So this was my first Fire Emblem game, and I absolutely love it! It has remained my favorite game of the series so far. I really like Siren and the relationship he has with Ike. It seems close enough to suggest romance, but isn't overt. What about everyone else? Do you like this game? What is your favorite part about it? ^-^
Fire Emblem Path of Radiance fans?
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Halloqueen
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Glad to find another person on here who has played this game. 
I love Path of Radiance (and its sequel Radiant Dawn) as well, and they're two of my favorite games in general. My favorite part about the game is probably the different nations all coming together to stop Ashnard, learning to overcome what makes them different and accepting them (except Shinon) and building relationships that in time will come to improve lives all over Tellius. Tolerance is an important thing for me, and you get the impression that this cast of characters are good-hearted people.
I'm also a big fan of the laguz, especially Naesala and the herons. While the transformation bars for laguz were a bit annoying, I overall really liked the general idea and find them really fun additions to the series. The herons are a really fun change to the standard Dancer class seen through the series, and their galdr powers are both interesting thematically and sound nice. Also, Mordecai is an excellent wall who helps out immensely.
Between Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, Tellius became my favorite of the worlds featured in the series. The politics going on over the course of the games are interesting and the story just feels richer than much of the series.
As for what you mentioned about Soren, I'm not one for shipping, but I do appreciate the hints of Soren's interest even though it probably wouldn't develop into anything since Ike seems disinterested in romance and we don't know what gender, if any, he's attracted to.
So yeah, between the story, the fun and challenging maps, and the cool characters, it all coalesces into two of my favorite gaming experiences.
I don't know if you've played Radiant Dawn yet, but if you haven't, I definitely recommend it if you'd like to see more of Ike and company. One thing to note, however, is that depending on the disc, you won't be able to import an Easy save file from Path of Radiance and would need a Normal or higher save file. Reason being, the early prints of the discs had a bug, which they fixed in later printing. There's no real way to tell until you test it, and if it freezes, you know which run it was. There are a few reasons one would want to import the save though; boosting the stats of characters you used in Path of Radiance and giving you extra scenes at the end of the game if you maxed out a certain Support relationship. Oh, and finally, you need to play Radiant Dawn at least two times to get the full potential of the game, because certain events only happen and certain characters only become available to you if you have previously completed a run through the game.
I love Path of Radiance (and its sequel Radiant Dawn) as well, and they're two of my favorite games in general. My favorite part about the game is probably the different nations all coming together to stop Ashnard, learning to overcome what makes them different and accepting them (except Shinon) and building relationships that in time will come to improve lives all over Tellius. Tolerance is an important thing for me, and you get the impression that this cast of characters are good-hearted people.
I'm also a big fan of the laguz, especially Naesala and the herons. While the transformation bars for laguz were a bit annoying, I overall really liked the general idea and find them really fun additions to the series. The herons are a really fun change to the standard Dancer class seen through the series, and their galdr powers are both interesting thematically and sound nice. Also, Mordecai is an excellent wall who helps out immensely.
Between Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, Tellius became my favorite of the worlds featured in the series. The politics going on over the course of the games are interesting and the story just feels richer than much of the series.
As for what you mentioned about Soren, I'm not one for shipping, but I do appreciate the hints of Soren's interest even though it probably wouldn't develop into anything since Ike seems disinterested in romance and we don't know what gender, if any, he's attracted to.
So yeah, between the story, the fun and challenging maps, and the cool characters, it all coalesces into two of my favorite gaming experiences.
I don't know if you've played Radiant Dawn yet, but if you haven't, I definitely recommend it if you'd like to see more of Ike and company. One thing to note, however, is that depending on the disc, you won't be able to import an Easy save file from Path of Radiance and would need a Normal or higher save file. Reason being, the early prints of the discs had a bug, which they fixed in later printing. There's no real way to tell until you test it, and if it freezes, you know which run it was. There are a few reasons one would want to import the save though; boosting the stats of characters you used in Path of Radiance and giving you extra scenes at the end of the game if you maxed out a certain Support relationship. Oh, and finally, you need to play Radiant Dawn at least two times to get the full potential of the game, because certain events only happen and certain characters only become available to you if you have previously completed a run through the game.
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Glad to find another person on here who has played this game.
I love Path of Radiance (and its sequel Radiant Dawn) as well, and they're two of my favorite games in general. My favorite part about the game is probably the different nations all coming together to stop Ashnard, learning to overcome what makes them different and accepting them (except Shinon) and building relationships that in time will come to improve lives all over Tellius. Tolerance is an important thing for me, and you get the impression that this cast of characters are good-hearted people.
I'm also a big fan of the laguz, especially Naesala and the herons. While the transformation bars for laguz were a bit annoying, I overall really liked the general idea and find them really fun additions to the series. The herons are a really fun change to the standard Dancer class seen through the series, and their galdr powers are both interesting thematically and sound nice. Also, Mordecai is an excellent wall who helps out immensely.
