Mafia DA:I Mafia

[Dinosaurz]

((((
RIP people nooooo

 

[Trojan]

Ez win

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I just realised that I'm the only one awake because Australian time is weird

 

[Ashtot]

stop posting iF YOU'RE NOT PLAYING

then y r u posting lel

 

[Dinosaurz]

Ez win

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I just realised that I'm the only one awake because Australian time is weird

No it's 10:53am in Uk

 

[PandaDarling]

god d@mn it !!!!!! ok time to get REAL serious... im not taking this lightly.... 3 town killed in a flash, BS !! thats too many too fast.

 

[Dinosaurz]

god d@mn it !!!!!! ok time to get REAL serious... im not taking this lightly.... 3 town killed in a flash, BS !! thats too many too fast.

All we know you could be doing it
I don't trust anyone

 

[oath2order]

I still can't shake the feeling that something is off about Trojans mafia claim

 

[PandaDarling]

All we know you could be doing it
I don't trust anyone

thats fine Slammint i understand that you're weary... the same as i am. i dunno what the heck is going on

I still can't shake the feeling that something is off about Trojans mafia claim

im right there with you...

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what do you have to say slammint ? you're here im here ?

 

[Dinosaurz]

I don't trust Trojan.. Just decided to vote him. Until further evidence he is my number #1 suspect

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thats fine Slammint i understand that you're weary... the same as i am. i dunno what the heck is going on



im right there with you...

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what do you have to say slammint ? you're here im here ?

I was voting Trojan lol

 

[oath2order]

Before I do vote for Trojan, I want to know what his role is. No harm in telling us right Trojan?

 

[PandaDarling]

I don't trust Trojan.. Just decided to vote him. Until further evidence he is my number #1 suspect

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I was voting Trojan lol

what the heck are you saying cause you're making weird just like last game..

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acting *

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I don't trust Trojan.. Just decided to vote him. Until further evidence he is my number #1 suspect

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I was voting Trojan lol

slammint have you fallen into another mafia that you can't fill ? seriously...

 

[Dinosaurz]

what the heck are you saying cause you're making weird just like last game..

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acting *

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slammint have you fallen into another mafia that you can't fill ? seriously...

No my name is Mother Giselle and I am a townie...
This is my way of playing... I'm saying Trojan because I don't trust him

 

[PandaDarling]

roll*

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No my name is Mother Giselle and I am a townie...
This is my way of playing... I'm saying Trojan because I don't trust him

of course you're saying that now that his out

 

[Dinosaurz]

roll*

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of course you're saying that now that his out

What are you on about? Just cause I play like this doesn't mean I'm Mafia. I seriously don't trust Trojan therefore I am voting me, get a cop to do a scan on me then, I am innocent :/

 

[PandaDarling]

What are you on about? Just cause I play like this doesn't mean I'm Mafia. I seriously don't trust Trojan therefore I am voting me, get a cop to do a scan on me then, I am innocent :/

what the heck.... you are getting way too defensive for nothing ...

 

[oath2order]

Nobody asked your role slammint

 

[PandaDarling]

What are you on about? Just cause I play like this doesn't mean I'm Mafia. I seriously don't trust Trojan therefore I am voting me, get a cop to do a scan on me then, I am innocent :/

what ??? you're voting you ???

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look its 5:40 and I've been drinking i don't know what the heck you guys are talking about...

 

[Arstotzkan]

tf are you talking about here? Please point out the circular logic because you're misusing the term from what I can see. And my ISO was indeed just. A lot of it was meta, in that Ender was tunneling and he did the exact opposite in the last game I was in with him, where he was town (He ISO'd everyone and read them equally), but he hadn't been the same this game. I remained more against Daniel and by extension Ender because I read Trojan's nervousness as more authentic and immediate when I was grilling him, but I was wrong in that.

Basically, I did what I did because I thought that someone was leading town towards a mislynch and he was coming off as getting away with tunneling and needed to be called out on it, which made me wonder if he was consciously taking advantage of what town was allowing him to do. He told me that if he's being weird I should townread him and I should have, but why the heck should I have? I mean, had he not been right about Trojan and that lynch went through I'd call him an idiot. But he was right. : \

Between Daniel and Ender, you said we should vote Ender because he is dangerous. If we substitute dangerous for mafia, then you're basically qualifying itself using itself, no? "We should lynch Ender first because he is mafia". If you wanted for us to take it as "he's more suspicious than Daniel", then I think you should of explained that, because iirc you never said that one was more suspicious than the other. The only other way I can take it is "We should lynch him because he's the type of thing that should be lynched".

