Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!

Tbh, I'm just not going to bother trying to explain why FN is being so ominous and not answering my questions. Ness just replace out if you don't want to play, Dad may death tunnel Vanessa, but I personally TR you rn, and I personally object to your lynch. I think FN might be lyncher as of now.
 
Tbh, I'm just not going to bother trying to explain why FN is being so ominous and not answering my questions. Ness just replace out if you don't want to play, Dad may death tunnel Vanessa, but I personally TR you rn, and I personally object to your lynch. I think FN might be lyncher as of now.

Thats the point of this game, to explain your reasoning... and also answer Dedenne's question, they asked you like 20 times. FN isn't a lyncher on you, that would be absolutely stupid of a way to go about it 10 seconds into the game.
 
#expose Dad

For reading your behavior as suspicious? You literally just said that you know you've played poorly this game and you can't expect me not to read into it. You act like people actually listen to me when it comes to lynches. Honestly I didn't expect you to ask to be lynched and if you just calmly defended yourself from me and carried on we all know everyone would probably sheep FireNinja and that's probably where people will look next after this quit. Speaking of which I'm torn as to whether that would be the best option or not, but I'll get to that. But this outcry against me also feels kinda OMGUSish.

The only reason I'm not -fully- adding your emotion to my list of reasons why you're sus is because I recall you getting emotional for a little while after leading a mislynch in BotW, but this is a lot more than that. Are your irl stresses really that bad to lead to this play? Because I haven't seen a play this bad from you since you were new (and we're all bad when new).

Also for the next twelve hours? I will go to bed in about two hours, go into work at 6, and probably not even be able to be around for EoD and if I do I will only be able to be on for a few minutes.
 
Yes Dad blame me for #omgus for a half obvious #joke

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Also I'll just do what Bianca does lemme just say I'm not mafia and Dad is confirmed scum and plan on making a 12 page essay on this issue in the next hour on my iPhone, ur goin down kiddo my dad owns TBT and can get your account #banned
 
meh Ness prob town

we could always lynch in oath dad defense u know!!

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dedenne*
 
What’s up guys its ya boi DJ Atomica coming atcha from Crash.fm

[url-“http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...hread&p=7827240&viewfull=1#post7827240”]@Ness in response to this post:[/url] YUP. Why bother putting time and effort into getting an inactive killed when I can sit here and wait for ya’ll to panic lynch like we’ve seemed to do the last couple games.

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?446202-Call-the-Ships-to-Port-Game-Thread&p=7827414&viewfull=1#post7827414”]@Trundle in response to this post:[/url] I dunno if this is the post you mentioned as a call or if it’s a different one, but I’m not sure what you’re expecting from me? Ya’ll know I don’t take D1 seriously like at all, I think they’re the most boring part of the game. I like looking at the kills and then trying to tie back to people. :)

Also lmao at you guys trying to tie me memeing around to another meme I did in AoT Mafia. I guess though that means the meme is stale, shame. I’ll have to be more creative when it comes to jokeposts.

I don’t get why Dad is getting sussed for actually trying to figure the game out either, I like his stuff and I’m willing to sheep the dadster today.
 
Honestly though, on the note of FireNinja, I'm torn on him because

Cons: I think his play against Punchy through the beginning of this day got to anti-town levels and he clung to it in a way that didn't make me feel good about him, and I didn't like the string of defenses he recently put out (in addition to the jokiness at the end of it).

But...

Pros: I agree with Evan that FireNinja wouldn't be the one to try to do anything but fly under the radar as mafia, and I agree with many that a lot of his decisions earlier in this day is too bold for mafia FireNinja (still cautious though), but lastly I just like his points against Ryumia because I find like 95% of it agreeable. People need to read the points he brings up against her because while I have pointed out that she has been fillery as well as trying to come off as overly polite, he's also right about her lack of stance taking now that I think about it.

Either way FireNinja and Ryumia don't seem to be on the same team. Also I'd like to reiterate that Ryumia also has said some odd things that I'd like clarification about:

-Why defend having null reads and show distaste for people who dislike heavy-null-readers. Null reading is the crutch of coasting.
-How in any way can you read the Dolby vs Kayla debate as fabrication?

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Yes Dad blame me for #omgus for a half obvious #joke

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Also I'll just do what Bianca does lemme just say I'm not mafia and Dad is confirmed scum and plan on making a 12 page essay on this issue in the next hour on my iPhone, ur goin down kiddo my dad owns TBT and can get your account #banned

I mean hey, looks like I have Tom in my pocket. Ready to sheep me.

And no, Tom, you don't deserve a free pass through day 1 and night 1 just because you're known for being quiet day 1. I'm pretty sure it stemmed from you being N0'd and N1'd very often but...lol, that clearly isn't gonna happen these days with the level of substance you provide as a result of your playstyle change. Therefore you have no valid reason to stick to that playstyle change. So yeah, who do you scumread?

