After the next update, do you think New Horizons will ever have more or the same amount of content New Leaf had?

[edsett]

i would think so. one thing i felt new horizons lacked in comparison to new leaf was furniture and the new hhp update seems to have fixed that. even if they don’t bring back every specific set, we seem to have gotten plenty of items. we have to wait and see but even with just cooking (and as a poc being able to change your skin color!!!), new horizons has more compared to new leaf. and reading this thread I have my own thoughts on some missing features.

villager dialogue is not better in new leaf. it has the same problems new horizons and one of the major criticisms for new leaf was the focus on customization over the community aspects of the previous games. if anything, at least new horizons added personality subtypes and and expanded on hobbies. but new horizons did changed some personalities, smugs went from smooth-talking flirts to male peppys (which i actually like, they are more funny and endearing in nh to me personally) and lazys have their bugs. even if i don’t mind it, i understand people who prefer the bug-less lazys from new leaf.

on npcs i’m neutral. i’m more attached to villagers over npcs and don’t really mind when they’re replaced by better functions. i like being to change my hair whenever i want instead of once per day and having to wait to fix it if i accidentally answered harriet wrong. however i definitely why people want some npcs to return especially when they have been in every single previous game.

and i can’t be the only who didn’t care for the mini games in new leaf. half of them are fishing, catching bugs, etc. so with timer item you can pretty much recreate most of those on your island. the others like the hammer one got pretty boring and repetitive pretty fast especially when you were grinding for medals. this could be just me but i didn’t really care about them that much. however they could bring back them and expand on them, make them better, but i rather they not do that over the main game. animal crossing’s multiplayer aspects have always been a side thing, more sharing with other players rather than dedicated multiplayer so shrug.

it’s bogus we can’t upgrade our rooms to max size like we can in new leaf though.

 

[satine]

This doesn't sound so much an argument for the game lacking content. But an argument that the game lacks content that you personally would have wanted to see.

Of course it's fine to not like what this game offers as much as other titles. I just don't think that's the same thing as having less content.

I don't know about "me personally" since a lot of players who enjoyed the older titles seem to have the same perspective and value the same mechanics and features of the original game. Additionally I did say that they added some new features. Maybe to some that does even it out.

However, in terms of the original mechanics/objectives/features of the game, I can't see how it couldn't be seen as at least slightly lacking in comparison to past titles considering how much of said original mechanics/objectives/features it explicitly did not add? All I am saying is that some people feel it is lacking because these original mechanics/objectives/features seem to have been abandoned. Others may feel contented with what those things were replaced with and what the new focus and objectives are in NH. Which is fine. But the reason that some might consider the game "lacking" is because they just personally don't consider the new features of the game to be equal to the content features that they replaced. In my opinion the new update for the most part adds these back save for a small handful. But it is perfectly reasonable for OP & others who might feel this way to consider the base game "lacking" for these reasons.

 

[RollingAntony]

I don't know about "me personally" since a lot of players who enjoyed the older titles seem to have the same perspective and value the same mechanics and features of the original game. Additionally I did say that they added some new features. Maybe to some that does even it out.

However, in terms of the original mechanics/objectives/features of the game, I can't see how it couldn't be seen as at least slightly lacking in comparison to past titles considering how much of said original mechanics/objectives/features it explicitly did not add? All I am saying is that some people feel it is lacking because these original mechanics/objectives/features seem to have been abandoned. Others may feel contented with what those things were replaced with and what the new focus and objectives are in NH. Which is fine. But the reason that some might consider the game "lacking" is because they just personally don't consider the new features of the game to be equal to the content features that they replaced. In my opinion the new update for the most part adds these back save for a small handful. But it is perfectly reasonable for OP & others who might feel this way to consider the base game "lacking" for these reasons.

This thread is comparing New Horizons with New Leaf, not New Horizons versus every single other entry on the franchise at the same time. What are the "original mechanics/features/objectives"? Because Animal Crossing 64/GC/etc is a very different game compared to any other on the franchise, specially both NL and NH. New Leaf also didn't have all the mini-events, villager dialogue and personalities, NPC personalities and villager interacions that the original game had. New Horizons actually went and rescued some of these (Blathers's personality is back, Wisp's quest is back, K.K. Slider greeting you is back...)

But again the point is that the thread is about the amount of content, between New Leaf and New Horizons, not the kind of content we prefer. For example, objectively, at the 1 year and 7 months mark, New Horizons is only 64 furniture items behind NL. Subjectively, people can say every single bit of furniture NH sucks and that since furniture sets aren't here, they prefer NL's content. And since the thread is asking about the content after the update, NH will objectively have more furniture content than NL (patent pending on the total number to see if it indeed reaches welcome amiibo).

 

[fairysyndrome]

villager dialogue is not better in new leaf. it has the same problems new horizons and one of the major criticisms for new leaf was the focus on customization over the community aspects of the previous games. if anything, at least new horizons added personality subtypes and and expanded on hobbies. but new horizons did changed some personalities, smugs went from smooth-talking flirts to male peppys (which i actually like, they are more funny and endearing in nh to me personally) and lazys have their bugs. even if i don’t mind it, i understand people who prefer the bug-less lazys from new leaf.

and i can’t be the only who didn’t care for the mini games in new leaf. half of them are fishing, catching bugs, etc. so with timer item you can pretty much recreate most of those on your island. the others like the hammer one got pretty boring and repetitive pretty fast especially when you were grinding for medals. this could be just me but i didn’t really care about them that much. however they could bring back them and expand on them, make them better, but i rather they not do that over the main game. animal crossing’s multiplayer aspects have always been a side thing, more sharing with other players rather than dedicated multiplayer so shrug.

it’s bogus we can’t upgrade our rooms to max size like we can in new leaf though.

honestly, your whole post is exactly how i feel about the content thing when comparing NL and NH but especially these two parts in particular that i'm quoting bc like.... huge agree that NH has a lot and now with the added furniture, more compared to NL (and especially when you compare base features, i think honestly the ability to pick skin tone in itself means more than whatever furniture we were missing that people used to hold NL up as the series golden standard...) but like, seconding dialogue not being better. it's just as repetitive as the dialogue in new horizons gets and i think it's honestly a lot more boring looking back at it; even if NH changed some things (and i'm personally not a big fan of the lazy bug thing myself), it's still more than NL dialogue had.

also agree on the minigames; i said this in another thread, but i don't get why they were so popular and why people are lamenting them not coming back so badly because they were insanely repetitive and got old / boring quickly; even if you could play them with friends, it only padded out your multiplayer experience by a handful of minutes. those challenges were essentially repurposed into the bug / fish catching contest minigames, which imo are a lot more fun to do with friends.

basically: agree with edsett's entire post, & yeah, i think NH will have more "content" than NL had after the update even if it's missing some specific furniture and NPCs people have been complaining about lacking. and in all honesty, i think despite the lack of furniture, it had more options and things to work with than NL to begin with in some aspects when you look at it as a whole lol.