Between Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, Tellius became my favorite of the worlds featured in the series. The politics going on over the course of the games are interesting and the story just feels richer than much of the series.
As for what you mentioned about Soren, I'm not one for shipping, but I do appreciate the hints of Soren's interest even though it probably wouldn't develop into anything since Ike seems disinterested in romance and we don't know what gender, if any, he's attracted to.
So yeah, between the story, the fun and challenging maps, and the cool characters, it all coalesces into two of my favorite gaming experiences.
I don't know if you've played Radiant Dawn yet, but if you haven't, I definitely recommend it if you'd like to see more of Ike and company. One thing to note, however, is that depending on the disc, you won't be able to import an Easy save file from Path of Radiance and would need a Normal or higher save file. Reason being, the early prints of the discs had a bug, which they fixed in later printing. There's no real way to tell until you test it, and if it freezes, you know which run it was. There are a few reasons one would want to import the save though; boosting the stats of characters you used in Path of Radiance and giving you extra scenes at the end of the game if you maxed out a certain Support relationship. Oh, and finally, you need to play Radiant Dawn at least two times to get the full potential of the game, because certain events only happen and certain characters only become available to you if you have previously completed a run through the game.
Ah! Yay! A fellow fan! ^-^
Yeah the Laguz and Beorc nations coming together is pretty amazing! I always enjoy the supports between Laguz and Beorc charcters. I especially like the ones between Lethe and Jill since they both grow so much during the supports. Shinon is kind of a bigoted jerk. It's too bad because he is a good unit, but I can't bring myself to use him! Many of the others hate Laguz in the beginning, but get over it. Shinon is just a jerk, so I use Rolf instead. Equality and fairness are very important to me as well, so the theme of racism, or speciesism I guess, makes me love the game even more!
Naesala is amazing and so are Reyson and Leanne! Naesala is such an interesting character with an amazing backstory. I find the Laguz fun in general to use. The transformation bar is annoying, but I find that their speed and dodge is high enough that I could leave them on the front lines when untransformed and they would be fine. Well except for Reyson! Gotta keep him safe since he is so fragile! I love the Herons instead of dancers! I agree that the Galdr is beautiful, and they are so much more interesting! Not to mention it makes more sense that their magical song would reinvigorate a soldier as opposed to a dance! XD Mordecai is really sweet! He is like a big cuddly giant who lets nothing past him! ^-^
I agree about Tellius! It is a fun landscape and the mythos and politics are more interesting to me than the other worlds.
I actually don't ship Soren and Ike either, but I just love the subtlety in their interactions. I am not sure if Soren is actually attracted to Ike (or anyone since the poor guy is so damaged... :<), but I know he is hopelessly devoted to him and would follow him anywhere! Over and over again he goes against his better, and more logical, judgment to please and support Ike. Ike also seems completely uninterested in romance despite my best efforts to hook him up with Elincia! -3-
I have not played Radiant Dawn yet, but I own it. I was a little afraid of it since I heard a lot of negative things about the story/character development. Namely that it ruined the characters after all of the development in Path of Radiance. If you say it is good and doesn't ruin them I will feel better going into it! ^-^ Also I am excited about Sothe being a main character and more useful (and hot... ^///^). I always like Sothe and used him even though he was weak/limited.
Have you ever done themed runs in PoR? I have done an all girl run (well except Ike), a Greil Mercenary run, an all Laguz run (that one is hard!
), and a no Greil Mercenaries run. I have played through the game so many times! XD
Halloqueen
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I will say that while I tend to use Rolf in PoR both for the reason you mentioned and Shinon's lack of availability for much of PoR, Shinon is the best archer in Radiant Dawn. You might want to use him instead in RD because Rolf requires too much work for not enough reward in that game compared to Shinon.
From what I've read in the past, Soren's interest is more up front in the original Japanese script. But regardless of whether any sort of romantic relationship were possible, Ike played an important part in Soren's life (I forget what's revealed in PoR and what's revealed in RD so I'm keeping it vague) so his devotion is understandable.
I find the story to be a fine continuation of Path of Radiance, and there is good character development for numerous characters. That said, since the cast is so big at this point, the Support system was gutted a bit and most of the cast don't have the sort of conversations that they did in PoR or in other games like FE7. It's still useful to raise the Supports though, especially for a few characters.
More of Tellius' past is explained in Radiant Dawn and it plays an important part in the story. Also, more of the inner workings of the different societies are also expanded upon, so that's also a contributing factor for why I like it.
It's a good thing that you like to use Sothe, because if you maxed out any of his stats and transfer them to Radiant Dawn, he turns out better. This is important since he is one of a select few characters who you have to bring to the end game. It's no big deal if you didn't max any stats though, I generally didn't, but it doesn't hurt to have a boost.
I personally prefer Volke as my Thief though. His character is fun, he played an important part in the backstory with Ike's father, he has good utility, and his Radiant Dawn design is nice.
