Mafia The Real Housewives of Mafia - Town Wins

Ive been w/ my dad a lot today, so cant make a big post atm but:

@My reaction to Dad: To be totally honest I skimmed and it seemed good, I'll have to reread it. Entirely missed Abe/Zendel even being brought up in that. But doing that when Im at home and not hanging w/ dad

@Ness making this quick bc goung to see holiday ligjts in a sec but I did feel like Abe saying that was significant. Its not my heaviest FOS, will get into it more later. I feel like my opinion on Abe more solidly is gonna depend on my Dad reread
 
Arstotzkan said:
Ive been w/ my dad a lot today, so cant make a big post atm but:

@My reaction to Dad: To be totally honest I skimmed and it seemed good, I'll have to reread it. Entirely missed Abe/Zendel even being brought up in that. But doing that when Im at home and not hanging w/ dad

@Ness making this quick bc goung to see holiday ligjts in a sec but I did feel like Abe saying that was significant. Its not my heaviest FOS, will get into it more later. I feel like my opinion on Abe more solidly is gonna depend on my Dad reread
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I don't believe you at all, that is such an easy way to dig out of being sussed for town reading Dad for such a crappy post. His ignorance about Abe's case on Farobi is a total flop, a scummy flop. Trying to start something on me when the post isn't even about me is an utter fail and I have no idea why you would town read for that.

Skimming his post when that was probably the most important thing in the post/the centre of the post is interesting.

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Okay so everyone has checked in so far apart from Evan who has probably forgot about the game, funnily enough I forgot he even signed up.
 
Punchy mah boi you said you suspected Dolby because he plays "aggressively" like doki doki game but why you voted Ness instead of Dolby maybe most of us aren't suspecting Ness or anything can you explain?
 
Well, as a town member (it's true!), I was also inclined to overlook Endless's post of me because I thought Zem was an irl name of someone else he knew, which meant that I may have skipped his case against me if it weren't for double checking. It is not impossible that it could be a town mistake, but a player of Dad's calibre making that sort of mistake is much more notable than some medium skilled player
 
Joke or not still considers a vote and also I cud sense punchy is third party I do not suggest killing/lynching him him cuz maybe thats his wincon I dont think he deserves to win :)


No seriously punchy doesnt deserve to win ./.
 
ITookYourWaffles said:
Joke or not still considers a vote and also I cud sense punchy is third party I do not suggest killing/lynching him him cuz maybe thats his wincon I dont think he deserves to win :)


No seriously punchy doesnt deserve to win ./.
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Even if that's true it would be better to lose him than a town member
 
Zendel said:
I don't believe you at all, that is such an easy way to dig out of being sussed for town reading Dad for such a crappy post. His ignorance about Abe's case on Farobi is a total flop, a scummy flop. Trying to start something on me when the post isn't even about me is an utter fail and I have no idea why you would town read for that.

Skimming his post when that was probably the most important thing in the post/the centre of the post is interesting.
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I know you don't believe me but for what it's worth, I do have an alibi of sorts. In my post where I said his post was good, I mentioned I was curious as to mog's and Ness's reply, and when I addressed the post itself I only looked at mog's and Ness's bit, and you gotta keep in mind I had just read every single post in the game up until that point, human error happens. Why would I only mention mog/Ness if I read and saw that you and Abe were a big part of that too?

Just got back home, time to read the whole Dad and Abe thing

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in other news I see I missed DDLC mafia and Im sad
 
Dad said:
Out of everyone so far this set of RQS answers bothers me the most. I know people are suspecting Punchy for being jokey but it's actually mog's jokeyness here that seems to hint at a little bit of nervousness lol. Especially with this last line. I think Panda is pointing that out as her 'I think mafia is in here' not 'this is the mafia team'. I can already tell toads isn't completely random in his role distribution as a host and so a mafia team without somebody with a good deal of experience (Dolby/Endless/Me/Ness and maybe glow) doesn't seem like something he'd set up given the opportunities. I know it's not the greatest meta to use but my experience with mog has often been through the discord mafia and she gets very jokey and doesn't really complete her thoughts when she's wolf there which is probably why this sticks out to me more than others.

As for the experienced player that's on the mafia team (a theory I fully buy): it's Endless or Ness. Mostly because Dolby isn't setting off alarms and glow hasn't provided much content yet. Endless? I don't like how he's telling people how to play a PM game with his usual 'I'm very experienced therefore should be listened to' attitude. While I fully think he's right in his suggestions, they're also very common sense and things you shouldn't need experience to understand. So it feels kinda pro-town for the sake of seeming pro-town. ALTHOUGH I do like the points he brings against Zendel about the length of his experience answer, this was weird as heck to me and I can't help but jump onto a little suspicion on him here:



Actually in general page 26 sees a lot of frantic posting from Zendel that I don't like either.

