Mafia TBT Mafia-Korean War (Cancelled)

Kirbystarship said:

I think Crys is town because she is using her gut feeling, Entropy for just guessing what players could be scum. The games I have played with her she at leasts get 2or more of them right. And Miharu because of the townslip in the RQS.

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I wanted to bring some of this up.

First of all, the bolded text. Why would you feel that someone's town for just randomly guessing that someone's mafia? That doesn't really make sense to me. even if their random guesses are sometimes correct, that seemed like a very odd thing to say.

Second of all, the italicized text. it pretty much gives me the same vibe: guessing. Both of these are suspicious to me: these are not really reasons to clear people for.

I started reading Kirby's posts because several people scumread them, and coming to find this doesn't help their case. On top of that, I was already suspicious of Crys before this post for their push to kill an inactive right at the start, so to see Kirby clear them with no real rhyme or reason reeks of scum.

Currently, my pseudo-vote goes to #Vote: Kirbystarship.

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Actually, let me bold that so it's easier to read.

#Vote: Kirbystarship.

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Just remembered that all text is italicized in quotes. (facepalm) The italicized text I was referring to is the "Crys is using their gut feeling" part.

Blu Rose said:

Please explain to me how me having a chance to be Mafia makes me any more Mafia than you. Also, please explain how not having posted any substance in the forums for a while makes me suspicious. Thank you~
And I have posted. Like three times. I will grant, all of them were general thoughts posts, but please, please don't be meanies~

As for your question, random.org says that I should lynch Sataric <3

**** i have to go
i'll be back in a while

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If you could read using context you could see that in my earlier post this was the directed at blue pikachu. The post quoted Miharu and she too asked why im suspicious of bluepikachu. Maybe you could try reading a bit more before asking nonsensical questions. Anyway ur first line like seems like a slip and imo anyone has a chance of being Mafia but myself. Ciao frens.

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BluePikachu47 said:

I completely agree. I stated that my first post was just a time-waster in my last post.

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So in this post, I'm expecting you to have been caught up, however no subsequent posts were made after this too talk about other players or at least some suspicions. Also in an earlier post you say that no such points were risen. I completely agree with endless that it may be a slip, but you, bluepikachu, never acknowledged how I was suspicious you, thought he was Mafia and said he should be lynched. Bluepikachu wya???

would a jester-type role be possible in this game or no, given the voting system? because im not sure why ness would put himself out on the spot so easily, unless hes treating the voting system differently as more of a "suggestion" type thing where votes arent held against you as much as they would be normally?

Call me Daniel said:

I just woke up so I'll be reading deeper into people's posts later.

From what I'm reading, I don't think "To the town" was a slip from Miharu. I didn't find Ness saying the same thing to be a slip(keep in mind I was asleep when that while lynch thing happened), but him cracking from the people getting on him is what I found to be scummy. Miharu's reaction to her saying that was more so just puzzled how it was a slip, as opposed to her being defensive of super concerned to what she said. I don't town read her yet, I'm null from her other posts, but her reaction to the slip questioning was town to me.

Blu is still scummy. But it's weird to me how Entropy and Minties question Oak for calling him scummy but ignored when I said his posts were off before. Why ignore me ):

I literally find Tardis scummy every single game so I really have no clue what to think of him anymore
On the whole Ness thing has me torn. His 1 posts was practically fluff and agreeing that was extensively long to appear like it was substantial, but then he just left with no word. I understand being busy and all like he said before(I was busy the whole afternoon too), but the only thing he posted was useless and makes me question him.

I should have a vote on who I think should be lynched in a few hours

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If you're talking about this quote:

Call me Daniel said:

Just got home from work and read everything so far. I don't have much to comment on other than that I find Blu's posts off, but I can't put my finger on why

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I figured you were going to elaborate further on it because you hadn't really said much about the game so far. I question Oak simply because he's ignoring Entropy when she asks for more info. Why? That's scummy as hell when he posted after she asked for reasons why and addressed someone else. I'm hoping you'll post some thoughts as I'm asleep or something because you're pretty quiet.

