Good morning! I just woke up and on my way to work. I fell asleep while writing my reads last night after I got home so I'll post them later when I'm on my computer at work. Chrys you are right to be sus of me for not being around much on here but between pming people on discord and working, I have a little bit less time to focus on the thread. Like you, this is my first PM game too so I'm sorry for taking the thread for granted/not knowing how to balance my activity. I'll be more active here today onwards and be more helpful.
Also on Day 1 it was weekend for me, and I already posted on the thread multiple times that I was on a family day trip which I can gladly offer you pictures of if you want. If you're town then it's good that you're picking up on all these details, but if you're maf then it's a great way to shift the attention off you. I hope not.
After Mog being killed last night, I believe that there's scum between Panda and Karla, I'm adamant that there is. and I'm definitely leaning towards Panda. I'm pretty set on voting Panda today, but I'll lay off and wait until a little later before deciding. There's likely 3 mafia and 1(or two?) third party? we need to work hard today, we can't really risk lynching town again.
*Panda* - I want to start off by mentioning this:
The way Panda brought up the whole "I would have died for crys!" thing (on more than one occasion, may I add) when she was being questioned seems very weird to me, it just seems like she wants people to think exactly what Dolby thinks. I mean, people were already being suspicious of her a little, she had to do something to advert the negative attention, and make her undoubtedly town, and "sacrificing" herself for crys is the best way to do that. I'd been thinking it, but Liam pointed out the fact that Panda said what she said to crys before she'd had many votes, so even if crys had changed her vote to Panda, she knew she'd be safe.
**There's something else about this whole thing that's off to me, Panda said this on Discord last night: "Panda - Today at 3:06 AM
She had two and I had two so I told her to change"
However, after going back and looking at the votes, Panda and crys never each had two votes at one time? Just before Mog, Seroja and I voted Panda the votes were as follows; Crys-5, Panda-2, so Panda, when exactly did you tell/ask crys to change her vote, and when were you two each on two votes? I mean, I may have miscounted, but i doubt it. Panda knew that telling crys to vote her wouldn't make and difference to the lynch at all, all she knew it would do is make her look good, which it does, clearly, based on the fact Dolby thinks that makes Panda town.
I'd like to ask you something again, Panda. I mentioned this to you in the Discord, but your answer made no sense at all. If you were so willing to die to save crys, then why did you get so angry/defensive when you thought you were going to be lynched at the end? I'd like to bring this up again and ask for further explanation, I don't by the whole "being lynched over chrys" thing, chrys wasn't really in it at this point, it was you and crys. If you were town willing to save the doc, why on earth were you so angry? surely that's what you wanted? (personally I don't think it was, you wanted to look good/town but stay safe, that's all). Just saying I don't buy it, any of it, at all.
I've only properly addressed the crys lynch thing, but that's not it all, I mean, just what on earth is going on between Panda and Chrys? and telling Liam to basically keep his mouth shut instead of answering his questions? Honestly what on earth. It's weird. I'll just leave it here for the time being though.
@Fleshy wish people were already sus of me at the time when i told Crys to vote for me so you think as mafia i would risk being lynched by telling her to vote for me ? when it in mafias best interest to keep their KP up so they can get rid as many of us as possible ? no its not a smart move for mafia, and you are correct i also went back and counted the votes at the time i told Crys to vote me and i was wrong but the reason i was wrong was cause i had been out shopping and i was checking the voting thread all i was going off of was Crys talking to me and i apologize for that. and the reason why i don't so angry about at the end of D1 was not cause i thought i was gonna die it was cause of the way it was done, seriously literally 3-4 of you voted for me with the last few minutes, thats pretty ****ty to see.... and in the ideal situation no its not what i want i didnt want to die i wanted Chrystina to be lynched yes if it were between only Crys and I then fine ill take the lynch but we (Crys and I) were working for and hoping for a Chrystina lynch. and as far as me telling Liam to keep his mouth shut he was just trolling or it seemed so to me and was just creating confusion.
So Mog deleted her messages after she was killed? I don't understand why she'd do that, remove everything she said just so you couldn't read back on it, she's not in the game anymore, so why would you reading back on her matter to her all all? Being angry makes more sense to me, being angry that she trusted you, and look where that got her?