Nah, I've seen folks do those sorts of runs before but I prefer to just leave things open and use whoever I feel like in a certain run. It might be interesting to try it in the future though.Have you ever done themed runs in PoR? I have done an all girl run (well except Ike), a Greil Mercenary run, an all Laguz run (that one is hard!
Instead, I tend to do stuff like nickname Pokemon or characters in other games after some of the characters. One of my New Leaf towns is also an all-bird town whose mayor is everyone's favorite Begnion senator.
Oh, and I also main Ike in Super Smash Bros. for Wii U and I hope that he stays in the series moving forward even though his games aren't as well known compared to the newer releases. His playstyle just gels with me perfectly and he plays so unlike any other swordsman in Smash Bros. I hope they don't just replace him with some other flavor of the month Lord from whatever future release is out at the time of the next Smash Bros. release.
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Aww man! Well hopefully he keeps his mouth shut enough that I don't want to punch him in the face constantly! :<
Oh most definitely! I always max the Ike/Soren supports because I like for Soren to feel accepted by someone so important ot him. He has every reason to be devoted to Ike if you go through the supports to figure out why!
Yeah that is a bit disappointing, but I could get over it. The supports were amazing, but they stretched themselves a bit too thin with the size of the cast. At least there are certain pairings that get important supports and endings! ^-^
Ooh! That sounds fun! I will enjoy that for sure! ^-^
Actually I tend to use both Sothe AND Volke! XD I like thieves? At least my Sothe will be decently leveled before I bring him over! ^-^
I presume you mean the ever handsome Sephiran right? ^.~ LOVE him and was sooo disappointed he didn't join in PoR! :<
I am not a Smash Fan since I am terrible at it, but I am so glad he is in it and controls well! Hopefully they will keep him for the long run! Ike needs more recognition dag nabbit! :<
I loved Path of Radiance! I played it and Radiant Dawn recently, actually. I really got attached to some of the characters. Some of them I liked because of their personalities. Some of them I like just because I enjoyed "raising them." I really loved Tibarn for some reason. I dunno, I just found his kinda bad manners and the way he's always ready for a fight to be amusing. I also really liked Titania. She's just so awesome! The way she's so tough, her awesome long braid... I hope I'm as cool as her in a few years! Lol! I also got attached to Oscar and Kieran. When they classed up, I almost got teary-eyed. Lol. But yeah, the game had a great story as well. I think the story in this game was better than it was in Radiant Dawn.
Welcome my fellow PoR fan! I applaud your excellent taste! ^-^
Haha Tibarn is pretty awesome as well! I like Ulki though and how tired/annoyed he seemed with Janaff and Tibarn all the time! XD I really like Titania as a character, but I must admit I never use her. :< She is too OP and I feel like she makes my runs too easy and steals too much experience. I just use her as a human shield until I don't need her anymore tbh. It's too bad, but she just ruins my play style! :< I know what you mean about 'raising' them! I always get so happy/proud of my little Nephenee when she promotes! She is a freaking powerhouse when she levels up! ^-^
The story really is amazing. It feels real and fleshed out. A lot of Fire Emblem games often end up feeling rushed imo.
Halloqueen
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Nah, think someone even more beautiful. If you know who I mean now, you might think it an odd choice, but I first encountered Path of Radiance when I watched someone I know play it on their livestream years back. They did voices for the characters as they played, and I found him hilarious.
Onto Sephiran though, I agree that he's pretty neat.
Ulki is my favorite Hawk as well, though I generally never fit them onto my teams. I just think his design looks sleek.
I'd recommend using her sometime. It's not really worth it to use her much in the beginning because as you said, she's a pre-promoted unit and eats up valuable experience from your weaker units. But if you start using her around the time the rest of your army starts getting promoted and near her level, she's regarded as the best unit in Path of Radiance and second best, behind Haar, in Radiant Dawn.
Nephenee is amazing in Path of Radiance if you give her enough experience. Definitely always has a spot on my final team.
So, what did you think of Ashnard as the final boss? I tend to be more interested in the main antagonist when they're human like Ashnard or Nergal as opposed to the big dumb giant monsters like in Awakening and Fates. I found Ashnard's philosophy of strength being more important than birthright and his desire to enforce that across the world interesting. He's a real jerk, but he's so much of a jerk that I find him kind of endearing.
Oh, also, what do you think of the soundtrack? I find myself listening to Vow, With Us (the recruitment theme), and Power-hungry Fool a lot. I quite like the overall soundtrack and Radiant Dawn gives us a whole boatload of even more amazing songs.
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Oh! Do you mean Oliver then? Or maybe Valtome? XD
Most definitely! He definitely captures a 'hawk-like' appearance!
Hmm I will have to try that. She is just such a powerhouse/experience hog in the beginning! She is excellent for keeping the knights at bay in Chapter 8! You block that door Titania! ^-^ Keep us safe!