Also, I know you said he never payed attention, but since I called him out on it, he provided this:

Spoiler: Call me Daniel

Intro, not worth much.


Banter


Banter


Banter


Odd response? Still banter p much


Eh post.


Still banter. Also note: Daniel is a newer player, and so "I don't have scumreads" on early d1 shouldn't be particularly notable.


Second part is eh.


Response.


Reminiscing.


Defending Ahpo.


Pretty much what I expected from him after me flipping mafia last game in the first half. Last end bit is decent.


Returning to experience bias is irritating but not scummy.


Eh.


Interesting to note that they're commenting on Trojan's start being weird.


Or for missing like, 3 days straight, or less depending. But semantics.


Clarification.


Makes a joke out of Tom's post, but then comments they were suspicious for similar reasons?


Clarification.


Clarification. Tbh this post makes me feel better about the earlier one about Tom.


Contradicts himself with a "I was more going for townslips". Or maybe not? But it's really weird phrasing if not.


Banter.


One of the many questions to me about why trojan.


Eh.


Updating.


Okay post.


Makes sense.


Poking Labelle


Banter


Acknowledging his presence.


Questioning his lynch.

Conclusion:
Eh. He strikes me as REALLY eh. Tbh, this would be a fine Day 1 lynch for me. But at the same time, there's nothing that really strikes me as scummy?

Spoiler: Trojan

THIS POST. Okay so it's not a super scumtell or anything, but like, this post makes me think of how scum usually feel pressured to talk/participate.


Eh.


Banter.


Banter and information.


Okay this is like, a really EH post. I'm already willing to vote him over other people at this point.


Banter


Banter


Banter


This post is notable too. Really EH about his weird "Dad scares me" thing.


Backtracking.


Banter


Starts to respond to getting voted/poked.


Funny that he later votes Daniel.


Information.


Again, funny that he voted Daniel.


Banter


Banter


Odd post trying to deflect from suspicion on him.


Banter


He keeps repeating the "I'm not suspected" "Ender is voting me and I don't know why thing.


"I haven't posted anything scummy."


Apologises for being afk for a bit.


Information.


Banter.

Conclusion:
Nothing constructive. All banter, eh posts, or just plain scumtells.

This guy is my vote.

Tl;Dr
Daniel has been really EH but hasn't actually really pinged hard.

Meanwhile Trojan has been unproductive while being active, generally useless to town, and on top of that says he has no suspicion of Daniel at the moment and then votes him.

Which directly addressed both Daniel and Trojan, and why he found one more suspicious than the other. Up to that point where you stopped, I would have agreed with you that he was tunneling hard and ignoring everyone else. Hell, I was suspicious of him at that point until he clarified he was willing to look into Daniel, but was focusing on Trojan. And when I asked him to look into Daniel, he did.

Also about the townie thing:

Second question was somehow not seen whoops.

And, two things.

1. The comment about "Reading it as town because it's different" was a very obvious joke. (I thought the at the end would indicate that but okay.)

2. I'm tunnelling on things that people have acknowledged. There's been no one saying to my reasoning that "No that's not scummy at all!1!1!"

Because, well, it's scummy. And yes, there are other viable suspicions, but since when am I required to be someone who must preside over all the possible suspicions?

Also, tunnelling is not inherently scummy. Like, a lot of people do scummy things while tunnelling, but the act of tunnelling on a scumread is not scummy.

Sooo idk what to tell you. I don't like how you dismissed everything post-what you stopped at.

And meta is useful, sure, but we've only played two games with Ender. One was when he was Townie (Doc), and the other was when he was mafian. I'd hardly count the meta being reliable on him at this point. Also, your only two arguments for Ender was meta and how he didn't pay much attention to Daniel, whereas both Daniel and Trojan had a plethora of evidence against them that was more damning.

 

[Dinosaurz]

what ??? you're voting you ???

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look its 5:40 and I've been drinking i don't know what the heck you guys are talking about...

I mean him, I am voting him.

 

[PandaDarling]

sarsakat.. seriously I've been drinking tell what the heck you're say ?