Did Mog actually say to you that she was going to shoot Chrys, or were you just 'advising' her to do so? I mean, when she was speaking to me, she was never set on killing Chrys, not at all. She was always (based on what she said to me) leaning towards Kirby, based on things he'd said to her and his messed up, confusing, jester claim. I can't speak on behalf of Panda or anyone else (as I don't know what they said) but I for one didn't convince her to shoot Kirby. She said she was going to, and I said that's what I would have done if I were vig (as I also would have shot him then, I mean, what was that all about, purposefully messing with town?).
Are you saying that Mog done all this on purpose, just to make you look bad? Honestly I don't get that, I think she genuinely trusted you, if you look bad, that's not Mog's doing.
@Karla if you are on discord how come you don't wanna be in our group chat and help us figure all this out ? or so you prefer to be in the shadows ?
@Fleshy same, Mog never seemed set on shooting Chrystina, she was leaning towards Kirby the most especially after his "im jester" disaster. as far as how i advised her i told her that Kirby was probably the safest bet cause his claim as jester seriously made no sense and thats also what i would have done.
i don't think Mog did anything on purpose to frame Karla i just this the evidence points to him, and how do we even know she deleted her messages ?
so when i woke up this morning, she had deleted everything on her side of our private discord chat. im hoping it was because she wanted to remove anything that i could read back on, rather than because shes angry at me. she gave me the impression last night that she was discussing who to shoot with tom. however, it's also possible she was talking about tom publicly discussing it in the discord mafia chat. i didnt know that she told u and panda but i assumed she would tell someone because she definitely didnt trust me. i was fine with that because i was certain she would shoot chrys or hold her shot (that was my advice to her) and her shooting chrys would exonerate me. instead, you, panda or someone else convinced her to shoot kirby and now that makes me look very bad.
i still dont know why she roleclaimed vig to me in the first place tbh, maybe it was to cause this exact situation to occur and bait me out, except she trusted the wrong people with her "will"
@Karla please explain the bolded text, why would she want to bait you out ? and why is trusting me with her final wish (making sure you get lynched) is bad?
@Karla if you are on discord how come you don't wanna be in our group chat and help us figure all this out ? or so you prefer to be in the shadows ?
@Fleshy same, Mog never seemed set on shooting Chrystina, she was leaning towards Kirby the most especially after his "im jester" disaster. as far as how i advised her i told her that Kirby was probably the safest bet cause his claim as jester seriously made no sense and thats also what i would have done.
i don't think Mog did anything on purpose to frame Karla i just this the evidence points to him, and how do we even know she deleted her messages ?
@Karla please explain the bolded text, why would she want to bait you out ? and why is trusting me with her final wish (making sure you get lynched) is bad?
i've no interest in being in a mafia discord chat and i'm not about to start now. like i said before, i hate the idea that a PM game means that the game has basically shifted from thread to discord. why not just run an irc/discord mafia game instead.
mog was always suspicious of me and kept trying to catch me out during our chats. i believe she came out to me a) to find out who i wanted her to shoot b) to see if she would die after roleclaiming to me
the problem with that is, she didnt shoot who i wanted her to shoot, and put her trust in you. who gave her the nudge she needed to shoot kirby.
i've no interest in being in a mafia discord chat and i'm not about to start now. like i said before, i hate the idea that a PM game means that the game has basically shifted from thread to discord. why not just run an irc/discord mafia game instead.
mog was always suspicious of me and kept trying to catch me out during our chats. i believe she came out to me a) to find out who i wanted her to shoot b) to see if she would die after roleclaiming to me
the problem with that is, she didnt shoot who i wanted her to shoot, and put her trust in you. who gave her the nudge she needed to shoot kirby.
@Karla how do we even know that's what you told her to do ? You conveniently don't have the messages anymore right ? Also I never nudged her to do anything I told her it was her choice to make, she I told her Kirby was probably the safest bet if she was going to choose to use her shot but so did Fleshy and so did Tom so... I don't know why you are trying to make me take the fall for Kirbys death if anyone is to blame it's Kirby for pulling that bs in the first place how were we supposed to react to what he did ?
Her shoot doesn't have to be in vain, we were most likely gonna hang Kirby for confusing the heck out of us by claiming Jester then not claiming Jester so now that she shoot him and his role is confirmed we are free to try to not get a mislynch today.
