Mafia Overwatch Mafia - End Game, Town wins!

Voil?, a reads list.

Toadsworthy: I initially thought it was bit odd of him to make [this] post, mostly due to the smug manner of his last sentence. When he made [this] post, it changed my read on him. When toad is seen as suspicious he goes ballistic, as seen in Miraculous Ladybug mafia. Other than that, the post itself make me lean town becuase of the huge tone shift he has. He goes from being relaxed to blowing up on me for saying he was lurking.

Also, I did see him looking back on Trump mafia so I believe him when he said that he was looking back upon his previous behavior.

WhiteFlamingo: Yeah I know, this is a weird read. I'm not 100% certain about this read, but White has done plenty of things that come across to me as noob town, could change in the future. Its most noteably this post:

Mafia Guesses:
Toadsworthy (A little unsure but I think its an okay guess)
Glow (I definitely don't think your town but I'm not necessarily sure your a vigilante)
Tom (Either this or you are a vigilante)

Town guesses:
Ness
Jacob
Trundle
Primalflexer

Vigilantes:
Karen
Tom
Dolby

Everybody else hasn't posted enough for me to tell.

Key word here Vigilante. I'm pretty sure that Whiteflamingo wouldn't say "vigilante" unless she actually knew what 1 was. However, the fact that she says in a later post here makes me feel like she Other than that they've been flopping around like a fish out of water, i'm more inclind to noob town read them.

Seroja: Seroja is obviously town. This whole post [here] summarizes so much of whats wrong with Endless right now.

Apple2013: He has good pushes and is making sense about what he's saying. The one thing I don't like about him however is the fact that he towncred's Tom so quickly for his first post, to which he supports it by saying "my reads aren't final yet, its just a guess.". Other then that, I'm townleaning him right now.

Dolby: I don't have a valid reason to town read him nor scum read him. Nothing stands out to me about him.

Karen: Not sure what to make of them. Their posts are fine, its just nothing about her stands out to me as town or scum. I'd be inclinded to think town, but I'm going to wait and see more of their thoughts before I reach a verdict about them.

GetLucky: I agree with what his read on Tom, but not enough posts to make a read a him.

PrimalFlexer: Can't come up with a good read for them right now.

Heyden: This one for obvious reasons. Will look into him more in the future.

Jacob: Main thing with Jacob is activity. I'd be inclined to give him more of a break from the others, given that he has started to give several reads. Its the motive and tone behind this post that sorta stands out to me:

Can I get some questions to answer if anyone has some, I feel pretty useless so far tbh and I'd like to have something new to comment on.

Also I'm not completely against Primal or Abe lynch, but I just need a little more convincing than organization. Thats a weak reason

Right now N e s s is my only townlean.

The first sentence in that post makes me feel like he's scum trying to look innocent. The motive behind it is off, its like he's trying to avoid commenting on different matters. Theres also his reads list [here] that doesn't provide much of any reasoning. half of his reads are null. However, his reads on Tom and Toads make reasonable sense to me, his read on Tom is pretty spot on to what I think of him as well. I don't think we should lynch Jacob today, as I think his lynch wouldn't provide a lot of information.

Amanda: She makes her post [here] which doesn't really give a lot of content, she basically just says she wants more information from Seroja and gives her opinion about my behavior. But, she then goes on to make [here] saying that Tom and Endless are good targets for today even though she hasn't brought up any thoughts about either of them in her previous posts. Its a possibility that she could be coasting, due to the fact that she has yet to give any of her thoughts as to who scum is besides bandwagoning on the 2 largest wagons at that time.

glow: Her playstyle has changed. I don't have any other reasoning then that, she's just a lot different then how I remember playing with her. My read on her could definitely change in the future though.

Endless: Like Seroja said, I don't like how he made this gigantic post about me based off of a ton of meta only for him to completely let go of his read based off of other meta. He has a post similar to this in Shadowrun mafia when he was scum [here]. He has yet to give any other scum reads besides a weak one on Dolby, which as of yet he STILL hasn't brought up anything else about it.

As for his claim as to being a Busdriver, I don't necessarily believe it. However, I do believe that either Tom or Endless are scum not both of them.

