Need Shop Advice

Stella-Io

Chasing Luna MothWings
Joined
Mar 3, 2018
Posts
7,616
Bells
943
Cosmic Radioactive Orbiting Spectral #20
Festival Lantern
Plum Blossom
Fortune Cookie
Night Sky Scenery
Snowstorm Scenery
Playful Scenery
Holiday Candy Cane 2023
Stitches
Friday the 13th Candy
While I have seen that the museum shop thread has been slow, I would still like to add a bit of traffic to my shop. I started it about a month ago thinking it would just burn out, and it kinda has. But I actually do want to improve and draw more, so far I've been pretty good at drawing constantly, usually I want to do somethin but give-up after a while.

I know some things I should do are add more reference material and be quicker with my orders. One thing I want to do is keep people updated on their order, what stage it's in, why it's taking longer than it should, maybe somethin delayed me ect... I would like to add more options. I like drawing bust shots and all, but not everyone wants that. So far I'm thinking of Pok?mon, mermaids, dudes (so hard to draw ;_; ) & Inklings, but are there any other race/body types I'm leaving out? Anythin that's vastly different from simple humans.

Also any other shop advice is greatly appreciated. Pricing, communication, the way it's run in general, order forms, basically anythin you think I should do (or should not be doing if I am). One question I have, how often should I bump it? I don't want to do it daily and make myself look desperate or petty, but I'm not entirely sure how often is too often or not often enough.
 
You don't owe people an explanation as to why your order is taking time. I suggest taking the tbt when the picture is finished, but before you deliver them, this way you can take your time. Because to be frank, drawing for tbt is drawing for free. It's currency you can get for free, it's virtual, people don't need to be rushing artists when an artist is drawing them something FOR FREE.

Looking at your shop the first post is very long. I think if you can get the point more concisely it might be more inviting, honestly in terms of your rule section, you can boil it down to : "request a drawing and I'll let you know if I can do it! I won't draw anything that breaks forum rules so nothing inappropriate thank you." I think also posing the shop as practice is helpful too, people will know that you're practicing, so won't request anything crazy, but will also have realistic expectations. Your prices are very, very low. I would personally advise changing to a pwyw shop, or freebies with encouraged tipping. You're charging people basically a single post on this website, I honestly think if you change it to pwyw or tipping, people will pay more. I've done freebies in the past (like 2014 lol) and if you encourage tipping sometimes people will tip like 100 bells, way more than what you're asking. Of course, 2014 was a different time on the board too, more activity on the whole.

Other than that, I think you need to make your examples more accessible. I suggest creating an 'art' tag on your art posts on tumblr, and pointing people to that tag for all your work, so they can see your stuff up to current.

Next is about the more practical side of how you capture your pictures. It looks like you're doing it by electric light, and personally I think you could capture them better. The key is making sure you use natural light (so a window) and that you taking the picture are opposite from the light source, this way your art will have no shadow. Also, I'm going to assume your phone has an photo editing feature for cropping and adjusting saturation? A few tips I have with this are, avoid drawing too close to the edge of the page, this way you can always crop your picture to make it stand out on it's own. Also, I see in the post you currently have linked as an example, there's three images of the same picture, I would really advise against doing this, as it's less concise and honestly can confuse the viewer. I know that sounds dumb, how would it confuse them? but its more it's less inviting to the eyes. Also! Really try avoid flash if you can, I'm not sure if it's just your electric lighting, but a flash on pencil lead will make it really shiny and weird looking in a photo.

