were changing to not start up any arguements again, but right now I'm definitely getting a feeling thats she could possibly be scum. As for Alexi, I'm not too sure what to think of her yet but I don't feel right voting her after the turnover of events for hee and emotions are probably just getting to her. I'm more confident with an Inkling vote anyhow.
And to address the people, yes, I know my inactivity irritates you all so I'm probably going to only sign up for replacements from now on... Sorry for inconveniencing you all...

Note: my vote is not firm, depending on Inklings defense of course

BZZZ. Wrong.
In context, he was saying inkling was wrong about the case being against him was weak. So Ness scumread inkling at this point.

Really sorry about my inactivity guys, I've been with a friend helping her out with some personal issues.

I can't make my reads until I get home, if I have time I'll post if not it'll come at night. But I'm noticing a few people going the Alexi/Inkling wagon. I don't have an issue with the candidates, but I won't vote until I get home to properly read the recent posts. Sorry for that folks.

You back pedaling over and over and when you say you'll provide a defense is not helping you. Like at all.

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When you say you'll provide a defense but don't*

I don't have time to do proper substantial reads on everyone and I'm mostly unsure for the timebeing so expect something better depending on Inklings flip, but for now;
Null|Townread|Townlean|Slight Sus|High Sus|Scum

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Inkling[~snip~]

From what I'm reading, I don't like Inkling's reaction to Xine's case on him. Even though the case was pretty weak, the defensiveness he reacted with isn't very town like. I see the same reaction to this case the same as his reaction to other cases in previous game, so I'm really not sure. I'll look more in depth with it when I get home. But that's my initial reaction
I threw in purple to highlight uncertainty in a read. MoAL seems like the kind who would do that, but I wouldn't peg Daniel as trying to be wishy washy like that. So that's definitely got me concerned about him. There's also that Heyden initially townread him, which I see a stronger scum motivation for to try to wave off suspicion against someone and then when they were a lost cause, jump on the bandwagon.
 
Yeah okay, I initially thought she was town as the start of the game for reasons but my opinion changed after the turnover the events.
 
In context they're saying inkling is lying, so scum.

Yo, I missed quite a bit and I don't have time to read everything before D1 ends. could someone explain why they're suspicious of Inkling? My current vote is Alexi but if someone could give or link to me some good reasons why Inkling is scum I'll unvote.

Here is my attempt at reads, first ever full list reads so I hope i did it right. Sorry if the information is just rehashes of others but I did my best to give me opinions. Spent an hour working on these, I hope these come across good

Using SarasaKat's color codes
Very town
Slight town
Neutral/Null
Slight suspicions
Heavy scum read


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Inkling- Very sus of, being very quick to fight accusations with little evidence. Getting questioned but dodging questions, over all I am thinking they are scum
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@Xine are you not in favor of a Ness lynch given how he's acted in the last few hours with what little time we have left ? I want you opinion cause i get accused of tunneling (especially him) a lot (so I've been told recently) and i just want a fresh opinion.

Still in favor of a Ness or Inkling lynch. (neither of you please don't blow up on me)

Almost forgot these
 
Almost done with the reads. Only like 1 more case to make and 4 other reads. I actually read through all of the D1 posts so y'all better read it when it's up
 
Officer Hopps reporting for duty!

I've started reading, but feel I should clear up a little misunderstanding. While both the banned players were alternate accounts there is no reason to believe they were alts of the same person. So, to the person who focused on how they were posting differently (I think it was Aron?), there is nothing to be gained from comparing the two.
 
Hello you impatient people, it?s everybody?s favorite part of the day, my reads! I didn?t have time to make proper reads until I got home. I could make shallow reads like a lot of people are doing, but that?s not me. When I make reads, they?re gonna be bombasss reads. Well here they are:
Day 1 Reads and Reflections

A letter by Daniel A. Scummington




Thoughts on day 1:
I really dislike the huge number of posts that were generated from this day. From start game to Night 1, we all made 965 posts(Yes I also reread all of these posts last night). This makes the game really hard to follow with since there?s so much to read and it makes the reads a lot longer to make. I would be okay with this if the posts came from all the players posting, but it?s really only a circle of like 10 people who made the majority of them. A lot of the posts are from the troll and Aron claiming reaction, but I hope we all can condense our posts a bit. I wanna see big questions and reads that are pretty good for Day 2 remember kids Quantity=/= Quality.
You know what I think of the troll. I sensed it immediately from when they posted the thing about their husband divorce or whatever and ending their posts in xx. I?ve seen many a trolls in my day, and this is no exception.
The reads that a lot of players posted aren?t satisfying to me either, they?re really bland. A couple of the reads from people are good, but they?re very short and not supported. I really like seeing facts in cases, because it?s the only proper way for players to give a proper defense for their actions. It also shows where you?re coming from in your thinking. While I do appreciate the attempt to post thoughts an opinions, I?d rather more supported and deep reads and cases.