As for Ness? He has gone out of his way to point out that he won't be fully utilizing the PM system. Great. So what I will be paying attention with him at this point is how much in-thread activity he is producing and in this case he's got a decent amount of questioning of small moments happening in the game (team incompatibilities and talking about a reason for Heyden to be PMd) but he hasn't really gone after anyone yet.

Right now my guess is mogyay/Zendel/Ness tbh.
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Just pulling this up.

As you can see the Endless part is around the same length as the Mog RQS, it is also the centre of the post so you would have needed to read this part before reading his *Ness* paragraph which you have mentioned acknowledging.

So I don't know why you didn't mention it and I also don't know why his other points he made were "good" because they aren't. Nothing in his post is townie behaviour, it is either ignorant or unfair; in Ness' case, the game barely started and using discord vs tbt for mog, which are different platforms btw and makes for a different playstyle (she hasn't been the frequently jokey type in tbt games from what I've seen) between those platforms.

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*Mog RQS paragraph*
 
ok I ****ed up lmao, reading dad's post it was bad. I know it sounds hollow but I don't really have any excuse for it aside from skimming from reading a bunch of pages at once so FOS that all you want for me being alright with Dad's post, it's justified (like even the mog/Ness part like good lord). Also I've really liked Abe's recent content and I dont think the points against him for arrogance is really a good scumtell - he's always arrogant (kek, last time I said I shouldn't call you talented abe you said it wouldn't hurt for me to compliment you :p) so that's not really alignment indicative, and then I also liked his replies to my ****. Moving him into town read.

I will say that I know Dad respects Ness's scum play a lot because of Greek Cultists so I'm not entirely surprised about the GF logic there so I dont really sus him for thinking Ness is good, but I do think his logic is flawed in saying that Toads would assume the same.

Still want to read into Zendel/Panda, gonna do that next and also gonna read into Ness since he'd made markedly little impact on my mind. Slight TR on Zendel atm though, something about his interaction with me feels genuine.
 
Sigh
Meh I should make more reads. Waffles seems pretty normal, I'm honestly kinda scumreading Panda because of gut feeling *subject to change* Zendel seems townie like last game. Chele is a null for me, I doubt that they would be that obvious and agree with each other every time they post.
 
Zendel said:
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The middle is what's generally skipped when skimming, because there's the beginning topic sentence and the final conclusion that's more of note than anything else. This is what I did:

>First looks at the part where it says mog/zendel/ness
>found mog's part, then sees Abe or Ness. Assumes Abe was determined less sus than Ness, looks for the Ness part
>skims for a paragraph regarding you, didn't find any
 
Arstotzkan said:
ok I ****ed up lmao, reading dad's post it was bad. I know it sounds hollow but I don't really have any excuse for it aside from skimming from reading a bunch of pages at once so FOS that all you want for me being alright with Dad's post, it's justified (like even the mog/Ness part like good lord). Also I've really liked Abe's recent content and I dont think the points against him for arrogance is really a good scumtell - he's always arrogant (kek, last time I said I shouldn't call you talented abe you said it wouldn't hurt for me to compliment you :p) so that's not really alignment indicative, and then I also liked his replies to my ****. Moving him into town read.

I will say that I know Dad respects Ness's scum play a lot because of Greek Cultists so I'm not entirely surprised about the GF logic there so I dont really sus him for thinking Ness is good, but I do think his logic is flawed in saying that Toads would assume the same.

Still want to read into Zendel/Panda, gonna do that next and also gonna read into Ness since he'd made markedly little impact on my mind. Slight TR on Zendel atm though, something about his interaction with me feels genuine.
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"thinking Ness is good" ikr :,)

so what, you're suspicious of me?
 
Kinda have this paranoid theory that it's Dad/Glow/Punchy. As I mentioned earlier, Dad holding the double standard between Punchy and Mogyay was no bueno. Moreover, his post really didn't make a whole lot in my eyes, including entirely writing off Glow as town. Speaking of Glow, it probably isn't fair to judge her as part of a potential team when her play can be summed up as her not being here. However, Glow has taken the time to make a full 2 (ultimately worthless imo) posts. The fact that Dad writes her off is bad in my eyes, but it also doesn't seem like town Glow. Glow's a better town player than maf player, and this level of activity and less than usefulness (I'd expect her to make at least a comment on player alignments the first time she came back, she did in FNAF when she was gone for the day) is reminding me of OverWatch mafia, where she made only 10 or so posts in the first 4 RL days of the game and 3 reads on people, mainly saying that people were town.