@Fleshy wish people were already sus of me at the time when i told Crys to vote for me so you think as mafia i would risk being lynched by telling her to vote for me ? when it in mafias best interest to keep their KP up so they can get rid as many of us as possible ?
To me it didn't seem like you were willing to be lynched, it seemed like you done that to be read as 100% town, which worked on some people. (Dolby and maybe others) You didn't die and honestly I think you know that's how it would have panned out. If not and you genuinely are town who tried to save our doc, then good! but I'm super suspicious of you and Karla at the minute.
and the reason why i don't so angry about at the end of D1 was not cause i thought i was gonna die it was cause of the way it was done, seriously literally 3-4 of you voted for me with the last few minutes, thats pretty ****ty to see.... and in the ideal situation no its not what i want i didnt want to die i wanted Chrystina to be lynched yes if it were between only Crys and I then fine ill take the lynch but we (Crys and I) were working for and hoping for a Chrystina lynch. and as far as me telling Liam to keep his mouth shut he was just trolling or it seemed so to me and was just creating confusion.
Hmm okay.. I guess that makes sense then. Your reaction just seemed slightly odd for someone that wanted to be lynched, but I guess what you're saying is that what you really wanted was for Chrys to be lynched, saying for crys to lynch you was just a back up, but not really what you wanted to happen? It's still a little confusing but yeah, thanks for clearing it up anyway.
mog was always suspicious of me and kept trying to catch me out during our chats. i believe she came out to me a) to find out who i wanted her to shoot b) to see if she would die after roleclaiming to me
the problem with that is, she didnt shoot who i wanted her to shoot, and put her trust in you. who gave her the nudge she needed to shoot kirby.
Again I don't really think that's the reason, it just doesn't make sense why she'd roleclaim to you if she was so suspicious of you? Did you ask her to? Were you interrogating her? I guess if she had suspisions of you she'd want to know who you'd shoot, but she could have asked it in a way without outing herself, if she were so inclined that you could be mafia.
About the Kirby thing, I've said this all already, but she shot Kirby from her own free-will, I for one never nudged her (despite saying that's what I would have done too). She went with what she wanted, and honesty If you'd seen how Kirby was acting, especially on Discord, well it makes sense. The only other thing about her kill that she mentioned to me is the fact that Tom said (in the mafia Discord) that vig killing Kirby would be a waste, that was making her second guess her choice. She must have genuinely trusted you, otherwise why would she have roleclaimed to you? that would have been a really bad move tbh, (unless you were pushing her to do so) she quickly must have realised that she'd made a mistake in trusting you, and what would have made her think so? You must have said something.
This whole thing is weird and extremely convenient to you, I mean the deleted messages and everything? Now you've got no proof of what Mog said to show us. She must have really, really, believed that you're the one that shot her for her to delete your messaged like that, I mean, mines are all still there? otherwise she didn't delete any messages and you're just lying? Either way though, it doesn't make you look good or innocent, at all.
Can I ask you, Panda, when did Mog roleclaim to you and what did she say? Did she ever speak about Karla or I (since she roleclaimed to us) in your conversation with her? Same question to you Karla, when exactly did Mog roleclaim to you? and did she ever mention me or Panda? (I know you say she deleted her messages, but you'll still have your response there as an indicator of time and suchlike).
@Karla please explain the bolded text, why would she want to bait you out ? and why is trusting me with her final wish (making sure you get lynched) is bad?
mm tom's right, u shud shoot chrys so we have something new to talk about tomorrow
ok
?
u mean
like how uo copy and paste to me?
do i?
u dont seem to want to shoot chrys
even tho it frees us to lynch someone else tomorrow
then panda is mafia
im going to bed kiddo
i s2g if u shoot me
well if u do i guess it'll rank up there among the worst night 1 vig shots
i cut bits out cuz they were non-mafia related conversations. i should remind you of how easily this stuff is faked, but you asked for chatlogs so im giving them to you.
fleshy: i didnt push her at all, in fact i always tried to avoid discussing mafia with her. we talk a lot on discord, and the fact that this game was a PM game made me uncomfortable as i had to draw a line in our conversations between game and everything else. thats probably why she was suspicious of me, because i was being evasive. everyone knows that it's easy to have trouble keeping animosity to within a game, it's easy to take things personally.
