Wi-Fi Player Feedback/Rating Suggestion

[Rose]

I apologize if this has already been talked about, but there's something I'd like to hear the mods' opinions on.

I feel that the community would benefit immensely from a subforum hosting feedback threads that each user could start for themselves, if he or she wished to do so. In a community so dependent on social aspects and activities, it would absolutely be of value for people to get an idea of who they do and do not allow entry into their town.

I know I and a good amount of other people would feel a lot more secure knowing that people with some sort of reputation will be setting foot into their town. It would give people an option to warn others of poor behavior, from small things like a few immature phrases/bad words to stealing, not listening to the town's owner, running without consent/refusing to stop doing so, etc.

It would also give members an opportunity to thank people for kindness that they'd done and encourage other people to Wi-Fi with them as well(which could, in turn, influence people to be kinder to one another knowing feedback may potentially be left for them.) Having a feedback/review section in TBT would better allow the filtering of who a person chooses to let into their town, rather than needing to put trust into a stranger.

I know other Animal Crossing forums have some sort of equivalent to this, and I found it extremely valuable before I moved to TBT(which does have a much more trustworthy community in general, but the occasional incident does happen.) It would be optional, of course, and some people may not mind inviting someone with no feedback at all -- I just believe it would be fair to provide more careful folks some information on who they're playing with.

Is there any possibility this might be an upcoming feature, or have you decided to refrain from adding any type of rating system altogether?

 

[Roknar]

Personally, I would love a feature like this to be implemented also. I think it would be a great idea for TBT.

 

[Sena]

I also think this would be an excellent idea, and help shape TBT into a more organized active online player community as well as a good place to find reliable and helpful players.

 

[Sheep]

"Another issue that's come up quite a bit is the suggestion of a blacklist. This is here as a notifier, not as a debate. A blacklist is not possible for many reasons. You may privately tell your friends that someone has wronged you and to not buy or sell to them, but publicly outing someone for doing something that can hardly be proven is going to cause some issues.

Most of what would constitute the population of a blacklist would be hearsay. It can't be explicitly proven that someone is in the wrong, or it could be the user trying to cause drama. If you really think about it a blacklist could easily be more of a hindrance than a help.

As a community forum, we are supposed to act as friends. Friends have problems between each other, and it isn't fair for something that could have been a mistake to follow a user around for their time here, especially considering the average forum-life of a tbt user. If however, you feel as if you have been wronged by someone and you have the means to prove it, it is suggested that you take the issue to a mod PRIVATELY, and hopefully a one on one talk can resolve the issue quietly.

Though there is no guarantee that anything can be done to return bells or lost items, depending on the situation, a user may be issued a warning or infraction. Do not explicitly request or demand action from a moderator, it is at our own judgement what should be done to handle the situation."

 

[Sena]

Sheep, Rose wasn't suggesting a blacklist.

 

[Roknar]

Agreed: a blacklist is a terrible idea for the reasons you presented. However, I think what others were asking for was a way to rate members. That way, people could gain more credibility on the forum when they rate other users after playing with them. It would help to promote safe, reliable, fun trading/playing on TBT.

 

[Sheep]

Agreed: a blacklist is a terrible idea for the reasons you presented. However, I think what others were asking for was a way to rate members. That way, people could gain more credibility on the forum when they rate other users after playing with them. It would help to promote safe, reliable, fun trading/playing on TBT.

But wouldn't a bad rating also cause problems? It's all based on personal opinion, it could ruin a persons creditability/public appearance, and you would have no way of proving it

 

[Rose]

But wouldn't a bad rating also cause problems? It's all based on personal opinion, it could ruin a persons creditability/public appearance, and you would have no way of proving it

It's a possibility, but there is an equal possibility for someone to create a thread here wrongly accusing another person even without the presence of specific feedback threads. It will not inspire or stop a person from trashing another's reputation if that is what they want to do.