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but I’m not sure what you’re expecting from me? Ya’ll know I don’t take D1 seriously like at all, I think they’re the most boring part of the game. I like looking at the kills and then trying to tie back to people. :)

Also using the kills as information is only a fraction of what scumhunting is about and you're also using that as a reason to skate by all the time D1 without having to look at the whole picture.

I'd say we should stage an intervention to just policy lynch you and Oath whenever you rest on your blindly accepted laziness meta until you change your ways but the two of you rarely seem to play. Kayla probably wouldn't believe it when I say this but if she wants to lynch people who coast you two should be the ones to consider because we can be certain it doesn't have to do with being new to the game.

Alright, that concludes the anti-Tom rant.
 
Sorry if my reads aren't the best, I'm mostly going off of what I've seen other people say and kinda narrowing things down since we need to decide on a lynch candidate by today.
After this I'll proceed to respond to any posts about me.

Townleans
ILY - I already stated earlier that I town read her the strongest due to how she immediately began scum-hunting. She hasn't said anything scummy and her posts are genuine. She actively reads people and hasn't shown any favoritism. Everyone else town reads her as well, so it's easy to say she's my strongest town lean.
Toads - He's been the most active in this game. I would think mafia wouldn't have time to post as much as toads has, because don't they have to communicate with each other outside of the thread? He hasn't really shown favoritism towards anyone either and has been actively replying to people and sparking discussion. I don't town lean him as heavily as ILY, but I don't see him as too scummy rn.
Ness - I don't think mafia would let their teammate offer themselves up for lynch?
Ghostkid - He hasn't contributed too much but his posts genuinely sound like he's trying to figure the game out on his own. If he had a team of mafia members I'm sure they would be guiding him more and he wouldn't ask so many questions on the thread.
Other than those few, I'm still trying to figure out who else really sticks out as town to me. ATM there isn't a lot of information to go off of.

Scumleans/Lynch candidates
Antonio - Different playstyle than last game (I wasn't in it but followed along). Isn't as active and I feel like that's a big scum-tell. Tries to stay relevant by posting saying he'll follow-up but never does lol.
Dedenne - All of her posts are targeting punchy and she hasn't contributed much else. She doesn't seem too sus to me but no one else has mentioned her really so I thought I would bring her up as a candidate. I would like to hear something from her that's not just related to punchy lol. Seems as tho she's constantly trying to bring attention to him and not herself.
Kate - ILY says she's been browsing the thread but has made very minimal/short posts. Why would she keep up to date on the thread, but not say anything? A lot of accusations have been thrown at her and I would like to hear her defend herself. Time is running out, and if she still doesn't say anything near the end of day then I think she should be one of the top lynch candidates.

These are the people that have stuck out to me so far.
 
@Kammm most of my posts have been about punchy purely because I just want an answer to my question which he clearly saw. after that I'll stop targeting him. I'm starting my reads list in a few mins so don't bug me :mad: (directed at everyone)
 
meh Ness prob town

we could always lynch in oath dad defense u know!!

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dedenne*

Why me? If you're going to say it's because I'm doing the weird google doc thing and half of my content being me stating the obvious, I've already addressed that, and I've now started going more into depth on the material. So if that's all it is that's pretty hypocritical since your activity so far this game has been unimpressive. If you wanna fish for a case against me with my reads it'll be an entertaining read when I wake up.

I'd say that 2/3 of the people you list here are easy targets but given I just revealed that I will be gone until EoD and maybe even after, and wouldn't be able to defend myself if you pulled something out of your ass, it's 3/3. <--Tell me I'm wrong with this last sentence.
 
I mean if ya’ll want to policy lynch me go for it, I don’t really care my dude. Ya’ll expect rainbow reads and scum pinged on D1, that’s unreasonable as hell tbh.
 
So I noticed a couple people pointed out how I "defended" Tom when Ghostkid brought him up. lol. That was me simply pushing him to give more info as to why he sussed him in the first place, because all he said was that he had a "feeling." I was trying to make a point that we would need more posts from Tom, and we can't just go off a gut feeling that somebody is in the mafia.

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@Kammm most of my posts have been about punchy purely because I just want an answer to my question which he clearly saw. after that I'll stop targeting him. I'm starting my reads list in a few mins so don't bug me :mad: (directed at everyone)

Thanks for the quick response and I look forward to your reads list! Sorry to call you out but it's true that you haven't sussed anyone but punchy so far.
 
So I noticed a couple people pointed out how I "defended" Tom when Ghostkid brought him up. lol. That was me simply pushing him to give more info as to why he sussed him in the first place, because all he said was that he had a "feeling." I was trying to make a point that we would need more posts from Tom, and we can't just go off a gut feeling that somebody is in the mafia.

