Mafia DA:I Mafia

[Damniel]

Oh yay thanks for the mailbox Daniel

No problem, that mailbox was only useful when i was getting a ton of pms from the last game.

 

[N e s s]

I need to do my reads, I just don't want to tbh.

(also I know you didn't ask me)

 

[Damniel]

Oh yay thanks for the mailbox Daniel

No problem, the mailbox was only useful for when i was getting a ton of pms last game.

 

[oath2order]

i forgot to post this (thread got locked)

Tunnel aka focused on a singular player

oh

I don't remember much other than winning.

WOW *** u

 

[N e s s]

@Oath
Tom died :c

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Slammint I see you, you haven't answered my question on what your reads are.

 

[Damniel]

@Oath
Tom died :c

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Slammint I see you, you haven't answered my question on what your reads are.

that was my question but okay.
If she's looking for evidence for reads, that takes a really long time to type it all out.

 

[N e s s]

I asked to actually, ._.

 

[Dinosaurz]

@Oath
Tom died :c

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Slammint I see you, you haven't answered my question on what your reads are.

You asked me? Sorry I didn't see xD
I can do them now but I don't have too much evidence

 

[Damniel]

Not just waiting, we can also read back and look for the last mafian. And d2 ends Sunday so it's gonna be boring after a while.

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Can I get your reads on everyone? With evidence of course for who's scum.

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Me last game.

^^^

But yeah Slam, just try getting us some evidence.

 

[Dinosaurz]

^^^

But yeah Slam, just try getting us some evidence.

Ok get ready for me spending half an hour doing this cause that's how long it takes me, let me just put some good music on lmao

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So uh this is gonna take forever but meh reads! Gonna try and make it detailed as possible

Trojan- basically jumping on the bandwagon but super sketchy, either doesn't care at all or is Mafia. Or both, or he could just be trolling
Sarsakat- Not really suspicious of you but haven't town read you yet
Call me Daniel- kinda suspicious. But generally your cool
Pushreen the cat- Mahbe like when I played, a newbie is siding up with a pro

Pusheen what are you even doing. You're flip-flopping all over the place, yet you've said nothing. What gives?

As labelle said, she's doing nothing, maybe trying to avoid suspicion?
Dad- I'm suspicious of you because... Well nothing just my heart or something. Just you personality is too townie or something
Panda1376- not sure yet
Labellefleur- not sure
Capella- town read because they are getting mod killed and obviously would play more if Mafia
Ashtot- kinda suspect because the attitude

how on earth could you even think lynching ender would be a good idea

Blaming it on others to town read you? Hmm
Oath2order- is a one shot vig


Another idea! We were suspect of Tom, so maybe two noob mafias? Why else would you kill of a suspect

 

[Arstotzkan]

Oath2order- is a one shot vig

Eh? Where'd you get this?

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You sure you aren't thinking of Ender?

 

[N e s s]

Didn't put me in there but okay whatever.

I'm doing my reads right now, should be ready in an hour or so.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Slammint, can you explain some of your reads in more detail? Like for example, I haven't had time to look into Panda yet, but I've heard there's suspicion surrounding her. Why not her?

 

[Damniel]

Eh? Where'd you get this?

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You sure you aren't thinking of Ender?

Townslipped I think.

also what do you guys think of my suspects in my reads? AhPo only responded so I wanna know what you guys think.

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I think she townslipped*

 

[Geoni]

Between Daniel and Ender, you said we should vote Ender because he is dangerous. If we substitute dangerous for mafia, then you're basically qualifying itself using itself, no? "We should lynch Ender first because he is mafia". If you wanted for us to take it as "he's more suspicious than Daniel", then I think you should of explained that, because iirc you never said that one was more suspicious than the other. The only other way I can take it is "We should lynch him because he's the type of thing that should be lynched".

