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Since the game thread was locked, I only felt like it was appropriate to apologize and explain my side of what happened, since a lot of my frustration right now is everyone isn't getting the full story, and what went on during the entirety of the game.
So.
To entropy, I truly am sorry you felt attacked in this game and what happened day 4 and onwards. If you are going to stop playing because of me, don't worry about that, because I don't plan to keep playing if other people are quitting just because of me.
To Minties, I'm sorry this ruined your game - I really have no better way of saying this. I really should have left it to you, as the host, to figure out who was cheating, and keep my mouth shut but I didn't.
To Miharu/wild blue yonder, I'm sorry this was your first game and this bs happened - I can promise this does not happen in every single game, and I hope it didn't affect how you view the game in general.
To everyone else who sees me in a negative way, I'm sorry. I'm a hypocrite and I really have no justification for it.


& Assuming all of you are probably looking at me in a negative way, and it's kind of obvious nobody really wants that, I only felt like it's needed to explain my side of the story.
So I'll just start off by saying I was already pretty paranoid early in the game the entire mafia team was leaked, and if you read the mafia chat it was kind of obvious I was. I left it to Minties to figure out who that was, and I kept my mouth shut, up until the end of day 4 where I vented to someone (Cory) and I highly regret doing so. Cory didn't cheat - I did, and I understand fully by doing that I was being a hypocrite but I guess my frustrations just got the best of me.
So, if any of you are going to be mad towards someone it's ME and not him. What went on between him and entropy in game I'm not going to comment on, but it frustrates me that he's getting all of the blame, when I was the one who talked to him about the game. I expressed my frustrations without him being asked for it, and that's all me. There's reasons, that I won't say because it's irrelevant to this game, as to why I think other people cheated. I accused entropy of cheating to Cory when I had no evidence, and in the way I told him made it seem like I did. Hence Cory's obvious frustration and game-throwing/mod killing himself. I took the entire situation with entropy and Cory probably in the worst way, and I really don't know how I can explain why I did, maybe because it was just a bad situation.
 
Thank you for taking the time to apologize and explain your point of view, Chrystina.
 
ok

- - - Post Merge - - -

also do you really think other people cheated it was kinda irrelevant to put that line it seem like blame shifting but idrc so ?\_(ツ)_/?
 
We're all human, we all get frustrated, emotional, and make mistakes I hope this doesn't keep you from ever playing another game here with us. Live, learn, grow and move on. I think the apology is nice of you, hopefully this doesn't get you down too much. Xo
 
it's rly nice that u took the time to make this thread & apologize, i have no hard feelings against you chrys <3
 
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Your behavior among others in that game does give me a horrible impression of this subforum, yes. I hope you can learn from this.
 
I appreciate you apologizing to us , I'm willing to forgive you for that. I'm still not sure how I feel about playing games with you, but I can forgive you as a person, just not as a player yet. Just learn that it's not your place to meddle with a host's affairs, or else this will happen.

Cory on the other hand, I feel differently about. While Chrys did admit to being the one who started the fire, Cory was the one that made it burn everything. Not only did he greatly insult a player, but he lost the respect I held for him during this whole ordeal.

You should not be the one apologizing for his actions, Cory should. What he did and said is extremely infuriating to En and to anyone else involved. I have yet to see him write an actual apology besides a half assed "I'm sorry" and I just can't get over that. I know I was not a part of this whole situation, but his actions and words to others affects me personally. Cory derailed the whole game and that's his fault, not Chrys's. Own up to your actions Cory.

Overall, I'm willing to forgive Chrys. I'm indifferent on Cory. But in all honestly, I don't feel comfortable playing with both of you, especially with both of you in the same game. I don't intend on rejoining the server, and I don't plan on signing up for a game on TBT anytime time soon. I just lost the motivation to play after all this drama.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Also Wild Blue and Miharu, I'm really sorry you were caught in all of this. This isn't how TBT mafia usually is. I really hope you play more games, because you're really great players and you give me hope of improving this subforum.
 
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I appreciate you apologizing to us , I'm willing to forgive you for that. I'm still not sure how I feel about playing games with you, but I can forgive you as a person, just not as a player yet. Just learn that it's not your place to meddle with a host's affairs, or else this will happen.