Also Ness, where you at brother?

btw it's 2:35am here right now and day ends midday my time. I will try to be awake in time for day ending, but my currently late bedtimes are going to make that very hard.

If we consider the option of a jester role then we'll be second guessing ourselves all game. It's better to just ignore the possibility. (Especially as any jester style role in a game this large would in addition to the winner of the game, not exclusively by themselves.)

Kirbystarship said:

I think Crys is town because she is using her gut feeling, Entropy for just guessing what players could be scum. The games I have played with her she at leasts get 2or more of them right. And Miharu because of the townslip in the RQS.

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Forgot to ask, so you listed who you thought is town, but how about scum? Is there anyone else (besides Ness that you already said you found sus), that seems scummy to you? Please list why. Thanks! :3 Also I believe you forgot to answer my other question, how do you know Crys is using her gut feeling? o:

Liamslash said:

I see that as well, "I'll" does imply that, seems like a bit of a slip.
Either that or it's an honest mistake, but that does put you on my raider.

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Just going to re quote this since it seems you are ignoring my questions or just genuinely missing them lol.
"On another note, what are your thoughts on oak, minties, ness, and kirby then? o: "

Also, besides myself, is there anyone else under your radar? o: If so, could you list who and why? Thanks <:

BluePikachu47 said:

Because prior to asking the question, I hadn't checked the posts. After posting the "what had I missed" thing, I had checked the posts. It was a waste of time on my part, and it the grand scheme, it served no purpose.

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Wow that was pretty fast LOL Did you skim through everything? o: (Or I just read really slow LOL )

Tom said:

@Miharu: Derp clear is basically a way for them to go "Oh I wanted to be scum!" And they are. The way it was worded rubs me wrong entirely.

And Sat can beat me with my **** all he wants, policy Lynch Oak because their meta is hella off and late game they're a hindrance to us all.

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OHHH!!! Thank you!! <: I'll still like to know what you wanted to be this game before you got your role o: (I definitely feel like the question should have been rephrased too ahaha when players answered town, it made it seem like it said they wanted to be town but didn't get town xD Though, I knew it was just the question so I didn't think too much of it unless they worded it weirdly.

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oak said:

Anyway just to keep note, Inkling and BluePikachu haven't checked in yet, so hopefully we hear from them soon.
As for now, I've mostly skimmed over everything and I'm not going to make justified reads or anything but my thought at the moment;
Tui
Liamslash
Miharu
Shiida
Blu Rose

To the rest of town who think my scum meta is reflective of my behavior now, I thought you would have known me better.

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thoughts*

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Going to go ahead and re-quote and post my questions to this again as well. I know you said you won't be making justified reads, but please at least list some reasons for your reads. xD I understand my scum read and shiida's, but not the other three.

"I'll like to know your thoughts on your reads please and thanks! :3 What makes you town lean tui and Liam? o: Tui has only posted a total of 4 times and has only pretty much answered the RQS questions o: As for Liam, this is his first mafia game, and new players tends to be really hard to read at first, so how were you able to read him as town so fast? O:

As for me, aside from my grammar mistake, what makes you think I may be scum? o:

As Entropy already posted, I'll also like to know what makes you think Blu Rose is scum :3"

BluePikachu47 said:

Oh my gosh, I'm late!!! What did I miss?

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BluePikachu47 said:

Incorrect. I read the posts and no such points were risen.

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i find this reaction a bit strange. the change of tone from lighthearted to serious really fast stands out to me, but its nothing too big i guess.

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also, ill be tallying the votes so far like endless (i think hes the one who suggested it. or maybe sataric) said so if someone else could do it as well to confirm that i didnt miscount that would be great.

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BluePikachu47 said:

Oh my gosh, I'm late!!! What did I miss?

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oak said:

Anyway just to keep note, Inkling and BluePikachu haven't checked in yet, so hopefully we hear from them soon.
As for now, I've mostly skimmed over everything and I'm not going to make justified reads or anything but my thought at the moment;
Tui
Liamslash
Miharu
Shiida
Blu Rose

To the rest of town who think my scum meta is reflective of my behavior now, I thought you would have known me better.

