Donald Trump's cabinet picks

[Haskell]

It's funny. People are saying they would leave the country if Trump got elected, which he did.

Either they didn't leave... or they're "fleeing" to an even more "white nation" like Canada. Why not go to Mexico? Haha... I'm dying with the hypocrisy.

 

[Jarrad]

It's funny. People are saying they would leave the country if Trump got elected, which he did.

Either they didn't leave... or they're "fleeing" to an even more "white nation" like Canada. Why not go to Mexico? Haha... I'm dying with the hypocrisy.

People said they'd kill themselves if he was elected.

idk sometimes people take politics far too seriously. Trump becoming president isn't the end of the world. It doesn't give him the authority to blow up China or something.

I'm British - I voted to leave Britain. I don't think that Trump is the perfect electee that could have been elected (Bernie would have probably been better, but he wasn't a natural leader + he wasn't the republican candidate). I think Trump will be exactly what America needs, though. He has a backbone, and the west has become far too soft (england included). America needs a leader like Trump.

 

[Haskell]

Who even said he would blow up China? Not him. Not his administration. The people against him getting elected.

He is putting out a message that we won't be jacked up on our trade deals anymore. If you want a good relationship and act on getting a good relationship, we'll do the same. Not a big probo.

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People said they'd kill themselves if he was elected.

(Bernie would have probably been better, but he wasn't a natural leader + he wasn't the republican candidate).

Democrats have won the last two elections. For them to win a third was unlikely. Also, Bernie would have put us downhill. Look at how France is doing. Similar values and propositions..

 

[Jarrad]

Who even said he would blow up China? Not him. Not his administration. The people against him getting elected.

He is putting out a message that we won't be jacked up on our trade deals anymore. If you want a good relationship and act on getting a good relationship, we'll do the same. Not a big probo.

I was making a joke out of what people think he'll be able to do now that he'll be the next president. I agree, that the followers of the adjacent party did so much fear-mongering to deter people voting for him.

Trump + trading with uk post-brexit (assuming he'll still be in office by the time it happens) = Good

I also think a lot of what trump said to agitate liberals and gain votes (like building a wall and enforcing a ban on muslims entering the country) was just mongering. Now that he's actually in a position of true power he'll take what he said back regarding the inhumane things and devise a sensible humane strategy towards illegal immigrants from Mexico and Islamic extremists.

 

[Cynicat]

Who even said he would blow up China? Not him. Not his administration. The people against him getting elected.

He is putting out a message that we won't be jacked up on our trade deals anymore. If you want a good relationship and act on getting a good relationship, we'll do the same. Not a big probo.


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Democrats have won the last two elections. For them to win a third was unlikely. Also, Bernie would have put us downhill. Look at how France is doing. Similar values and propositions..

How is that unlikely? Clinton DID win the popular vote after all. Also I'm pretty sure that if they would have chosen a less unpopular person than Clinton democrats might have won.

 

[Haskell]

I was making a joke out of what people think he'll be able to do now that he'll be the next president. I agree, that the followers of the adjacent party did so much fear-mongering to deter people voting for him.

Trump + trading with uk post-brexit (assuming he'll still be in office by the time it happens) = Good

I also think a lot of what trump said to agitate liberals and gain votes (like building a wall and enforcing a ban on muslims entering the country) was just mongering. Now that he's actually in a position of true power he'll take what he said back regarding the inhumane things and devise a sensible humane strategy towards illegal immigrants from Mexico and Islamic extremists.

I know you don't believe that he will actually blow up China. lol

But, for the wall I have explained this. Many countries build a wall. Walls work against ILLEGAL immigration. Mexico and Guatemala built a wall (call it a fence if it makes anyone feel better). Trump just proposes and promises what works.

Now the ban on Muslims entering the country was a bit extreme but the man is seventy years old. With the democrats working against him, it'd be hard to do anything. In his defense though, he was putting out a message or trying to that we have to make sure that we aren't just letting anyone into this country, especially from regions of terror.

Anyone who knows me knows that I've had a Muslim friend, in which I went to NASA with him and his family. If anything I'm a bit biased against Christians.