Cory on the other hand, I feel differently about. While Chrys did admit to being the one who started the fire, Cory was the one that made it burn everything. Not only did he greatly insult a player, but he lost the respect I held for him during this whole ordeal.

You should not be the one apologizing for his actions, Cory should. What he did and said is extremely infuriating to En and to anyone else involved. I have yet to see him write an actual apology besides a half assed "I'm sorry" and I just can't get over that. I know I was not a part of this whole situation, but his actions and words to others affects me personally. Cory derailed the whole game and that's his fault, not Chrys's. Own up to your actions Cory.

Overall, I'm willing to forgive Chrys. I'm indifferent on Cory. But in all honestly, I don't feel comfortable playing with both of you, especially with both of you in the same game. I don't intend on rejoining the server, and I don't plan on signing up for a game on TBT anytime time soon. I just lost the motivation to play after all this drama.

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Also Wild Blue and Miharu, I'm really sorry you were caught in all of this. This isn't how TBT mafia usually is. I really hope you play more games, because you're really great players and you give me hope of improving this subforum.

Well I already said I don't plan on playing anymore games if people aren't playing just because of me so, don't worry about that.
 
I'm really confused I have no clue what the big deal is or why everyone is acting like it's the literal end of the world.
 
I'm really confused I have no clue what the big deal is or why everyone is acting like it's the literal end of the world.

Chrys thought that entropy was cheating, and told Cory that, and that she was on the scum team with Tardis. Cory went vigilante and tried to lynch entropy, rather than either of them bringing their suspicions up with the host, Minties.
 
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i just want to post this here.
its from the tbt mafia discord

Cory - Today at 7:56 PM
this game doesnt show i was a ****ty person
i felt frustrated because i though that entropy was cheating. but i failed to realize that i was cheating myself
i regret what i said
i tried to apologize but she thinks it wasnt sincere idk how to make an apology sincere on the internet
in this time i thought about leaving this server and never coming back to tbt
but people care about me
as concited as that sounds i don't want to hurt their feelings
 
A lot of this could have been avoided if you had actually owned up to or even apologised for cheating before it spiralled out of control. Instead you chose to get mad at me for being mad at you. There were far better way to handle this. We are both adults, if you had come to me and talked about it instead of letting Cory do the work, which only pissed me off further, then this would have been much different. I appreciate you actually apologising though and don't hate you as a person. I'm not holding a grudge on you as a person. However, I won't play mafia with you again. Other players that were caught cheating also faced their respective punishment and were ostracised. The big difference is that they apologised straight away before it had time to fester like this situation has. The part that made me most upset wasn't even the cheating. It was the public derailing of my thread so much that I had to report it to a mod and then the respective lying about it. You've heard the saying "it takes two to tango"? It takes two to cheat. BOTH of you broke the rules, the difference is that you actually seem to feel bad about it. You can't absolve Cory by telling me not to blame him. Him, I do dislike as a person. Him, I am over and done with in all facets of mafia or outside of mafia.

I still feel that you're excusing Cory's vile behaviour. He obviously doesn't really care that he cheated as well (considering I'm sure he didn't say stop PMing me and he definitely didn't come to me straight away). He went to start drama in my after game. I thought Cory had matured from 2014, but I was horribly, horribly wrong. I screenshotted the entire PM stream I have with Cory and you can see how insincere he is during it. He doesn't care about being gross towards Meow and only apologised because he didn't want the backlash. He also has no remorse for cheating whatsoever. The fact that he continues to start drama over me, over daniel, over meow simply proves that he is still the same 14 year old that cares about no one other than himself. Here's the snippet of why I'm completely done with Cory:

Minties - Last Monday at 11:00 AM
I feel kind of like we need to talk about this dude. Because you're no better than meow in this situation because you cheated as well. There's no way you'd know that meow was suspected of cheating unless you were PM'd prior to being modkilled, which is cheating as well.

Cory - Last Monday at 11:01 AM
i refuse to say who i got the info from
ill just say it was someone from obs

Minties - Last Monday at 11:05 AM
I'm not stupid haha. I know exactly where you would get the info from. I'm just saying it's intensely hypocritical to accuse meow of cheating in public and essentially destroy a game I worked on for hours when you were cheating yourself. No PMs means no PMs and you broke that rule. There was no proof of meow cheating and i was doing my job as a host to look for it privately and with the help of mods. The fact that you went above my head after finding out while you were still alive from the scum team member that was most angry is just infuriating to me.