Nephenee is my favorite recruit. Hands down! Next would prob be Soren and then Zihark! ^-^
I really liked him as a boss! I think it is a bit of a copout to make a monster the big baddie... It is much more difficult to make an interesting/complex/believable human villain! I feel like he was very well executed and his motivations, though twisted, were logical. Honestly his opinion that birthright should be irrelevant in comparison to ability was very profound/modern for a medieval society, but the racism and extreme devotion to physical strength ruined him. Honestly I wasn't sad about beating him, but his mount... Well you know... ;^;
Oh man I love the soundtrack! It is amazing! Life Returns is beautiful, and the score in general is great! I really need to make a CD of it or put it on my phone sometime! ^-^
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My first Fire Emblem game was Shadow Dragon on the DS. I have to say that Path of Radiance is one of my favorites.
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Hehe! I like your name! ^-^ I am playing my way through Shadow Dragon right now actually! It is my first time with it, but I do like it so far!
Halloqueen
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Yep, Oliver is the mayor of my bird town. I had Cranston in my original New Leaf town (which I restarted because I was swamped with villagers I didn't like and I didn't know about adoption at the time) and it occurred to me that the Ostrich villagers would be pretty nice allusions to the herons. It expanded to all of the other bird types though, and Knox and Sterling were necessities since they have those knight helmets!
Oh yeah, definitely. Even when trying to use her sparingly for the sake of the rest of the Greil Mercenaries, using her as a shield is definitely worthwhile. It's especially helpful after the first playthrough since you can get those stat-boosting rings from certain enemies and you need to play smart because sometimes there's a limited amount of time to kill the enemy that drops the ring.
I've never really considered who my favorite recruit is in Path of Radiance, but I think I'd might give that honor to Astrid. She does not transition well from Path of Radiance to Radiant Dawn and becomes one of the worst characters in that game, but she is amazing in Path of Radiance if you take the time out to raise her up a bit. Not too difficult either considering her Paragon skill doubles experience gain.
Stefan is a pretty good one too, since his stats are pretty solid, his recruitment is fun, and he has a nice personality and backstory. I tend to save the effort of using Mia or Zihark and just use Stefan as my Swordmaster.
I have to give a shoutout to Marcia, Jill, and Haar too just because flying is so beneficial in Fire Emblem games. Over the years I've become one of those people who just really likes mounted units, especially fliers, because of how much ground they can cover in so little time.
I like Shadow Dragon as well. I prefer PoR, RD, and the Game Boy Advance games, but I still enjoy SD. It seems pretty unpopular since it lacks Supports and because the maps are so big, but I'm cool with it. I just wish it sold better because we never got the sequel, Shin Monshō no Nazo. It's a shame that North America has never gotten to experience Marth's full story since the 1st and 3rd games (Marth's games) were only released in Japan and Shadow Dragon is only the story of the first game.
But I'll stop going down that rabbit hole there, because then we get into how weird it is that Roy is popular here but his game was never released internationally, or how much of a crying shame it is that Fire Emblem Genealogy of the Holy War never got a translation either.
Oh cool! I would love to see your bird town if you ever want me to visit! ^-^
Indeed! I actually am super hardcore about not letting anyone die in Fire Emblem games! I restart the entire game if I lose a unit. They will live! :< I demand it!
See I have never used either of them in a playthrough. I am not a huge fan of horse mounted units and I have already put so much time into Mia and Zihark by the time I get Stefan... I should use him though. His design is wicked, and I like his backstory a lot as well.
I always use both Marcia and Jill, but I have never used Haar. While I don't like horse mounted units, flying units are a must! I love the hawks for this reason! ^-^ Since you say Haar is so good in RD I guess I need to use him some.
I don't like the lack of supports, but the game is fun and solid so it is ok. The sequel would be great... I guess we can always hope the do it right? ^-^ I have never understood why Roy is so popular... His design is kinda lame and we didn't even get his game! :< So bizarre... I know nothing about Genealogy of Holy War so I can't comment on that one.
Halloqueen
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I'd be happy to have you visit! I'll say it's not that remarkable compared to most towns since I don't know what patterns would look good to use for paths or anything, but I figure if anyone can appreciate it, it's someone who is familiar with the Tellius games.
Likewise, I'd be interested in visiting your town sometime.
I'm the same way. I suppose it kind of goes against the idea of permanent death, but if I didn't enjoy the games and characters I wouldn't bother. I'd say that speaks well to the quality of the games.
Is there a particular reason why you dislike units on horseback? Not that you really need a reason to not do something you dislike, but I'm just curious. I'll use a unit of any class as long as the unit in question is good.
Jill is also a good unit in Radiant Dawn, but compartively, Haar gets better stat gains. He basically becomes a flying tank, absorbing hits and doling out great damage. Jill sometimes depends on stat boosting items if the RNG isn't kind when levelling up. Depending on who you want to bring to endgame, those stat boosters might be better suited being given to someone else.
