Mafia Death by Design: An Animal Crossing Mafia [day2]

[Seroja]

true, it can't be all VTs are unawares since night results. ****ing duh I need to stop panicking and overanalyzing

Seroja, you seem to have missed my incredulous response to Ness. I'll paraphrase: "There's 333 villagers in ACNL and you expect me to believe you? You can pick one out of a hat and odds are you'd be fine."

No, my doubt is mainly because I could be insane to balance out all the PRs. Ness could be unaware too, but I think it's likely I could be crazy, OR maf messed with my results. There's too much uncertainty going on for me to know for sure ness is scum.

He has given a terrible and (dare I say) really fake sounding defense. (How he keeps on repeating "I am outraged! I am upset!" etc. etc. yeah ofc you'd be upset if you were found scum, why do you keep saying it over and over?) And in the absence of alternatives (which I asked for a couple posts ago ICYMI), ness might be our only real option here.

But calling me a phony after the mods intervened to tell us all this is experimental, at a rather critical juncture in the game, is a bit laughable imho. There's a reason we're all in such disarray, since we're trying to figure out what the hell is going on in Kirby/Bianca's setup here

Okay that may have flown over my head. Anyway alright if we're gonna trust you then we're gonna lynch Ness.

 

[amazonevan19]

I can totally see 2 masons, a doc, a crazy cop, and/or an unaware miller in an experimental setup, with my craziness and ness's miller-ness being used as "balancing." Idk why Kirby wouldn't have mafs also be a little bit more powerful even if we assume all of the previous is true.

Still don't see anyone but ness as a good lynch candidate though rn. I mean, other than me, Kappa

 

[Seroja]

Let's see

Fleshy- townlock
Kallie- town, I believe your claim since you've been my strongest town read anyway
Waffles- leaning town cos of devil may care attitude
Tom- TP
Evan- ok rn I'm just gonna put u down as cop ok

Toads- beginning to feel like toads play rn is similar to SU2, back to null
Zendel- wasn't really scummy but not really leaning town, null
Ness- srsly not liking his latest posts tbh idk. Just doesn't feel like the usual town Ness so far.

I realize my reads on ppl hv been rather ****ty n inaccurate lately but there u have it.

 

[radical6]

k this is plurality so day wont end any faster so we have all this time to discuss.

if ness flips town

-unfortunately, this means evan is either insane or ness was framed. in the event ness flips miller then we can predict evan is a reliable cop i guess.

however, i think the event of evan being an insane cop is more likely than ness being framed. so any town inspections = scum.

however, if we have an insane cop this means mafia does not have a godfather (pretty much useless for an insane cop imo if the cop doesnt know theyre insane) OR roleblocker (why not rb me or evan? there is no reason..unless of course they dont even have a roleblocker. one of us shouldve been blocked)

so, this begs the question, just what does mafia have up their sleeve?

now remember, in our role pms (besides scum) it says we win once mafia is eliminated. this means there is no hostile third party and we can focus on one faction.

so..all the bad roles and **** will be going to the mafia. but again nothing too crazy happened last night besides one kill..

HOWEVER, there is also a chance that evan is a paranoid cop (everyone returns mafia, so his role is basically useless).

if ness flips scum

-cool, k, we can probably look into waffles/toads/zendel/tom from here. seroja im townreading but isnt confirmed in my eyes but i have a less priority to read

 

[unravel]

You know what because the op mention that is game is experimental ill just let Evan go for now

Spoiler: i dont wanna save this in my laptop so imma leave it here

besides evan we have

-tom who loves to claim power roles as scum (lets count the 50000 times he claimed blue as scum to save his ass)
-ness who just uses band camp as an excuse to not say anything like last game and keeps signing up for whatever reason unless hes using bandcamp as an excuse
-once evan flips ill be looking at mog and her reasons to not lynch him

Making excuse so he wont get suspected hmm`

Scumleans:

Ness - coasting, giving little reason for his posts/reads. While my theory was BS my suspicion of his continued backing me up is still relevant - not because he is townreading me, but because I feel he's doing it for poor reasons. I understand business but he's normally more vocal when he's town.

Ness is confused and freaking out why hes next

What the hell???? No I am not scum! I come online to check results to find out I'm being god damn framed!

Seriously I check for one second and then Evan is trying to say that I'm scum? I am NOT scum, I am Chevre, The Townie. I admit that I have been kinda lazy today not giving my post like I said I would but this game has been incredibly inconvenient for me in a lot of aspects of time/having a hard time giving thoughts. I IMPLORE all of you; Do not lynch me.

He claims Vanilla Townie and suddenly starts panicking if youre really a town u shudnt be panicking unless youre hiding someting right? #food4thoughts

God, I don't even know right now. I'm so confused and I have a headache from the fact that I'm being lynched. I can't tell if whether or not his is LYLO now but if it is then maybe Evan is mafia framing me?? I had him as Town earlier in the game but now I'm so invredibly confused about everything! I feel as if me being miller wouldn't make any sense because I'm some random ass villager so I'd Leann towards a frame??