Tom: Tom is scum because he has been avoiding the thread. This goes with what Seroja said about seeing him online yet he doesn't actually show up. I've seen him viewing the thread numerous times for him to not say anything. He did the same thing during Dethy 7, where he would look at the thread then disappear. He made the excuse that game that he was "too busy becuase of the 12 hour day cycles"

Also yeah my behavior this game has been off because I've got more things on my plate, had this been a 24 hour dethy I'd been more active. So is the case on me now literally because Nessy pointed out my activity?

There is also his thoughts on me, in which I think is awkward of him. He makes [this] post that gives me the feeling that he thinks I'm scummy, yet the most he brings up about me afterwards is piggybacking off Dolby suggesting that I could be a jester. I also don't like the fact that he's making such a leap of logic here about there being a 3rd party, as well as taking a while swing about the number of mafia there are.

And seriously? He's diverging from Endless to White? Come on now.
 
given that we'43 running out of time and I just got out of school with things to do

I honk tom is one of the safer people to lynch atm bcuz of his inactive ish posting activity
but I am slightly hesitating bcuz of the list that he posted earlier about possible role names
i know for a fact that it's inaccurate bcuz of what I have, but how much it's inaccurate idk
so I wonder, does the inaccuracy come from him trying to cover up his mafia roles or actual ignorance of red roles bcuz he's town!

idk if this even makes sense but I'm just typing whatever comes to mind
another two suspects are Jacob who I think posted a little and also get lucky who fell off the radar
I mean looking at rolenames from a lore perspective, I gave my thoughts on who was what.

Overwatch Team:
Soldier 76
Mercy
Torbjorn
Reinhardt
Ana
McCree
Genji
Mei
Tracer
Winston

Talon Team:
Reaper
Widowmaker
Sombra

Neutral:
Hanzo
Junkrat
Roadhog

Zenyatta
Lucio
Dva
Zarya
Pharah

Bastion
Symmetra

Hanzo IDK since he "killed" Genji, but regrets it so? Red is evil leaning, green good. It's entirely possible that much like the matches of Overwatch Curry/Kat didn't go at this from a lore standpoint.




Either way, there's really nothing concrete about me. A "slip" that I didn't include the most obvious part of a role PM? That's pretty dumb, I'm pretty sure you could do better Abby. Either way I'm dead so whenever Curry just wants to call it, I'll sprint my way to Obs Point Antartica.
 
v sad that i only got one line in ness' reads post

i haven't gotten enough attention this game
 
My belated reads list (for readability I use purple instead of green - purple-black-red for town-null-mafia) :

1. Endless AKA Abe - I haven't seen the "disorganised posts" that others have. I didn't agree with parts of the big Ness post in particular (namely, the interpretation of his previous games), but I had no problems with the post itself. I'm not entirely comfortable with reading them as Town, but that's because it's Endless rather than any particular issue I have with how he's played this game so far.

2. Dolby - has contributed a lot. I'm null on him for now mostly due to the concerns others have raised about him. I need to reread his posts.

3. Ness - I really hope I'm not wrong on this one.

4. Jacob - has contributed some interesting points, especially his post noting Tom's content this game. I note others are concerned about him for reasons that make sense to me so I'll leave him null for now.

5. toadsworthy - I don't recall anything that's struck me as off, he's been contributing and engaged in the discussion throughout. Town read for now.

6. Apple2013 AKA Trundle - hmm. His recent comments mentioning "red flags" cemented my current read. Lots of evocative words, not a lot of specifics. I need to go back over his posts now that I've pinned down what struck me earlier, but I'm comfortable with my suspicions so he's a scum read.

7. Tom - Jacob's post about Tom's content was a concise summary. In the absence of a better choice, I'll be voting for Tom today.

8. GetLucky AKA Andrew, Diarkia - null for now, I need to go back and read his posts again.

9. Seroja - reasonable, rational, helpful, and focussed posts as usual. I'm aware I might be wishing more than really "reading" on this one, but definitely a town read for now.

10. amanda1983 - I forgot how ****ing much I hate formatting these ****ing posts. I really hope none of these colours get muddled up this time..

11. Whiteflamingo AKA White - null for now, I need to reread their posts. A couple of things have struck me as off, but it could be down to the way they communicate rather than to their alignment.

12. Rory&Easton Heyden - how on earth am *I* one of your strongest town reads at this stage??

13. glow AKA entropy, m3ow - town read for now. Like Seroja, I might be seeing what I want to see a little, but I've certainly not seen anything suspicious. I also don't think her BF is Mafia, and I think they're on the same team from how they're playing.

