Mafia TBT Mafia-Korean War (Cancelled)
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Aronthaer
Back from Hiatus (3/18/22)
Did you really just try to 180 after being questioned? you literally just sussed the people you tried to defend (and tried to defend without enough proof, nonetheless).
The scum is strong with this one...
Kirbystarship
Senior Member
How was I defending the people I was sus of I said I townlean Crys but when I looked back at her games when she was mafia her meta in this game is matching up with her mafia play in games I played with her.
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
?Why
Sorry for my inactivity, I work in the afternoon(I have to leave in an hour actually) so the only time i can play is in the morning and late night. I've considered asking to be replaced, but I'll wait a bit before I can tell if I really don't have the time to play or not. Day ends like an hour before I get home so I'll be casting my vote and a few reads now.
##Vote:Blu Rose
I finally figured out what I found scummy about him. It's all just useless posts.
The TL;DR is pretty accurate. He doesn't state much of his actually opinions, say a couple of things without explaining(Ex:Not liking Ness's vote), saying a few pointless things(Liking Tom's posting and not playing with Heyden in a while when he hasn't played with any of us )
, and even saying a few completley irrelevant things(Talking about driver's ed dreams and pronouncing Shiida). All of this accumulates a really large and seemingly important post, but has barely any substance. I can't recall him making big fluffy posts like this in reindeer mafia(Only time I played with him). At this point there's a lot of things to comment on and talk about, but he really just refrains from saying anything and only posts to answer a question and joke post.
This post was when he thought he was being scumread by Crys, but his reaction is still interesting. He comes from the silence only to defend himself, shares no actual thoughts or opinions, and goes back to silence.
I think this "Post fluff and coast" play from him has gone long ignored. I know who I vote for doesn't even actually matter, so I'd like to bring up a different candidate for the king.
Minties- She told me way before the game started that she had no motivation to play, so I'm not gonna told that attitude against her. Her posts seem to have a tone of sarcasm and slight aggresiveness, which I would say is scummy, but I can just see it as her being pissed at having to play. Nulled right now.
Oak- I'm thinking he's town from when he asked:
I find this a way too risky thing to ask if he was scum. Asking a question like that is basically asking "Should we tell everyone how much money we have so scum will know?" It's just too risky to ask a scummy question like that, so I'm derp clearing.
Endless- In the beginning, I found his posts off with the whole Sataric thing. But his responses and current play is decent I guess. I can see him as either bad town or scum, but I'll be watching him to see which one he more likely is.
Ness- I gave him time to post something, but he hasn't delivered. I'm okay with his wagon tbh.
Everything I think of the game hasn't changed from my last post.
How is asking how much we make indicative of Oak being town? That's dumb reasoning.
Aronthaer
Back from Hiatus (3/18/22)
precisely. you said you trusted Crys but now you say their meta is matching up with scum. it just seems a little too convenient to me.
uwuzumakii
memento mori
I'm confused. How did I give a weird reaction? I gave a justified response to what you said. Maybe I misread what you posted or something. I do get that if you think that me agreeing with you about something against myself is weird, but I just analyzed my situation and realized that what I had done was pointless, and I don't really see how that one incident alone is any sort of proof of me being mafia.
Kirbystarship
Senior Member
Sometimes I look at things to quickly. The reason why I think Crys could be scum is how she isn't being very active and she said she was going to be active in the RQS.
I see her online but she hasn't been posting a lot. Also when she is town she mostly guesses who scum is. When she does this she starts pushing people to lynch that person. I don't see this happening.
The last time I played with her
http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?364233-Xenoblade-Chronicles-Mafia-Endgame
She bussed her partner D1
So I think
I think this is a likely buss if she does flip as mafia.
I am getting weird feelings about Daniel's posts. I'm not sure what it is but I think the reason I don't like them is because they seem fake. I don't mean to say this in a rude way Daniel but reading your last post actually made me cringe. Normally I can respect the points you make but so far in this game I can't agree with them:
Do you honestly believe Endless is being "Bad town"? If that's the case and you're actually pro-town, you would've ruled him mafia due to his confidence, knowledge, thinking and posting that he's contributing. Even if you don't agree with his Day 1 thoughts, that doesn't make him bad town. I hope I explained that ok I am a little distracted with hosting right now.