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thoughts*

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i was just gonna wait for your explanation, but im just gonna ask rn to be sure, am i scumlean cuz of my response about wanting to be third party this game?

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Kirbystarship
Aronthaer
Ness

Ness
Sataric
Endless

i just searched the word "vote" in this thread so apologies if i missed something or got myself confused.

shiida said:

Kirbystarship
Aronthaer
Ness

Ness
Sataric
Endless

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I thought there was a third person for Kirby, but I could be wrong. I'll search it.

Aronthaer said:

I wanted to bring some of this up.

First of all, the bolded text. Why would you feel that someone's town for just randomly guessing that someone's mafia? That doesn't really make sense to me. even if their random guesses are sometimes correct, that seemed like a very odd thing to say.

Second of all, the italicized text. it pretty much gives me the same vibe: guessing. Both of these are suspicious to me: these are not really reasons to clear people for.

I started reading Kirby's posts because several people scumread them, and coming to find this doesn't help their case. On top of that, I was already suspicious of Crys before this post for their push to kill an inactive right at the start, so to see Kirby clear them with no real rhyme or reason reeks of scum.

Currently, my pseudo-vote goes to #Vote: Kirbystarship.

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Actually, let me bold that so it's easier to read.

#Vote: Kirbystarship.

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Just remembered that all text is italicized in quotes. (facepalm) The italicized text I was referring to is the "Crys is using their gut feeling" part.

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In the passed games Crys when she is town mostly uses her gut feeling but doesn't explain. So made me feel like she could be town. But looking at her game when she was mafia she wasn't that active and in this game she isn't that active in the RQS she said she would be active and I see her online so I think she is avoiding the thread.

Question for Crys why do you say you plan to be active but right now you are not active?

@Entropy I don't think Inkling would be on the scum team they act sus no matter what side she is on so she could be playing bad town.

I was working on su mafia actually I wasn't avoiding.

@tom,,, are you Mafia or very busy?

Crys said:

I was working on su mafia actually I wasn't avoiding.

@tom,,, are you Mafia or very busy?

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When I looked at your profile you seem to be looking at the Brewster'sCaf? a lot.

i'm being hardcore buddied by too many people, especially endless

tardis, miharu & tae are 70% town
sataric & shiida are 60% town
tui is locktown


daniel is 100% not mafia but i'm not ruling out third party. i have a harder time reading him so i can't townread him
jacob is scumlean because he did the thing where he points something out that can be construed as scummy (shiida's answer to the rqs) and then in the next sentence says "probably nothing huge tho" so he can fencesit
tom is probably going with his silent scum meta so i don't lynch him d1 again :^)
bluepikachu had a super weird reaction to what i said
minties concerns me because she is pushing for the ez lynches and i don't get why
hayden is probably 3rd party or his team is bussing him

tui said:

i'm surprised that nobody has questioned this yet. you say you hate being blue, but then say you'd like to be a doctor or a vet? forgive me if i'm wrong, but those two roles are blue roles so why say you hate them then say you'd want to play one?

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sorry I'm on mobile, but I meant to say I "hate being cop" not "I hate being blue"
but even without the typo I don't see how this would help out town regardless BC the only thing it proves is I don't like to be investigative roles.

entropy said:

i'm being hardcore buddied by too many people, especially endless

tardis, miharu & tae are 70% town
sataric & shiida are 60% town
tui is locktown


daniel is 100% not mafia but i'm not ruling out third party. i have a harder time reading him so i can't townread him
jacob is scumlean because he did the thing where he points something out that can be construed as scummy (shiida's answer to the rqs) and then in the next sentence says "probably nothing huge tho" so he can fencesit
tom is probably going with his silent scum meta so i don't lynch him d1 again :^)
bluepikachu had a super weird reaction to what i said
minties concerns me because she is pushing for the ez lynches and i don't get why
hayden is probably 3rd party or his team is bussing him

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reason for the tui town lock?

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Also Tardy are you going to explain why you believed what Minties said was forced?

sry ive missed a lot due to other stuff. ill catch up in a few mins and then post reads

Crys said:

I was working on su mafia actually I wasn't avoiding.