I swear to GOD if you lynch me I'm going to scream.

Hi Zendel where r u

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might as well go deeper tonight ( ͡? ͜ʖ ͡?)

 

[Biancasbotique]

Dear guys,

After much deliberation, Kirby and I have decided to stop the game at this point. You all had been wonderful, and we feel that at this point, continuing on further will be not be the best course for both mafia and town. We would like to apologize to you all because as much as we want to continue with the game (and we really do--- we are going back and forth--whether to save the game or not)- but seeing your posts and how you are all still willing to still continue amidst the confusion and my mistakes--we really are truly grateful but it will not be fair for everyone. When I originally planned this mafia, I wasn't thinking about balance, and more like staying true to the nature of my story of two sisters, mable and Sable and how they will fight off Mafia. My intent was to blend a story with what is happening. But as the story unravels, I could now see how not balanced it is.

I asked Kirby for help and he did his best to balance my roles considering the number of enrollments, and my desire to have certain roles in there. I overlooked what repercussion it might have with the game just to have the characters in there. I really want my first Mafia to be story driven based on your actions. But as it turns out, I have to mix story and making sure everything is balanced.
At first, the set up was too mafia sided, and after compromise and lots of talk, we have come up with a set up like this. We didn't know it will be too town sided until it has come to fruition.

From Kirby: This game was made to be a quick game, however it was going to keep the 48/24cycle. I wanted to keep the 1KP system because there wasn’t that many players and I feel like it would be better balanced with so few players and I still think so. I think the only blue role I should of removed was the doc. as I felt that town was at a disadvantage with the ratio and the *** modkills.

We apologize again, and thank you so much!


Sincerely,

Bianca and Kirby

PS: To Kirby, thank you so much for letting me co-host with you. I know that you really tried to make this game perfect for everyone, as I too but my crazy ideas cannot happen with the amount of people we have. Thank you so much for being patient, and I apologize too for my mistakes. You really want to see this mafia till the end and make it successful, and I am sorry if we cannot make that happen. I really had a great time co hosting this with you..

 

[N e s s]

God...the REASON I panicked earlier was because I was under the assumption we were in LYLO. I'm not playingthe "Dansel in distress" card, I'm honestly frustrated that I'm being framed.

If you want to lynch me, go ahead. You're all wrong about me being scum anyway + It's not LYLO so there isn't any disadvantage here and proves Evan (Maybe?).

In the event you do choose me, just know that these are my scumleans right now: Seroja/ITYW/Zendel. I'll make my thoughts in the morning because I'll actually have time to do it then.

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Dear guys,

After much deliberation, Kirby and I have decided to stop the game at this point. You all had been wonderful, and we feel that at this point, continuing on further will be not be the best course for both mafia and town. We would like to apologize to you all because as much as we want to continue with the game (and we really do--- we are going back and forth--whether to save the game or not)- but seeing your posts and how you are all still willing to still continue amidst the confusion and my mistakes--we really are truly grateful but it will not be fair for everyone. When I originally planned this mafia, I wasn't thinking about balance, and more like staying true to the nature of my story of two sisters, mable and Sable and how they will fight off Mafia. My intent was to blend a story with what is happening. But as the story unravels, I could now see how not balanced it is.

I asked Kirby for help and he did his best to balance my roles considering the number of enrollments, and my desire to have certain roles in there. I overlooked what repercussion it might have with the game just to have the characters in there. I really want my first Mafia to be story driven based on your actions. But as it turns out, I have to mix story and making sure everything is balanced.
At first, the set up was too mafia sided, and after compromise and lots of talk, we have come up with a set up like this. We didn't know it will be too town sided until it has come to fruition.

From Kirby: This game was made to be a quick game, however it was going to keep the 48/24cycle. I wanted to keep the 1KP system because there wasn’t that many players and I feel like it would be better balanced with so few players and I still think so. I think the only blue role I should of removed was the doc. as I felt that town was at a disadvantage with the ratio and the *** modkills.

We apologize again, and thank you so much!

Sincerely,

Bianca and Kirby

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[toadsworthy]

God...the REASON I panicked earlier was because I was under the assumption we were in LYLO. I'm not playingthe "Dansel in distress" card, I'm honestly frustrated that I'm being framed.

If you want to lynch me, go ahead. You're all wrong about me being scum anyway + It's not LYLO so there isn't any disadvantage here and proves Evan (Maybe?).

In the event you do choose me, just know that these are my scumleans right now: Seroja/ITYW/Zendel. I'll make my thoughts in the morning because I'll actually have time to do it then.

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......Okay I guess I'm done acting now?

it was a good effort....

