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I agree with the majority of other posters that there's way more vocal comparison between New Leaf and New Horizons than the older games. Most people I know haven't played Animal Crossing Gamecube.
I would be one of the ones who prefer older games (Wild World & Gamecube) due to the dialogue. I'm not into decorating/design, so the villager dialogue was the main draw of the game for me, and playing New Horizons feels a bit hollow. However, while I know asking for "rude" dialogue is unrealistic for the reasons you mentioned, I do think they could make it less repetitive. I hear the same things every day from my villagers, and a lot of it feels like effortless writing (e.g. "Today's already fun!" as a complete segment of dialogue which Melba says daily). More variety and substance would at least renew my interest in playing I think.
I agree with this. Their dialogue leaves me cold. I have Nan in Wild world, new leaf and NH. In NH I have no connection to her whatsoever. She’s an empty shell whereas WW and NL Nan are interesting to talk to and I actually feel we have a friendship. One of the reasons I play all the older games is I like the villagers, they are the draw for me of the game, not decorating.
I’ve played every single AC game, and I consider New Horizons to a great entry, honestly, my favorite right now. It just plays differently from the other entires in the series with features like crafting. I prefer the town aesthetic as opposed to a tropical island one, but I am immensely grateful for the fact that the developers pulled a New Leaf and instead of recycling what we had in the past, they took a risk and tried to give us something different. And, to me, it worked very well!
Yeah, I think it‘s just Internet culture to rant about everything nowadays. I’ve frequented TBT since 2007/2008, right before City Folk dropped. It was nothing like this. You had a few threads here and there with disappointment that ACCF was ACWW recycled, but people didn’t harp on it in every thread; it was just a case of, “it is what it is” and let’s see how to make the experience better now.
At the end of the day, this is an Animal Crossing fan forum. I think everyone is entitled to give feedback on what they’d like to see changed, and ACNH is by no means perfect, but to rant incessantly is just a bit too much to me. Try to look at things in a bit more positive light, connect with others and find things to do in New Horizons. If you really can’t find anything appealing, ACNL still has a lively community, and all of the predecessors are there with your favorite NPCs who may not yet be in ACNH.
I’ve seen what things get like when a greedy corporation actually ruins great series by overcharging for content, scrapping tons of content in the base game, and doesn’t care enough to fix annoying bugs (cough, The Sims 4) and Animal Crossing is just so far incredibly away from being anything like that.
I agree with the majority of other posters that there's way more vocal comparison between New Leaf and New Horizons than the older games. Most people I know haven't played Animal Crossing Gamecube.
I would be one of the ones who prefer older games (Wild World & Gamecube) due to the dialogue. I'm not into decorating/design, so the villager dialogue was the main draw of the game for me, and playing New Horizons feels a bit hollow. However, while I know asking for "rude" dialogue is unrealistic for the reasons you mentioned, I do think they could make it less repetitive. I hear the same things every day from my villagers, and a lot of it feels like effortless writing (e.g. "Today's already fun!" as a complete segment of dialogue which Melba says daily). More variety and substance would at least renew my interest in playing I think.
I find it's not the dialog itself - Most of it is actually pretty good. Its the timing and access of it that's the issue. I work around lines like that by only talking to them the first time of the day when they're in their homes. But I do wonder why the creators chose to hide the worthwhile dialog behind the bland first lines like that.
Look people have the right to voice their opinion on how they feel about the game, Just because you disagree doesn't mean you have to tell off those people. Its true that the game has problems and there are valid criticism to be had with it. It helps show that people have viewed the game differently and they voice their thoughts on how they feel about the game and what could be done better.
Sure you don't always have to agree but its their opinion at the end of the day.
I like NH a lot, I played it more than all other combined, but i like previous entries just as much. I just think this game is great, but you can't say it wouldnt be even better if they didn't cut so many features from previous games.
The one thing I did prefer more in previous game is the immersive experience of it, I can't really explain why, but I'm sure a lot of people would agree with me on that.
But I think people can complain if they want and people can be happy about the game if they want. I personally don't really see the point to analyse someones opinion.
Look people have the right to voice their opinion on how they feel about the game, Just because you disagree doesn't mean you have to tell off those people. Its true that the game has problems and there are valid criticism to be had with it. It helps show that people have viewed the game differently and they voice their thoughts on how they feel about the game and what could be done better.
Sure you don't always have to agree but its their opinion at the end of the day.
I'm speaking an argument in my OP as fact, not opinion: No matter how hard people will advocate for the strengths and powers of the original, you won't get them in another game - in NH or in the future.