it was only when she showed me the snippet from discord where chrys makes the slip that mafia have safeclaims, that i became actively interested. i told mog to post it immediately, and her hesitancy to post it made me suspicious of her. i thought she had inadvertently given away her scumbuddy chrys by showing me that, and i let her know that. but i didnt push her to roleclaim to me, it just came out all of a sudden after that. my motivations of getting chrys lynched/killed have been consistent throughout because i am certain they're mafia
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ok my chatlogs didnt paste completely, heres the bit that came before what i pasted above
like what do u mean
like she was always intending to vote for panda?
i see
why did it worry u
so ur telling me
u were worried that the person u voted for
would actually be lynched?
u kno how scummy that sounds lol???
right
who did
u placed ur vote for panda
lik e2 hours
after crys claimed =====mog pastes the stuff from discord that incriminates chrys here=====
what
why would anyone think that, this is ********
wait a minute
mafia has safe claims?
how does she know that
she ****ed up
thats a slip
u need to post that log
right now
?
who
i cant believe none of them noticed
no
as in
i dont know
if u dont post that
i will
no
just put it out
and pressure
mog
dont let me down now
so?
think about it
how does chrys know mafia have safe claims?
ok, whats ur role name
just the name
im william stone
theres no theme
like it's murder mystery
u can have any name
theres no reason then to assume that mafia have safeclaims
unless
for some reason they do
and only mafia would know that
ur asking her, arent u
giving her time to formulate a response
why are u stalling moggykins
did u just give ur buddy up
and urself?
nobody cares about jester
hopefully a vig shoots him
so he doesnt have to get lynched
he wins if he gets l ynched
if he's really jester
jester's ********
im gonna flamet he hosts if theres really a ejster
look, are u gonna post?
cuz i will ===Here Mog claims that she copy and pasted it "wrong"===
how can u
copy it wrong
lol ur full of ****
ye i did
i dont trust u at all ===Here she says she was jokign about the copying and pasting wrong===
lol bs
u showed me that without realising the implications for chrys
u should have been excited to see that slip
exactly
exactly
so
if ur town, u should be excited
if ut mafia, ur like 'oh ****'
and u were definitely giving me the 'oh ****' vibes
Thanks for posting, yeah I know it can be faked and changed super easily, but it's still good to get an idea of what was being said at least, especially when things seem rather jumbled and confusing. What time did that start/finish, when did she tell you she was vig?
Alright I was supposed to post this in the morning but work got in the way. Anyhow, here's my least to most sus list which I wrote before falling asleep last night. Bear in mind I made this list solely on what is on the thread itself (all pm conversations shared in it included) and my own PM conversations with some players. I do not keep up with the Murder Mystery Mafia discord channel because I simply have no time to keep camping there.
Here we go: Fleshy- Out of everyone here, I am most confident that Fleshy is town. Everything he's posted both in thread and on discord are transparent and helpful to town i.e. questioning things that he's sus of and putting in his two cents where it mattered.
[COLOR="#000FF00"]Liam[/COLOR]- Liam is, well although I think he's been very quiet this game but I trust my guts and I feel Liam is most likely town. I think he's playing like he did at the end of A Game of Mafia game. Although I wish he'd be more active here because although he's annoying he can be quite helpful.
Byngo- I like Byngo's posts because they are to the point and sensible. Nothing seems scummy about her so far so I have her on half null half town.
Ness - Based on what I see on Ness' posts, he came off as genuinely trying to help town. Although I feel like he was rather quick to get sus of people, he did back them up with proper quotes and reasons. I am inclined to think he's town.
Cory - Cory is hard to read because his posts are too short. Him trying to save Crys could be him trying to make him appear strong town after she flip blue but nah I don't think so. Him pming Chrys to change her vote makes me have him on a slight town lean, but mostly null.
Also Cory, I'm still waiting for that explanation to your list.
Dolby - I'd like to town read Dolby, I really do but I'm very scared of him being mafia the most . Also him not voting Day 1 raised my sus by a lot. He did explain he got the timing mixed up but, I'm still wary. I'm having him on null/slight scum lean for now.