Oh, that's one thing to note about Radiant Dawn. Since the cast is so large and due to the Part system (there are 4 Parts, each with their own chapters), it's best to decide on specific units you want to use and dedicate most of the experience gain to them.
We can hope, though I don't think it will come. I do know there is a fan translation, though I wish when they did those they would release a script you could download or print out or something instead of having to patch it onto an emulator.
Public interest rose exponentially since Awakening, but I don't think they see enough public interest in the older games for them to put in the effort. That said, I don't know how well 7 and Sacred Stones sold on the Virtual Console. Regardless, we'd probably have to wait until whatever handheld replaces the 3DS (Nintendo's president said in an interview the Switch isn't going to replace it) since you can just play DS games on a 3DS anyhow.
It seems like simple nostaglia for Super Smash Bros. Melee, and strangely enough, mostly from people who have no interest in playing Fire Emblem. Most people I've come across who have played Binding Blade (Roy's game) think he is one of the worst Lord characters in the series until he gets the Sword of Seals late in the game.
Genealogy of the Holy War was the fourth game in the series, released for the Super Famicom in 1996. It is generally regarded as having the best story in the series, next to the Tellius games, though which is superior varies by personal taste. Unfortunately, like everything before 7, never translated. I know the general plot from research and quite like it, so it's a bummer that we'll likely never see those games brought over officially.
Welp! We may be the only ones talking about this, but at least it's good, substantial conversation! XD
Well I'm afraid you will have to wait a while for my town. I am in the process of selling off my stuff so I can restart with the special Zelda villagers! ^-^ <3 I will def invite you when it is ready though!
Exactly! It isn't cheating because we aren't restarting individual chapters! ;P I really care about the characters, so I want them to live! My main problem with Fates is honestly that I only want to play Revelation so I don't have to kill anyone... ;^; I don't want them to die! Have you played it yet? Do they demonize the other side so you don't feel bad about killing them?
Hmm... none that I can think of? Maybe it is just that I like my teams to be small/fast/maneuverable? Horses are bulky and, while they have awesome range, they do have annoying limitations (like not being able to go in water..) I tend to have teams that are heavy in thieves/assassins, mages, halberdiers, myrmidons, and archers. Larger units, for me, are really only used as human shields for my fast characters. I gamble that their speed will be high enough that they will dodge when they are attacked since they are very weak. Maybe not the best strategy, but it's what I like. ^-^ The Laguz make me happy because they are tank-like, but still quick and maneuverable!
Honestly I have never used Haar because he comes in so late. By the end of chapter 17 I don't usually add anyone except herons, hawks, and Elincia.I have already spent so much time and energy building my main team... :<
Yeah that worries me a bit. It will be hard to decide who to use! :< That is another reason I do themed playthroughs btw. It forces me to use units I have NEVER used before! ^-^
Gosh right? Hacking a script into an emulator is too much work with too much potential for things to go wrong. :< I wish they would release all of them like they did with Final Fantasy. I will keep my fingers crossed because public interest is up, but I agree it is unlikely... ;^;
I guess that makes sense, but I am not a Smash fan so... Although when I play Smash I exclusively use Zelda and Fire Emblem characters so I have used Roy a lot. Even when I did though, I liked Marth better! ^-^ He had a better design and, imo, played better.
Well like I said I shall keep my fingers crossed and hope it gets the Final Fantasy treatment! ^-^ It sounds very interesting and I like the look based on what I saw at Serenes Forest!
I'd be happy to have you visit! I'll say it's not that remarkable compared to most towns since I don't know what patterns would look good to use for paths or anything, but I figure if anyone can appreciate it, it's someone who is familiar with the Tellius games.
Likewise, I'd be interested in visiting your town sometime.
Well I'm afraid you will have to wait a while for my town. I am in the process of selling off my stuff so I can restart with the special Zelda villagers! ^-^ <3 I will def invite you when it is ready though!
Exactly! It isn't cheating because we aren't restarting individual chapters! ;P I really care about the characters, so I want them to live! My main problem with Fates is honestly that I only want to play Revelation so I don't have to kill anyone... ;^; I don't want them to die! Have you played it yet? Do they demonize the other side so you don't feel bad about killing them?
Hmm... none that I can think of? Maybe it is just that I like my teams to be small/fast/maneuverable? Horses are bulky and, while they have awesome range, they do have annoying limitations (like not being able to go in water..) I tend to have teams that are heavy in thieves/assassins, mages, halberdiers, myrmidons, and archers. Larger units, for me, are really only used as human shields for my fast characters. I gamble that their speed will be high enough that they will dodge when they are attacked since they are very weak. Maybe not the best strategy, but it's what I like. ^-^ The Laguz make me happy because they are tank-like, but still quick and maneuverable!