14. Karen - the frequent posts that cover a range of things - not just sticking to one particular tangent - and the ~openness of her posts have me reading her as Town so far.

15. Primalflexer - given this is his first game, and he's glow's BF, I've seen nothing suspicious. I get the strong impression he's on the same team as glow, and I'm reading her as town so far.
 
Tom: Tom is scum because he has been avoiding the thread. This goes with what Seroja said about seeing him online yet he doesn't actually show up. I've seen him viewing the thread numerous times for him to not say anything. He did the same thing during Dethy 7, where he would look at the thread then disappear. He made the excuse that game that he was "too busy becuase of the 12 hour day cycles"



There is also his thoughts on me, in which I think is awkward of him. He makes [this] post that gives me the feeling that he thinks I'm scummy, yet the most he brings up about me afterwards is piggybacking off Dolby suggesting that I could be a jester. I also don't like the fact that he's making such a leap of logic here about there being a 3rd party, as well as taking a while swing about the number of mafia there are.

And seriously? He's diverging from Endless to White? Come on now.
Last night I was mid post when I grew tired and was headed to bed until a medical issue arose. RL circumstances, scummy whatever IDC what you call it. When I use Chrome on my iPad Pro it's constantly refreshing all my tabs even when I'm not viewing them specifically, I was on WedMD most of the night. This morning probably looking at dumb The Division stuff. Dethy 7 I literally just wasn't active for because I didn't read the OP to see 12 hour phases so I should have sat it out.

This is a 15 person game, there is 3-4 mafioso max. 0-2 third parties max, 0-1 hostile max. Whatever number is leftover is town.

I was curious as to what Glow saw in White when Curry posted the updated reads list, sue me. I still think we ought to be lynching Endless, I think it was far to convienent that he built up what would probably be a concrete case against you but after "reading" those mafiascum games you're clear now? I think it's more than he just wanted to back away from a case garnering negative attention brought to himself, especially since he's fakeclaimed to get out of it. You don't easily test to confirm a bus driver, that's stupid. That's "Hey Vig shoot X, but Driver will switch X with Y." Anyone can fake that. There's literally no proving bus driver outside of a role cop.
 
@Ness Ironically if you view literally the next post after the one you linked in that post it states that I generally don't back off as mafia. I textwalls case in literally every game.
 
@Ness Ironically if you view literally the next post after the one you linked in that post it states that I generally don't back off as mafia. I textwalls case in literally every game.

I already read that before I posted, doesn't completely change my opinion. I'll read more about your scum meta later.
 
Having quickly skimmed over Dolby's posts, does it not strike anyone else as peculiar that Dolby's playing it relatively safe and constantly putting off major reads/meta posts? Just a few "Oh I think Tom and Jacob is scum", "Trundle and Toads town." Nothing else really on people besides Nessy? Ya'll gonna put me to hang for excuses, can we take a closer look here?
 
I already read that before I posted, doesn't completely change my opinion. I'll read more about your scum meta later.
My scum meta is, if I may be presumptuous enough to say, near identical to my town meta. The only difference is intent.
 
amanda, I find it interesting that you are the first person to actually scum read me this game. I am going to admit, it is perfectly reasonable considering I was on Ness and Endless, and have hopped to Tom recently due to the "slip". If the mafia doesn't kill me tonight, I will continue to press as hard as I can on the enemies.
 
Tom are you Mafia?

The inner voice in my head wants to say yes just to build Abe up and then watch the fallout, but no I'm not mafia. And literally claiming anything besides town at this point would be suicide for me anyways no? You guys are quite aware of my fondness of third party fakeclaims, aware of my fondness of blue fakeclaims and well given that there's 23 names to claim it would be suicide for me to bluff my way out of the noose.

I am town aligned and tonight in 1 hour, 30 mins I will die town.
 
The inner voice in my head wants to say yes just to build Abe up and then watch the fallout, but no I'm not mafia. And literally claiming anything besides town at this point would be suicide for me anyways no? You guys are quite aware of my fondness of third party fakeclaims, aware of my fondness of blue fakeclaims and well given that there's 23 names to claim it would be suicide for me to bluff my way out of the noose.

I am town aligned and tonight in 1 hour, 30 mins I will die town.

Okay. Then can you post your reads? Town players still win even if they've died, if Town wins. So anything you post that helps Town now just helps yourself, right?
 
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