Panda - I don't know what to think of her. She seemed sincere enough in our pm convos but that could easily be an act to gain an ally. I'm not certain that you're not the one killing mog with the info you got from her cos she told you about 1-2 hours before night ends. Slight scum lean, to be safe.
Chrystina - I didn't vote her D1 because I thought mafia wouldn't be aggressively scum hunting like she did. But I have thought this way in my previous two games and both times they turned out to be scum. 1st was mog in Steven Universe mafia, and 2nd was Shiida in Double Cop mafia so maybe I shouldn't write her off just based on her scumhunting efforts.
the kills SUCK, i'm assuming mogs used her shot on tardis ??
but what I get from these kills even more, is that I'm more confident Panda is actually scum now.
mainly because I was an IDIOT and shared a PM toads sent me to her, and basically told her that I trust toads and the Pm had said he trusted me. kill him off, smart move Panda.
Seems a bit like a set up? What would the motive behind killing toad be if she knows he trusted you? From Crys to Panda seems like you threw in random evidence to paint someone as scum. Really either Panda or Chrys is scum.
Karla- Although mog revealed her roles to 3 people, the other two I'm not sus of as much as I do you him. Also the whole deleted conversation thing is a bit shady... Probably will vote for Karla today, unless I'm convinced someone else is scummier than him.
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Tom - I don't trust Tom's loyalty but I'll put up with it as long as he doesn't make another harmful decision like lynching an outed blue role or siding with mafia. Anyway lynching him is a waste of a day plus we need his vote.
Also I find it weird that Chrys pointed me out for inactivity when Liam was even more absent than me. Since I know I'm town, to me this just makes it like you're trying to divert the attention elsewhere.
Anyway that was what I wrote. Any recent development will be commented on later and the list will probably change depending.
Do you have time to post quick reads (if they've changed from when you first wrote them, or send in your vote) before you go or something? Will you still be on Discord?
Anyway, thanks for the heads up and enjoy your holiday and things!
Least to most:
Fleshy- seems like town solving. No red flags. Talked to on discord has sensible opinions about the situation
Byngo- same as fleshy but I'm more confident with fleshy.
Sejora- haven't been posting much but when you do it's usually beneficial to town.
Liam - I don't really have a read on him or ness
Ness- ^
Dolby- I never know with Dolby. I want to trust him but it's possible that he blue sniped mog. Unlikely tho
Tom- I do not think he has towns best intentions in mind. I am not believing anything he has said. He apparently also thought that toads and chrys had to be scum buddies or Mason's according to someone. But he's voting chrys even though it's been debunked.
Karla- do not trust but after he posted his side of the pms I don't think he should be a candidate for lunch today.
Chrystina- her unwillingness to switch from improper to panda made me uneasy. But why would she kill toad when he trusted her?
Panda- who I will be voting for today. Her saying that she would sacrafice herself for crys after the votes made me suspicious. Also she was very confident that she would be killed over night. But why? She said the vig would not shoot her because she's 100% town. But that's not what everyone thinks.
Do you have time to post quick reads (if they've changed from when you first wrote them, or send in your vote) before you go or something? Will you still be on Discord?
Anyway, thanks for the heads up and enjoy your holiday and things!
Ah
I guess I have a couple hours left (I don't know when my flight is).
I'll probably still be on discord and the fair, just not time for the Mafia so any questions PM me. I'll put my vote on panda.
No one I find suspicious except possibly Tom, and panda.
@Fleshy wish people were already sus of me at the time when i told Crys to vote for me so you think as mafia i would risk being lynched by telling her to vote for me ? when it in mafias best interest to keep their KP up so they can get rid as many of us as possible ? no its not a smart move for mafia, and you are correct i also went back and counted the votes at the time i told Crys to vote me and i was wrong but the reason i was wrong was cause i had been out shopping and i was checking the voting thread all i was going off of was Crys talking to me and i apologize for that.
The bolded part is pretty jumbled up and very confusing. So let me get this straight, you counted the votes when you told Crys to vote you, but you were wrong (about the tally) because you were checking the thread while shopping? But you only went off on what Crys said? So did that mean you were checking the thread or not? Um please clarify or rephrase this sentence.
and the reason why i don't so angry about at the end of D1 was not cause i thought i was gonna die it was cause of the way it was done, seriously literally 3-4 of you voted for me with the last few minutes, thats pretty ****ty to see.... and in the ideal situation no its not what i want i didnt want to die i wanted Chrystina to be lynched yes if it were between only Crys and I then fine ill take the lynch but we (Crys and I) were working for and hoping for a Chrystina lynch.