Nice that scum was lynched on the first day, but i saw a lot of bandwagoning. I?m not taking credit for the lynch since i didn?t have time to help, but good job town. This was the saving grace of this day.

So yeah, Condensing and supporting posts would make Day 2 much better I believe.


Top Scum reads:​
Crys- Been pretty observant on Crys this game, and a few things throw me off.
Honeydew or tardis lynch d1?

The Honeydew lynch is weird. All they said is that they have a QT with Tardis. Literally right after that you said you were for the 2 accused QTers to be lynched. Did you consider the possibility of trolling? It makes no sense for someone actually trying to play, to admit they have a QT like that. You could say the doc claim by Aron was stupid, but at least it was from pressure and doesn?t confirm he?s scum. Claiming to have a QT with someone for no reason would mean they?re either mafia, masons, or lovers. Even as mafia, if one were to die, it would only confirm that the other isn?t a town QT player and is scum too. There?s literally no reason to have said that other than trolling(or complete stupidity), so why are you so for their lynch when they didn?t even explain themselves yet?
Then Honey says
Anyway please lynch Tardis and Shiida before it is too late, this is my final and sweetest goodbye.
This is practically confirming that they?re a troll. Any player of any role with a QT would definitely not want their partner dead. But they say do so here. But you say:
Honeydew literally confessed to using quicktopic pls lynch

But why though? In what way does that make sense to lynch them for that? Don?t worry, you?re not the only one who believed in that QT claim, and I?ll get to them. :lemon:
no offense but playing with ness is so hard because every game I think he's scum. I'm heading off to bed now, bye.

Was this a reaction test? As you didn?t explain why you thought he was scum. Seems pretty off to me.
I had a dream I was cop and died night 1 lmao.

I would be ok with an Aron lynch tbh.

The first sentence is weird and literally had no point in posting. Don?t understand why you said that.
mfw Cory likes to call himself a town leader and doesn't do anything to lead town. Im down with a Cory lynch actually.

Pretty quick to change the vote. Didn?t really explain why Cory was a better player to vote for than Aron either.
Also the reads they posted, aren?t so grand like they made it to be. I was waiting on a bunch of facts and reads, but the reads seemed pretty quickly thrown together in like 10-20 minutes. Doesn?t really help much either in my opinion, but hey at least you got the reads you were waiting more.

Not the biggest scum read, but these posts really weird me out.

SarasaKat- A lot of her posts are questionable to say the least.
Nice we have two outed mafia already though. I'd say we lynch Honey for the hell of it today. Or if we have a dayvig by chance <3

Clam, I see you lurking. Any thoughts so far?
Why are you sure that the 2 are scum? Why would it make sense for scum to slip so carelessly? Like i said about Crys, I don't understand your thought process here. Why say Tardis is confirmed scum when he didn't even respond to honey's claim? Did you not consider them possibly being masons/lovers? Pretty weird thing to say.
Basically anything I said about Crys quickly thinking honey was scum applies here to.

Wolfy pop in

I actually like this post. Doubt he'd be thinking of villa cores if he was mafia

Why? Cory could easily try to appear town and say that as scum, yet you just clear him here...
Very true, except I wasn't really aware of my meta until Cory just pointed them out, but it makes sense now that he mentions what it is.

I don't think he's lock clearing me though.
Seems pretty weird to just agree with what Cory says when he's town reading you. This post seems pretty off.
What motivation would a mafian have to not reveal reasons? That's basically asking to get attacked.

So being secretive and holding back info is town? I thought it was the exact opposite. Seems like you're not bothering to listen to reason why Aron would be lying.
Then you say this:
This Aron bandwagon is gross.

But 5 minutes later say this:
I'm... actually starting to agree with this. Doc has no reason to claim, especially this early into day. And considering he says he's played before, he should know better.