I agree with you Jacob, Daniels posts so far really suck. Like that RQS bugs me and then trying to deep clear Oak for a post that is blatantly rolefishing irritates me. Him or Oak would be a good lynch
Just can't be bothered but really most of them were just gut feelings. Tui is probably the towniest person among us bc she's been contributive and etc, I felt like Liams townslips are geniuine, Shiida and Miharu seem to be off from previous games as other people mentioned but it's easy to let them off, Blu Rose: honestly idk it was more a gut feeling than anything for sorry if that caused any mishap within the discussion and what not. Heading off to school soon so gl supreme leader king or w/e with your lynch.
As a quick history lesson, I've scumread Daniel in all but 1 game I've played with him, and he flipped mafia in that game. So I'm absolutely incapable of reading him. I feel like there's something horribly off about the way he implied I could be bad town, but, once again, I can't read him. So you're going to have to pick up my slack in that area and give me a reasonable idea of what his alignment is.
OH **** YOU CAUGHT ME
LOCK ME UP AND THROW ME IN THE SLAMMER
Not entirely understanding why some people were throwing around a Kirby suspicion.
Oh, hi! I seem to only remember an SS3 and Reindeer Mafia with you, lol. I'm a great player, I know, I know...
Please explain? I don't seem to remember this myself.
*throws hands up*
DAMN WE GOT A HOSTILE SITUATION
Sorry, Nathan got his panties in a knot and forgot that BluePikachu existed and thought you were reffing my avi. uvu
Please explain how the question was nonsensical, though. The points still stand; anyone has a chance of being Mafia, so why is this a valid point against any one person?
Tom advocating a "lynch-the-distraction" seems a bit normal for him? He seems to be fighting for it more, but his claimed inability to vote makes me wonder a little bit~
Hi CMD! I'm glad you decided to come forth with your reasoning, it's fairly fine~I finally figured out what I found scummy about him. It's all just useless posts.?Why
Sorry for my inactivity, I work in the afternoon(I have to leave in an hour actually) so the only time i can play is in the morning and late night. I've considered asking to be replaced, but I'll wait a bit before I can tell if I really don't have the time to play or not. Day ends like an hour before I get home so I'll be casting my vote and a few reads now.
##Vote:Blu Rose
The TL;DR is pretty accurate. He doesn't state much of his actually opinions, say a couple of things without explaining(Ex:Not liking Ness's vote), saying a few pointless things(Liking Tom's posting and not playing with Heyden in a while when he hasn't played with any of us )
At this point there's a lot of things to comment on and talk about, but he really just refrains from saying anything and only posts to answer a question and joke post.
This post was when he thought he was being scumread by Crys, but his reaction is still interesting. He comes from the silence only to defend himself, shares no actual thoughts or opinions, and goes back to silence.
I think this "Post fluff and coast" play from him has gone long ignored. I know who I vote for doesn't even actually matter, so I'd like to bring up a different candidate for the king.
Minties- She told me way before the game started that she had no motivation to play, so I'm not gonna told that attitude against her. Her posts seem to have a tone of sarcasm and slight aggresiveness, which I would say is scummy, but I can just see it as her being pissed at having to play. Nulled right now.
Oak- I'm thinking he's town from when he asked:
I find this a way too risky thing to ask if he was scum. Asking a question like that is basically asking "Should we tell everyone how much money we have so scum will know?" It's just too risky to ask a scummy question like that, so I'm derp clearing.
Endless- In the beginning, I found his posts off with the whole Sataric thing. But his responses and current play is decent I guess. I can see him as either bad town or scum, but I'll be watching him to see which one he more likely is.
Ness- I gave him time to post something, but he hasn't delivered. I'm okay with his wagon tbh.
Everything I think of the game hasn't changed from my last post.
So, lemme give you a quick recap from my past few days:
Sleep until like 8:30. Get up and go to Driver's Ed from 9:00-11:00. Drive after that from 11:00-1:00. Babysit from 1:00-3:00. Get kicked outside from 3:00-5:00. Come inside and eat dinner. Then, and only then, there has appeared a window from like 6:00-9:00 where I can actually post. This "fluff post" does actually contain my thoughts and opinions and explaining a few things to people who asked things. The post wasn't a case or anything important; it was me missing 5 quintillion posts and the responding. We'll even go back through my post, just for you:
Explaining the situation behind my post.
Asking a question.
Answering the RQS things.
