I'm usually a person that HATES DLC but I think HHP is a great deal (24 dollars not the Nintendo subscription package that sucks lol) considering that HHD was 40 dollars with less content and took up a LOT of space I think this DLC is a steal for me, not trying to downplay whatever financial situation you or anyone here has (Trust me I get it I really genuinely do) I just think what they're offering is fair and from what I've seen in this thread other people have said that this will be the ONLY paid DLC so I'm not too sour on it. If it wasn't the only one that'd be concerning too because.... WTF else would they even add?
Anyone else concerned by "Last FREE major update"?
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DJStarstryker
Senior Member
I thought that implied paid DLC only moving forward, but the gaming media has clarified this with Nintendo and Nintendo says that HHP is the only paid DLC they are going to release. Hearing that was, in a way, almost more upsetting because it sounds like Nintendo is pretty much dropping support for this game. 2.0 + HHP feels like it's finally making NH a complete feeling game, what it should've been at release, so I was looking forward to seeing what else might come out, especially because we're probably a lot of years away from another AC game.
Whenever the next game comes out, I don't see myself buying it for a while I've bought almost every AC game on release and whatever the next one is I don't think I will considering how this game was handled. Especially out the gate being so hellbent on the player buying online (Wild some people don't have 80 dollars to drop like that crazy concept am I right guys
) and with the lack of content I can easily imagine them doing this again. I really can again, might just be my bias against Nintendo but I wouldn't be surprised. I dropped the game for a while and during that time I made textures for ACGC, I can't even make clothes in NH because of that weird smoothing **** they have.... (That's just me nitpicking but still, why would they ever add that it's so inconsistent LOL)
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Exactly like.... Anything new? Cool, new furniture but.... Anything? Terraforming is cool I guess and I really don't like crafting so they just aren't going to add something else? I mean damn at least give us another collab or SOMETHING
nightglow
What's ye treasures?
Anything else that could be added after this update and DLC, would be better off in a new game where it will have more of an opportunity to be enjoyed by players, where it could be more fleshed out, and where it could be a main or a defined feature of the game. IMHO.
I do think the next game has a really good opportunity to be a game liked by fans of the series. For one, they won't have to redo all the graphics again so that is kinda "a head start" that New Horizons didn't have. It leaves more room or time in working on other stuff.
Thinking back on New Horizons, Pokemon came to mind. There was an argument out there about the reason why not all the pokemon were available in game, and one of them was because they were redoing the graphics and the team logically just wouldn't have enough time to do the graphics and animations of all the hundreds upon hundreds of monsters while developing a story ect ect. Eventually they had paid DLC to help with the monster availability problem. But my point is, I just have higher, not hyped, hopes for the next AC game because I would think or hope they would just use the same graphics from New Horizons. I mean there really isn't a reason to redo them... and they just spent all this time and energy making them... esp a bunch for the DLC at the end of the game. It will save energy and time to where other things can be worked on. Perhaps next time paid DLC will have items that aren't just redone popular older items from previous games and new content. Maybe next time the paid DLC will be new content + new items. And maybe next time villagers and items will be more interactive.
I'm not concerned by it being the last major "free" update as it looks to be pretty significant. And I have zero problem paying for additional content in the future if any is released. And I suspect, that if they get some good sales numbers that perhaps we will see more in the future? maybe? As we all know, Nintendo loves making money.
Ohhhh yeah that's a nice point, I just won't buy it if they're going to do the same thing with this game with the updates.... I really wish they were more vocal about everything, like if they had issues and ECT. I would understand that more and would have less complaints, maybe they were vocal about it somewhere and it's just not in English?
RollingAntony
Senior Member
Why should I be concerned? Aside from all the "confusing" wording on what "last" update means for NH, the game will get a meaty "final" free update and an extremely good paid DLC that is basically an own game with connections to the main game. The amount of content the game offers is unreal and it's only going to get even more big and we don't even know how much is there for the upcoming update (and even if we assume there's nothing else aside from the direct and prerelease media, it's nuts).
I mean, there are still people out there throwing around the ridiculous claim that only now NH will be a "complete" game (which by the way, has completely lost any meaning), so no matter what was added via free updates or paid DLC (or stealthy paid DLC such as the amiibos ala New Leaf), people wouldn't be happy anyways.
While of course, as a videogame fan I'm sad there won't be more updates, I understand a company is not my personal satisfaction machine and I actually think it's great they outright said it was the "last" update, because it's the kind of communication fans have been whining about since release. It's basically Nintendo's way of saying "it's over, go enjoy the game or enjoy other games or go touch some grass".
