Mafia Mystic Messenger Mafia [Endgame]

is this your classic sprinkle of AtE to get the sus off u

I literally have no control of my AtE tbh... it just kind of happens
when I did use it in that one game where I was mafia, I just let my body take control and do it for me lol
 
I tried literally everything in the book to come across as town in those last 5 games... so you could scum read me on meta for literally anything I do :(

Hence my defeatist attitude and crude nature rn. I'd hope you'd be able to see my actual effort I'm trying to put into deciphering who is what though....

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10/10 best strat ever

That was prob my worse game. I just always feel like you're scum BC you're always using a lot of ate.
 
I have to go to work for the day, but I will be back tonight
Also I work wednesday evening so I will not be around for EoD as a heads up
I honestly think Daniel is the scummiest so far tbh

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That was prob my worse game. I just always feel like you're scum BC you're always using a lot of ate.

I always think you are scum because of that game you just linked... so i've started to just not pay attention to you until at least day 2, because otherwise I just always want to vote you
 
I've never played w/ Daniel iirc but yes I am getting some weird vibes from him just not sure if that's how he is or it's something ~more~
 
Finishing my thought

FN1 if you were actually joking about jester you should have said that straight away instead of letting us waste so much time discussing that

Honestly can someone just shoot him N1 like we either kill a jester, scum, or bad town and I'm fine with that
 
I have to go to work for the day, but I will be back tonight
Also I work wednesday evening so I will not be around for EoD as a heads up
I honestly think Daniel is the scummiest so far tbh

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I always think you are scum because of that game you just linked... so i've started to just not pay attention to you until at least day 2, because otherwise I just always want to vote you

fair, I did play very bad in that game.

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my thoughts

Bianca feels like town do to her calm tone.
Ness posts feel commanding scum lean
I think jester is in Oliver or FireNinja
Dad is likely scum in the Dolby/ Dad interactions but I'm thinking it could be Dad.
Dolby seems to be playing his usual town meta.
Amazon feels town to me, playing like his town meta.
anyone I didn't talk about is null for right now. Need more posts from them.

Vote will likely be in Dad or Ness.

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@Dolby any new thoughts on the game?
 
Not really feeling anything new today. I am feeling somewhat better about Evan, since those were the reads of someone who skimmed a bunch of stuff, and a bit better about Ness for the sole reason that he used the same reasoning as me (which shows a town mindset). Gonna have to reread some interactions once I get home
 
Dad is likely scum in the Dolby/ Dad interactions but I'm thinking it could be Dad. - that makes no sense kirb think u made a mistake. Usually day 1 im struggling but i think theres a lot of interesting stuff going on. Im gonna go to bed rn but will start writing reads when im up

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Actually maybe im tired and didnt understand but if dad is less likely scum then why are u thinking he's the scum in that interaction?

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Ok totally read that wrong omg my apologies go to bed mog
 
In this post, you ignore the readily availible information which I handily provided you, put words in my mouth about how you smallpost, how I represent your meta, and accuse me of picking games to fit my case. And frankly, at the end this is one step away from OMGUS

Uh, no, it's not OMGUS, it's me pointing out that you're trying to pick games to fit a case that is based purely on your hunch that if somebody's meta is different as they return that they're sure to be scum because of it. That, combined with the fact that you're acting like I'm not reading or listening to the points you bring up against me when believe it or not I am, makes it seem like you're trying to illustrate me as being thoughtless. Which is of course what you'd want to do as scum.

Either way, you're not going to be successful anyways. No way in hell am I going to let myself be the day one lynch because either you're scum who is grabbing the town leader role as fast as you can in order to seem pro-town as one possibly can or town who is in love with the idea that looking at one facet of meta will actually get you a successful day 1 mafia lynch.

Also, you asked if I played mafia since I left and so I was checking my epicmafia and my memory was wrong, definitely played more games than two since I stopped mafia playing on tbt but I forgot the profile shows only scored games and I'm pretty sure I played a couple of unranked as well. But that's chat mafia anyways, not forum mafia, so it's a whole other demon.

I'm seriously close to voting you but a lot of your posting seems to come from being cocky, especially since you seem to be one of the few very experienced players still playing here, so I'm worried that again, you're bad town who thinks meta would be the key to making a successful case against me, so you're pulling all the examples out of my many games as you can to try and make it happen because people still probably sheepvote day 1 here if they see somebody doing a bunch of work and they won't have to.

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But that would also be very scum 'townleadery' of you to do as well so either way I don't like it.

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Oliver's huge post is low key concerning for a newbie, it reminds me a bit of how Kat coached me my first game in scum chat first time I was scum.

I think that oliver said this is their first game so if feel suspicions just because she makes a big post and feel the need to air that suspicion like this, it's disregarding that they may not be the kind of first-time player a lot of players turn out to be and is actually the type of person to make an effort to provide their reads. In my first game here I actually provided reads (although they weren't hard because that maf team used very basic framing tactics), and I didn't even need the help of a coach who only said like two things to me in PMs that were along the lines of 'you're doing good' and 'just stay active an you'll be good'. Anyways, this seemed to be a kinda shallow thing to pick at Ness, oliver still seems transparent despite that big post.
 
forgive me senpai they were made on mobile :tboi:

ok now for real content

-i honestly dont think fn1 is jester
-townleans atm are bianca ness dolby amazon in order of strongest to least
-null on everyone else

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wow i just realized thats nothing

like 56 pages and thats all i got smh ok brb trying harder

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ok im voting toads cuz he's being idk weirdly defensive

also i wanna see how he reacts / rages to this

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ok jk theres honestly nothing other than dolby vs (insert person here) and jester claimfests

This seemed pretty quick when you said you'd try harder, then in your next post merge you end up going after toad because their being weirdly defensive, then you say 'ok jk' and say there's nothing but my fight with Dolby and the jester claims but you have townleans based on other things obviously.