 

[Biancasbotique]

Sorry guys... :-(

 

[toadsworthy]

this set up was 2 masons, 1 doctor, 1 cop... a survivor I guess? and mafia was told at the start our KP would stay at 1
we had a godfather/ framer/ goon to combat all this, and fought to make our KP normal



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https://www.quicktopic.com/52/H/4GeUT87ju3CmB

I hope its ok I post this, but i know everyone will be eager to see it too

 

[N e s s]

Alright. A few things I want to say:

1. I have never felt more unmotivated/frustrated to play as mafia before. I don't even know if I want to play in Toad's game because of how unbalanced the last 3 games have been and I'm getting sick of it. I will give Bianca/Kirby the benefit of the doubt given they're both relatively inexperienced hosts, but seriously. This game annoyed me beyond belief.

2. We were going to try to pull off an Evan lynch for this cycle but Bianca posting "THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL SET-UP BTW" practically screamed to the entire thread that Evan was Town and he was right about me. We figured afterwards we would go for the "Evan is insane theory!" But to be honest there was any rainbow at the end of that tunnel and I was getting lynched for an unfair reason.

3. Nobody understands my town meta anymore lol, I would never claim townie as scum so that's why I did it this game.

4. Evan you literally guessed the entire scum team, I tip my fedora to you (classy).

 

[Biancasbotique]

The set up was actually 2 masons 1 doctor, 1 cop , 1 mayor (to stop a lynch) , and survivor..

mafia had goon, framer and godfather

The rest are townies

 

[unravel]

HAHAHAHAHA I KNEW THIS GAME WILL END EARLY

dats why wasnt obs taking seriously the whole game

 

[toadsworthy]

Alright. A few things I want to say:

1. I have never felt more unmotivated/frustrated to play as mafia before. I don't even know if I want to play in Toad's game because of how unbalanced the last 3 games have been and I'm getting sick of it. I will give Bianca/Kirby the benefit of the doubt given they're both relatively inexperienced hosts, but seriously. This game annoyed me beyond belief.

2. We were going to try to pull off an Evan lynch for this cycle but Bianca posting "THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL SET-UP BTW" practically screamed to the entire thread that Evan was Town and he was right about me. We figured afterwards we would go for the "Evan is insane theory!" But to be honest there was any rainbow at the end of that tunnel and I was getting lynched for an unfair reason.

3. Nobody understands my town meta anymore lol, I would never claim townie as scum so that's why I did it this game.

4. Evan you literally guessed the entire scum team, I tip my fedora to you (classy).

I'll always be mafia with you
Seroja had us all down too in her last post lol

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I suggest just running through scenarios of things that can happen when working on balancing a game or planning out the roles

 

[Biancasbotique]

HAHAHAHAHA I KNEW THIS GAME WILL END EARLY

dats why wasnt obs taking seriously the whole game

We did put effort into this. We did not put this out there just to make this a joke. We already feel rotten about it. Must you say those things?

 

[unravel]

HAHAHAHAHA I KNEW THIS GAME WILL END EARLY

dats why wasnt obs taking seriously the whole game

OI FAROBI I TOLD YOU TO JOIN THE GAME

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We did put effort into this. We did not put this out there just to make this a joke. We already feel rotten about it. Must you say those things?

dont take it in a rotten way dude its already my guess from the start just like Zendel's game dude its normal everybody makes mistakes chill

 

[Biancasbotique]

Alright. A few things I want to say:

1. I have never felt more unmotivated/frustrated to play as mafia before. I don't even know if I want to play in Toad's game because of how unbalanced the last 3 games have been and I'm getting sick of it. I will give Bianca/Kirby the benefit of the doubt given they're both relatively inexperienced hosts, but seriously. This game annoyed me beyond belief.

2. We were going to try to pull off an Evan lynch for this cycle but Bianca posting "THIS IS AN EXPERIMENTAL SET-UP BTW" practically screamed to the entire thread that Evan was Town and he was right about me. We figured afterwards we would go for the "Evan is insane theory!" But to be honest there was any rainbow at the end of that tunnel and I was getting lynched for an unfair reason.

3. Nobody understands my town meta anymore lol, I would never claim townie as scum so that's why I did it this game.

4. Evan you literally guessed the entire scum team, I tip my fedora to you (classy).

Thank you Ness! and dont be frustrated! I am pretty sure toads will be awesome..I am sorry again

 

[N e s s]

@Bianca please don't let this game discourage you from hosting. For what it's worth, I didn't think you didn't make that many mistake. However, you can't be biased with 1 side or the other when hosting. You posting "this game is experimental" at such an inconvenient time practically killed all of my chances of surviving the phase and I would have died no matter what I said given Evan was my only contender.

 

[unravel]

Anyway I'm Tutu the townie i gave a hint cuz i really feel unmotivated compare to Zendel's game

 

[Biancasbotique]

I'll always be mafia with you
Seroja had us all down too in her last post lol

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I suggest just running through scenarios of things that can happen when working on balancing a game or planning out the roles

Thanks toad! It was the best we could come up with as I really wanted the sisters to be there, and of course there's the cop which is a must ..I think..