I mean, there are still people out there throwing around the ridiculous claim that only now NH will be a "complete" game (which by the way, has completely lost any meaning), so no matter what was added via free updates or paid DLC (or stealthy paid DLC such as the amiibos ala New Leaf), people wouldn't be happy anyways.
While of course, as a videogame fan I'm sad there won't be more updates, I understand a company is not my personal satisfaction machine and I actually think it's great they outright said it was the "last" update, because it's the kind of communication fans have been whining about since release. It's basically Nintendo's way of saying "it's over, go enjoy the game or enjoy other games or go touch some grass".
My major concern are the multiplayer minigames. I am fine without the tropical fruits and the other missing NPCs or crossover amiibos, but multiplayer is one of the greatest features of New Leaf and I'm disappointed that there was not a single hint of it in the Direct. I'm still optimistic that it'll come someday.
Lady Timpani
sway
That was exactly my thinking, actually. I'm not bothered by it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean, maybe for you two, but, I don't have any items at all
I don't have the bells to spend 100k+ on the "expensive" item, and the other items are almost always repeats I barely have anything after putting in so many hours, in NL with the upgrade I got a nice selection and I got it quick
I don't have the time to trade with people
I don't want to rely on others for that kind of thing when the other games already had it
ALSO
The upgrades are cute
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I'm concerned in the sense of, the FREE notion, other paid things that game might need is what I meant. Other users have said that Nintendo told IGN that HHP is the only paid DLC which I didn't know. I like how they're handling HHP, but, I don't trust Nintendo they're very greedy which is where my concerns are.
o013 WOLF 130o
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Were supposed to get more small free updates. But they made it sound like we would get more paid content. I was told that they wouldn't be anymore dlc from somthing my friend read but I'm hoping for 1 more large update b4 they walk away form this game and start on the next one.
Monokuma73
Senior Member
I personally believe it’s over. Major content has been added in free as well as in paid update. It looks, like everything has been given what we may spot in earlier iterations of Animal Crossing games.
Sure, we may say – there are many missing features, like amount of villagers, missing some mechanics, buildings, etc. But for now, we will have only things been invented so far – merged into one single game.
Releasing those prior to Christmas is a clever decision – may encourage existing players to stick with a game for longer and tempting new customers to buy it.
What major content could be added, keeping the same style of the game?
New island with Animal Crossing Racing? Animal Crossing Breath of The Wild? Animal Crossing Pokemon Hunter? Don’t think so.
Not expecting anything from other farming games, like having animals, pets – or exploring mines, as it will not serve any purposes and would change idea of the game itself.
Honestly, I never believed – and it looks, I was wrong – Nintendo will create ultimate version of Animal Crossing, as I suspected they may want to release another anytime soon. I was suspected, they may re-create-re-design original one, with better textures or revive ACNL – but now, they gave everything is possible (in their way).
I don’t really believe, they may admit – and say at some point, we were wrong – and now, we will give a chance to increase size of the main island, x2, x4, x8 – because we understood, it’s not enough space for everything you may want to achieve.
Sure, we may say – there are many missing features, like amount of villagers, missing some mechanics, buildings, etc. But for now, we will have only things been invented so far – merged into one single game.
Releasing those prior to Christmas is a clever decision – may encourage existing players to stick with a game for longer and tempting new customers to buy it.
What major content could be added, keeping the same style of the game?
New island with Animal Crossing Racing? Animal Crossing Breath of The Wild? Animal Crossing Pokemon Hunter? Don’t think so.
Not expecting anything from other farming games, like having animals, pets – or exploring mines, as it will not serve any purposes and would change idea of the game itself.
Honestly, I never believed – and it looks, I was wrong – Nintendo will create ultimate version of Animal Crossing, as I suspected they may want to release another anytime soon. I was suspected, they may re-create-re-design original one, with better textures or revive ACNL – but now, they gave everything is possible (in their way).
I don’t really believe, they may admit – and say at some point, we were wrong – and now, we will give a chance to increase size of the main island, x2, x4, x8 – because we understood, it’s not enough space for everything you may want to achieve.
empressbethie
Senior Member
I think we'll get a good indication if this is the end if they permanently patch in the holidays.
Otherwise, they're going to have to do little updates a few times a year, just with the holidays, a couple of new items and maybe some bug fixes. Or leave the game without Toy Day, Halloween, Festivale.... but I think they know they'd be inviting pitchforks to Nintendo HQ if they did that.
Otherwise, they're going to have to do little updates a few times a year, just with the holidays, a couple of new items and maybe some bug fixes. Or leave the game without Toy Day, Halloween, Festivale.... but I think they know they'd be inviting pitchforks to Nintendo HQ if they did that.