Honestly I have never used Haar because he comes in so late. By the end of chapter 17 I don't usually add anyone except herons, hawks, and Elincia.I have already spent so much time and energy building my main team... :<
Yeah that worries me a bit. It will be hard to decide who to use! :< That is another reason I do themed playthroughs btw. It forces me to use units I have NEVER used before! ^-^
Gosh right? Hacking a script into an emulator is too much work with too much potential for things to go wrong. :< I wish they would release all of them like they did with Final Fantasy. I will keep my fingers crossed because public interest is up, but I agree it is unlikely... ;^;
I guess that makes sense, but I am not a Smash fan so... Although when I play Smash I exclusively use Zelda and Fire Emblem characters so I have used Roy a lot. Even when I did though, I liked Marth better! ^-^ He had a better design and, imo, played better.
Well like I said I shall keep my fingers crossed and hope it gets the Final Fantasy treatment! ^-^ It sounds very interesting and I like the look based on what I saw at Serenes Forest!
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Halloqueen
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Mmhmm. While these forums have a sizeable group of Fire Emblem fans, a majority of them came in with Awakening and haven't played the earlier stuff. Some people have played the Game Boy Advance games though. It's understandable why a lot of folks haven't played PoR, considering the price it goes for these days and since it's a GameCube game, but it kinda sucks when something you're passionate about is underappreciated. Aside from you, I've only ever seen amye.miller, Ashvenn, and like maybe two others on this site who have played it.
But yes, it's good that despite our small numbers, we can still have substantive discussions.
Sounds good.
Oops, actually I do the individual chapters thing.
Restarting entirely every time sounds like a bit too much for me. Especially with Chapter 17. But it's admirable that you put that much effort into keeping them alive. Honestly? Couldn't tell ya. Awakening really left a sour taste in my mouth after playing it for a few months and then analyzing the game overall. I didn't connect with a majority of the characters other than Virion, the story was underwhelming, and as discussed earlier, I wasn't a fan of the final boss. I also disliked the whole time travel children situation because, in general, I just really hate time travel in anything.
As such, I was hesitant to give Fates a shot and immediately wrote off Birthright since it was Awakening 2.0. I planned to get Conquest since I heard it was closer to the older games, but then I heard rumblings of how lackluster the story is. Hearing all this, seeing armor designs like Camilla and Charlotte's, and seeing the series devolve into incest shipping, I kinda just decided not to buy any of the versions of the game. I honestly don't know whether I'll ever buy another new installment in the series, and I feel no drive to currently since the older games suffice.
Hopefully all that doesn't come off elitist or belittling, though it probably does. It's just that the series took a turn away from what I liked and was used to, so it's not exactly my cup of tea anymore.
Ah, ok. Gotcha.
Well, the good thing is that if you do use Haar in RD, he's so good that he doesn't even really need the stat boosts from transferring your PoR save data.
It might do you well to check out tier lists on places like Serenes Forest to see which characters are good in the game and go from there. Some characters simply have too few appearances throughout the game to level up for them to be viable.
Oh, it's not the application of the script I'm uncomfortable with. Just the whole legality situation.
Yeah, while I main Ike, Marth is my second favorite. Though instead of Zelda, the other ones I mostly use are Mario, Peach, and Samus.
Hmm, here's a question. Do you tend to use Rhys or Mist for your primary healing, or do you double up? I used to favor Rhys, but Mist getting a horse on promotion and having that important role in the Black Knight battle has me leveling her up in playthroughs nowadays.
Yeah I can understand why there are so few people who have played it, but it is still sad for sure! ;^; If only they would make it available for download!
Oops, actually I do the individual chapters thing.
Yeah I did individual chapters for a long time too! Then my bro-in-law kept saying I was cheating so I switched to my current hardcore mode. No judgement from me though for sure! ^-^ I just wanted to challenge myself since I had played through the game so many times already!
I agree with you on quite a bit of this actually... I haven't really gotten to play Awakening yet, but there are many things I dislike about it design and story wise. As far as Camilla and Charlotte's 'armor'...? UGH... WTF is that!? What are you protecting!? I know the armor for the girls has often involved shortish skirts, but at least it was skirts, not panties, and they had REAL chest-plates and not molded boob-armor! :< The incest shipping in Fates really REALLY freaks me out... Although it isn't ACTUALLY incest (can't say more for spoilers), but it is still creepy... Honestly I have spent hours on Serenes Forest reading almost all of the support convos to find the most logical/least disgusting and ridiculous pairings. I will prob get the kids because I like to have all the units, but in general time travel is lazy and the whole thing has become oddly dating sim-like. In older games SOME characters could be paired, but it was more logical and you couldn't force people that didn't make sense together! A large reason I will play the games is because tactical RPGs are my favorite game genre and there are not enough of them, so I play every one that is even remotely appealing! Hopefully they can pull it back and bring back some of the old charm but...I am concerned... We will always have the classics though! ^-^
Ah! Good to know he will be useful without carrying him over! Oh btw... Can you carry over multiple save files? Like if I have 3 different finished files with different parties can I bring them all?