Cory - Last Monday at 11:06 AM
who did i get it from then

Minties - Last Monday at 11:07 AM
Cory really

Cory - Last Monday at 11:07 AM
?

Minties - Last Monday at 11:08 AM
It was kind of obvious that it would have been from chrys so that she wouldn't get lynched. You can deny it all you want, but yeah.

Cory - Last Monday at 11:08 AM
do you have proof?

Minties - Last Monday at 11:09 AM
The fact that you'd say that automatically means I'm right. Your attitude is gross. I'm done here.

Cory - Last Monday at 11:12 AM
i did know she was even cheating after i requested to be modkilled

Minties - Last Monday at 11:15 AM
BECAUSE /YOU/ WERE CHEATING. You were directly breaking the NO PM rule of my game and if you didn't request to be modkilled, I would have ****ing modkilled you. Meow didn't cheat. I'm sorry that the girl you like got lynched but IT HAPPENS. You need to be able to separate your emotions from mafia or this happens

Cory - Last Monday at 11:15 AM
how did i know at first
i didnt
entropy was playing like ****

Minties - Last Monday at 11:16 AM
You did which is why you were going after her and not chrystina

Cory - Last Monday at 11:16 AM
and i called her out on it

Minties - Last Monday at 11:16 AM
Don't back pedal now

Cory - Last Monday at 11:16 AM
im not
she was so anti town

Minties - Last Monday at 11:16 AM
It's one thing to call out bad play, it's another to call out cheating. That's my job to handle it, not yours.
Also you literally sound exactly like chrystina in scum chat, so that's how i know it was you guys

Cory - Last Monday at 11:18 AM
so
it still doesnt prove that i cheated

Minties - Last Monday at 11:20 AM
Yes it does because there's no way you'd have that knowledge before you were modkilled as it was entirely private. You also admitted to cheating. So if you're seriously going to sit here and pretend like you never said that, you can really **** right off. I don't play with cheaters.

Cory - Last Monday at 11:20 AM
i said she has connections
so dont slander me

Minties - Last Monday at 11:27 AM
Are you serious? lmfao please leave me alone if you're going to lie. Later.

Cory - Last Monday at 11:27 AM
how am i not serious(edited)
im not going to say anything more

Minties - Last Monday at 11:29 AM
You've said enough. I've heard enough. You're a cheater, that much is clear.

Cory - Last Monday at 11:32 AM
look
we did cheat
she started talking to me about the game and
she slipped that tardis is scum
while talking about how entropy cheated
just
give me double the ban time instead of giving her a ban(edited)

Now I think this needs time to simmer down as it's still pretty fresh and I don't want to dig this up every single day for the rest of forever.
 
That was 2 days ago when I was angry.
I apologized to both of you multiple times so that's a lie.
Leave me alone, I'm done with you.
I'm not the only one to cheat, this isn't a new thing.
People have been cheating every game.

Also Chrys messaged you multiple times and you did not say anything. You are the one acting like a 14 year old.
 
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That was 2 days ago when I was angry.
I apologized to both of you multiple times so that's a lie.
Leave me alone, I'm done with you.
I'm not the only one to cheat, this isn't a new thing.
People have been cheating every game.

Also Chrys messaged you multiple times and you did not say anything. You are the one acting like a 14 year old.

Dude, why are you acting like the victim here? You are the perpetrator, not the victim.
 
All Chrystina said to me during this was:

Chrystina - Last Monday at 11:33 AM
Dont be mad at Cory
please
Like in all honesty, be mad at me if anything

If she said anything else, it didn't come through to me because I was not on the same server as her and don't have her on friends. This is how Discord works.
 
All Chrystina said to me during this was:



If she said anything else, it didn't come through to me because I was not on the same server as her and don't have her on friends. This is how Discord works.

you could have at least said "okay" or something...
you made her real upset...
 
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you could have at least said "okay" or something...

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She could have also said sorry? But yeah, I'll go out of my way to beg forgiveness from someone who excuses your behaviour and assists in messing up my game. Sure. I'll get right on that.

Just stop Cory. You won't take the blame for anything. You can play the victim, but we all know how you actually are.

edit; speaking of circle jerk - is that not what you did to chrys that game?
 
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