At the end of the day, this is an Animal Crossing fan forum. I think everyone is entitled to give feedback on what they’d like to see changed, and ACNH is by no means perfect, but to rant incessantly is just a bit too much to me. Try to look at things in a bit more positive light, connect with others and find things to do in New Horizons. If you really can’t find anything appealing, ACNL still has a lively community, and all of the predecessors are there with your favorite NPCs who may not yet be in ACNH.
Personally, I've never minded rant threads. The people that are passionately complaining about New Horizons love this franchise, they love these games. I would rather have people voice their opinions, as negative or hateful as they might be, towards the game/franchise than keep it to themselves or only talk about the things they like like in the name of positivity. I don't know. That's just a personal preference though. I completely get why others don't feel the same.
I think the thing is that there's a new rant thread everyday talking about the same stuff that is mentioned the day before, and the day before that, and so on and so forth. People are 100% allowed to voice their opinion, but when the same thing is being made as a new thread everyday, when the forums already have a designated Rant Thread for all your ranting needs, the arguments become a bit stale :/ Rather than thinking "Oh that's an interesting argument, I see", I always find myself thinking "Oh boy, thread #123 about how lacklustre the game is". Just a personal thought though
Look people have the right to voice their opinion on how they feel about the game, Just because you disagree doesn't mean you have to tell off those people. Its true that the game has problems and there are valid criticism to be had with it. It helps show that people have viewed the game differently and they voice their thoughts on how they feel about the game and what could be done better.
Sure you don't always have to agree but its their opinion at the end of the day.
OP was not telling anyone off. If people are allowed to make 50 threads about the same complaints, I think one person is allowed to say "Hey, maybe this is why it's like this, and maybe realize that things are headed in a different direction". I don't think it's fair to reprimand one side, when the other side of the spectrum is allowed to be as vocal as they want.
I think you're missing the point of the complaints though. Features were cut between all games in the series. For instance from CF to NL we lost things like the city, characters like Serena and Frillard, the auction house where you could sell things over wifi without town visiting, and being able to resize you nook store at will. Almost no one complained about these features missing in NL because NL added defining features of its own, so that these features werent missed and are exclusive to CF. Its a given for most players that the games wont be exactly alike and that some features will be removed.
The problem most people have with NH is not that the features and npcs of the previous games are missing, but that they were mostly gutted and replaced with...nothing. We have terraforming, and placing items outside, as defining NH features, but thats about it. There have been some QoL improvements over NL like expanded player customizations, not having villagers move out randomly, and being able to place their homes so that they're not a nuisance, but thus far defining features in NH either come from NL or is a watered down version of what we got in NL(Tortimer island vs Nook island for instance). So yeah, people will be vocal. That doesn't mean thah NH is a bad game, I mean speaking personally I wouldn't have willingly put over 1.3k hours into this game if I thought was crappy. But from my point of view the complaints are legit.
I'd like to add something else to this discussion...
Since New Year Eve, I decided to play every single day both games, NL and NH. Never had and intention to hate any of those, but still I had / have expectations, and comparing is natural for me.
If we are trying to "bend reality" and telling lies, it's a different story, but if we are presenting facts - what is a problem?
Like someone above mentioned, there are really GOOD things NH brought for us, like terraforming, placing items outside, bigger screen (handheld mode), HDMI output etc. but some things haven't been added (yet?) or just been dumped.
We may call "high hopes", dreams, expectations - but is still something natural, normal - we would like to have a best possible final product. I'm with Nintendo so many years, and still have old "The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening" - and with such a nostalgia sometimes I'm playing this game on my old GBC. When I bought remake of this game for Switch - I started comparing... anyone got hurt? Don't think so.
As mentioned above... now, I'm playing every single day NL and NH and comparing is fun, finding differences in both my "worlds" is refreshing. I don't need to, don't have to throw away any of my AC games, because I own a new one.
I don't agree NH is dedicated to different audience, as age of players starts from children and teenagers playing, adult and some older people. Maybe this game is easier for youngest players, not sure - but I do believe everyone could enjoy it.
Examples of comparison:
1. Snowboy only sole one is existing in NH - Snowboy, Snowmam, Snowman existing in NL.
2. Seaplane is not moving at all in NH - Train is constantly operating in NL.
3. Inventory 2,400 in NH - (180+360) in NL.
4. Currencies Bells and Miles in NH - Bells, Meows, Play Coins and Medals in NL.
5. Museum best interior in NH comparing to NL.
6. Critterpedia in NH just static pictures - animated models in NL.
Anyone got hurt? Did I lied, did I insulted anyone telling about this?
