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Mafia [GAME THREAD] Karen Mafia (Endgame - Mafia Wins)

tensu, do you realise how it sounds when you're telling people they can't have a read on u bc ur inactive but at the same time saying that you should be considered towny for coasting so much....
I’m not saying that I’m a townie bc I’ve been coasting. I meant that since I’ve had so little activity and posts there isn’t enough evidence to reasonably suspect me. Should’ve made this clearer. I’m trying to contribute and get back in the game but I’m being SL’d for some arbitrary reason so it’s difficult to make any headway. But that’s my fault for getting myself in this position. If I’m lynched scum will win. I desperately want to avoid that.
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that ISO is out of date bc radical6 and evan both flipped town since then obviously
that ISO is out of date bc radical6 and evan both flipped town since then obviously

but dude you're coasting so much and then hop back into the thread 'because it's the weekend!' as if mafia is a part time job or something LOL

bruh I’m sorry but my inactivity isn’t AI. I have a real life with back to back classes, sports, and work. I’m doing my best to juggle all that with this game. Signing up, I envisioned it beginning sooner but by the time it started, life got crazy busy. It happens. I don’t know how many times I’ve had to defend myself from SR’s just bc of my inactivity. It’s a super weak argument to base a SR on.
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i am pretty much certain that there IS no scumteam that does not have your name on the roster

well you’re in for a shock lol

I don’t understand how you’re so certain I’m scum. Do you just feel so confident that everyone else is town that it’s POE?
 
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not even kidding i just typed out every possible scumteam with my assumptions based off interactions. i'm ignoring my reads they are garbage
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i'm sorry endless if you're town
 
i won't vote yet but:

my assumptions are 3 things:
  • epona / aerious not aligned
  • tensu / epona not aligned
  • guava / endless not aligned
  • if anyone would like to challenge these ones PLEASE provide quotes/reasons because i have tried to consider them all and i'm still at this point.
endless / epona / ace
endless / tensu / aerious
endless / ace / tensu
endless / aerious / ace
guava / aerious / ace
guava / aerious / tensu
guava / epona / ace
guava / ace / tensu
tensu / ace / aerious

the fact that aerious seems to be universally townread is crazy because it removes 5 of these combinations and CEMENTS ace as mafia. like ace would be guaranteed mafia if aerious is indeed town, assuming i'm not wrong about an interaction somewhere. obviously this is all from my point of view

FMPOV i get why endless is challenging the tensu / epona situation, because if he is town the pairings have VERY little sense at all especially factoring in his reads.

i also struggle to see guava/aerious teamed AT ALL. lmao. i wanted to add that assumption in but got tired and was already halfway through typing them all out. ace/aerious i'm struggling to see as well

it's likely that if aerious is mafia we just lose, yes they are green in the above and its because i was trying to see what pairings exist removing aerious. like i said these are purely interaction based, when it comes to reads i'm clearly not weighing things accurately this game at all so i'm just going to depend on interactions and hope we don't lose this phase. if we can get a mafia lynch it would help me to reread and refresh

the more i consider endless' TR on both aerious/me the more i'm uncomfortable, endless says aerious can't feign panic but i don't think he has examined her in the same way me/epona has? he has given new reasons to townread me but it's undeniable that there has always been a missing piece whenever he tries to put scumreads together (he can't narrow on a team, because he thinks an analytical player must be mafia) the thing is -- endless' conviction is lackluster, and has been lackluster all game, he at first felt resigned regarding never being able to push through a lynch and while YES i am comparing 2017 endless to 2020 endless, something that did come through to me with rereading his old games was that his tone was extremely filled with a strong sense of willpower and his emotion/frustration/etc. comes through when he's not being listened to.

if he wants to link me more recent games from him (assuming he's playing on a different site) that would be worth my time

honestly if i was endless i'd be ANGRY if i couldn't lynch my #1 scumread since d2. especially if he's hitting MLs in his secondary scumreads, i would have expected less resignation and more of a sign of "i need to follow my strongest read because clearly not doing that isn't working".

also interesting that epona has low compatibility overall, this could go up with removing the epona/tensu not aligned assumption ofc but i'm standing by it from their recent interaction. i would like to hear thoughts from endless on the recent tensu posts

i've never really had a read on ace, but statistically, if my assumptions are right they are the most likely to be mafia.

i mean, if ace is town fmpov the teams are:

guava / aerious / tensu
or
endless / tensu / aerious

and like i said guava and aerious have serious anti-synergy imo, which puts me back at endless/someone/someone. i'm just at a loss with both my reads and POE when i try to see endless as town here
 
when aerious suddenly decided to start sussing epona and then endless was like OH YEA I WOULD DO THIS SINCE I CANT GET ANYONE TO ELIM GUAVA
So glad you started posting again, I was losing my mind and I forgot how bad all your reads were.
I scumread epona wildly before that in my reads post for that day - it wasn't a last minute flip on epona, it was something I pretty clearly was comfortable with the whole time.
the more i consider endless' TR on both aerious/me the more i'm uncomfortable, endless says aerious can't feign panic but i don't think he has examined her in the same way me/epona has? he has given new reasons to townread me but it's undeniable that there has always been a missing piece whenever he tries to put scumreads together (he can't narrow on a team, because he thinks an analytical player must be mafia) the thing is -- endless' conviction is lackluster, and has been lackluster all game, he at first felt resigned regarding never being able to push through a lynch and while YES i am comparing 2017 endless to 2020 endless, something that did come through to me with rereading his old games was that his tone was extremely filled with a strong sense of willpower and his emotion/frustration/etc. comes through when he's not being listened to.
Honestly this is an artifact of the "no swearing" rule. I've probably retyped around 50+ swear words over the course of the game, around half of which would've been during this day phase. What you probably noticed when you went over my past games was that I start to swear a lot when things go south - without it it's not as obvious I'm seething behind my monitor.

