The biggest red flag that I see from Evan is his lack of activity after defending himself from Punchy, it's like it's the only reason he ended up coming to the thread, having maybe a dozen posts afterwards. It shows that he doesn't have any particular connection to the game overall. I'm going to go over his posts after his defense
I don’t really feel connected because I feel like I’m playing poorly, especially after the Vanessa mislynch, plus my inactivity because of IRL stuff. But I’m trying my hardest and I don’t want to make another mistake or be inactive for long stretches again.
I've stated why I don't like this post previously I believe, and it's because in no world does Vanessa come in saying, well, that, for the sole reason to make her teammate feel better or protect her.
1. It isn't really conductive to a townlean
2. If it was to comfort her, she'd do it in their quicktopic (as he suggests in bold)
Hindsight is 20/20 and it turns out I was wrong on this, so points for you
Gee, isn't he so much more rational once he's milked a townread from our poor new Dedenne? I'm gonna give this a official rating of "meh"
If I really wanted dedenne to trust me, the best way to start is to scumread her and ask her probing questions
And gee, isn't this 180 convienient. Evan's biggest tell, in my opinion, is townreading teammates who he really shouldn't (ex. The cop inspected FN1 in Francise Wars). Byngo goes from being on the backburner up to a townlean with me and Punchy, and the logic here is honestly really weak. He even concedes that her style of posting is scummy.
I did not find much reason or evidence to consistently scumread Byngo like most of us did up until that point. Tbh I should have put her in nulls.
I should have seen this and red flagged this earlier. Going for a concession pick rather than using logic. This allowed him to advocate for a Vanessa lynch while letting Dedenne skate by. I'd say his motivations here are to allow him to go with the majority and get momentum off of Byngo, though there's no telling in all honesty. I'd say another possibility is that he was bussing Dedenne earlier, but he would have found a way to townlean her I feel.
Lmao pick my damn teammate already. You seem kind of set on byngo but then pivot to dedenne being my teammate? I wanted Vanessa dead, then she towntelled in my view. Why would I want to let dedenne skate by at that point when I still felt Vanessa/dedenne was a possibility?
Overall, this is fine, though I still don't like disavowing Byngo in this post
Disavowing byngo? You mean still townreading her?
This is just bad
To the first of two sections, this is trying to make you look better than you actually were, you helped perpetuate that she was scum for it (tbf, I did say that it was non-alignment indicative, as I knew I'm town and not scum with her), and Ness was the lead trying to drag the lynch off of Vanessa. Even Punchywanted the lynch off of Vanessa. This purposely overstates your involvement in the fight to get the lynch off her and puts it on your shoulders to make you look better.
Have already stated in my last post that I was not very involved in getting the lynch off of Vanessa, but I did state my doubts about her being scum and switched my vote. I’m not a leader in this game but am trying to get discussion and answers from people.
The second section, trying to drum up sympathy, distancing from Byngo now that she isn't up for lynch, and the excuse for only being active when defending yourself from Punchy. I'd also expect more content during the night, as this has been your last post for two freaking days, but w/e
Byngo was still being widely scumread at that point. There has not been a point this game where people haven’t widely scumread Byngo. I changed my opinion on Byngo since her passive nature this game (not the lack of posts, she’s had plenty; rather the content and tone of the posts) is not town indicative for me. I didn’t post much because I was busy and wanted to come back with more fully thought out opinions on who I felt was possible scum.
- - - Post Merge - - -
"I cannot discount it"
Have you not learned by now how much I think bussing is a stupid strategy, I think I've made that clear for a while now. And you sorta disproved yourself without even realizing it. I am not you. Therefore, something that you're know to do as mafia does not apply to me.
Maybe Byngo is your partner and you're just trying to bus her :eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
You act as if your scum play is some inviolable law of nature. I believe it's important to question everything, even very basic assumptions, about players and their playstyles. Sure, you think bussing is stupid, and you haven't done so until this point. Does that mean you won't ever bus and hide behind "I hate bussing" in the future...or now?
Yes, it's more or less me begging the question here, and as I've already said, I doubt it's true. I'm much more inclined to think it's ITYW/Byngo than you/Byngo, but there's always the possibility that I could be right.
