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Psychonaut
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Psychonaut
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... there's a difference?[Nook said:
it doesn't look like a pokemon.. it looks like a volcano with a happy face on it..
1/10.. i guess you tried, but it's really all one big brown blob.. which doesn't show that it's a tree/stump in any way, other than it's two "limbs"..
I don't understand how its anything but a volcano with a smiling face on it.. but eh. hope the next one (as i'm sure there'll be more) is better.
Psychonaut
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smogon IS competitive pokemon.
the reason the clauses (sleep, OHKO, and evasion are really the only ones that come to mind that are enforced in most places, honestly) exist are to balance gameplay and to open new, fair teams.
if garchomp was on every team, then no team would be truly unique, and if a team strayed from using/countering garchomp, they would be at a severe disadvantage, which is why he (and last i heard of, salmence) are banned from competitive play, in smogon's books.
whoever you're playing with can go by any rules, smogon's are just the most tested, and most trusted.
hypnosis was never banned, but having two pokemon asleep is what the sleep clause is, when used. I highly recommend you play by it, as a team with a fast persian/crobat is hard enough with one pokemon guaranteed to be asleep.
though platinum's dropping hypnosis' accuracy by 10% made it a lot less viable.. there's still the likes of jumpluff and roserade using sleep powder.
tl;dr, clauses exist to keep the game balanced. garchomp was made uber by smogon's standards because of testing, not just because they didn't like him. there are too many ways to use and abuse garchomp's massive stats and movepool to consider him anything but uber, whether or not he fares well in the tier.
as for salamence: draco meteor + choice specs wrecks anything not named blissey.
as for evasion, enjoy fighting a blissey that uses minimize, or any pokemon in the game (except magikarp and feebas, i believe) double teaming up on you and being untouchable.
strategies like evasion and OHKO are cheap, because all it takes is using a pokemon with the stats to abuse that one move, instead of crafting a team that can focus on one aspect or theme, such as stall or pure offensive blitz.
but eh.
the reason the clauses (sleep, OHKO, and evasion are really the only ones that come to mind that are enforced in most places, honestly) exist are to balance gameplay and to open new, fair teams.
if garchomp was on every team, then no team would be truly unique, and if a team strayed from using/countering garchomp, they would be at a severe disadvantage, which is why he (and last i heard of, salmence) are banned from competitive play, in smogon's books.
whoever you're playing with can go by any rules, smogon's are just the most tested, and most trusted.
hypnosis was never banned, but having two pokemon asleep is what the sleep clause is, when used. I highly recommend you play by it, as a team with a fast persian/crobat is hard enough with one pokemon guaranteed to be asleep.
though platinum's dropping hypnosis' accuracy by 10% made it a lot less viable.. there's still the likes of jumpluff and roserade using sleep powder.
tl;dr, clauses exist to keep the game balanced. garchomp was made uber by smogon's standards because of testing, not just because they didn't like him. there are too many ways to use and abuse garchomp's massive stats and movepool to consider him anything but uber, whether or not he fares well in the tier.
as for salamence: draco meteor + choice specs wrecks anything not named blissey.
as for evasion, enjoy fighting a blissey that uses minimize, or any pokemon in the game (except magikarp and feebas, i believe) double teaming up on you and being untouchable.
strategies like evasion and OHKO are cheap, because all it takes is using a pokemon with the stats to abuse that one move, instead of crafting a team that can focus on one aspect or theme, such as stall or pure offensive blitz.
but eh.
well ive been using smogon standards but its soon gonna change in 5th gen cuz I bet you that there will be a pokemon in Isshuu that is like Garchomp and it will start all over again.I have found stategies that dont include sleep double team and all those other things.In 5th gen there is a pokemon that makes Garchomp look like skitty(really).But now its my team of the ages (as ive dubbed them)that i use.It can accually set up an Unkown(yeah really Unkown)sweep.sorry if i got of topic there.the Unkown sweep thing has been done on youtube,mines not the same but still credit goes to him.
Psychonaut
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if a single pokemon or strategy is considered broken enough to be on every team, and has the ability to break the tiers as they exist, then it will be banned or considered uber.williamd said:
@ bacon boy, you can still play the game however you want, just don't expect everyone to wanna play with you
Psychonaut
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just being legendary doesn't grant instant uber..williamd said:
take shaymin or celebi, for example. or literally every one of the legendary trio pokemon.
the best one of each is OU, but none of them are uber material.
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