Animal Crossing: New Horizon is not a console game!

[bittermeat]

I think the 10 villager limit is a pretty solid amount, or else I'd feel overwhelmed and the island would be way too crowded, especially with the amount of freedom we have to decorate outdoors.

 

[sunnibunniva]

I don't think you read what I wrote. The other 8 animal villagers is replace by human friends. Your island has plot for 18 houses and 8 of those houses are use for your friends instead of animal villagers. Don't have to be rude about it!

I read what you said. Just because you want more villagers doesn't mean nintendo is going to drop their "family-game" plan for New Horizons. like I said, if you don't like what your seeing from this game don't buy it

 

[Zura]

thats true but villagers also require a.i. while player characters do not, and a.i. also eats a huge chunk of memory

Well not necessarily considering all personalities AI are really just copies of each other. All jocks talk and act the same and so on. It all depends at what they've changed in NH

 

[thelonewanderer]

The thread title is completely wack. OP is just saying that they're hoping for specific stuff and in their opinion, it's not a "console game" without. Title should be changed to something that's not so absolute

Its not a console game because it literally an updated New Leaf with better graphics and some quality of life improvement. There a reason why Breath of the Wild and Twilight Princess is a much bigger game than any DS or 3DS offering.

 

[Zura]

Its not a console game because it literally an updated New Leaf with better graphics and some quality of life improvement. There a reason why Breath of the Wild and Twilight Princess is a much bigger game than any DS or 3DS offering.

Have you played the game? Do you know those things for sure? No? Then stop making up things and spreading rumors

 

[sunnibunniva]

Well not necessarily considering all personalities AI are really just copies of each other. All jocks talk and act the same and so on. It all depends at what they've changed in NH

I think they meant the a.i. of them walking around, interacting with stuff, ect. Not necessarily the dialogue

 

[Ley]

Datamine and IGN already confirm 10 villagers is the max limit. Land size is 36, 6 more than New Leaf. Not sure how playing the game changes those numbers? These are just facts and not opinion.

ok? that's not my point. how are you critizicing a game that's not even out yet? a game you've never played? how do you know that the villager limit will be a problem? hell, maybe with all these new features, outdoors decoration and stuff, you'll realize that 10 was the right amount.

 

[Zura]

I think they meant the a.i. of them walking around, interacting with stuff, ect. Not necessarily the dialogue

Oh yeah, I could see that affecting the game.

 

[sunnibunniva]

Its not a console game because it literally an updated New Leaf with better graphics and some quality of life improvement. There a reason why Breath of the Wild and Twilight Princess is a much bigger game than any DS or 3DS offering.

animal crossing is not a big game, that's just how it is. And they HAVE added so much more to this game anyways

 

[sudo]

Well not necessarily considering all personalities AI are really just copies of each other. All jocks talk and act the same and so on. It all depends at what they've changed in NH

while the dialog is all stored, im more talking about, walking ai, the ai that determines where the villager will be when the game loads up, whether they choose to fish or catch a bug, all these decisions are made by the a.i program for each villager and stacks up.

 

[thelonewanderer]

I think the 10 villager limit is a pretty solid amount, or else I'd feel overwhelmed and the island would be way too crowded, especially with the amount of freedom we have to decorate outdoors.

That why I said the Island should be at least the GC size or bigger. Not to mention it will still feel crowded with the addition of 8 friend houses and all of their furnitures. If it too overwhelming you can think each four quadrant of the map as "region" or "province" like in Pokemon or in real life for example. Feeling crowded has its benefit as well, for example, it feel like a real breathing town with more folks to talk to daily and more activities to do. Not to mention it would feel less lonely as well.

 

[DrewAC]

I think the developers chose the map size for performance reasons. Yes, the GameCube map may appear larger, but that's because everything was split into small acres, low texture detail, little to no clutter around, and, probably the biggest of all, the world was static (trees don't move). In New Horizons, every leaf/fruit moves independently. And that's in addition to the gorgeous textures and 3D models, clutter, and so on. AND of course, all of the furniture we'd have laid out around our town at varying levels. So, to me, that's console quality.