I've already explained to you on our PM but I'll write it here again. I voted for Panda as a last minute attempt to save the doc. At the time the two most suspicious players were you and Chrys and at the time, between the two of you I thought you were the more likely to flip scum. At the same time I discussed with mog about it and we decided to vote for you on that basis. Of course I was hoping any of improper's voters would unvote so that you could be lynched instead. Hypothetically speaking, if improper did unvote Chrys and voted for you, wouldn't that have saved her and served your intention to sacrifice yourself? On top of that, improper's vote was ON Chrys so her taking the vote off Chrys would obviously lower the probability of Chrys getting lynched??? Nothing you said makes sense?
@Karla how do we even know that's what you told her to do ? You conveniently don't have the messages anymore right ? Also I never nudged her to do anything I told her it was her choice to make, she I told her Kirby was probably the safest bet if she was going to choose to use her shot but so did Fleshy and so did Tom so... I don't know why you are trying to make me take the fall for Kirbys death if anyone is to blame it's Kirby for pulling that bs in the first place how were we supposed to react to what he did ?
Her shoot doesn't have to be in vain, we were most likely gonna hang Kirby for confusing the heck out of us by claiming Jester then not claiming Jester so now that she shoot him and his role is confirmed we are free to try to not get a mislynch today.
Hold up there, I've always wanted to lynch Kirby not shoot em. And honestly I'm not sure what it is, but your last sentence here just rubs me all kinds of wrong.
Hello everyone. I'll try to do some catching up today since I have the day off from band camp today, but i'm in a bit of a pickle right now. I have a 450 page book to annotate + make a journal + write an essay on it, and i'm only on page 100 right now and if I don't finish it i'm getting kicked out of the class and NHS (national honors society). I'll do what I can today but if I don't finish the book i'm a screwed pooch.
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I just read Chrystina's defense on page 38 and she seems mad that she's being seen suspicious.
Yeah Panda was acting a little mad about being seen as suspicious too (on Discord more than here). I don't know though, it seems scummy, but most people would probably be at least a little mad if they were being so heavily suspected (not defending them or anything, I mean, those two along with Karla are the highest on my sus list) but I don't think anger or whatever over accusations necessarily means that much.
We only have 7 and a half hours or so to vote, I'm waiting but I'm flicking between the three mentioned before
@Fleshy well people were already sus of me at the time when i told Crys to vote for me so you think as mafia i would risk being lynched by telling her to vote for me ? when it in mafias best interest to keep their KP up so they can get rid as many of us as possible ? no its not a smart move for mafia, and you are correct i also went back and counted the votes at the time i told Crys to vote me and i was wrong but the reason i was wrong was cause i had been out shopping and i was checking the voting thread all i was going off of was Crys talking to me and i apologize for that. and the reason why i got so angry about what happened at the end of D1 was not cause i thought i was gonna die it was cause of the way it was done, seriously literally 3-4 of you voted for me with the last few minutes, thats pretty ****ty to see.... and in the ideal situation no its not what i want i didnt want to die i wanted Chrystina to be lynched yes if it were between only Crys and I then fine ill take the lynch but we (Crys and I) were working for and hoping for a Chrystina lynch. and as far as me telling Liam to keep his mouth shut he was just trolling or it seemed so to me and was just creating confusion.
The bolded part is pretty jumbled up and very confusing. So let me get this straight, you counted the votes when you told Crys to vote you, but you were wrong (about the tally) because you were checking the thread while shopping? But you only went off on what Crys said? So did that mean you were checking the thread or not? Um please clarify or rephrase this sentence.
I've already explained to you on our PM but I'll write it here again. I voted for Panda as a last minute attempt to save the doc. At the time the two most suspicious players were you and Chrys and at the time, between the two of you I thought you were the more likely to flip scum. At the same time I discussed with mog about it and we decided to vote for you on that basis. Of course I was hoping any of improper's voters would unvote so that you could be lynched instead. Hypothetically speaking, if improper did unvote Chrys and voted for you, wouldn't that have saved her and served your intention to sacrifice yourself? On top of that, improper's vote was ON Chrys so her taking the vote off Chrys would obviously lower the probability of Chrys getting lynched??? Nothing you said makes sense?
