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SHUT UP :'( I tried applying the EM strategy for this game and it kinda just fell flat in my face I'm so embarrassed cos idk what I've done either honestly.
we had a plan though? i was the only blue who outed ??!!!!!! how can u go ON UR OWN PLAN that’s entirely contingent on us having a doctor. if doc is dead, you just killed and forced cop out
 
https://epicmafia.com/setup/132122 here u can read it, I tried let me hide in shame

i understand the strategy, but why pick a random player to get a town result on instead of saying you got town on aerious, who is mechanically cleared?

i guess you were relying on the lawyer caveat but
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fwiw i don't think the doctor is dead
 
If doctor is dead maf knows that, IF cop survives to D2 there's no doubt mafia would CC them anyway, it's only optimal you lynch between cop claims today.
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So in turn I thought I could take away mafia's option to CC cop today by baiting the real one and retracting, but it doesn't look entirely good when Fefe and I have polar results.

The plan was much better in my head
 
if we have confirmed maf reading on volt, i’m willing to take the risk for miller/mafia. it’s going to help us in the long run regardless unless our cop is now dead
 
ladies and gents may i also introduce the possibility that our cop died n0

> cop dies n0
> heyden fakeclaims cop to tease out the real cop in a fancy pre-researched strategy
> scum!feferling knows he's bluffing bc scumteam knows cop is dead, CCs and directly contradicts the result

it's a brave play but it works, and it's not that risky bc heyden basically set it up
it's a very convenient coincidence that they both 'investigated' the same person (without anybody having posted at all at that stage) and got opposite 'results'
 
ladies and gents may i also introduce the possibility that our cop died n0

> cop dies n0
> heyden fakeclaims cop to tease out the real cop in a fancy pre-researched strategy
> scum!feferling knows he's bluffing bc scumteam knows cop is dead, CCs and directly contradicts the result

it's a brave play but it works, and it's not that risky bc heyden basically set it up
it's a very convenient coincidence that they both 'investigated' the same person (without anybody having posted at all at that stage) and got opposite 'results'
this is also true, but we’d eliminate volt today (soz volt) to test this theory
 
ladies and gents may i also introduce the possibility that our cop died n0

> cop dies n0
> heyden fakeclaims cop to tease out the real cop in a fancy pre-researched strategy
> scum!feferling knows he's bluffing bc scumteam knows cop is dead, CCs and directly contradicts the result

it's a brave play but it works, and it's not that risky bc heyden basically set it up
it's a very convenient coincidence that they both 'investigated' the same person (without anybody having posted at all at that stage) and got opposite 'results'
I was praying to flip maf so I could do something like this
 
this is also true, but we’d eliminate volt today (soz volt) to test this theory

yeah i hate it but it's the best thing to do

> volt flips miller, we've eliminated the miller
> volt flips mafia, woohoo and we can mech clear feferily (survival pending lol)
> volt flips vanilla, we scumlock feferily
 
Sounds good. I know I’m cop so I’m not worried about being eliminated. I’m more worried about surviving the night. I wasn’t going to out myself on d1 and get another read but then you voted Volt as towny. I don’t think an experienced player would just clear their fellow scum though? So I’m unsure about you Heyden.
 
Sounds good. I know I’m cop so I’m not worried about being eliminated. I’m more worried about surviving the night. I wasn’t going to out myself on d1 and get another read but then you voted Volt as towny. I don’t think an experienced player would just clear their fellow scum though? So I’m unsure about you Heyden.
no point reading him tomorrow night. if he’s maf and volt isn’t lawyer, it’ll be pointed directly at him
 
i'm not going near heyden today but i'm pretty sure this TWTBAW territory lol i'm putting it down as town who messed up for now
 
-Oracle outted, Cop not claiming today leads to a random lynch, 3/8 chance of lynching mafia
-In the scenario town mislynches, its a 4vs3 the next day and mafia no doubt will CC the cop, leading to a 50/50 chance of win

-Cop claiming today removes a suspect (themselves) and puts POTENTIAL doctor on them, lynch pool about 3/7 (not much better)
-Cop dies, oh well, you still have an outted report from D1

The only thing cop does by not claiming on D1 is a *potential* D2 report given they live, which could be falsely skewed anyway. Cop outting D1 minimises the lynch pool and outs a potential clear. I know I look like an idiot but it's just optimal.

Also Fefe has no reason to lie, so Volt is either mafia or not, there's not correlation to Fefe here IMO, I TL her.
 
fwiw i’m still sus of heyden. this was too convenient when town had a plan, he knew it was a risk with potentially no doctor and did it anyways, and forced our cop out. i don’t believe it’s truly, strictly dumbassery
 
I actually don't think Volt is miller because he picked up on my soft and thought it was a 'meme'. If he was a townie he would've believed it, no?
 
I actually don't think Volt is miller because he picked up on my soft and thought it was a 'meme'. If he was a townie he would've believed it, no?

i understand this but i thought it was memeing too, tbh when i read back to look for it after you said you had softed earlier, i couldn't even remember reading it at the start of d1 at all

that said ig the circumstances are different if it's about you
 
we had a plan though? i was the only blue who outed ??!!!!!! how can u go ON UR OWN PLAN that’s entirely contingent on us having a doctor. if doc is dead, you just killed and forced cop out
IDK if I explained this well before, but if doc is dead, cop would be killed yes, but they would have an outted report from N0. By cop not claiming they run the risk of being NKd, and therefore 0 reports at all. If they do survive, cop would be CC'd by mafia and you pick between the two at a MYLO. IMO that's not optimal when you can figure out the cop stuff today.
 
IDK if I explained this well before, but if doc is dead, cop would be killed yes, but they would have an outted report from N0. By cop not claiming they run the risk of being NKd, and therefore 0 reports at all. If they do survive, cop would be CC'd by mafia and you pick between the two at a MYLO. IMO that's not optimal when you can figure out the cop stuff today.
it’s a 1/5 risk, not to mention the fact that remy was basically afk the entire first portion. if anyone’s going, it’s epona for being diligent town
 
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