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How is that unlikely? Clinton DID win the popular vote after all. Also I'm pretty sure that if they would have chosen a less unpopular person than Clinton democrats might have won.

The electoral college is much more sophisticated and challenging. If it was for the popular vote, Trump would have campaigned differently.

It is unlikely because if you look at past elections, it is common that the individual who won the election is obligated to a different party than the past POTUS. It's "I don't like what this party did, so I'm going to vote for this party."

 

[Cynicat]

I know you don't believe that he will actually blow up China. lol

But, for the wall I have explained this. Many countries build a wall. Walls work against ILLEGAL immigration. Mexico and Guatemala built a wall. (call it a fence if it makes anyone feel better). Trump is just proposes and promising what works.

Now the ban on Muslims entering the country was a bit extreme but the man is seventy years old. With the democrats working against him, it'd be hard to do anything. In his defense though, he was putting out a message or trying to that we have to make sure that we aren't just letting anyone into this country, especially from regions of terror.

Anyone who knows me knows that I've had a Muslim friend, in which I went to NASA with him and his family. If anything I'm a bit biased against Christians.

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The electoral college is much more sophisticated and challenging. If it was for the popular vote, Trump would have campaigned differently.

Possibly yes. But that still doesn't mean democrats couldn't have won if they didn't chose Clinton for the Democratic Party. Also there is no proof that he would have campaigned differently (I'm not saying he might have done that, since I have no proof either to support the opposite). But he is known for changing his opions on different things A LOT. In 2012 he called electoral college a disaster but now he has won he doesn't anymore..

https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/266038556504494082?lang=en

 

[Haskell]

Possibly yes. But that still doesn't mean democrats couldn't have won if they didn't chose Clinton for the Democratic Party. Also there is no proof that he would have campaigned differently (I'm not saying he might have done that, since I have no proof either to support the opposite). But he is known for changing his opions on different things A LOT. In 2012 he called electoral college a disaster but now he has won he doesn't anymore..

https://mobile.twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/266038556504494082?lang=en

Don't talk about changing opinions. Hillary Clinton has changed her opinion on many things. Running against Barack - against gay marriage. Running against Trump - for gay marriage.
^ that's just one example.

You can't prove someone would have campaigned differently in a hypothetical situation. I think a lot of people can see that both candidates would have campaigned differently if it was for the popular vote.

He doesn't talk about how the electoral college is screwed up because he has more pressing matters. I can understand why you see it your way though. I think the electoral college electoral votes should split up over who won what county, etc. Each state splits up the electoral votes. Like Maine does. Another state does it too but I forget what state it is. I want to say Georgia but I'm not sure.

 

[Cynicat]

Don't talk about changing opinions. Hillary Clinton has changed her opinion on many things. Running against Barack - against gay marriage. Running against Trump - for gay marriage.
^ that's just one example.

You can't prove someone would have campaigned differently in a hypothetical situation. I think a lot of people can see that both candidates would have campaigned differently if it was for the popular vote.

He doesn't talk about how the electoral college is screwed up because he has more pressing matters. I can understand why you see it your way though. I think the electoral college electoral votes should split up over who won what county, etc. Each state splits up the electoral votes. Like Maine does. Another state does it too but I forget what state it is. I want to say Georgia but I'm not sure.

I'm not actually a Clinton supporter. I would have much rather see Bernie as president, and I'll admit I rather have Clinton than Trump but I'm not a big fan of her.. And I agree with you that both candidates have changed their opinion a lot.
I do however think Clinton now actually supports gay marriage while trump chose mike pence to be Vice President...

Anyways, where I live we don't have electoral college because we have more than 2 parties (so it wouldn't really work anyways). That might be one of the reasons why I just don't get why you wouldn't have popular vote. I agree that the method used in Maine might be better.

 

[Haskell]

I'm not actually a Clinton supporter. I would have much rather see Bernie as president, and I'll admit I rather have Clinton than Trump but I'm not a big fan of her.. And I agree with you that both candidates have changed their opinion a lot.
I do however think Clinton now actually supports gay marriage while trump chose mike pence to be Vice President...