 

[Sena]

I don't really understand the assumption that people would throw baseless accusations at each other left and right with the addition of a feedback area. Plenty of forums of all sorts have feedback sections without encountering such an issue.

 

[Roknar]

But wouldn't a bad rating also cause problems? It's all based on personal opinion, it could ruin a persons creditability/public appearance, and you would have no way of proving it

I don't really understand the assumption that people would throw baseless accusations at each other left and right with the addition of a feedback area. Plenty of forums of all sorts have feedback sections without encountering such an issue.

I've been on many sites for games where people post feedback of the other person (AC sites included) and there have not been problems with people abusing the feature. 90% of people who post feedback are going to be honest. It would take TBT to the next level and would put people's minds at ease for Wi-Fi gameplay if some sort of feedback system were implemented. Some people refuse to let other players into their towns simply because this feature does not exist on the site.

I think a good way to see how people feel about this would be the a site-wide poll to gather users' opinions on the matter. I'd be shocked if most people didn't want some sort of feedback system.

 

[Sheep]

What timing...some guy just cut down all of my growing trees.

I must of left my gates open and closed the 3DS, forgetting that i left them open, are people still allowed to come in when you have your 3DS closed?

Sorry if this is off topic for this thread.

 

[Roknar]

What timing...some guy just cut down all of my growing trees.

I must of left my gates open and closed the 3DS, forgetting that i left them open, are people still allowed to come in when you have your 3DS closed?

Sorry if this is off topic for this thread.

Yes; as long as your gate is open and your DS is on, anyone you're friends with can show up. See, wouldn't it have helped if afterwards you could leave that person a negative rating? That's why we're trying to start a dialogue with the staff about it. It would help all of us that play online.

 

[Rose]

Yes, Roknar is right.

In any case, having the ability to leave feedback for people like this is absolutely worth the minuscule risk that someone at some point in time may try to abuse the system.

It doesn't make any sense for the forum to discard the idea entirely on account of it being "too big of a risk." It seems rather counter-productive for the forum to attempt to prevent conflict by omitting the possibility to warn others of those who cause it.

 

[saccharine]

If anyone plays MapleStory, then more often than not they've heard of basilmarket. It operates just like the Re-Tail section of the forums. Players are allowed to bid on each other's item and then make trades. Then they leave feedback.
If negative feedback is left, the player who received the negative rating have an option to comment on the feedback.

I like the idea of a feedback system on here (despite being a new user), it puts me at ease knowing no one's going to ransack my town. Point being, if a feedback system were implemented, allow users to possibly comment on negative feedback they may have received. Or to appeal it if needed.

 

[Rose]

I don't mean to push, but other threads around Bell Tree HQ have been getting very quick replies and I am wondering why this thread hasn't been addressed yet after over a week.

I'd really appreciate at least some word on the proposal when any mods have the time.

 

[oath2order]

Message the mods then.

 

[Roknar]

I don't mean to push, but other threads around Bell Tree HQ have been getting very quick replies and I am wondering why this thread hasn't been addressed yet after over a week.

I'd really appreciate at least some word on the proposal when any mods have the time.

My thoughts exactly. I wanted to hear the moderators' views on this proposal.

 

[oath2order]

Now that I think of it, this might help: http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?71171-Rules-Guidelines-and-Blacklisting

 

[Sena]

Now that I think of it, this might help: http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?71171-Rules-Guidelines-and-Blacklisting

If you read a little earlier in the thread you'll see that the linked information was already posted and subsequently refuted.

 

[oath2order]

If you read a little earlier in the thread you'll see that the linked information was already posted and subsequently refuted.

Yes, and if you read the link, "As a community forum, we are supposed to act as friends. Friends have problems between each other, and it isn't fair for something that could have been a mistake to follow a user around for their time here, especially considering the average forum-life of a tbt user."

That also applies to a feedback/rating system, not just a blacklist.