eating meat or being vegetarian

Deca said:
(Bees are not native to the American continent anyway)
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False. The American Continent has plenty of native bee species. However, Honey Bees were originally imported in from Europe to make honey. Of course, over a few centuries, the wild Honey Bee (Not living on farms, etc.) population in the Americas has risen.

"Native bees are an unappreciated treasure, with 4,000 species from tiny Perdita to large carpenter bees, they can be found anywhere in North America where flowers bloom. Most people don't realize that there were no honey bees in America until the white settlers brought hives from Europe."
 
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Colour Bandit said:
Due to health reasons I cannot become vegetarian or vegan- I stayed with my Aunt for a month a few years ago and she's a strict vegan and she's rather stereotypical in her ways and shoves her veganism down your throat, in that month my health severely deteriorated and she refused to let me eat any animal products so my diet was thrown way off :(

After that I realised that if I want to be as healthy as is possible for me I have to have meat and other animal products in my diet.

Also, I don't understand vegans who make their pets have a vegan diet?
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i dont understand vegans who make their pets have a vegan diet either.
 
Lafiel said:
False. The American Continent has plenty of native bee species. However, Honey Bees were originally imported in from Europe to make honey. Of course, over a few centuries, the wild Honey Bee (Not living on farms, etc.) population in the Americas has risen.

"Native bees are an unappreciated treasure, with 4,000 species from tiny Perdita to large carpenter bees, they can be found anywhere in North America where flowers bloom. Most people don't realize that there were no honey bees in America until the white settlers brought hives from Europe."
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Umm, anymore questions?
 
Deca said:
Umm, anymore questions?
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Your post stated that bees were not Native to the Americas. My post proved that statement incorrect.
Honey Bees are not Native to the Americas, but the Americas had bees before White settlers.
 
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Lafiel said:
Your post stated that bees were not Native to the Americas. My post proved that statement incorrect.
Honey Bees are not Native to the Americas, but the Americas had bees before White settlers.
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bee ≠ honey bee ;-)

"Normal" bees are economically irrelevant.

So what's your point now?
 
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Lafiel said:
(Bees are not native to the American continent anyway)

That this statement is incorrect?
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Are you 12?
I thought it was obvious that I meant honey bees, because I was talking about honey. *roll eyes*
 
Deca said:
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Are you 12?
I thought it was obvious that I meant honey bees, because I was talking about honey. *roll eyes*
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Just didn't want you to spread false information. No need to get hostile.
 
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Used to be vegan. Ended up severely Iron deficient, and pretty sick overall no matter what kind of supplements I took. It's a 'different strokes for different' folks thing.
 
I eat meat and I dont give a **** if youre vegan/vegetarian as long as u dont shove it down my ****ing throat

also I get majorly pissed off when someone forces their carnivorous pet (I;e a cat) to eat a vegan diet. its not healthy for them and it doesnt even make sense???? to do that??? just get a vegan pet like a rabbit or something holy ****
 
debinoresu said:
I eat meat and I dont give a **** if youre vegan/vegetarian as long as u dont shove it down my ****ing throat

also I get majorly pissed off when someone forces their carnivorous pet (I;e a cat) to eat a vegan diet. its not healthy for them and it doesnt even make sense???? to do that??? just get a vegan pet like a rabbit or something holy ****
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Rabbits aren't vegan. They eat meat in the wild. They're scavengers. My last bunny ate chicken and lived 9 years. Not bad at all for a dwarf.
 
Cent said:
Rabbits aren't vegan. They eat meat in the wild. They're scavengers. My last bunny ate chicken and lived 9 years. Not bad at all for a dwarf.
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Actually most small "vegetarian" animals eat little amounts of insects and carcasses... But on the other hand, most carnivore animals (like dogs) eat vegetables too.
 
I am not a vegetarian. I am cool with others being vegetarian as long as they don't shove it around in everyone's faces and, well, you know.
 
I am a meat eater.

I should expand: I think meat provides good nutrients. I do agree that vegetables can provide these nutrients, but i have a hard enough time enjoying 5 a day let alone 7. I hate it when people shove veganism doen my throat. Methods to make meat do need improvments. Saving animals is also good, but if it became banned or what then pigs and cows would become nothing more than pets (and few would take care of them)
 
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I was a vegetarian for almost 2 years once, it ended when I was really hungry and my mom was making chicken or something :/
I tried going vegan but it's pretty difficult. I like cheese & eggs so when I was vegetarian I made a lot of good foods with that. And an occasional ice cream or froyo was nice. Now, I just eat chicken & turkey like for sandwiches. I really hate beef though, and I almost never eat fish, I find it gross.

The thing about being vegetarian is that a lot of people are deficient in so many vitamins. You have to be really strict if you want to commit to it. You can't just remove meat "cold-turkey" after relying on it for most of your life, it starts slow and yeah it's hard at first. You have to eat foods that will balance it out and in turn give you protein & energy. like beans or nuts, etc. there's just so much you can do without focusing on the meat and it actually makes cooking more interesting
 
Isabella said:
I was a vegetarian for almost 2 years once, it ended when I was really hungry and my mom was making chicken or something :/
I tried going vegan but it's pretty difficult. I like cheese & eggs so when I was vegetarian I made a lot of good foods with that. And an occasional ice cream or froyo was nice. Now, I just eat chicken & turkey like for sandwiches. I really hate beef though, and I almost never eat fish, I find it gross.

The thing about being vegetarian is that a lot of people are deficient in so many vitamins. You have to be really strict if you want to commit to it. You can't just remove meat "cold-turkey" after relying on it for most of your life, it starts slow and yeah it's hard at first. You have to eat foods that will balance it out and in turn give you protein & energy. like beans or nuts, etc. there's just so much you can do without focusing on the meat and it actually makes cooking more interesting
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It's also very expensive, because eventually (when you're older) you'll have to start taking quite a few supplements to try and balance out what you missed in your youth. Humans aren't meant for it, but it is doable.
 
Cent said:
It's also very expensive, because eventually (when you're older) you'll have to start taking quite a few supplements to try and balance out what you missed in your youth. Humans aren't meant for it, but it is doable.
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Not true. Vegetarians and even vegans have been around in Asia for hundreds of years, or even longer. (My grandma used to be vegan lol) Very few people could afford meat, and yet Asian cuisine is the healthiest one in the world, and the countries with highest life expectancies are mostly Asian too. Coincidence? I think not.

Just because Westerners aren't used to it, doesn't mean it's generally unhealthy or impossible or that we're not "meant for it".

But oh well. Each to their own.
 
I know I couldn't be a vegan or a vegetarian if I chose too. I am actually not that big of a meat eater considering I normally don't eat pork, ham, steak, or beef. Although, meat is still in the stuff I eatl like pizza and turkey sandwiches. I also can't avoid chicken, hot dogs, and especially burgers. Being a vegan or a vegetarian probably seems harder than it looks. Plus, eating only vegetables every day? I would be miserable.
 
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