Monokuma73
Senior Member
This is / was a valid point. If the update(s) meant to be the last one, I'm expecting all holidays should be freed. I would accept idea for holidays to be repetitive, but re-inventing wheel over and over will not bring anything major, and there is no reason to update holidays over and over, just to prove "we are still updating your game".
I would say more, I would prefer to have same holidays over and over instead of time locking them, and make players dependable on their future good will and in worst case scenario leave players without holidays at all.
JammerHammer
bean enthusiast
If they made the arcade machines functional with multiplayer functionality and locked it behind a $15 pay wall, I am pretty sure most of us would buy that no questions asked.
i’m not worried per-say, but i’m definitely a little bit bummed that it seems like some stuff i was hoping for, such as dr. shrunk, other missing npcs (katie, blanca, gracie and more), minigames, etc won’t be making it into new horizons after all. now don’t get me wrong, i’m ecstatic about and grateful for the new update and all that it’s bringing, but i definitely would’ve loved to see all of the other missing npcs again. oh well. 
i personally wouldn’t mind some more paid DLC down the line, or even sporadic smaller updates, but if this upcoming update is it for new features and characters, then i’m content. we’re getting way more amazing content than i even thought possible — content that’ll definitely keep me occupied for a while, which is all i can ask for. some more content one day, even if small, would be great, but i’m content either way. :’)
i personally wouldn’t mind some more paid DLC down the line, or even sporadic smaller updates, but if this upcoming update is it for new features and characters, then i’m content. we’re getting way more amazing content than i even thought possible — content that’ll definitely keep me occupied for a while, which is all i can ask for. some more content one day, even if small, would be great, but i’m content either way. :’)
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Reginald Fairfield
Senior Member
So that means no Gracie sets, Nook shop upgrades or Club Tortimer?
What else did New Leaf have that we don't have now?
What else did New Leaf have that we don't have now?
I have read the interviews and Ninten comments, and I am totally on board the “this is it” wagon. I think we will get small updates a la spring/summer 2021 that unlock holidays and add an item or two, but to me, Nintendo is clear nothing major will be coming to ACNH.
As others above mentioned, the lack of more multiplayer mechanics is puzzling, given that the Switch relies heavily on this, but that is something I can live without. I don’t care that much about Cranny upgrades or Gracie, especially since I see Harv’s Island Redux as the replacement for these. It’s sad to see so many fans upset about the lack of inclusion of these things, but at the end of the day, this is ACNH and not ACNL2. We were never guaranteed to get every single ACNL feature back in a new title. That said, I see the next AC title going back to its roots as a town builder with ACNH design functionality— that is my guess, anyway.
As others above mentioned, the lack of more multiplayer mechanics is puzzling, given that the Switch relies heavily on this, but that is something I can live without. I don’t care that much about Cranny upgrades or Gracie, especially since I see Harv’s Island Redux as the replacement for these. It’s sad to see so many fans upset about the lack of inclusion of these things, but at the end of the day, this is ACNH and not ACNL2. We were never guaranteed to get every single ACNL feature back in a new title. That said, I see the next AC title going back to its roots as a town builder with ACNH design functionality— that is my guess, anyway.
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QueenOpossum
Trash Queen
The issue that Nintendo sees with that - as well as other companies - is the one and done method leads to less discussion.
I'm going to use TV because thats an easy frame of reference for me. Netflix always drops their content with the full season at a time. Many people binge it - so theres a bunch of articles all at once, and discussion, and then...2 weeks later, its done. No more discussion (AKA free advertising). Compared to a weekly release - every week theres articles about that episode, and whats next. And people message their friends, and talk at work, etc etc. "Did you see what happened? Whats gonna happen next week?" etc etc. Often viewing numbers go up every week as people tell their friends to tune in or people want to know what everyone is talking about.
(Obviously Netflix prefers their all-at-once model, but its a big debate between consumers who prefer to binge on their schedule and the fact that most of the other streamers do weekly releases (Hulu, Amazon Prime, etc.)
Its the same with video games. Every time Animal Crossing does an update, Polygon and Kotaku and AnimalCrossingWorld etc etc etc write articles and people text their friends about the new things and post on Instagram with new features...Free advertising. With games, it also has a few other benefits - longer to work on specific features and player feedback on what they like/is important to them (like the changes to the Bunny day spawn rates).
Business is a tug of war between what is best for the consumer and what is best for the company. You may not want your experience to be effected by Nintendo (and most companies) wanting free advertising...but thats how big companies work nowadays.
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