Starting to think the pressure got to him.
Seems to me like you realized that others aren't believing Aron's telling the truth, so now you gotta switch your stance or else they'll think you're scummy to me.
Tbh this is screaming ****ty coverup to me but eugh.
You go from firmly believing Aron was town to him being scum very quickly.
But bae ;(

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Even though the claim disturbs me beyond end, his tone reads pure. So putting him as town again.

You pressed him a lot and agree with the claim making no sense, but you town read him again? What?
I say we don't kill claimed Doc and move onto something else. I know the claim is odd but this is a Doctor we're dealing with here.

I sense mob mentality coming back and I don't like it.

It seems like you're just going with whatever town is believing right now. First they think he's scum, so you think he's scum. Then they think he's town, so now you think he's town. Your opinion on Aron is very wishy washy and I don't like it.
What have you contributed this game?

Didn't you say Cory was town for saying he wanted a villa core? What have you really contributed that made you more of a contributor than Cory?

Her posts after this also have a weird tone to them, but I can't put my finger on exactly why.
And things can have multiple potential meanings, which is what makes mafia hard. Like for example, I'm trying to help you here so you can figure things out better and be a better asset to town. But someone could also look at me helping and think that I'm trying to gain your favor so you're more inclined to trust me. And these multiple dimensions is what makes mafia hard.

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@everyone - We are going to find scum to lynch today. Make a case on your biggest scumspect.

Btw I have work in 3 hours so I won't be on here when day ends.

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Alright, gonna take a look at Kevinn here.

http://www.belltreeforums.com/search.php?searchid=5588049

He's been very quiet (obviously), and the only times he posts are saying he's catching up and in replies. He hasn't really contributed at all, or really tried to contribute. In fact, the only time he actively posted as in questioning and **** was when he was indirectly under attack (for being associated with inactive/new members for being the lynch). And while I agree that's stupid/flawed logic, the fact that that's all he felt like he wanted to reply to seems a bit odd to me. At least Cad seemed like she was trying to contribute and figure things out. Kevinn hasn't at all, even in the few times he has posted.
The bolded part is really weird too.

Also, why just Kevinnn for being inactive? Why not Qwerty/Inkling/Llamas for being inactive too?
Tbh I would have imagined mafia would have talked about the Doc claim at length by now, so I'm derp clearing him anti-mafia at least.
What? Anyone would literally get online find out about the doc claim and say that. Did you also not consider that statement being fabricated? Why clear him for saying that?

These are the posts that are the weirdest to me in my opinion.

Honestly Sarasa has been very weird this whole game. Flip flopping opinions like that, quickly clearing people for no real reason, and overall isn't her usual self. I'm thinking she's scum. Awaiting your response to his Kat.


Reads on other players:
Cory-
https://youtu.be/sPbtlFVV3X0
Not too sure what I think of cory so far. He had a pretty big ego in putting himself in the strongest scum hunter pedestal, when he really wasn?t doing much. That seemed to me like he was shoving it down our throats that he was trying to help, and he spent more time telling us that actually scum hunting. I didn?t like that. But then I reconsidered my suspicions when he got into a very heated fight with Aron that almost made them quit the game. While you could say that?s a scum trying to make a distraction or pressing a town player into spilling the beans, I see really no purpose in scum doing this. In all the time I?ve played here, all of the heated fights(ex. Tae and Inkling in Tarot, Trojan and Ness in Scummies, Jacob and I in BoI etc), it?s mainly just 2 town fighting. Not only is it stupid to press him as scum because there?s really nothing else to gain from it because he already claimed doc and it would make him pretty suspicious to doing so for no reason. I town read him from this, EDIT: Also now that i read his cautiousness on immediately clearing Xine, it?s not logical but understandable. While I highly doubt Xine would drive a teammate to lynching but I understand the fear of trusting someone too quickly. I usually don?t trust anyone too much, until deeper into the game, so I see where this response would come from a town. Town leaning on him for me.