Now, I know this isn't related to the shop itself, but I will give a few tips on capturing clear photos as well. One thing that is immediately apparent is that you're often drawing using blunt pencils. This makes the image look muggy and dirty, and because the point of contact with the paper is also larger, erasing sketch lines of a blunt pencil is more difficult. I heartily suggest you invest in a few items. A mechanical pencil (0.5 is standard) a lining pen (these can vary but again, 0.5, 0.3, and even 0.1 are commonly used). Learning to use a lining pen, and become confident in your linework, is a very useful skill and will also translate extremely well to digital work, if you choose to do that down the line. These items shouldn't be too expensive and I honestly think you could probably find a lining pen, and a mechanical pencil for under 5 bucks. I use Faber castell. You can get cheap mechanical pencil refills also! you don't have to buy a new pencil every time the lead runs out, just make sure your pencil and replacement match!

I really like your headshots! you show good signs of improvement! Try not to tie your confidence in your art to how much interest others are showing, this is a serious pitfall for any artist. The only thing you can do is keep striding forward.

I don't really know about bumping, but if you turned it into a freebie thread, you could bump it every time you draw a new picture. Even if it's not someones request, bumping with a fresh pic also reminds people what you draw.

Also, good job not shying away from drawing guys! I did that for a long time and it really came back to bite me in the ass lmao. Keep in mind a lot of people will also only request female mayors/ocs, so you have to consistently also self motivate into drawing men.

I'm sorry I went on and on and on hahaha. Best luck and keep drawing. I think I will make a request in your shop... I hope you're ready! If you feel like there's anything else you want help with don't hesitate to pm me if you want, or like this and I can come back and check if you responded, really whatever works.

If you genuinely want to make a lot of tbt, I suggest working on mayors and villagers, because once that switch game hits I can assure you those requests will be coming in hot. But honestly drawing people generally will help, even with the villagers and they're basically just people with really weird heads. Good luck!

Edit! Also I think 7 slots are too many. I think 3-4 slots is better. Even if all 7 slots are empty, 3-4 is more manageable. If you have 7 people waiting, and each picture can take a few days, the the seventh person could be waiting a few weeks. Waiting isn't usually a problem, but I still think simply having less slots is easier to manage.
 
Last edited:
Lots of great advice, much appreciated!

The art tag does remind me, I tag my art when I post on tumblr and twitter with 'Drawings by Jeri' & 'Jeri Draws' -the last one gets used on twitter, due to character limit- cause I couldn't decide which tag to use. I recently learned how to filter the tags -I'm so slow with tech- so I'm def gonna use them now as reference material.

With the lighting I'm glad you brought it up because I do take alot of the pics in my room, electric lighting, usually at night so I need the light to be on. But when I go to take the pic, my cruddy phone usually can't focus for whatever reason, and using the flash makes it focus. But as you said using natrual light, I was taking some pictures outside the other day and my phone had zero problem focusing, the pictures came out pretty well.

The first post, yup, definitely agree is really long. I have a tendency to over type, as I want to be precise and get my pint clearly across. I'm probably doing it right now.

I actually used to draw exclusively with mechanical pencil, I didn't like the feel of regular pencils in my hand. I used BIC .7 lead, until I bought some artist pencils. I mean I think they're called that. They came in a 3 pack with 2B, 4B & 6B leads. When I got home and tested them out, I had hoped the 2B lead would be lighter, but it erases better then the lead pens I used. I've been hearing about the Faber Castell brand, so next time I'm at the craft store, I will be looking into that, along with some other tools like their colored pencils, a water brush and a lining pen. I used to use Pilot pens but the ink takes quite a while to dry fully so I don't smudge the drawing.

Anythin I didn't mention I will be sure to take in as well, looks like my shop is gonna get a major face lift sometime soon. Thank you again for taking the time to type out and elaborate and such great advice :)
 
Last edited:
Hi, I like that your shop has a pricing guide. Generally I’m scared of pay what you like since I never know if my offers might insult someone.

I see that it’s very hard to get to the examples though. I would maybe add a header or spoiler tag, and show the examples on the thread. Generally if I don’t see examples on an art shop, I tend to not skip over since I don’t know what I’m paying for.

Also like warrior mentioned, maybe try and summarize the first post a little. Too much information can be startling all at once.
 
Back
Top