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Happiest Season, does anyone share my rage? >:( (Contains Spoilers)

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So I just watched Happiest Season, the new Christmas movie featuring Dan Levy, Kristen Stewart, Mackenzie Davis, Aubrey Plaza, Alison Brie, etc.
Essentially, it focuses on Kirsten Stewart's character, a young woman who spends Christmas at her girlfriend's family's house, only to discover her partner hasn't yet come out to her conservative parents. It actually began as quite a good, funny, beautiful and very well cast film.

But god, what a HORRIBLE ending for this film. This was like, the complete opposite of a 'feel-good' Christmas movie. I felt that the 'happy ending' was rushed, and encouraged and normalised a lot of toxic relationship behaviours. Stewart and Davis' relationship made me feel so, so icky, reinforcing the idea that 'as long as you apologise, true love always prevails!'... no matter how horribly you were treated.

Before I rant anymore, I just need someone to share my rage ;; Please tell me I'm not the only one!
 
“encouraged and normalised a lot of toxic relationship behaviors”

Sadly that’s most family time type films and media. So it doesn’t surprise me. Coming from a bad family situation and having to separate from it, you’d be surprised how many people still encourage you to go back to an abusive and toxic situation just because. So, ultimately it’s in our culture and many others.
Definitely a good dialogue to have though and recognize. Hopefully it changes in the future.
 
Oof I definitely have some feelings about this movie. Trying to summarize them is proving to be a challenge as my initial reply was so long.

General thoughts regarding the movies plot - I was a little bit bummed that this was another coming out story. I know coming out stories are important but I’d really like to have a nice true lesbian (or any LGBTQ+! But as a lesbian I want WLW content a little more haha) romantic comedy where the main story is just a cheesy romance that happens to have two same sex leads. That there’s not a focus on, “ooooh they’re gay though! We have to talk about the struggles of being gay!” I know there are struggles when it comes to being gay. I have to deal with those IRL so can I please just watch some cute rom coms that show me a world where nobody bats an eye at my gay couples? Hopefully Clea Duvall will continue directing and give us some more light hearted movies in the future!

With the story itself there are definitely some issues. Harper is... a mess. I want to believe this version we have of Harper is a very special, “I’m home with my conservative parents in a toxic household so I’m reverting back to my awful teenage self without meaning too,” version of her but we never get to see the other side of her? And I think that hurts the movie greatly. I want to see why Abby loves Harper so much, I want to see what makes them work, show me why Abby was ready to propose to her!

The way Harper treated Abby was inexcusable. Could I try to explain/justify her reasons for her actions? Sure. But that doesn’t make what she did okay. I think the movie needed to be longer or something because it wasn’t well rounded enough? I wanted to see more of Abby & Harper pre-Christmas and I wanted to see how their relationship bounced back if they were determined to go that route. It definitely felt like an “oh snap we’ve got 20 minutes left, let’s wrap this up people!!” Sort of ending.

I don’t think Abby & Riley should’ve ended up together, no matter how wonderful Riley was. I don’t think Abby would’ve done that to Harper, and I think a lot of the chemistry we saw them have was
A.) Aubrey Plaza & Kristen Stewart just having chemistry together honestly lol
B.) Abby & Riley’s characters were both able to be themselves when around each other. So they had that more relaxed vibe because they weren’t hiding any part of themselves (at least not the gay part), so it was easier for things to just feel more romantic, in my opinion?

I could go on but I feel like this is getting really long again 😅
 
“encouraged and normalised a lot of toxic relationship behaviors”

Sadly that’s most family time type films and media. So it doesn’t surprise me. Coming from a bad family situation and having to separate from it, you’d be surprised how many people still encourage you to go back to an abusive and toxic situation just because. So, ultimately it’s in our culture and many others.
Definitely a good dialogue to have though and recognize. Hopefully it changes in the future.

Totally :( In fairness, I think as a writer, especially within family-comedy, it can be tricky to display relatable and comical family behaviours, without addressing some toxic family behaviours. But as you say, the issue with this is when these behaviours become normalised.

Oof I definitely have some feelings about this movie. Trying to summarize them is proving to be a challenge as my initial reply was so long.
Can I please just watch some cute rom coms that show me a world where nobody bats an eye at my gay couples?
THIS. I also completely agree that coming out stories are important (I mean, it was actually the first coming out movie my, conservative catholic, mum watched, despite there being tons out there). But I'm getting bored of the queer stories told in the 'look what we had to do to get here!!!' world. It tends to normalise unacceptance and desensitise audiences from these behaviours.

I want to see why Abby loves Harper so much, I want to see what makes them work, show me why Abby was ready to propose to her!
MORE CONTEXT THAN BREAKFAST IN BED, PLEASE. I needed to know WHY Abby was able to forgive Harper, and I do not want to accept that this was purely because Abby is just 'too nice' and 'in love'. Whilst Harper did treat Abby so, so horribly, expanding on her valuable and loving traits (esp, to Abby) would have made her a much less hateable character. Again, super rushed ending too, with little explanation of what led Abby to follow through with the proposal.

The way Harper treated Abby was inexcusable. Could I try to explain/justify her reasons for her actions? Sure. But that doesn’t make what she did okay.
TWO REALLY HORRIBLE POINTS THAT MADE ME SO, SO ANGRY (if i had to pick...lol)
1) When Harper looked at Abby like 'look! I did it! (Came out to her parents).' This made me feel sick to the core, as if Harper doing this would fix everything. Her child-like demand for validation obviously comes from a deep sense of insecurity and immaturity, and we can understand this through her context, but god, what a horrible, gut wrenching scene.
2) When Harper went to beg for Abby back, John (? I think, whatever Dan Levy's character is) whispering and gesturing to Abby to 'do it' and take her back. WHAT. I THOUGHT YOU WERE HER FRIEND? You just saw your friend get absolutely ripped to pieces and that is your response??? How horrific. In saying this though, I did appreciate and understand his walk in the snow chat with Abby about the importance of understanding different privileges and circumstances in coming out, and therefore the difference between Abby and Harper. However, because of the whole 'do it' push, it then felt like this meaningful and constructive conversation was actually used to guilt trip Abby into giving Harper 'another chance'. In reality, this conversation should have convinced Abby that she could (but under no obligation to) continue to be there for Harper as a friend, whilst also seeking a more accepting, open and honest relationship with someone else.
I don’t think Abby & Riley should’ve ended up together
As much as I love Riley (like, can i have her), I think that Abby and Riley would have been better as friends, and if anything, wayyy down the line, something more. I think they needed each other at that moment to validate each other's horrible experiences in the way Harper treated them. I think that together, they were also important for Harper's growth to force her to reflect and acknowledge the pain she has inflicted on two wonderful people; who despite this, did not antagonise Harper and instead supported her.

As a Schitts Creek watcher, I think that the reason I was so frustrated about this movie was because, although I should have low expectations for a chummy christmas movie, it felt SO backwards for a Dan Levy movie. I know he had no involvement in writing or producing, but I just can't believe that his character reinforced such toxic behaviours in this movie, when his own show paved the way for the opposite. This movie made me feel really icky, but also.. betrayed? I just expected so much better from him. I'm obviously taking this way too personally, hahaha. On top of this, it just feels weird watching him in a show he created, which is set in a context where queer relationships are almost fully normalised.

Have I said too much? Probably, and even then I have so many other thoughts. Just, this film really rubbed me the wrong way and I don't think I'll be able to get over it for a while, hahaha. :(
 
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