@Serjoa sorry that first thing was a typo.. I DIDN'T keep up on the votes at the time cause i was out shopping so i was just talking to Crys via discord. and about the voting for Chrys thing you are correct and that why it didnt happen Improper say "I'm dead" and i responded "What, if you need to you can vote for me so you don't die" and she said "nah, i just need people to see Chrystina as scummy" so with a few hours left that was our plan and so she didnt move her vote and neither did i... now if the 3 - 4 of you had voted earlier and gave Improper and I a chance to figure out what was going on i or she probably would have gave me the last vote to send me to be lynched, but you didnt you all voted me in the last few minutes and did give us a chance to save the doctor.
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:04 PM
you're not mafia right?
i'm vig and i haven't placed my shot yet
Panda - Last Monday at 3:05 PM
No how much more do I have to do to prove it
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:05 PM
i'm too worried about dying so i need to tonight
Panda - Last Monday at 3:06 PM
Omg, I was vig once its tough
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:06 PM
i really wanted to wait because of certain reasons
Panda - Last Monday at 3:06 PM
Ok but now you want to use your shot tonight?
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:06 PM
yes i roleclaimed to someone i don't know i fully trust
Panda - Last Monday at 3:06 PM
Oh man ��
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:06 PM
but i knew otherwise they'd go atfer me too much
I KNOW I SUCK
Panda - Last Monday at 3:07 PM
Who if you don't mind me asking ?
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:07 PM
karla : (
Panda - Last Monday at 3:07 PM
Hmmm.... Ok but you said Karla was sus of you right?
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:07 PM
they thought i was mafia cause i didn't say about the chrystina info
but it was a genuine mistake
i just overlooked it
Panda - Last Monday at 3:08 PM
Ok.... So does he trust your vig claim ?
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:08 PM
yes
but i'm worried he's leading to shoot someone because he's mafia
i'm just not 100% you know
Panda - Last Monday at 3:09 PM
Ya I understand well did you just see that Kirby just took back his claim of Jester
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:09 PM
lmao yes
Panda - Last Monday at 3:09 PM
He is probably Mafia
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:10 PM
should i just kill him?
i bet karla is scum and he roleblocks me SOB but then again if that happens then i suppose we'll know right/
Panda - Last Monday at 3:11 PM
So IF you really wanna shot tonight Kirby is probably the best bet
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:11 PM
i'm just too worried about dying
Panda - Last Monday at 3:13 PM
Ya....
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mogyay - Last Monday at 3:14 PM
do u think i'm doing something wrong?
Panda - Last Monday at 3:15 PM
No not at all
I just don't know what the best route would be
Shoot tonight ? And who ? Or risk being killed and wait and don't shoot ?
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:16 PM
i mean it's tough
kirby will probably get lynched either way
so it might be a waste of a shot
but then that's a waste of a lynch
Panda - Last Monday at 3:17 PM
Ya if you shoot him it gives us a chance to lynch another Mafia D2
So it just depends on how you wanna look at it, or you can shot someone else you might think is Mafia that we might have a hard time lynching D2
That's kinda what I did when I was vig and I was wrong and I killed a town member I felt so bad haha
Kirby is probably the safest bet if you choose to shoot
I think you have a little more than 2 hours to decided ��
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:25 PM
tom thinks chrys and kirby
Panda - Last Monday at 3:28 PM
Ya.... And you trust Tom ?
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:29 PM
that's what i'm saying though
like if he's scum surely he'd defend them
Panda - Last Monday at 3:30 PM
Would he ? He could bus I dunno ha it's a tough call to make
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:32 PM
maybe i should just try and kill chrys ��
Panda - Last Monday at 3:33 PM
Ha
You do what you think is right
You have heard and seen a lot of evidence
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:34 PM
JUST GNA PLAY IT SAFE AND GO W KIRBS
i feel like we can work out stuff from what he flips
also there's a good chance i might be rolebloked ugh
Panda - Last Monday at 3:34 PM
Ok
Ya possible but I think your good to go you didn't soft claim anywhere
mogyay - Last Monday at 3:46 PM
True...