It's also interesting that your take-away from rereading my old games was "I get angry as town in this sort of situation" - I actually went and reread some of my old games on this site in an attempt to find that situation you mentioned - I didn't find the situation, but I did find a game (don't remember what it was called) where I died night 3 as mafia roleblocker, and I was livid by the end of that game. By all rights I was mafia and things were going fantastically for me, granted I did end up losing to vig shot + lynch on my team-mate, but I still don't see your point of "endless would be more mad as town"?
Like, as demonstrated above, I would either be a) angry or b) fake being genuinely angry and honestly it's more indicative that I'm town that while typing back swears I'm not faking anything else.

if he wants to link me more recent games from him (assuming he's playing on a different site) that would be worth my time
Last game I played was a game on this site, I stopped all my sites pretty much at the same time and coincidentally this was the last one left. So no more recent games, sorry.

also interesting that epona has low compatibility overall, this could go up with removing the epona/tensu not aligned assumption ofc but i'm standing by it from their recent interaction. i would like to hear thoughts from endless on the recent tensu posts
I mean they're awful. He states he has "real reasons" for voting epona, and that is defended because she... voted pretty much the same people as everyone else?
In the post prior to that, he also responded to epona saying she was wrong - which is something I'd assume he'd do more to someone he didn't think is mafia?

If I'm being reasonable, Tensu is probably an extremely reasonable lynch.
But Aerious is now voting guav@ which I've wanted pretty much the whole game so if I miss this there might not be another chance.

And as bad as Tensu's content is - guav@'s is worse.
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Oh since I didn't actually confirm this, I'm going to confirm this: I'm voting guav@ and I encourage all of you to do the same.

glow, if guav@ flips mafia, you locktown me yeah?
 
i’m not maf, i just tried and lost interest. it’s funny how many people are trying to instill doubt in me being town bc i’m universally townread i 🤩

if i give it the benefit of the doubt and say endless/glow are town, that forces ace/guava/epona/tensu into the maf

but i genuinely don’t think it’s ace/glow at the very least

if it winds up guava/epona/tensu, pomegranate, i am so sorry you had to deal with that
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fwiw i don’t think glow is doing that, but guava. don’t rly think maf would panic like that bc this is an easy game

but my 4 who i think could be maf are
endless/epona/guava/tensu
 
we still have like 5 and a half hours

i do think it's more likely to be tensu than guava
 
imagine how not fun it is for ppl who have actually been posting and solving every day phase
lol what do u want me to say like sorry??????

it’s kinda hard to even get back into (let alone just IN TO) a game where despite me actually trying i was just getting called a bad player constantly.

like yea maybe i am not good at this but this is supposed to be fun!!! i get that i’m not on all of ur galaxy level strategies and logic but damn calling me a bad player constantly just further demotivates me to play tbh. esp when i was legit trying at one pt.
 
lol what do u want me to say like sorry??????

it’s kinda hard to even get back into (let alone just IN TO) a game where despite me actually trying i was just getting called a bad player constantly.

like yea maybe i am not good at this but this is supposed to be fun!!! i get that i’m not on all of ur galaxy level strategies and logic but damn calling me a bad player constantly just further demotivates me to play tbh. esp when i was legit trying at one pt.

i wasn't calling you a bad player at all <3 that post was more in response to tensu saying it's not fun anymore i just didn't want to come across as rlly rude by addressing it to them but in retrospect it's just rude anyway so apologies i am just frustrated bc the atmosphere is a bit weird

fwiw i don't think you're a bad player and i would never say that, we have different playstyles which can be grating and i find it hard to read you but i always enjoy playing with you. i would never call someone a bad player that'z not how i roll
 
lol what do u want me to say like sorry??????

it’s kinda hard to even get back into (let alone just IN TO) a game where despite me actually trying i was just getting called a bad player constantly.

like yea maybe i am not good at this but this is supposed to be fun!!! i get that i’m not on all of ur galaxy level strategies and logic but damn calling me a bad player constantly just further demotivates me to play tbh. esp when i was legit trying at one pt.
but no one is calling u bad..... u called urself bad earlier. i don't think u are, i just don't think chaos is beneficial. like i'm the most widely townread person, i'm not scum this game, and ur fosing me instead of trying to deduce who it is. u and ace become LHF for maf, which makes this game substantially harder from a town pov. u gotta find out who's town and work as a unit

@Tensu it's my anniversary today and i'm still on trying to help even tho i'm demotivated. u've been mia talking abt how this is unfun and i -_-
 
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