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[Zura]

Lol first of all, stop being condescending.
You made a positive claim that the developers were against TT and I was a able to prove that as incorrect.
What you are doing is cherry picking and trying to create a rule book on what is and isnt ok.
If something was not ok, then it would be taken out of the game. The developers are not stupid and they are aware of what is going on.

Once again wrong. Just because the developer says it's ok to TT doesn't mean that they intended for it to be done that way. The took it out of the settings as an obvious way of discouraging the use of changing the clock and that's exactly what I was pointing out. The devs have also overlooked many cheats such a duping in the game and it's hard for you to think they may have overlooked TTing exploits?

Sounds like you're the one cherry-picking and somewhat defending the greedy people ruining the market.

 

[Stil]

Once again wrong. Just because the developer says it's ok to TT doesn't mean that they intended for it to be done that way. The took it out of the settings as an obvious way of discouraging the use of changing the clock and that's exactly what I was pointing out. The devs have also overlooked many cheats such a duping in the game and it's hard for you to think they may have overlooked TTing exploits?

Sounds like you're the one cherry-picking and somewhat defending the greedy people ruining the market.

"I'm no hippie but I'm definitely a positivity nut. I love being positive and anything that has to do with it. My hope is that just being happy will make the people around me happy as well. As cheesy as that sounds, it's definitely my life motto!"-Zura

You might want to rewrite your about me section. Everything youve said to me and how youre acting is proving to be quite the opposite than how you look at yourself.

Ive said all I needed to say about the topic and have no other input. If I did, then this argument will become very circular, very fast.
Feel free to come back to this thread at a later date so you can re-read it to see where you went wrong.

Edit: Also, you might want to go look up what cherry picking means :/

 

[Mello]

Once again wrong. Just because the developer says it's ok to TT doesn't mean that they intended for it to be done that way. The took it out of the settings as an obvious way of discouraging the use of changing the clock and that's exactly what I was pointing out. The devs have also overlooked many cheats such a duping in the game and it's hard for you to think they may have overlooked TTing exploits?

Sounds like you're the one cherry-picking and somewhat defending the greedy people ruining the market.

The devs have overlooked duping? What are you talking about? Duping was patched in what? 4 days? Let's throw that claim out altogether, shall we?

 

[Zura]

You might want to rewrite your about me section. Everything youve said to me and how youre acting is proving to be quite the opposite than how you look at yourself.

Ive said all I needed to say about the topic and have no other input. If I did, then this argument will become very circular, very fast.
Feel free to come back to this thread at a later date so you can re-read it to see where you went wrong.

Edit: Also, you might want to go look up what cherry picking means :/

I don't know about you but I think even the most positive people would still consider cheating/exploiting as cheating/exploiting. Is there a way I am supposed to sugar coat it or something?

 

[Stil]

I don't know about you but I think even the most positive people would still consider cheating/exploiting as cheating/exploiting. Is there a way I am supposed to sugar coat it or something?

Well thats just a fallacy.

 

[Zura]

Well thats just a fallacy.

What is? You said I wasn't positive because I was calling TTers what they are. Please inform me how that was a fallacy so I may not make the same mistake twice.

 

[Stil]

What is? You said I wasn't positive because I was calling TTers what they are. Please inform me how that was a fallacy so I may not make the same mistake twice.

Its called The True Scotsman Fallacy

 

[Mairen]

I'd like you show me how the market is ruined right now by TT'ers. I'm quite interested. Point me in the direction of the 2m+ each for nook tickets, 1m+ for fruits and stacks of materials. I'm curious about this, because it seems you're privy to information I don't have access to.

hmm... I'd hate to get involved in this heated debate. I'm really nervous around all this negativity.. but I did think of an idea about that! If someone were to time travel to far point in the game and gain access to items that people playing at a normal pace wouldn't have access to yet. They could then charge super high prices for those items. Maybe something like that?

Can everyone just hug and acknowledge that some people are against time travel and some people are just fine with it and then we can all go back to fishing and watering flowers and stuff? >.<

 

[Zura]

The devs have overlooked duping? What are you talking about? Duping was patched in what? 4 days? Let's throw that claim out altogether, shall we?

Im sorry what? Can we both admit that duping was in the game's release? It was? Awesome so it's clear it was overlooked

 

[morthael]

Im sorry what? Can we both admit that duping was in the game's release? It was? Awesome so it's clear it was overlooked

Overlooked and then patched in a matter of days. This is just getting embarrassing - just agree to disagree ya’ll.

 

[0kamu0]

Im sorry what? Can we both admit that duping was in the game's release? It was? Awesome so it's clear it was overlooked

the devs are only human. there's bound to be mistakes in code, people just discovered one that happened to allow them to make a lot of money. and then the devs fixed it super quick

 

[myow]

I don't know about you but I think even the most positive people would still consider cheating/exploiting as cheating/exploiting. Is there a way I am supposed to sugar coat it or something?

from what I’ve seen you’re calling people who TT greedy and cheaters. Most people tt purely for their own enjoyment and progression of the game. So while you don’t have to “sugar coat” anything (you’re totally entitled to your opinion about not liking TTing) you are coming off really aggressive and rude imo. Disagreeing doesn’t mean you have to take shots at people whose opinions conflict with your own.