That's still not circular logic because what I also provided in this scenario was that either Daniel's lynch would provide information about Trojan and some other people who were really fiercely against him (people like LaBelle and Rune), or Trojan's lynch would provide information on Rune and Ender and to a smaller extent you in particular. Seeing that I prioritized Daniel's lynch over Trojan before I started looking into Ender because some of our meta conversations were bugging me, I treated Ender the same when I began to interpret his avoidance of talking about Daniel and protecting his self-vote reasoning as protecting Daniel. So it was an information lynch first and foremost: Daniel/Ender or Trojan? Trojan's behavior seemed more genuine at the time, like I've said three times before, I interpreted his 'Dad you're scaring me' posts as authentic nervousness due to it being the very beginning of the game and coming off as a personality impression (and maybe being a newer player). I interpreted Daniel's nervousness as backpedaling when criticism fell on him, which is a much more suspicious type of nervousness. Since I read into Ender's tunneling as protecting Daniel, I strongly suspected that they were a team and lynching either would provide some of the same information if I was suspecting they were aligned with each other. I said Ender was more dangerous because of how he was leading via tunneling. That's what I found dangerous about him and made me do an ISO investigation. By the end of that investigation, I felt more sure about Ender than I did about Daniel. Yes, I was wrong in my reads, but don't put words in my mouth here by accusing me of circular logic. If you want to continue to use that as a way to point me as scummy, then I deeply regret my previous read on you because that kind of reaching is worrisome.

Also about the townie thing:
Sooo idk what to tell you. I don't like how you dismissed everything post-what you stopped at.

And meta is useful, sure, but we've only played two games with Ender. One was when he was Townie (Doc), and the other was when he was mafian. I'd hardly count the meta being reliable on him at this point. Also, your only two arguments for Ender was meta and how he didn't pay much attention to Daniel, whereas both Daniel and Trojan had a plethora of evidence against them that was more damning.

I stopped where I stopped because I wanted to get what I thought were suspicious things out there so people didn't follow him and mislynch, there were like two hours before the lynch and no guarantee I'd be able to make people reconsider their votes. I'm very sure there was more I could have picked at if I completed the ISO, but I didn't feel there was enough time and doing what I did thus far was exhausting. I look into everything, even what people shrug off as 'banter', as if it could be significant. Like I said at the beginning of the game, everything you write and post in the thread is deliberate in one way or another.

As for your meta complaint? I used meta, yeah, but I don't use meta unless it's showing some very unusual behavior and posting style from earlier games when he was town. And much of my complaints about his campaign was the fact that he tunneled someone who was showing hesitance when Daniel was showing even more hesitance, if that's what you're going to base your vote on. At the end of the day, he might have been reading Daniel better than I was and that was his reasoning for ignoring talking about him, but that's a realization of mine that required a flip to happen which is why I'm still a bit frustrated about it.

 

[Dinosaurz]

Eh? Where'd you get this?

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You sure you aren't thinking of Ender?

It's a joke lol

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Didn't put me in there but okay whatever.

I'm doing my reads right now, should be ready in an hour or so.

Sorry

 

[Geoni]

Capella- town read because they are getting mod killed and obviously would play more if Mafia

You don't have enough experience with Capella to be saying that. She's very much the kind of mafia team member to sit on the sidelines and wait to post and vote until the modkill threat is there. Then again, she's also lazy as hell as town too. But yeah, don't townread her on that. The type of mafia who don't disrupt arguments against certain players that might lead to a mislynch are the most difficult ones to deal with in forum mafia. It's basically how SP, Alice, and I won the Portal mafia.

 

[Damniel]

You don't have enough experience with Capella to be saying that. She's very much the kind of mafia team member to sit on the sidelines and wait to post and vote until the modkill threat is there. Then again, she's also lazy as hell as town too. But yeah, don't townread her on that. The type of mafia who don't disrupt arguments against certain players that might lead to a mislynch are the most difficult ones to deal with in forum mafia. It's basically how SP, Alice, and I won the Portal mafia.

Haha, she's the kind that's like "Hmm I'm not mafia, so why bother" right?

 

[oath2order]

i forgot to post this (thread got locked)

@Oath
Tom died :c

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Slammint I see you, you haven't answered my question on what your reads are.

sigh

 

[Ashtot]

Haha, she's the kind that's like "Hmm I'm not mafia, so why bother" right?

no they're the kind that join a game and every time they do nothing regardless of their alignment or role