@tom,,, are you Mafia or very busy?

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Busy combined with the fact it doesn't really matter what I do in this game since officially I can't vote. I am adovcating for a policy lynch because of the reasons I've stated previously.

@entropy: Meta stronk

byuntae said:

sorry I'm on mobile, but I meant to say I "hate being cop" not "I hate being blue"
but even without the typo I don't see how this would help out town regardless BC the only thing it proves is I don't like to be investigative roles.

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i figured it was a typing slip but i just wanted to clear it up - and i got to gauge your reaction at the same time. is there a reason you don't like the investigative roles or is it just that you'd like to experience more different roles?

Endless said:

Oh, and tui, try to avoid using meta unless there's at least 2 - although preferably more - games backing the line of reasoning up. The only time meta is useful in a single case scenario is where someone is scumreading something they themselves did as town, in which case it's not only sufficient evidence, but it's strong evidence that they themselves aren't town.

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oh okay - i'll stay away from using that now on, however it doesn't really clear any suspicion i have of kirby as i still feel that they're deliberately trying to achieve a certain balance in their posts, that being saying enough/posting often enough so they appear to be active and not shying away from discussion, but at the same time not contributing anything of substance and trying to avoid a lot of town investigation related discussion - such as bringing up the speculation of mafia possibly having a strongman instead of joining in with everybody else who were investigating posts they found suspicious in order to help town, and since there's a lynch tonight, i would've thought that this would've been first priority.

Sataric said:

Indeed. Still, I personally think that it's much better to claim if you think it's highly likely you'll be the one that gets lynched, than to just somehow "accept the death" and then sit there afterwards and act salty when it's likely your own bad play that got you killed. Play well, prove your obvious good intentions, and you likely won't be the primary target I'd imagine. Simple enough.

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furthermore, claiming blue if you're close to being lynched, even though it puts a target on your head for mafia, the greater priority should be to prevent a mislynch happening seeing as town/the boss can only lynch a single person a day and the mafia and hostile third parties can kill many more depending on their number, we need to make the lynch count.

entropy said:

i'm being hardcore buddied by too many people, especially endless

tardis, miharu & tae are 70% town
sataric & shiida are 60% town
tui is locktown


daniel is 100% not mafia but i'm not ruling out third party. i have a harder time reading him so i can't townread him
jacob is scumlean because he did the thing where he points something out that can be construed as scummy (shiida's answer to the rqs) and then in the next sentence says "probably nothing huge tho" so he can fencesit
tom is probably going with his silent scum meta so i don't lynch him d1 again :^)
bluepikachu had a super weird reaction to what i said
minties concerns me because she is pushing for the ez lynches and i don't get why
hayden is probably 3rd party or his team is bussing him

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Don't confuse an admission that your reads are reasonable with artificial fawning designed to persuade. It's insulting.

I'd love to see what your 'not mafia' slip for Daniel is.

Miharu said:

HII ESPHAS AHHH I'M SO GLAD YOU DECIDED TO PLAY ANOTHER GAME!!!! <333 I'm so happy we get to play together again so soon AHHH <33

Anyways, on to my questions! LOL
Can you explain why you have no idea of what alignment you want to be in this game? o:

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YO MIHARU! AND YEP I WANTED TO PLAY MORE. LAST GAME WAS PRETTY FUN SO I DECIDED ID HAVE ANOTHER SHOT. IM RLY GLAD WERE IN THIS MAFIA TOGETHER ALSO <3

well, i was town and was lynched for being mafia in my last game (which was also my first game). i still didnt have a proper idea of what its like to be town since i spent my time doing what someone in mafia might do, but not quite xD so i still dont have first hand experience of either alignments ):

as for reads, i dont know ness that well so i cant really tell if 'the town' was a slip. i guess it strikes as pretty odd though. although 'the town' could be just referring to the rest of the people in it so ?\_(ツ)_/? as for everyone else nothing really stands out so everyone else is null for me

@tui: Tae not wanting to be cop is mostly a joke, since the few times they've been one they got shot by town lmao

@miharu: I really didn't come into this game with a mindset of what I wanted to be.