 

[Mello]

hmm... I'd hate to get involved in this heated debate. I'm really nervous around all this negativity.. but I did think of an idea about that! If someone were to time travel to far point in the game and gain access to items that people playing at a normal pace wouldn't have access to yet. They could then charge super high prices for those items. Maybe something like that?

Can everyone just hug and acknowledge that some people are against time travel and some people are just fine with it and then we can all go back to fishing and watering flowers and stuff? >.<

You're right Mairen, they could do that and I'm sure there's a bunch of people who do just that actually. However, I do like to think that not everyone does this. I was just trying to say that I don't think it's fair to call TT'ers greedy cheaters when a lot of people just don't want to wait a day to move a house. I don't think that's fair.

 

[courtky]

Why do time travelers get insulted by this? It IS cheating. That being said, I'm not trying to offend or insult... just calling it what it is. Cheating isn't always a bad thing. For example, you like to cycle and get villagers for others which is extremely nice of you. That's fine, play how you want! The mechanic is still cheating, though, and to say it isn't is just ignoring facts lol.

I don't understand the "people are just jealous" comments either. I bought another copy of New Leaf back in the day to cycle and time travel to help others. I loved it at first but there was a point where I got... bored... like, I did everything within a few weeks. I had everything I wanted. The game became stale. I'm choosing not to do that on New Horizons. Not sure how not wanting to time travel makes anyone jealous.

 

[diamond is unbreakable]

As a former time traveler (this is the first game I am not time traveling in!) it is cheating, and cheating can be lots of fun! If you enjoy it, go for it. It's like when I was younger and used an action replay to cheat in shiny pokemon because I didn't want to waste my time shiny hunting. That is definitely cheating, yeah? Why? For reasons already stated here. So why would it be any different for animal crossing? After years of time traveling (and in pokemon refusing to shiny hunt), I now don't because I enjoy the game without it (and I now shiny hunt because I like it!)

 

[Stil]

Why do time travelers get insulted by this? It IS cheating. That being said, I'm not trying to offend or insult... just calling it what it is. Cheating isn't always a bad thing. For example, you like to cycle and get villagers for others which is extremely nice of you. That's fine, play how you want! The mechanic is still cheating, though, and to say it isn't is just ignoring facts lol.

I don't understand the "people are just jealous" comments either. I bought another copy of New Leaf back in the day to cycle and time travel to help others. I loved it at first but there was a point where I got... bored... like, I did everything within a few weeks. I had everything I wanted. The game became stale. I'm choosing not to do that on New Horizons. Not sure how not wanting to time travel makes anyone jealous.

scoll up to my post with the article

 

[FireNinja1]

Just because the developer says it's ok to TT doesn't mean that they intended for it to be done that way.

This statement is self-contradictory.

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Also, y'all need to chill. TTing is a thing, has always been a thing, and will continue to be a thing. It's impossible to stop everyone from TTing, but it is possible to work around the implications of TTing, however widespread you consider it to be.

 

[angesradieux]

I'm honestly not sure why this topic is so contentious. Don't like time traveling? Don't do it. No one's trying to force you into it. If you would rather not wait a day to move buildings/build ramps and bridges/whatever? That's cool, too. I decided I wanted to move all my villagers to one section of the island. Personally, I'm too impatient to wait ten days, so I time traveled to speed up the process. Customizing the exterior of my house was also something I was super excited for and didn't want to wait however many days to make happen, so I time traveled to speed up the upgrades. I accomplished what I wanted, it didn't hurt anyone, and I hardly think it makes me greedy, or sleazy, or anything like it. I'm just playing the game in a way that makes me happy. As should everyone else. I don't see the point in judging people for their play style.

I also, frankly, don't get why people get so twisted over other people acquiring things first. Why does it matter? Play at your pace, whatever that may be, and build your island the way you want. Other people unlocked terraforming before me? Cool. Good for them. I'll get there when I get there. Someone else has more of the furniture I'm hunting for? Whatever. Maybe they time travel more than me. Or maybe they don't and they just got luckier. Or maybe they're more heavily into online trading than me. Does it matter how they got it? Nope. I'll find what I want, or save up to trade for it, eventually. I don't really care that someone else did it first. I really don't understand the competitiveness. I know for a fact my island is incredibly under developed compared to other people. But it makes me happy, and that's really the only thing that matters.

To me, it's just a super chill, relaxing game about designing an island and hanging out with talking animals. I just don't see a reason to get so fired up over what other people have or the way other people choose to play. It's just not that serious to me.

 

[Zura]

from what I’ve seen you’re calling people who TT greedy and cheaters. Most people tt purely for their own enjoyment and progression of the game. So while you don’t have to “sugar coat” anything (you’re totally entitled to your opinion about not liking TTing) you are coming off really aggressive and rude imo. Disagreeing doesn’t mean you have to take shots at people whose opinions conflict with your own.

No, no that's not what I mean and I am sorry if it comes out that way. I only find TT as cheating if it's being used to exploit people. While I don't think that's how it should be played, I don't think it a problem if you do it.

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This statement is self-contradictory.

Agreed but in context, I meant that they're ok with it but advise against it as stated by Infinity.

 

[Corrie]

In my view, play how you want and let others play how they want to. Developers have said they don't consider it cheating so I don't understand why there's still people claiming it's cheating. Duping is cheating, hence why they patched that super fast.

I personally don't TT cause I don't care too much but I definitely get impatient waiting for stuff to unlock so I'll TT from time to time but it's never more than a few days in advance.