With that said, I do hope we one day get a world that feels as large and immersive as the Mario Kart 8 track or the anime. I personally think that'll be the direction the next game takes. With that said, New Horizons is still making huge strides.

Edit: Completely forgot to mention furniture outside, lol.

 

[bittermeat]

That why I said the Island should be at least the GC size or bigger. Not to mention it will still feel crowded with the addition of 8 friend houses and all of their furnitures. If it too overwhelming you can think each four quadrant of the map as "region" or "province" like in Pokemon or in real life for example. Feeling crowded has its benefit as well, for example, it feel like a real breathing town with more folks to talk to daily and more activities to do. Not to mention it would feel less lonely as well.

I am pretty sure New Horizon's map is bigger... I played the GameCube game for 5 years and the map always felt small... Prove me wrong?

 

[thelonewanderer]

Have you played the game? Do you know those things for sure? No? Then stop making up things and spreading rumors

How is it a rumors? The map size and animal villagers number have already been confirm. Its a fact and its not going to change with any update. Cut content and new features/items will be add in new update, but not map size or # of animal villagers.

 

[JKDOS]

Well not necessarily considering all personalities AI are really just copies of each other. All jocks talk and act the same and so on. It all depends at what they've changed in NH

Disagree. While their personality may inherit from the same class, they are all instances of an object, and every instance takes up it's own place in memory (RAM). The game needs to keep track of each an every outside villager, and what they are up-to.

On the bright side, memory management of all this is usually solved by chunk loading and deloading. Games starting at wild world have done this seamlessly, while in the Gamecube, you can literally watch the new chunk load as you enter/leave an acre. This is likely why the games have a globe effect to them. This prevents you from seeing a lot of chunk loading as you run straight up.

While graphics definilty don't make or break a game, I'd say it's a good example of how much the game is using the switch to its potential. I think you're forgetting there's a lot more than just villager houses in a Animal crossing town and now were having furniture outside which makes it a completly different problem.

Furniture outside will definitely take a hit on the RAM. This is why games like New Leaf had a PWP limit, and also a limit on items we could place in our homes. Plus, as we learned a couple days ago, the game is locked at 30FPS. Which was probably Nintendo's way of better optimising the game without taking away much from it. Most games on the Switch can run 60FPS, so being locked at 30FPS isn't a small thing to overlook. Definitely an optimisation decision.

 

[sunnibunniva]

sounds like this guy is just mad about being lonely

 

[Preet]

Everyone who has talked about the game explains how it's way more content-filled than most other Animal Crossing games. Do you think the original game has more content than NH? Even New Leaf?

 

[Ley]

maybe we shouldn't feed the troll...

 

[thelonewanderer]

I think the developers chose the map size for performance reasons. Yes, the GameCube map may appear larger, but that's because everything was split into small acres, low texture detail, little to no clutter around, and, probably the biggest of all, the world was static (trees don't move). In New Horizons, every leaf/fruit moves independently. And that's in addition to the gorgeous textures and 3D models, clutter, and so on. So, to me, that's console quality.

With that said, I do hope we one day get a world that feels as large and immersive as the Mario Kart 8 track or the anime. I personally think that'll be the direction the next game takes. With that said, New Horizons is still making huge strides.

We can't compare NH to the GC version because the Switch is newer and more powerful. What I can say when it comes to game development and this applies to all games with multiplayer aspect is that any amount of development for multiplayer is time and development not use for single-player. However in this game with the # of animal villagers, the single portion is being replace by multiplayer. I guess it great if you have a big family or lot of friends because those people are already rich in their lives as is. Further just prove the rich get richer.

 

[Zura]

Your fallacy is thinking the game is exactly like NL with cut content. Obviously that's gonna sound bad but let me stop you right there. I don't know if you have been keeping up with announcements and such but there's a ton of new additions to the game that makes the game 10x bigger then NL.