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Propaganda Man

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I say dump the sage rank. I am not meaning to call out any sages or point any fingers. I'm talking as a whole.

Sages here are attacking other members and members are attacking the sages. They are really just members with more privileges and boards to post on. They are supposedly "an upstanding member of the community." But all I see is complaining, bashing, and just unneeded, and unhelpful randomness.

Let me see a sage who contributes with good posts, good ideas, and just a good attitude that goes with them from post to post. Not a sage that hides behind the word "opinion". Not a sage that attacks the credibility of the poster instead of the post. Not a sage who is so ignorant that they disregard everything but their opinion.

Sure, sages are helping a bit with the website but from what I've heard, they are quiting or complaining half the time. Members sometimes have to step in and help them just to help knowing they won't get anything in return but their name on the site.

If it were up to me, I would have Katz as the only sage. Sure, she (Thanks Fang ;)) is not active but she is member I respect the most at TBT(Not talking about the staff)

Sages should either start acting like one or be demoted, simple as that. It is known that there will not be any more sage at TBT until further notice. That shouldn't mean that sages who have shown themselves unworthy time and time again should not be demoted to a normal member without their unique privileges and access to hidden boards.

Also, if a specific sage wants to talk to me about this PM me. I'm not going to call anyone out in this thread. And if you PM me keep what happens in that PM in the PM.
 
Katz is of the female gender and is an admin at NF fourms. >.>;

Nice going there sherlock. X D

Anyway, everything else is good, and I stand behind.

I am friends with sages, and I think of them as equals, not a supermember.
 
In all honesty, and not just because I was demoted, I believe you couldn't be more right, especially about the part about "hiding behind your opinions", I know I have done that my share of times, and I know it was stupid.

I hope your post gets through to more people, but I have an idea of the people who will disagree >_>.
 
Propaganda Man said:
Wow, so no argument from anyone?
Horrible idea! I hate you for demoting sages!!!

Actually, I don't see the point in a sage rank.


:p
 
Get rid of sages and make it something diffrent.

I say replace it with something like TBT Veteran, where you have to be picked by the staff, be at TBT for so long and be an overall setting a good example. Unlike sages though it'd be a long time, like 2 years or so.

Being a sage isn't that great. The only thing special there is my cat pen, my evil barrel (smashed by bul when I got there) and other crap. It's not that great other than the color.
 
OddCrazyMe said:
Get rid of sages and make it something diffrent.

I say replace it with something like TBT Veteran, where you have to be picked by the staff, be at TBT for so long and be an overall setting a good example. Unlike sages though it'd be a long time, like 2 years or so.

Being a sage isn't that great. The only thing special there is my cat pen, my evil barrel (smashed by bul when I got there) and other crap. It's not that great other than the color.
TBT Veteran isn't a bad idea... Though, being here for two years isn't really a good enough reason to get a rank.
 
UltraByte said:
OddCrazyMe said:
Get rid of sages and make it something diffrent.

I say replace it with something like TBT Veteran, where you have to be picked by the staff, be at TBT for so long and be an overall setting a good example. Unlike sages though it'd be a long time, like 2 years or so.

Being a sage isn't that great. The only thing special there is my cat pen, my evil barrel (smashed by bul when I got there) and other crap. It's not that great other than the color.
TBT Veteran isn't a bad idea... Though, being here for two years isn't really a good enough reason to get a rank.
He obviously means something else along with being here for a substantial amount of time.
 
I am mostly at NF and TNZ now, but every now and then I pop into this place and see what's going on. If what bambam! said is really happening, then I back him up; dump the Sage rank. It's not even that Animal Crossing'ish anyway. I am nowhere near active at this place to actually see if it's true, however, so don't start flaming me.
 
I agree, and I've been for getting rid of it for months, but my vote doesn't count for much.


;)

Speaking of NF, I recently saw a new Hall of Fame thing they're doing, and it's pretty cool.


:p
 
Propaganda Man said:
JJH0369 said:
Propaganda Man said:
Wow, so no argument from anyone?
Horrible idea! I hate you for demoting sages!!!
Thanks


;) I feel a little better now. I would like to get some staff opinions in this though.
Well, now you're just being difficult.


;)

But yes, Odd's idea is good.
 
Propaganda Man said:
I say dump the sage rank. I am not meaning to call out any sages or point any fingers. I'm talking as a whole.

Sages here are attacking other members and members are attacking the sages. They are really just members with more privileges and boards to post on. They are supposedly "an upstanding member of the community." But all I see is complaining, bashing, and just unneeded, and unhelpful randomness.

Let me see a sage who contributes with good posts, good ideas, and just a good attitude that goes with them from post to post. Not a sage that hides behind the word "opinion". Not a sage that attacks the credibility of the poster instead of the post. Not a sage who is so ignorant that they disregard everything but their opinion.

Sure, sages are helping a bit with the website but from what I've heard, they are quiting or complaining half the time. Members sometimes have to step in and help them just to help knowing they won't get anything in return but their name on the site.

If it were up to me, I would have Katz as the only sage. Sure, she (Thanks Fang ;)) is not active but she is member I respect the most at TBT(Not talking about the staff)

Sages should either start acting like one or be demoted, simple as that. It is known that there will not be any more sage at TBT until further notice. That shouldn't mean that sages who have shown themselves unworthy time and time again should not be demoted to a normal member without their unique privileges and access to hidden boards.

Also, if a specific sage wants to talk to me about this PM me. I'm not going to call anyone out in this thread. And if you PM me keep what happens in that PM in the PM.
:goodposting:
 
Yeah I'm surprised some Sages haven't been desaged (lol coughmecough). Well, I don't really care what happens to the Sage Program because really TBT isn't what it was when I first joined and the months or maybe a year after that. Maybe it's me, yeah mostly me, but I think it's TBT too.
 
UltraByte said:
Super_Naruto said:
TBT isn't what it was when I first joined and the months or maybe a year after that.
Probably because some of our awesomest members left.
Oh the ones who liked flaming a lot? Yeah that sure helped the good times. It's not the "most awesomess" members, those sucked and keep bowing to them if you think you're inferior. I'm talking about the overall activeness all the good/cool members being active and stuff but yeah, thats over.
 
Super_Naruto said:
UltraByte said:
Super_Naruto said:
TBT isn't what it was when I first joined and the months or maybe a year after that.
Probably because some of our awesomest members left.
Oh the ones who liked flaming a lot? Yeah that sure helped the good times. It's not the "most awesomess" members, those sucked and keep bowing to them if you think you're inferior. I'm talking about the overall activeness all the good/cool members being active and stuff but yeah, thats over.
Wow. You sure do look upon Classic TBT harshly.
 
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