To be fair though, the train constantly running makes sense. It doesn't stay stationed at your town. Your town is just a stop on its route. So it's just passing through all the time. Your island on the other hand is an end point. So someone needs to be leaving or arriving for the plane to operate at all.
It would be cool though to have a random plane fly over the island every now and then and you could hear it and see the shadow and contrails.
To be fair though, the train constantly running makes sense. It doesn't stay stationed at your town. Your town is just a stop on its route. So it's just passing through all the time. Your island on the other hand is an end point. So someone needs to be leaving or arriving for the plane to operate at all.
It would be cool though to have a random plane fly over the island every now and then and you could hear it and see the shadow and contrails.
I was about to say that. It would be cool to hear a plane humming overhead and seeing their giant shadow blanket the ground you're on. That would be pretty awesome.
To be fair though, the train constantly running makes sense. It doesn't stay stationed at your town. Your town is just a stop on its route. So it's just passing through all the time. Your island on the other hand is an end point. So someone needs to be leaving or arriving for the plane to operate at all.
It would be cool though to have a random plane fly over the island every now and then and you could hear it and see the shadow and contrails.
I gave this as an example. I'm not expecting from planes flying over and over - but... if we inviting a guest to our island... how many planes do we have?
Personally, I've never minded rant threads. The people that are passionately complaining about New Horizons love this franchise, they love these games. I would rather have people voice their opinions, as negative or hateful as they might be, towards the game/franchise than keep it to themselves or only talk about the things they like like in the name of positivity. I don't know. That's just a personal preference though. I completely get why others don't feel the same.
I think some are conflating “feedback” with “rants”. I think feedback is super healthy for a game’s improvement, in fact, I’d argue it’s a necessity. If we didn’t give feedback during the time of City Folk, who knows if the developers would think to turn “a new leaf” with ACNL, making some massive improvements and much needed changes to the series.
However, someone claiming the game and development team at large are somehow inferior because they removed the ability to autonomously wish upon a star with a tool in hand as opposed to how it is right now is prime instance of a rant to me, and it’s something I’ve just seen on the forums the other day.
Examples of comparison:
1. Snowboy only sole one is existing in NH - Snowboy, Snowmam, Snowman existing in NL.
2. Seaplane is not moving at all in NH - Train is constantly operating in NL.
3. Inventory 2,400 in NH - (180+360) in NL.
4. Currencies Bells and Miles in NH - Bells, Meows, Play Coins and Medals in NL.
5. Museum best interior in NH comparing to NL.
6. Critterpedia in NH just static pictures - animated models in NL.
Interesting comparison! People already mentioned the train vs. plane, but were medals really a currency? I thought they were just achievements, which is a little similar to the achievements you get in New Horizons with Nook Miles.
I gave this as an example. I'm not expecting from planes flying over and over - but... if we inviting a guest to our island... how many planes do we have?
When arriving:
Each player takes their own plane. I think we can only dock a single plane at a time, so it's possible they parachute out
When leaving:
You take the host's plane and fly back to your own island... And maybe some more parachuting. The host's plane returns to its island and is ready for you or the next person who wants to leave.
Interesting comparison! People already mentioned the train vs. plane, but were medals really a currency? I thought they were just achievements, which is a little similar to the achievements you get in New Horizons with Nook Miles.
Medals were the currency on the Club Tortimer island. You got them by doing the mini-games. And depending how you did, you would get the least amount or the most. I think you're thinking of Phineas and his badges.
Medals were the currency on the Club Tortimer island. You got them by doing the mini-games. And depending how you did, you would get the least amount or the most. I think you're thinking of Phineas and his badges.
While I don't have a problem with people venting their frustrations with a game from time to time, what I think is the point the OP is making isn't about that. I've seen some systemic complaining in these forums, from the same people, for months. It begs the question: if you hate this game so much, and you like another entry in the AC franchise better than NH, why are you still playing NH instead of your favorite game? Just to have a reason to constantly rant?
And, if you can comprehend that despite being part of the same franchise, every game is different, why do you want the newest game to be exactly like the one you already have? Like, what's the point of buying a new game if you already have what you want?
It almost feels like some of these people (and it's a very small part of this community, I could count them in on hand) got so frustrated that NH isn't NL that they feel like souring the experience of other players too. Like "how can you enjoy this game that I don't?? Let me constantly remind you of how bad this game is and how NL is better so we can get frustrated together".
But from my point of view the complaints are legit.
Now I remember!