A thought! I never thought I would see it solely based off of CMD saying that I wasn't sharing any. I said that it struck me funnily. I'll go back and read through that when I get a chance. Better yet, I'll do it after this post.
Making a comment. I will grant that I haven't played with anyone in a while...
More thoughts on Sat's plan and on something Endless said.
Answering more Random Questions.
More comments.
Wow, another thought! Hard to believe.
Explaining what I believe to have been true about something another person said.
Joking TL;DR.
Your point on Ness is objective and I can thus say I agree with it.
Not sure what to feel about your reveal here. I'll read more extensively later...
Mi hermano is having a birthday party. In case I don't come back for a while, I'm going to say ##VOTE: Call me Daniel.
Oh, and I've largely been using a 2DS to browse the forums lately. That is from where the joke post comes as well as the "post from the shadows to defend myself."
im sorry that I have a life outside stalking a Mafia thread every minute. I've been at the doctors and I just got a new cast on my leg.
Two, in a game like this me giving out scum teams is different as I don't really have a vote. When I gave out scumteams in previous games it was to sway people's votes. But know, considering it basically up to the Kings Judgment for the votes, me telling who I think the scum team is wouldn't be helping town,,, but ya I'll be active in he later phases as I won't be dealing with certain things in my life.
i screwed up again and had a long afternoon nap followed by an evening coffee, so even though it's in my best interests to since i have school tomorrow, i'm not going to be sleeping for a fair bit so i thought i'd put together a few thoughts and my initial reads on people before the first day is over. this list is in the order of the list in the OP, in case anybody was wondering since it was brought up in the last game i played. also i'm just going to use them pronouns for everybody since i don't want to get in a mess but if anybody specifically wants me to refer to them with other pronouns please say
ashtot - only has made one post, and they haven't answered the RQS yet, and i'd definitely be interested in seeing them answer the latter (daniel's set of questions iirc. i think even the least active players here managed to answer the RQS in their first or second posts, so it seems odd that they haven't) . i'd also like to here why they blindly trusted entropy's judgement - something i addressed here, as i'm confused as to why in a mafia game you'd trust anybody's judgement unless it's their intention just to sheep to make it appear like they're trying to contribute to pro-town discussion. so a slight scum lean until i've heard a satisfactory defense or until i've seen more activity that suggests otherwise.
byuntae - also hasn't posted much but has answered both sets of questions and despite the typo which they've explained their answers to daniel's set of question in particular struck me as very open and honest. i'm very interested in seeing what their reads are when they're less busy and hear a bit more from them in general, but at the moment i'm inclined to give them a slight town lean
crys - i find their posts odd at times, in particular this one:
the first part was responding to miharu who asked why they were suspicious of blue pikachu (being that their original reasoning was just 'there is a chance he could be mafia') and their second response here is nearly as basic and really just points out the obvious. and the last half of this post seems to be fishing for people to pin lynches on which is a pretty scummy thing to do especially only 24 hours after the game has started and people are only just starting to get a feel for eachother's gameplay.
however, i'm inclined towards a (non hostile) third party lean for them rather than a scum lean, mainly because in one of their next posts, #382, they pursue a couple of lines of questioning which is obviously pro-town and what i feel to be inconsistent with their previous posts that i mentioned above. this somewhat ambivalent alignment implies to me that they're non hostile third party since it doesn't really matter which side wins to them.
daniel - i'm a town lean for them now. they're bringing new suspicious candidates to the table which indicates a very proactive approach in helping town, and i found their set of RQS being a lot more helpful and on topic than the originals. i'm not one for giving people full town leans this early on in the game as i don't want to cloud my own line of vision but i currently feel quite a strong town lean for them.
miharu - town lean. having played with them before where they were a very strong town player they appear to be starting this game off in the same way (and i know endless has mentioned that i shouldn't base my reads off meta from one game but since miharu is pretty new to mafia it's not like they've played a large handful of games for me to spot inconsistencies in their behaviour between, and so far their town play has been very consistent both activity and content-wise). i know there's been speculation over the grammar slip in their RQS but i see this as a genuine grammar mistake due to language barriers and they initially weren't aware of the mistake and had to have it pinpointed out to them when they were called out on it, hence i have no suspicion over them.
oak - null for now as i haven't seen enough content from them and since i haven't played with them before i cannot spot any inconsistencies in their meta that point at them being mafia. i'll look for the results of the questions they've been asked by those who are familiar with their playstyle and probably make my mind up from there, but as they currently lie unanswered i can't come to a conclusion yet.
