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Mafia TBT Mafia: Attack on Titan - [Game Over/Town Wins]
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these I can actually agree with, but Kevin was already pretty sus of her d2, yet never voted for her so idk.
wild blue yonder
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Why I suspect Aya2order-
Kinda awk defense of Cad
Completely avoids talking about Tom despite anchoring a lot of her reads around entropy
Furthermore Cad had her as strong town for most of the game even though they disagree almost entirely on reads (including Cory, Heyden, entropy, Jacob, Trundle, Alexi) and Cad seems really reluctant to give town leans on actual townies in general based on Tom interactions or anything (or at least the people I'm townreading). Cad calls out shiida (not an easy mislynch) and not Aya about voting behavior when I'd think she'd be an easy person to throw shade on
Idk if anyone actually knows if it's notable for Aya to basically only give townreads
I don't think oath has done anything townie so far
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I guess she gave scumreads on Trundle and Jacob briefly but walks them both back really quickly
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But mostly she seems nervous and like she's spewing out townreads because she has perfect information and is having trouble faking scumreads
Input from anyone who has played with her previously would be awesome
I intend to look more at tae and Alexi as well
This literally reads like she's unhappy she rolled scum and is trying to fill the void with rainbows. As I've mentioned she's already excusing herself for if she focuses overly on "bad town" and then later ends up with a vote on a new player
Esp considering the stated preference for being town the self consciousness is not a good look unless she like gets lynched every gameLol either way I'm gonna look scummy, but will do! I want to improve my scumhunting this game
Have mentioned this before but the post this is replying to is not one of entropy's better posts and so this really reads like appeasing her and like the initial suspicion of entropy was contrived
Surprisingly helpless to take a voting stance despite some in depth questioning (afraid to make waves?)
Kinda awk defense of Cad
Completely avoids talking about Tom despite anchoring a lot of her reads around entropy
Furthermore Cad had her as strong town for most of the game even though they disagree almost entirely on reads (including Cory, Heyden, entropy, Jacob, Trundle, Alexi) and Cad seems really reluctant to give town leans on actual townies in general based on Tom interactions or anything (or at least the people I'm townreading). Cad calls out shiida (not an easy mislynch) and not Aya about voting behavior when I'd think she'd be an easy person to throw shade on
Idk if anyone actually knows if it's notable for Aya to basically only give townreads
I don't think oath has done anything townie so far
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I guess she gave scumreads on Trundle and Jacob briefly but walks them both back really quickly
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But mostly she seems nervous and like she's spewing out townreads because she has perfect information and is having trouble faking scumreads
Input from anyone who has played with her previously would be awesome
I intend to look more at tae and Alexi as well
wild blue yonder
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I think that my vote timing is a really surface level reason to suspect me
I was the first if not one of the first to voice suspicion of her in this game (D1) and ~N1 said I was sheep voting because no one seemed to care about my Aya and Cadbb and Curry suspicions so it wouldn't be pragmatic to vote
I also felt awkward about pushing that read because of multiple people defending her for meta with zero explanation and by the time I got a better grasp on the game she was already mechanically rly likely scum
I don't know why as scum I wouldn't realize she's going down and make it a focus to look good by voting early.
I was the first if not one of the first to voice suspicion of her in this game (D1) and ~N1 said I was sheep voting because no one seemed to care about my Aya and Cadbb and Curry suspicions so it wouldn't be pragmatic to vote
I also felt awkward about pushing that read because of multiple people defending her for meta with zero explanation and by the time I got a better grasp on the game she was already mechanically rly likely scum
I don't know why as scum I wouldn't realize she's going down and make it a focus to look good by voting early.