As noted above... I have already spent a LOT of time on that site! XD I will check out in more detail closer to when I start RD though. I hope Vika is good use because her design rocks! ^-^
Huh... Maybe I should be worried about that, but instead I'm just lazy and tech stupid! XD
I have nothing against your characters, but when given the choice I can't resist Zelda! Although I also feel like that series is going in a bad/scary direction and they may lose me if they don't pull it back... :<
Since my party is mostly light/fast/low-defense characters, I use both! I will often run into scary moments where I make a dumb mistake or the RNG gods hate me and I def NEED as many healers as I can get! So I always use Rhys and Mist, and as soon as I get Reyson he is permanent too so I can have 3 heals per turn if needed. Mist once she is promoted is probably the most valuable support character in the game.
Halloqueen
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Here's hoping they add the Radiant games to the Virtual Console someday, preferably on the Switch since more people are probably going to get that than own a Wii U. I mean, we got the Metroid Prime trilogy on the Wii U VC, so they're obviously capable of it.
Finding new ways to keep the game interesting is always good.
Yeah, that we went from respectable armor designs like in the case of Titania to blatant fanservice like Charlotte is kind of insulting to not only the characters, but I feel women in general, longtime fan intelligence, and damages the series' integrity.
Exactly. The games lose something when everyone can date everyone and make babies with everyone. It actively hurts the characterizations because you can go in less interesting directions. Plus, with all of the recent interest in homosexual pairings, I feel they would be able to be handled with more tact when characters are actually written as being gay, lesbian, bi, whatever. I want quality with the pairings rather than quantity.
Understandable. In recent years I've found myself going back to stuff like Shining Force for my non-Fire Emblem tactics fix. I've heard good things about Ogre Battle/Tactics Ogre and there are some of those games available on the Virtual Console. Have you played any of them?
Nah, you can only carry over one save file at a time for a particular run.
I really like Vika's design as well. As for whether she's worth using? General consensus is that her availability throughout the game is too limited for her to be a valuable team player in the endgame, compounded with the laguz bar issue. You might be able to offset that a bit with stat boosting items, but her level might still be low.
Ah, k. That has me curious. I know you're a fan of Soren, but what if any other magic users do you use? Ilyana, Tormod, Calil, Bastian? I tend to use Soren and Ilyana occasionally finds her way onto my teams, but I haven't really used the other three.
Ugh I hope so! While they are at is I would also like Harvest Moon 64! ^-^ (Whoops! Forgot to mention in my PM that I am a HUGE Harvest Moon/Story of Seasons/Rune Factory fan! I have literally all of those games. I love virtual farming and wooing villagers! Since you are a blank slate it works, and you build an actual family. Some games have rival marriages where candidates marry each other, but not all and the pairings usually worked well. I just don't want excessive wooing in my FE games because they are tactical war games not dating sims!)
YES! As a woman I find it insulting! What kind of knight goes into battle dressed like that!? Titania had perfectly respectable armor, and she was still gorgeous! Jill and Astrid too! All of the armor used to make sense to the class. I could forgive the short-ish skirts because the classes with them needed them for high mobility (myrmidon, halberdier, and mages) or to keep weight down (Pegasus knights) and they weren't meant to take direct blows from enemies. They were meant to be protected or dodge, so it was logical. There is nothing logical about a front lines warrior being half-naked! Like seriously!? They could chop off your leg, arm, head, or stab you in the heart with zero resistance because it is all exposed! It makes me grumpy and makes me feel like they see me (a woman) as an object AND someone who is clearly not interested in their games! If they add boob jiggle I am gone forever!
Yes! Like some of the supports are painful to read because these people CLEARLY don't belong together! Then there is the fact that you can't have Chrom marry Cordelia even though she is already in love with him before the game starts! Then in every support she has the other man will reference that 'they know they aren't Chrom, but they hope she will settle for them and they will make her happy.' That whole thing is incredibly depressing to me! Like there are characters I would like to have together in PoR (Ike/Elincia, Ilyana/Zihark, Lethe/Ranulf, etc.), but you can't and that's ok because life isn't always perfect! I agree with quality over quantity and I wish they would treat bi, trans, gay, and lesbian relationships better. The support where they trick the girl out of being a lesbian is distressing to say the least! ;^; Again I have to go back to Ike and Soren. While it isn't explicitly stated that either is gay, their relationship is written with wonderful subtlety and just enough subtext that you have the freedom to decide what you think their relationship is. Yet neither is defined by their sexuality (whether gay, bi, or straight) and they are well-written and well-developed characters in their own right! We need more of that and less ' Oh you're a lesbian? Well here drink this, be straight, and marry me instead!', or 'Hey check out the stereotypical/token hot lesbian and flamboyant gay man who had no personality except for their sexual preference!' >:C
I will need to check out Shining Force I guess. I have never heard of it. I HIGHLY recommend Final Fantasy Tactics: War of the Lions (the remake of FFT for PSP). It is amazing! The story revolves around politics and religion and it is so well written! It was my 1st tactical RPG and it holds a special place in my heart! I have Tactics Ogre: Let Us Cling Together and it is quite good. I would also recommend Jeanne d'Arc as well. As far a the Nintendo systems go, maybe check out the demo for Stella Glow in the eShop as it was good enough that I bought the game after. I have also gotten Mercenaries Saga 2 and it is good but kinda short. It's only $4.99 though so prob worth checking out!