kirby - i've already mentioned multiple times why i'm suspicious of kirby - posts #371, #372 and #397. also isn't it pretty funny how their posts suddenly got longer when they fell into hot water with aronthaer over their conflicting views on crys? too many red flags for me, hence the strong scum lean.
blue pikachu - their posts just give the impression that they really just don't want to play. so far they haven't answered any RQS or even contributed to any discussion other than their own defense - i know it's early on in the game, but surely they must have some thoughts about people to contribute. they've also been pretty inactive without stating any excuse for being, and i find their response to entropy to be too thought out and just all round odd for what was really just a reaction test. so until i see more from you, i'm giving you a slight scumlean for these reasons.
tui - that's me
inkling - i can't really say anything being that you have made no posts since the game has started so i'm guessing you'll probably be replaced
aronthaer - slight town lean. none of their posts so far have struck me as being suspicious and they seemed to be honest and open in their RQS, i'd like to hear a bit more from them in order to consolidate my thoughts though.
blu rose - as daniel pointed out their posts are mainly just irrelevant filler and this comes off to me as if they're very uncomfortable about something, and i feel like this is what caused them to jump to defend themselves to crys even though crys hadn't aimed any comment at them, but at blue pikachu instead, and panic in being revealed could've caused that slip. i want to see if they have anything to say for themselves, but for now i'm keeping a close eye on their posts and am giving them a scum read.
minties - i was previously suspicious about their answers to their RQS but this was cleared up by minties and i misinterpreted them slightly in the first place. they seem to be very unforgiving and confident in getting information from people which gives off a strong pro-town vibe, so i'm town leaning them currently.
jacob - there isn't a lot to go off from their posts yet since they haven't been that active (with a solid excuse) but they seem to be making an effort in questioning any suspicions they have. a small town lean for them now and i'd like to see more from them.
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i'm going to have to stop there since i'm actually knackered and i've been reading and typing for nearly two hours. i have school all day tomorrow but i'll try my best to answer any questions or queries people have over these reads before i leave in the morning (no promises though since i don't know how much of the thread i'll have to catch up with before i answer anything) then i'll finish off the rest of the list tomorrow night. i won't be around towards the end of the day (it's 4am my time lmao) and since i haven't looked at everybody's posts in detail yet i don't feel confident in a decision to purple vote one person in particular, and since i don't want to cause a mislynch i'm going to hold off doing that today.
ashtot - only has made one post, and they haven't answered the RQS yet, and i'd definitely be interested in seeing them answer the latter (daniel's set of questions iirc. i think even the least active players here managed to answer the RQS in their first or second posts, so it seems odd that they haven't) . i'd also like to here why they blindly trusted entropy's judgement - something i addressed here, as i'm confused as to why in a mafia game you'd trust anybody's judgement unless it's their intention just to sheep to make it appear like they're trying to contribute to pro-town discussion. so a slight scum lean until i've heard a satisfactory defense or until i've seen more activity that suggests otherwise.
byuntae - also hasn't posted much but has answered both sets of questions and despite the typo which they've explained their answers to daniel's set of question in particular struck me as very open and honest. i'm very interested in seeing what their reads are when they're less busy and hear a bit more from them in general, but at the moment i'm inclined to give them a slight town lean
crys - i find their posts odd at times, in particular this one:
the first part was responding to miharu who asked why they were suspicious of blue pikachu (being that their original reasoning was just 'there is a chance he could be mafia') and their second response here is nearly as basic and really just points out the obvious. and the last half of this post seems to be fishing for people to pin lynches on which is a pretty scummy thing to do especially only 24 hours after the game has started and people are only just starting to get a feel for eachother's gameplay.
however, i'm inclined towards a (non hostile) third party lean for them rather than a scum lean, mainly because in one of their next posts, #382, they pursue a couple of lines of questioning which is obviously pro-town and what i feel to be inconsistent with their previous posts that i mentioned above. this somewhat ambivalent alignment implies to me that they're non hostile third party since it doesn't really matter which side wins to them.
daniel - i'm a town lean for them now. they're bringing new suspicious candidates to the table which indicates a very proactive approach in helping town, and i found their set of RQS being a lot more helpful and on topic than the originals. i'm not one for giving people full town leans this early on in the game as i don't want to cloud my own line of vision but i currently feel quite a strong town lean for them.