Xine- Pretty certain they?re town. Or at least anti mafia. I highly doubt a mafian would make a case and lead a lynch for their teammate on Day 1. Really makes no sense for a mafian to do that and just let town go for another lynch.
Aron- I think they?re town. It really makes no sense for mafia to have freaked out and posted like he did. I think any scum team would silence Aron from getting defensive and emotional like he did. Not only that, but general reaction to everyone pressing him for claiming doc and Cory getting in a fight with him seems pretty genuine to me. Like town actually feeling bad or screwing up so badly. I don?t think scum could fake emotions like that or would do that in the first place. The whole thing with the ?or I could just be messing with you? is the only thing that throws me off. I don?t think scum would say that, but a jester would. Toying with town?s minds is pretty Anti town and would probably be considered going against your WinCon. Other than that post, I think they?re actually telling the truth. Not to sure on the Ronald Reagan
Qwerty- Not really sure what to think of them. The only post that is actually important to look at is their reads. And even then, the reads are really short and are more like summaries than actual reads. Pretty quiet so I can?t say much on them.
Toadsworthy- Seems pretty protown to me. I?m a fan of the reads he makes with facts, so I?m a fan of his attempt to help town. Seems like a pretty sincere attempt to put town in the right direction. I read the reads to, and i can see where you're coming from. Keep it up with those posts.
Panda- Stepped up her game this time. Not sure what the reason would be for this change, but it?s helping town a lot more. Your posts have substance and a purpose, and it seems you put a lot of thought and analyzing to make them. She hasn?t been too aggressive and tunneling like she usually is, so I?m thinking it could possibly be scum panda trying to act more helpful. Regardless, she?s not one of my top scum reads and I?m leaning more town to her.
Tardis- Town leaning here. Their questions have a purpose and it seems that he?s genuinely trying to help town. While the whole case on the alt makes no sense(I don?t even think we can lynch someone who was modkilled), at least he?s trying to make a case to help town. When he was scum in tarot, he didn?t try helping town or make cases but instead just tried to look like he was contributing by making small comments and claiming really quickly for reason. It was just a pretty obvious attempt to try to be town in that game, and I don?t see that here. Town reading to the effort he?s putting in. Also
can vigs overlap with a mafia kill?
Is this a soft claim?

Kevinnn- Their posts have nothing of real value other than admitting that they are unconfident in their reads and silent. Hasn?t contributed much, but they are a newbie, so that would explain it. Can?t get a read of their posts, null.
Cadbberry- From what she?s posted, it seems like she holding back on stuff. She seems to just agree with people and accept any suspicions on her as she says here
My reaction was more just confusion currently, I guess I have made a few sus posts but seems most people are sus of me. I can not stop people from having those reactions immediately but I hope as the games go on I will be more trustworthy

Instead of really defending herself. I understand she?s a noobie, so she probably has no clue what to do, but you really need to get out of your shell if you?re really town. Can?t give a proper read until i see more posts so nulled.
ClamsEatCurry- The typical noobie, asking questions on the game, but not really stating many thoughts besides commenting on others. Nothing in his posts say scum, but nothing says town. I?d love for you to post your reads or more detailed thoughts so i can get a better read on you. Null for now.
M3ow_- Has a few interesting posts I?d like to bring up.
Yo leave Aron alone, he's obvious nob. Bummer that he claimed. Still better than lynching cop d1 :^)

@Aron, you need to do one of two things

1. Save yourself N1. N2 save your town read.

2. Save someone else N1 since mafia will assume you're saving yourself and not want to waste a shot on you

This is assuming there isn't a mafia roleblocker, which is pretty likely. so good luck. I suggest option 2.



10/10

Not a fan of people telling PRs what to do out in the open. If he actually takes your advice, it?s just telling the scum team on how to plan their actions. I think it?s best for the PRs to do what they think is best.
Tardis, we aren't lynching someone that claimed Doctor. If he doesn't die sometime soon we can come back to him. But we are not lynching Aron, end of story.

Anyone that jumps on the Aron bw will be throwing themselves in my crosshairs :blush:

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great! & no worries, ty ty

Pretty aggressive thing to say here. It seems like you?re trying to intimidate people to not mess with Aron, but also not mess with you. Would like to note that a Tae and a couple of other people still questioned the doc claim and you didn?t do anything to them, all you said is that we?re not lynching them. All bark but no bite?

I saw the case on Alexi, and since you were pretty keen on an Alexi lynch, I?m pretty sure one is scum while the other is town. So depending on which one of you flips if you died, I?ll see what to think next. Scum leaning.
Mother of Llamas- Honestly not too sure what to think of her. She does the same old ?inactive but randomly pops in? thing she does like every game. The only two important posts are her reads and her reason for voting. The reads are pretty weak and are more summaries of what they?ve done so far instead of actual opinions on their play.
I'm going to vote for inkling mainly because her activity in the game has been really off. Her tone is also less aggresive and I can sebse that her posts seem pretty forced. At first I thought they were changing to not start up any arguements again, but right now I'm definitely getting a feeling thats she could possibly be scum. As for Alexi, I'm not too sure what to think of her yet but I don't feel right voting her after the turnover of events for hee and emotions are probably just getting to her. I'm more confident with an Inkling vote anyhow.
And to address the people, yes, I know my inactivity irritates you all so I'm probably going to only sign up for replacements from now on... Sorry for inconveniencing you all...