Anyways, where I live we don't have electoral college because we have more than 2 parties (so it wouldn't really work anyways). That might be one of the reasons why I just don't get why you wouldn't have popular vote. I agree that the method used in Maine might be better.

Not changed their opinion. Good chance. I said change how they campaigned, or at least that's what I meant to put out.

Bernie was cheated out by the DNC. That wasn't right. But I don't like him. Look at France, they're failing. Bernie has similar values and propositions.

I'm gay and as you can see idrc about stances against LGBT. I think that we will be able to still love who we want to because there is a lot of people who are fighting for it.

 

[Cynicat]

Not changed their opinion. Good chance. I said change how they campaigned, or at least that's what I meant to put out.

Bernie was cheated out by the DNC. That wasn't right. But I don't like him. Look at France, they're failing. Bernie has similar values and propositions.

I'm gay and as you can see idrc about stances against LGBT. I think that we will be able to still love who we want to because there is a lot of people who are fighting for it.

I don't think values are what is wrong in French, economics definitely are. People are dissatisfied. Populism takes over and we get people like le Pen. I don't think thats a good solution. But they do need someone who knows how to fix their economy and they don't have that person at the moment.
Im a little less positive about the future of LGBT people in America, but I do think that as long people keep fighting for what they believe there is no reason to give up.

 

[misakixx]

i dont even know those guys since im not american but trump is still ***** so his cabinet too.
They should bring bernie back. My soul cries everytime i watch bernie come back on youtube.

 

[Haskell]

I don't think values are what is wrong in French, economics definitely are. People are dissatisfied. Populism takes over and we get people like le Pen. I don't think thats a good solution. But they do need someone who knows how to fix their economy and they don't have that person at the moment.
Im a little less positive about the future of LGBT people in America, but I do think that as long people keep fighting for what they believe there is no reason to give up.

America is the best country to express yourself in. Be LGBT. Whatever. Be less positive.
I was talking about France's economic and immigration policies.

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i dont even know those guys since im not american but trump is still ***** so his cabinet too.
They should bring bernie back. My soul cries everytime i watch bernie come back on youtube.

You obviously know nothing about American politics. Bernie can't come back.

 

[Cynicat]

America is the best country to express yourself in. Be LGBT. Whatever. Be less positive.
I was talking about France's economic and immigration policies.

I disagree, America legalized gay marriage in 2015 which is not that long ago, the first country to legalize gay marriage did this in 2001. Is America a lot better than other places in the world when it comes to expressing yourself? Definitely.

 

[seliph]

America is the best country to express yourself in.

Quietly looks at the recent uprise of neo-nazi nonsense

Hmm seems legit

 

[misakixx]

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You obviously know nothing about American politics. Bernie can't come back.[/QUOTE]

i know but it still would be great

 

[Haskell]

I disagree, America legalized gay marriage in 2015 which is not that long ago, the first country to legalize gay marriage did this in 2001. Is America a lot better than other places in the world when it comes to expressing yourself? Definitely.

Imo it's the best country to express yourself in. You can't deny it's in the top 5.

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You obviously know nothing about American politics. Bernie can't come back.

i know but it still would be great[/QUOTE]

No it wouldn't. Our economy would be worse off and there would be uprisings since he didn't win the election, he just came back.

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Quietly looks at the recent uprise of neo-nazi nonsense

Hmm seems legit

*reads this post*

*stares for a second*

*moves on with life*

 

[Cynicat]

Imo it's the best country to express yourself in. You can't deny it's in the top 5.

Top 5 isn't the best. Also I can deny it because America is really big and its really different depending on where you are, which why you can't speak about a whole country if its about this issue. There are certainly places that might be in the top 5, but a lot of places (/states) I'd say don't belong in that list.

 

[seliph]

*reads this post*

*stares for a second*

*moves on with life*

Glad you can just up and move on from the rampant racism, antisemitism, and general bigotry that your new president elect woke up in people. Must be nice.

 

[Haskell]

And this is why I didn't want to post... We were having intellectual conversations until people decided to mess it up.