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Thanks for the quick response and I look forward to your reads list! Sorry to call you out but it's true that you haven't sussed anyone but punchy so far.
I dunno I would say trusting your gut is a major part of mafia, especially for folks with night actions. The only issue with trusting their gut when it comes to me though is that usually it’s always Tom is mafia. I don’t really care, I’ve got no reason to prove them otherwise and I can’t convince half of them anyways without some other stupid term being thrown about on how I’m scum. Let em voice it
 
I mean if ya’ll want to policy lynch me go for it, I don’t really care my dude. Ya’ll expect rainbow reads and scum pinged on D1, that’s unreasonable as hell tbh.

Yeah I'd rather not in case I'm wrong. I'm sure we'll have lots more time with you. :)
 
Rune is 98% town. His latest post harks back to the town leader of last game easily

I want to say that Kammm is likely town as well at this point
 
Honestly though I don't think the majority would follow me on a Ness lynch based on the reactions so far so if he's scum and this is AtE, it's a well done appeal. Personally I'm frustrated about it because he's been a very strong player in this last year or two and progressed a lot so I see this play as disappointing and jarring but idk if Toads argument with him broke him because it was just on top of irl stuff but at the same time nobody is obligated to share personal issues so they can explain themselves for a mafia game. Kinda makes me wish this was a PM game.

I think you should ask to be replaced by Vanessa tbh because I'm not going to hardrail against her before EoD anyways.

I might unvote Ness and leave myself open, but only open to the pool of Ryumia, katezilla, glow, Antonio, FireNinja, and maybe Tom if he just straight up doesn't give any reads. Not voting outside of that unless a significant bit of behavior from someone else shows up. It's going to be rough because I'd like to see some defenses from people in this list and it's gonna be hard to read all of them in those few minutes I might be able to spare before EoD but w/e.
 
I'd say we should stage an intervention to just policy lynch you and Oath whenever you rest on your blindly accepted laziness meta until you change your ways but the two of you rarely seem to play. Kayla probably wouldn't believe it when I say this but if she wants to lynch people who coast you two should be the ones to consider because we can be certain it doesn't have to do with being new to the game.

You're right I don't believe it. I would hardly say I'm coasting by. Literally within hours of the game I was forced into the spotlight and had to fight my way through, explaining why I wanted a lynch I suggested. Had I been guided I obviously wouldn't have been that dumb to gather that much attention onto myself immediately. Also, I was not aware and am still not fully aware of the way people play. You guys told me there are many more stronger players, so the typical lynching policy of 2014 no longer applies. Lynching players deemed to be useless was extremely common back then. On top of that, in all of my games I was a strong advocate for that. We were always left with useless sheep-like players at the end back then.

Here we go again though, someone bringjng up the whole "Kayla wants to lynch deadweights". Since you did, I need to bring this up:

I want to bring up two points that I think need to be reviewed:

-Inactives ( hear me out )
-Bandwagoners

Starting with my favourite topic: inactives.

At the beginning Dolby and I made such a big deal going back and forth on players who are useless at endgame / inactives. Literally everyone was screaming "omg we are not lynching inactives". So if we use a little reverse psychology .. wouldn't that give mafia a place to hide ? Players are literally saying what they won't do, at least for Day One lynch. Would that explain why people are being oddly quiet ? Help me out, people who know some of these players' play styles.

Now for bandwagoners .. there are moments in this game that stand out as moments where mafia members may have seen an opportunity to post at an attempt of hiding or blending in.

- People using fillers in their post against the way I wanted to lynch even though I had dropped it.

When I moved on from discussing the lynch and started calling people out, there was a mini wave of players who decided to rehash the arguments from the big debate. Specifically Dolby's statements. Now given that players had already mentioned that they were leaning Town for Dolby and that it appeared he was actively scum hunting. That could have been a way for them to sneak some Town credit through filler posts.


1. Several players bandwagoning against my lynching views

I truly believe certain players were filling up their posts with differently worded statements from the Dolby arguments. They were just repeating things to add content in my opinion. Considering he was openly discussed as leaning Town other players could definitely take the opportunity to mimic his behaviour / views in the thread to create seemingly pro-Town posts. Players that fall in this category for me are: mogyay, Ryumia and Toad a tiny bit. At the moment Toad is my least suspected.

This does not mean I am dropping the people I suspect from my previous post.
 
I mean if ya’ll want to policy lynch me go for it, I don’t really care my dude. Ya’ll expect rainbow reads and scum pinged on D1, that’s unreasonable as hell tbh.

But it's not unreasonable at all to expect you to air no suspicions at all. You know what? Not even asking for straight scumreads, I just want to know what you read as suspicious and why. If you fail to do even that, it's not even up to debate, you're a player with a decent number of games under your belt who is objectively coasting. If you're getting back into mafia, then get back into mafia. Otherwise don't join lol.
 
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