I thought so, but boooo! ;^; I will have to figure how to level up late game people I guess. I usually reserve all of my bonus exp for Elincia so she is useful when you finally get her, but maybe I should reassess... Do you use Elincia or do you just try to guard her and keep her low-level? I liked her so once I realized she was a usable unit in the late game my strategy became to save the bonus exp to get her to a usable level when she comes in.
I was afraid of that... Why must they give us a raven and not let us use her properly! :< Are the wolves worth using then? I was also excited for them. I will say though... I am pretty good at manipulating a battle to grind out experience. I will basically keep a unit alive and hit it over and over with my units that need exp and heal it before it dies with the clerics. That way everyone gets to level up decently! ;P Only limitation with that is money and time. It feels kinda cheap that you can do bonus battles to level everyone in the newer games. Like, clearly your objective is not ACTUALLY that important since you can afford to take time out and do unnecessary battles. It hurts the story and urgency of it all IMO.
I usually just use Soren and Ilyana. Oh Soren... My sweet, sweet Soren... When I put myself into the game for fanfic purposes he is my boyfriend every time! ^///^ <3 Soren is a freaking one man army so he ends up being front line despite his low defense and almost never gets hit. Crits and multiple hits all day! <3 Ilyana is super solid and she comes in early enough to be really useful. I have used Tormod once or twice, and he is ok but I usually don't have room for him. I have never used Calil or Bastian because they come too late for me.
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Halloqueen
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One of my friends has talked about how nice Harvest Moon is. I've never played it before but I'm definitely going to have to see about playing it in the future. Is 64 the best compared to stuff released before or since in the series?
As for the dating sim and excessive wooing, yeah, it's annoying. It's too in your face now and leaves nothing to the imagination. We even know how their children turn out because they come back from the future or were shoved into some stupid other dimension to justify their presence. If characters are going to get together, I like for them to keep what happens vague so you can imagine for yourself.
Not only that, but I heard that no one in Fates wears shoes as sort of a joke about how Awakening characters didn't have feet on their models. Is that true? If so that's even more stupid, because you're going to twist your ankle or step on rocks out on a battlefield.
Agreed.
Shining Force was kind of Sega's answer to Fire Emblem, though I have no idea if that was actually their intent. Shining Force: The Legacy of Great Intention is the first game, and there's an entire series of games after that. You can find it and Shining Force II on the Wii Virtual Console if that thing is still open, dunno about Wii U since I haven't checked.
I've honestly never played a Final Fantasy game, partly because all of the popularity kind of pushed me away and the newer stuff seems awful. A friend has really been making Final Fantasy 6 sound appealing to me though, so I might hop in on that. Does Final Fantasy Tactics utilize characters from the main series or is it all separate? Will I be confused since I'm not familiar with the franchise?
I'll look into Jeanne d'Arc, Stella Glow, and Mercenaries Saga 2, and finally get around to trying Tactics Ogre upon your recommendation. Thanks.
By the way, while we're tossing around tactics games, I heard of something that might interest you. Shouzou Kaga, the original creator of Fire Emblem, made a free game recently. You might already be aware of this since you frequent Serenes Forest, but I figured it was worth a mention. I don't know if anyone has gotten around to translating it to English yet though.
Honestly, I don't generally use Elincia in Path of Radiance. My team is usually so full of other good units that I just don't really bother to add her. I also tend to have Marcia, so other than being thematically appropriate, I just never found a reason to justify her addition in my past runs.
She is amazing though in Radiant Dawn, because her sword Amiti is basically an unbreakable Brave Sword and her stats are great. Just take the Mercy skill off of her, because with it she'll leave opponents alive at 1 HP and that makes it hard for her to properly level up.
For as much as I like Radiant Dawn for being a continuation of the Tellius story, the nature of its structure is unfortunate. A lot of interesting units just don't get their chance.
The wolf laguz are worth using, though moreso Nailah than Volug. You don't want to use Nailah early game though, because she is so crazy strong that she'll obliterate anything and cost your lower-leveled Dawn Brigade units precious experience.
Also yeah, I do the same thing to level units as you mentioned. If a chapter doesn't offer worthwhile Bonus Experience for quick completion or if I just want to catch someone up without wasting BEXP, it's useful.
Yeah, it's kind of a shame Calil and Bastian come in so late. Bastian in particular has a fun character but I've never not leveled a different mage instead and that would be the only way he'd ever see the light of day.
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