I was just reaction testing Alexi, and she was pretty reluctant about Kevin... hmm
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Well not just her, you as well but idk what to think about your response, you were pretty defensive first off as well
wild blue yonder
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I have strong feelings about her flipping scum. I both feel happy that my initial read on her was right and mad myself for not being more confident about it and I've been thinking a lot tonight/writing in my will about to what extent that makes the people that broke my confidence in the read more likely mafia and to what extent I am just kinda bat****
So you kinda hit a nerve
Also I was like wtf have you read any of my posts
So you kinda hit a nerve
Also I was like wtf have you read any of my posts
I mean I've only played 1 game (this being 2) games with Ayaya so I had to go back on some of her past games but just incase & you have the time, there's a site that links everyones player history
http://tbtmafia.wikia.com/wiki/Ayaya
or you could do http://tbtmafia.wikia.com/wiki/oath2order
honestly it seems like some people just aren't doing that this game.
@hayden: how is that a reaction test though? like i'm reluctant about kevinnn cause i rly don't think he would have been one of the first ones sus of her, but he didn't vote right away so it's like he was waiting to see how everyone else thought about it. idk i've been half town leaning, half sus reading him this whole game rly.
I also didn't vote for Cad in the end ; c ;
I see tae as suspicious right now. I was comparing Cad's will, and seeing as how Cad was playing this game, I don't think she'll want to endanger any of her team mates. That shows from when she was trying to save Tom last minute by saying she thought he was using his town meta/etc even though no one else agreed with her. Despite the risk that made by making her look more suspicious, she still did it in a last attempt to save Tom. Since tae is town leaned on both her will and last read, that makes me the most suspicious of them. As you've pointed out, it's definitely suspicious for mafia and tae to shoot the exact same person (unless tae is mafia himself). There's a chance they could have used it to frame tae, but if that's the case, why would they waste a kill on someone who's already going to die (Ashtot)?
Also what Curry pointed out, I definitely agree with and this quote looks like a last ditch attempt to save Tom as well. Honestly, this quote never picked up my radar because I didn't know what the entire content of that meant xD After playing the game for a while I figured out what sheeping was ahahaha!!
Also is it normal for people with blue roles to not shoot when they have a chance to?
On a side note, I have work today from 9am to 5pm, so I probably won't be on until then. I'll definitely check in to read whatever I missed or making make some inputs during my lunch break/break though!! cx As for my reads, I think I'll refrain from posting it and leave it in my will. If I don't get sniped, as always, I'll post my will. c:
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@Dolby
whoops forgot to reply back up there to your quote XD
And I see what you mean mean now. xD Thanks!
In answer to the bold - vig's typically shouldn't shoot day 1 as everyones reads are kinda all over the place and it's likely they'll just shoot an innocent townie. Reads become way more telling day 2 (sometimes) and on. but since they had both claimed, it only made sense to prove their claims then on that upcoming night.
Also, since we asked both vig's to claim who they shot 2 mins before day post was up, mafia couldn't have known who tae targeted, hence they wouldn't been able to frame him. I mean, tardis was making it pretty obvious who he was gonna shoot but tae has kind of been a "wild card" as he called himself in this post here.
oath2order
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wild blue yonder
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I guess a problem I have with seeing tae as scum is that his claim seems disadvantageous to me even if it was given to him as a fakeclaim because ultimately even if it gets Tardis mislynched it's going to look weird for tae when he can't prove the KP, when I think as scum he could have skated for longer without doing so? It's risky at best for what would be first time scum
That being said Crys (who mafia killed right after) initially thought TARDIS's claim was more believable than tae's and seemed to think it was super unlikely for both to be town, wish I knew why
Also I guess him being vig could explain why he kept talking about not wanting to be misvigged, and I feel like the Ramadan read on Aya is more townie (scum deciding to say that feels strange to me)
It is indeed random that he's her top town (in the read list in response to him at least I can see why she'd do it to appease him but that read staying after the vig situation is more strange; she still has him as townier than Tardis even when Tardis is conf town to her) and it's too bad she didn't explain her town reads more.