Gonna actually read back on Punchy in the previous games and see if he focused on finding town or maf, but I really don't feel like his Chele read is all that justified

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Actually yeah, he focused on finding maf but has been far more chaotic throughout this game
 
Arstotzkan said:
The middle is what's generally skipped when skimming, because there's the beginning topic sentence and the final conclusion that's more of note than anything else. This is what I did:

>First looks at the part where it says mog/zendel/ness
>found mog's part, then sees Abe or Ness. Assumes Abe was determined less sus than Ness, looks for the Ness part
>skims for a paragraph regarding you, didn't find any
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I can understand that logic I suppose. I did that sort of thing in the past but not so much in the present otherwise I would make mistakes like what you did.

The paragraph about "me" is mixed with the Abe paragraph when it is actually about Farobi then he goes on to bash my rqs post which is nothing like what Abe described (how the hell could he get them mixed up? lol wtf) and saying he didn't like how frantic I was in page 26. He cant even use the excuse that he got mixed up with names because he connected his points about "me" and me together.
 
Zendel:
Something in general I'm noting is he seems to make a show in some of his posts. I haven't played with you in a while man but I don't recall you being this dramatic (hey it's like we're on the Real Housewives). But like you seem to have some inclination to almost narrate what's going on?
post 244 said:
I have never played a PM game before so I don't know how to approach anybody, lol.

I'll go for the players I feel that I can read the best.
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post 259 said:
I hate this forum sometimes, stop with the glitches!
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post 287 said:
I realize now that it was an attempt to cast further suspicion on me in an attempt to drive me down further into the ground.
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post 316 said:
I've been trying to help you in every single game you have played. Are you reading my posts?
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post 319 said:
The fact that you consider your post a "case" is laughable
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I'm not sure if this is a case of thinking aloud or trying to artificially put in thoughts, it's something I'm going to have to think about. I lean towards the former.

I do like him helping Punchy yet at the same time FOSing him like telling him how to improve yet not using that as an excuse to townread him, and I feel like he's been pretty forward with his posts in general which is a good sign. Nothing has really stood out to me as EXTREME scum or town though.

Conclusion: tentative townread

Still doing the other two but @Ness no, I completely nullread you atm. And you are pretty good man, idk if you're considered a "godfather" amongst the main community though :,)
 
PunchyDaHufflepuff said:
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Meh I should make more reads. Waffles seems pretty normal, I'm honestly kinda scumreading Panda because of gut feeling *subject to change* Zendel seems townie like last game. Chele is a null for me, I doubt that they would be that obvious and agree with each other every time they post.
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They being Chele and Dolby.
 
Dolby said:
Kinda have this paranoid theory that it's Dad/Glow/Punchy. As I mentioned earlier, Dad holding the double standard between Punchy and Mogyay was no bueno. Moreover, his post really didn't make a whole lot in my eyes, including entirely writing off Glow as town. Speaking of Glow, it probably isn't fair to judge her as part of a potential team when her play can be summed up as her not being here. However, Glow has taken the time to make a full 2 (ultimately worthless imo) posts. The fact that Dad writes her off is bad in my eyes, but it also doesn't seem like town Glow. Glow's a better town player than maf player, and this level of activity and less than usefulness (I'd expect her to make at least a comment on player alignments the first time she came back, she did in FNAF when she was gone for the day) is reminding me of OverWatch mafia, where she made only 10 or so posts in the first 4 RL days of the game and 3 reads on people, mainly saying that people were town.

Gonna actually read back on Punchy in the previous games and see if he focused on finding town or maf, but I really don't feel like his Chele read is all that justified

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Actually yeah, he focused on finding maf but has been far more chaotic throughout this game
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Yeah, she is usually more quite, jokey, useless and snarky as scum. She doesn't add much to discussion and the change of attitude between town and scum glow is eally distinct and easy to pick up on.

Paper Mario mafia/ Overwatch mafia vs Breath of the wild mafia would be an example of a change in playstyle from glow which sticks out like a sore thumb. I doubt she likes being scum and I doubt she tried in either of those games though, I don't recall glow mentioning any distain for the mafia role in previous games.
 
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