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sorry about that oliver!
 
Anyways, the reason I pretended to be jester in the beginning was just because I was curious. I was wondering what would happen if I did. It was a little bit to test everyone's reactions, but mostly because I was (and still am) trying to understand how this game works.

I'm generally a careful guy, and I wouldn't be so bold as to claim jester if I were actually mafia.

I promise that I am town.

Anyways, I'd say that my biggest scumreads rn are Toadsworthy and Ness. I think Dad is probably scum, too.

My biggest townreads are Zendel and KermitTea. I think Dolby might be town, too.

I used to think that Dad and Dolby were both scum and that their bickering was to distract from that, but I think they're both just super touchy LOL

I think that FireNinja1 is the jester. Even when he got three votes for himself, he didn't back down. I don't think a mafia member would be that ballsy.

I changed my vote to Toadsworthy, though, so he only has two votes now.

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Thanks for the apology, Dad.

Damn, that's not the first time I've said that. lol
 
Okay, still catching up. Ness posts feel commanding imo, scumlean for him. Dolby feels like playing his usual self. So I think dad is scum out of the Dolby V Dad interactions. Going to post a reads list later today.

Dolby can change his meta if he's that much of a researcher to think my meta = me being scum, so that's a pretty lazy siding. Everything about your play so far is lazy but not in a pro-town kind of way, or somebody being a genuine newb, but somebody who is posting little things to seem like they're contributing their opinions without having to say too much. People saying you've played a decent amount of games raises flags for me too because I hesitate to classify your posting style so far as being lazy out of being new to the game, more lazy for other reasons.

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Anyways, the reason I pretended to be jester in the beginning was just because I was curious. I was wondering what would happen if I did. It was a little bit to test everyone's reactions, but mostly because I was (and still am) trying to understand how this game works.

I'm generally a careful guy, and I wouldn't be so bold as to claim jester if I were actually mafia.

I promise that I am town.

Anyways, I'd say that my biggest scumreads rn are Toadsworthy and Ness. I think Dad is probably scum, too.

My biggest townreads are Zendel and KermitTea. I think Dolby might be town, too.

I used to think that Dad and Dolby were both scum and that their bickering was to distract from that, but I think they're both just super touchy LOL

I think that FireNinja1 is the jester. Even when he got three votes for himself, he didn't back down. I don't think a mafia member would be that ballsy.

I changed my vote to Toadsworthy, though, so he only has two votes now.

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Thanks for the apology, Dad.

Damn, that's not the first time I've said that. lol

Very curious as to why you townread kermit out of everyone so far. Don't blame your Ness scum reads because I can see points of view against him, but why toad? And of course, why me outside of any Dolby nonsense which I will continue to give little to no credit to.
 
I'm gonna address what Dad said in full once I get home (in 4 hours), but I'm gonna say a few things real quick
1. Pretty sure FN1 backed down last night
2. Dad, if I can be seen as guilty of that selectively reading to manipulate a case, you definitely are guilty of the same crime. You pretty much ignored my references quote of you about FOSing Oliver, especially since you now seem to be ignoring what I said about it.
3. I think that the scum games I provided are perfectly fine for meta, though I will concede that there was a more recent game large with you as town(Shadowrun I think), looking at the wiki
4. Still uncomfortable with Ness
 
Kermit just seems like they (don't know their pronouns) are actually trying to read everyone. A mafiosa wouldn't really care.

Ness is super scummy lol no doubt about it

Toad because it seems like he's trying really, really hard not to get emotional. He said that he's usually emotional, and he hasn't been during this game. A townie would be upset at a false accusation, and he'd have no reason to restrain his emotions unless he was scum.

Actually, after rereading my notes, I'm not sure if you're scum. I'm null on you.

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Also, for anyone wondering why I took so many notes- I'm autistic. It makes it difficult for me to read people sometimes.

This game is like autism hell, lol. I love it.
 
I tried literally everything in the book to come across as town in those last 5 games... so you could scum read me on meta for literally anything I do :(

Hence my defeatist attitude and crude nature rn. I'd hope you'd be able to see my actual effort I'm trying to put into deciphering who is what though....

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10/10 best strat ever

I'm gonna guess people voting against toad are talking about this post. Out of everything on the table, voting for him over just this seems dumb, I don't blame a person for feeling defeatist after being scum all the time.

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...-Mafia-Day-1&p=7518637&viewfull=1#post7518637

Also this moment didn't come off as defeatist though. This was defensive but it was also logical and brought up a good point.
 
I didn't even see that post until morning, actually, so that's not the post I was thinking about.

I'm not thinking about any post in particular tbh. It's just a general vibe I get from him.

Plus, I trust that Kermit is town, and Kermit voted off Toad, too. We both think that Toad is scum.

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You defending Toad seems a bit scummy. I think he's scum, and if you're defending him, then you might be his teammate.

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One last thing- the mafia doesn't know who the jester is, right? Or do they?

Toad voted for FN1, so that's why I'm wondering.
 
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