miharu - town lean. having played with them before where they were a very strong town player they appear to be starting this game off in the same way (and i know endless has mentioned that i shouldn't base my reads off meta from one game but since miharu is pretty new to mafia it's not like they've played a large handful of games for me to spot inconsistencies in their behaviour between, and so far their town play has been very consistent both activity and content-wise). i know there's been speculation over the grammar slip in their RQS but i see this as a genuine grammar mistake due to language barriers and they initially weren't aware of the mistake and had to have it pinpointed out to them when they were called out on it, hence i have no suspicion over them.
oak - null for now as i haven't seen enough content from them and since i haven't played with them before i cannot spot any inconsistencies in their meta that point at them being mafia. i'll look for the results of the questions they've been asked by those who are familiar with their playstyle and probably make my mind up from there, but as they currently lie unanswered i can't come to a conclusion yet.
kirby - i've already mentioned multiple times why i'm suspicious of kirby - posts #371, #372 and #397. also isn't it pretty funny how their posts suddenly got longer when they fell into hot water with aronthaer over their conflicting views on crys? too many red flags for me, hence the strong scum lean.
blue pikachu - their posts just give the impression that they really just don't want to play. so far they haven't answered any RQS or even contributed to any discussion other than their own defense - i know it's early on in the game, but surely they must have some thoughts about people to contribute. they've also been pretty inactive without stating any excuse for being, and i find their response to entropy to be too thought out and just all round odd for what was really just a reaction test. so until i see more from you, i'm giving you a slight scumlean for these reasons.
tui - that's me
inkling - i can't really say anything being that you have made no posts since the game has started so i'm guessing you'll probably be replaced
aronthaer - slight town lean. none of their posts so far have struck me as being suspicious and they seemed to be honest and open in their RQS, i'd like to hear a bit more from them in order to consolidate my thoughts though.
blu rose - as daniel pointed out their posts are mainly just irrelevant filler and this comes off to me as if they're very uncomfortable about something, and i feel like this is what caused them to jump to defend themselves to crys even though crys hadn't aimed any comment at them, but at blue pikachu instead, and panic in being revealed could've caused that slip. i want to see if they have anything to say for themselves, but for now i'm keeping a close eye on their posts and am giving them a scum read.
minties - i was previously suspicious about their answers to their RQS but this was cleared up by minties and i misinterpreted them slightly in the first place. they seem to be very unforgiving and confident in getting information from people which gives off a strong pro-town vibe, so i'm town leaning them currently.
jacob - there isn't a lot to go off from their posts yet since they haven't been that active (with a solid excuse) but they seem to be making an effort in questioning any suspicions they have. a small town lean for them now and i'd like to see more from them.
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i'm going to have to stop there since i'm actually knackered and i've been reading and typing for nearly two hours. i have school all day tomorrow but i'll try my best to answer any questions or queries people have over these reads before i leave in the morning (no promises though since i don't know how much of the thread i'll have to catch up with before i answer anything) then i'll finish off the rest of the list tomorrow night. i won't be around towards the end of the day (it's 4am my time lmao) and since i haven't looked at everybody's posts in detail yet i don't feel confident in a decision to purple vote one person in particular, and since i don't want to cause a mislynch i'm going to hold off doing that today.
im sorry that I have a life outside stalking a Mafia thread every minute. I've been at the doctors and I just got a new cast on my leg.
Two, in a game like this me giving out scum teams is different as I don't really have a vote. When I gave out scumteams in previous games it was to sway people's votes. But know, considering it basically up to the Kings Judgment for the votes, me telling who I think the scum team is wouldn't be helping town,,, but ya I'll be active in he later phases as I won't be dealing with certain things in my life.
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@tui I asked that so people could answer and then take responsibility for it, instead of sitting on he fence.
the past 2 games ive been involved in were games in which tardis is scum. and i dont see him acting all too different in this game, which is something to note. however, i dont remember how he acts as town either, so im assuming someone knows his meta better will be able to understand more.
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someone who knows*
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someone who knows*
AYEEE I'M SO GLAD YOU HAD FUN!!! OMG I'M HAPPY TO HEAR THAT <3333 AND YESSS SAME HERE AHHH!!!