Note: my vote is not firm, depending on Inklings defense of course

Your activity is pretty off too, why is Inkling?s weird? Also how is their posts being less aggressive scummy? The reason for voting is pretty vague here. Leaning towards scum for her.
Alexi- Scum leaning here. She has an odd tone to her posts at seem really forced and all she really has done is defend herself and agreeing with other people. Also just accepting her suspicions when people state them saying ?Yeah I see why you said this? instead of confidently justifying herself. The post that really throws me off is this:
@ness, why are you focusing so much on sarasakat? she's been townread by every single one of us. she even townread YOU adn you still think she's scum?
idk.. like I said, getting weird vibes from ness - i think he's just trying to take the attention off of the fact some of us were sus that he just left.
Pretty odd thing to say. So just because they townread you means you should town read them? That really makes no sense here, any scum also town reads people you know. Possible scum.




Shiida- I like this player. She?s pretty confrontational and doesn?t seem to be hiding anything so far, which I don?t think a new scum would do. All of her comments and posts appear to have some sort of reasoning and substance behind it. I?m interested in what you?ll have to post in the future, town reading.
Heyden- Aggressive and a bit pushy this game which i would say would be scummy, but you did the same in other games too, so it fits in with your town meta. Not reserved or holding anything bad it seems. Will wait patiently or your reads and concrete thoughts on the game so far. Seems to be pretty helpful. Town reading.
Taeseak- Not sure here. His posts don?t really pop out as pro or anti town. They?re kinda just there. Most of his reads and opinions aren?t really anything new and he seems really keen on praising him xine and worships them. While the agreeing with whatever Xine says is a bit weird, it?s not really enough in itself to make me suspicious. Watching out for him, but null.
N e s s- Pretty iffy on this read. The whole attitude towards clearing noobies really quickly is off. Pretty aggressive like usual and nothing extraordinary sticks out to me. His posts are just, okay, not a leading scumhunter but not a lurker. Null for now, can?t get a read from him.

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Jesus Christ that took hours to make, taking a break now because i spent so much time on this
 
You haven't noticed from our conversations? :C

@Cory Stop being good at reading me lmao

Daniel reminded me of this post
The last line sounds so fake and weird.

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Also bad list because you didn't post reads on the people in obs
 
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Also bad list because you didn't post reads on the people in obs

You're right how could i be so foolish?
Natty- They've been extremly silent, scum lurking in the shadows?
Minties- Should lead town, very good player. Hopefully she's not N1 killed again.
Tom- He's posting in other places in the cellar but purposfully ignores this thread, pretty scummy.
lynn105- Very helpful town player.
JellofishXD- Please modkill
Jacob- Stop liking my posts and actually post god dammit
Dad- He said he was reading but didn't say anything else. Very scummy.
 
@daniel, your whole case basically revolves around the troll. I am actually really gullible and didn't believe it was a troll at first. It was my first time actually seeing one on tbt mafia. I like how you specifically point me out when others had said they were okay with honeydew or tardis lynch.

2. Votes can be taken and put back on. Too say I'm scum for voting and trying to get the game started or reaction testing is a bad reasoning lol.

3. Ok that cop thing is true but I didn't want my post to be a one liner so I decided to add it, not everything has a deeper meaning to

4. The reason my reads took 16 hours were because 12 were for sleeping, 4 helping my mom out at home. Sometimes my life has to come before a mafia game.

5. At least I posted reads I usually don't do them and when I do post them they suck ass and it did take me more than 20 minutes so you can **** off.

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Also you just stuck a fat target on tardis. They could be asking that question as mafia, a town just wanting to know. But posting asking if this is a safe claim really just gave mafia another target to gg lol.
 
I'll reply to thing in full later but Im just not feeling it rn. IRL ****.

Feel free to ask away for individual questions though

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@Daniel Masons/Lovers never happen on here. Didnt consider it

Flip flopping was due to the reasoning I didn't give when Ness asked. Still not giving it.

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Someone ease post I need to take my mind off of things
 
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