Panda - Last Monday at 3:54 PM
Omg I wish you luck in your decision
Panda - Last Monday at 4:06 PM
I'm gonna stand in he middle with my eyes closed and just hope all the bullets magically miss me.
mogyay - Last Monday at 4:07 PM
SAME : (
apart from i will have a gun at least too
Panda - Last Monday at 4:12 PM
Omg I can't take the suspense
What if Kirby is just DUMB TOWN
mogyay - Last Monday at 4:13 PM
WHO IS THAT DUMB
Panda - Last Monday at 4:13 PM
Tardis maybe
mogyay - Last Monday at 4:13 PM
THERES NO WAY
Panda - Last Monday at 4:15 PM
You never know
mogyay - Last Monday at 4:18 PM
what have i done
is there any legit way to go back on a roleclaim....
Panda - Last Monday at 4:19 PM
Haha no
well you can play it safe and try to take out Kirby or YOLO and shoot at one of the big boys ��
mogyay - Last Monday at 4:20 PM
look i mean if im blocked or killed
karla is mafia
basically
Panda - Last Monday at 4:20 PM
cause you didn't tell anyone else right ?
mogyay - Last Monday at 4:21 PM
no just u and karla
Panda - Last Monday at 4:21 PM
Ok. Then ya so wait can you message Daniel and ask him if you are role blocked if your shot gets returned to you(edited)
mogyay - Last Monday at 4:24 PM
it does!!!!
thats something at least
Panda - Last Monday at 4:33 PM
Ok that's good
And I'm assuming when you shoot someone and you are also shoot your shot still goes through cause that's the way it usually works
mogyay - Last Monday at 4:34 PM
yeah i think so!
i didn't ask but yeah
so either way i should be ok
Panda - Last Monday at 5:04 PM
How you doin over there ?
mogyay - Last Monday at 5:04 PM
good
dunno who to kill
Panda - Last Monday at 5:04 PM
Good, making sure our Vig didn't pass out on us ��
mogyay - Last Monday at 5:04 PM
so maybe not good actually haha
oh dont worry i wont
Panda - Last Monday at 5:04 PM
You have 55 minutes
���� may the odds be ever in your favor ����
mogyay - Last Monday at 5:08 PM
: (
im still horribly confused
Panda - Last Monday at 5:12 PM
I'm sorry just think about the information your read, heard, gathered and make the best choice
That or don't shoot
But don't worry I have faith in you
mogyay - Last Monday at 5:13 PM
i just don't wanna risk dying sigh
thanks pands
Panda - Last Monday at 5:17 PM
Well everyone has a risk of dying but you greater that risk when you told Karla you were Vig so I dunno haha take a chance I guess ?
mogyay - Last Monday at 5:32 PM
sobs
i'm starting to think i should see if i survive
Panda - Last Monday at 5:33 PM
haha
well if you die and i die then no one will know that karla probably killed you
mogyay - Last Monday at 5:34 PM
wait what if we both die though
even if i do kill kirby
Panda - Last Monday at 5:34 PM
thats what i just said
mogyay - Last Monday at 5:34 PM
oh right sorry i thought you meant that if i don't kill anyone nvm
Panda - Last Monday at 5:34 PM
then hopefully he is mafia and we take one down with us
mogyay - Last Monday at 5:34 PM
welp
i'm gonna jjust kill kirby
cause like
either way we work something out
Panda - Last Monday at 5:35 PM
haha ya i think thats the safest way to go
fingers crossed
mogyay - Last Monday at 5:35 PM
ok im going to send it now
ty
Panda - Last Monday at 5:35 PM
no worries, good luck
^interesting, thanks for posting the conversation.
Just posting this again (since it's getting closer to voting time and I'm not sure if you seen it panda) as I'm wondering about it, what does this quote mean? Did Mog tell you her final wish was to get Karla lynched...?
@Karla please explain the bolded text, why would she want to bait you out ? and why is trusting me with her final wish (making sure you get lynched) is bad?
because you said that earlier, yet in the conversation you just posted, I don't see Mog saying that at all. Unless I'm reading the bolded part wrong or missing something.