Ohhh that's definitely true!! Thank you so much for answering <3 (Also sorry for lynching you :'D I STILL FEEL HELLA BAD OTL )
Ahhh the "the town" slip thingy was actually in reference for one of his past games. He didn't say that this game. XD Pretty much what happened was my wording in my RQS of what alignment I wanted to be gave off a scummy feeling (which is completely understandable LOL ) so people were questioning me and thought I slipped and was referring to me being a different role than town XD And then Minties was asking why I was pretty much off the hook for my grammar slip, yet Ness wasn't during 2 other different games that he got lynched for because of his grammar hahaha
Ohh okay!! Thank you so much for explaining/answering <:
So do you now scum lean/town lean/ or read Crys as null? lol xD It seems like you are hopping around with your reads when you were questioned about your town lean read on Crys xD Also could you please answer my questions in this post? :3
http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...ar-(Day-One)&p=6664087&viewfull=1#post6664087
And how's that Minties's case coming along? o:
It's definitely true that Tui is the towniest player right now and she's doing REALLY REALLY well and is playing like she did in the last game I was with her, however, during the time you posted your town read on tui, she had only posted 4 times which mainly consisted of her answers to the RQS questions or letting us know that she may not be active since she was with her bf. Between those 4 posts, exactly what line(s)/posts made you decide to town lean her so fast?
Also, this is my first time hearing that my game was off o: I don't recall anyone saying that xD May I ask how exactly is my game off compared to my last two games? o:
It's 9 am and I haven't slept. Yes, I'm aware this was a terrible life decision. My brain is completely incapable of solving simplistic maths in this state and I therefore have no idea when the day is ending. If the day ends before I have access again, it's super important that the king lynches within people with at least a reasonable amount of suspicion on them. (Right now, if I recall correctly, Kirby, Ness, Blu Rose, and Oak. I might've missed one, but you get the general drift of what I'm saying.)
If the king chooses to wildcard the mafia get a huge advantage in figuring them out.
Basically what I'm saying is that I don't want to wake up to, for example, minties having been lynched and having flipped blue, or Sataric having been lynched and flipping green. (Before someone misconstrues this line, I don't have a solid read on either of them. The point was made that king wildcarded <strong player> who flipped <town> is the undesired outcome.)
Even in the best case scenario where the king wildcards and hits a mafia, they still give mafia a huge amount of info that lets them figure the king out. Which is still disadvantageous.
That might not have made much sense since I'm practically sleep deprived at this point, but I'm reasonably certain I got the general gist of it across.
Blu Rose case has reasonable backing, it's a kinda attempting-to-look-like-you're-contributing-without-really-contributing kind of set, but I just feel like that case would be something I'd pursue if there weren't so many more interesting cases lying around.
I don't really have an opinion on the kirby fiasco. Feels like a player I'd have to read over their games and learn their playstyle to get a definitive read. They're not behaving like a rational human being, regardless of alignment.
My opinion on Ness and Oak have been made fairly clear. That being said, I'm tempted to say that if Ness doesn't post before deadline, there's no reason to lynch him. He could be genuinely unable to post, and oak is a good alternate lynch with little chance at redemption.
If the king chooses to wildcard the mafia get a huge advantage in figuring them out.
Basically what I'm saying is that I don't want to wake up to, for example, minties having been lynched and having flipped blue, or Sataric having been lynched and flipping green. (Before someone misconstrues this line, I don't have a solid read on either of them. The point was made that king wildcarded <strong player> who flipped <town> is the undesired outcome.)
Even in the best case scenario where the king wildcards and hits a mafia, they still give mafia a huge amount of info that lets them figure the king out. Which is still disadvantageous.
That might not have made much sense since I'm practically sleep deprived at this point, but I'm reasonably certain I got the general gist of it across.
Blu Rose case has reasonable backing, it's a kinda attempting-to-look-like-you're-contributing-without-really-contributing kind of set, but I just feel like that case would be something I'd pursue if there weren't so many more interesting cases lying around.
I don't really have an opinion on the kirby fiasco. Feels like a player I'd have to read over their games and learn their playstyle to get a definitive read. They're not behaving like a rational human being, regardless of alignment.
My opinion on Ness and Oak have been made fairly clear. That being said, I'm tempted to say that if Ness doesn't post before deadline, there's no reason to lynch him. He could be genuinely unable to post, and oak is a good alternate lynch with little chance at redemption.