My read on him is mixed. I don't really know why he strongly suspects Trundle (relatedly, I just read a Cad post calling Trundle's investigation on Dolby "very weird" and seeing how she approached Tom I think she has every reason to keep hammering in that a JOAT partnered with her is obv townie). Him jester hunting for a lot of d1 and his scum reads not being that clear aren't the best look either
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Your argument about the Kat nightkill is interesting but it seems like it may be ascribing immaturity to him? Like if he's scum I don't think he's actually that annoyed at her and is just posting it to post; maybe he hopes he can get her mislynched for ****posting in his opinion. It's possible a team with him on it would be more likely to kill her just because he was very, like, aware of her but I find it WIFOMy and not particularly more likely than other explanations (they thought she was a PR for lurking and/or she had good suspicions - Crys thought her death made Cad and Alexi look worse).
He is really cheeky about cad after a certain point, e.g. in that quote. Dunno how I feel about it.
I like your point about his Tom read + iso as a whole, and the one about the Ashtot kill situation makes some sense even if I'm not sure I agree.
That being said Crys (who mafia killed right after) initially thought TARDIS's claim was more believable than tae's and seemed to think it was super unlikely for both to be town, wish I knew why
Also I guess him being vig could explain why he kept talking about not wanting to be misvigged, and I feel like the Ramadan read on Aya is more townie (scum deciding to say that feels strange to me)
This is p like formal and seems offset from how he goes abt other reads
This one is interesting because I think he doesn't really prod anyone else for stances, but after it a lot of his posts are dedicated to burying her -
It is indeed random that he's her top town (in the read list in response to him at least I can see why she'd do it to appease him but that read staying after the vig situation is more strange; she still has him as townier than Tardis even when Tardis is conf town to her) and it's too bad she didn't explain her town reads more.
My read on him is mixed. I don't really know why he strongly suspects Trundle (relatedly, I just read a Cad post calling Trundle's investigation on Dolby "very weird" and seeing how she approached Tom I think she has every reason to keep hammering in that a JOAT partnered with her is obv townie). Him jester hunting for a lot of d1 and his scum reads not being that clear aren't the best look either
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Are roles distributed randomly or flubbed for balance on this site?
Your argument about the Kat nightkill is interesting but it seems like it may be ascribing immaturity to him? Like if he's scum I don't think he's actually that annoyed at her and is just posting it to post; maybe he hopes he can get her mislynched for ****posting in his opinion. It's possible a team with him on it would be more likely to kill her just because he was very, like, aware of her but I find it WIFOMy and not particularly more likely than other explanations (they thought she was a PR for lurking and/or she had good suspicions - Crys thought her death made Cad and Alexi look worse).
He is really cheeky about cad after a certain point, e.g. in that quote. Dunno how I feel about it.
I like your point about his Tom read + iso as a whole, and the one about the Ashtot kill situation makes some sense even if I'm not sure I agree.
@Wild: I've never hosted so I can't say for sure, but to my knowledge they are randomed not balanced. However, call it instinct or what have you, but Tom flipping red as an experienced player and Cad flipping red as an experienced player makes me think there's still a coach on the scum team, someone being coached as new scum (tae), and someone in the middle.
See the thing about a Vig claim is, while yes it's testable, it's a perfectly fine blue safe claim for mafia. Why? Because sure you may be required to name who you shot prior to day post, but when day post shows up and that person is dead and mafia safe claim vig can act shocked that "their kill overlapped." As long as no one counter claims you, Vig is a very easy safe claim for mafia imo.
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Cad should say flipping red as an inexperienced player.
See the thing about a Vig claim is, while yes it's testable, it's a perfectly fine blue safe claim for mafia. Why? Because sure you may be required to name who you shot prior to day post, but when day post shows up and that person is dead and mafia safe claim vig can act shocked that "their kill overlapped." As long as no one counter claims you, Vig is a very easy safe claim for mafia imo.
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Cad should say flipping red as an inexperienced player.
Kirbystarship
Senior Member
I'll show why I'm sus on you if you are still alive on D4
glow
not ur aesthetic
since when r u sus of me
Kirbystarship
Senior Member
I'm starting to get sus of you because you lead a lynch on to strongman and you still haven't died. This is reminding me of Xine when she was mafia.
Nope
