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Mafia Janitorial 2.0! Day ends June 22nd 2020, 5 PM PST.

Will be headed to bed around 6 PM EST. Working 4-12 tomorrow
i’m home in an hour and then i’ll go through the entire thread. since this is wifom, i’m reluctant to bite the bullet and jump on a wagon
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i’m going to be honest though, i’m more prone to want to leave the PRs alive just to see what the end looks like
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killing remy doesn’t verify their claims. the one claim that hit was on volt, the next was ace, which could’ve been lawyer’d. there’s no info being gained from the death of remy
 
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i’m home in an hour and then i’ll go through the entire thread. since this is wifom, i’m reluctant to bite the bullet and jump on a wagon
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i’m going to be honest though, i’m more prone to want to leave the PRs alive just to see what the end looks like
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killing remy doesn’t verify their claims. the one claim that hit was on volt, the next was ace, which could’ve been lawyer’d. there’s no info being gained from the death of remy

Yeah, like I just realized, killing a vanilla town detracts less from us than a potential pr, even if we can’t offer much now except for a protect and a potential read.
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Also info on mafia in regards to their choice on Killing if we don’t kill mafia nowb
 
I think that would make the most sense yes. And yeah, I believe so. Kept studying the role list for scenarios. The Shawo(Zenni?) character hinders town though from my guestimations, potentially serving as a way to give mafia a safe claim to use.
cop should claim asap so the doctor can keep him alive, I agree with Epona.
Actually, cop should claim tomorrow, doctor saves him, we get two clues, claiming today, might just rolleblock the janitor if the oracle targets the doctor. but the helps us how?
Cop in fact had last night to investigate someone. I they come clean about how they investigated, we could get 3 clues.
If cop though, any bold mafia could counterclaim though. Sure it would lower their numbers the day after if successfully mislynched cop, but still I have to agree. I don't think there's enough players in this game who would be bold enough to run a play like that, especially since OP mentions no day chat for mafia.
Thanks Shawo
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I'll say it now, I am not the cop or the oracle, so one less counterclaim possible.
And it keeps going lol. deja vu.
I dare you to kill me.
i think we should sus anyone that claims doc. there is literally no reason for it but pr hunt from maf. correct if i am wrong
maybe not sus but just dont cc if someone claims doc. just leave it

/btw thats not the case for cop bc maf could not target him bc 1) doc 2) lawyer. if it was only doc I would understand he might not even be in the game




yeah she was so active that got her killed rip lmao
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two quotes, internet bad
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also i thought heyden was memeing at the start lol epic soft claiming
on page 11, heavily inclined to believe who died was a townie/cop based on responses and that ace really is doc
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ok soz everyone re: my absence so far. it's been... a chaotic father's day to say the least. (men do be trash doe)

re: the susses on me, i've not much to say other than i read your posts and i agree with vanilla townies not claiming. we have a pretty strong chance of a town win so im hype about that.

i'm also being more cautious this thread because there just hasn't been much to go off. epona is striking me as town and i'm inclined to want to believe that aerious isn't lying about her pr... i dont want to immediately jump on the teddy wagon but at this point it's looking like the only option.

i'm kinda shocked heyden's claim for cop was accepted so easily.
OH. also just saw that i have two votes for me, which honestly i would use as evidence to sus mafia throwing wagons around but at least aerious is a town lean in my book. i'm a little more sus on heyden now because it seemingly came out of nowhere?? i don't really what you mean re:


not a lot was being shared and i was just taking in everyone's insight on game setup. a girl was trying to have fun OKAY, this is all still fresh to me. only thing i can say is, i would strongly advice against lynching me, i can't say anything without role claiming and it seemed like we'd come to an agreement to stop rc for the day.
I think it's sus that Heyden is roleclaiming even though one or two people have already mentioned that claiming Cop now is only going to negatively affect town.
The way he said it needs to be distrusted as well. It was a clearly intentional soft roll claim.

And I can say for a fact that Heyden and Volt are mafia. I shouldn’t be doing this because I’m probably going to get culled during the night but for towns sake. I’m the cop. Volt is the person I read during the night. They’re mafia aligned.

Heyden clearly isn’t working for town either since they’ve said that volt is clear.

And I don’t know if sanity plays any roll in this but if it doesn’t... I’m the cop. Volt is mafia.
checking who voted guava coz i’m going to clear them
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ok me and heyden nvm -_-
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i don’t sus remy for this strictly because it’s obvious to believe the other person cc’ing you is maf. heyden wound up town. i’m leaving on epona/tom elimination 1 sec
 
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I’m still sus on Ace but I prefer thinking that trusting Ace yesterday was correct. I think I’m voting Tom. I think not voting a potential pr is the best choice. I think it’s best for town but I do also think you guys will fine if you vote me out and Ace manages to protect somebody. Though I advise against protecting Tom.
 
I’m still sus on Ace but I prefer thinking that trusting Ace yesterday was correct. I think I’m voting Tom. I think not voting a potential pr is the best choice. I think it’s best for town but I do also think you guys will fine if you vote me out and Ace manages to protect somebody. Though I advise against protecting Tom.
don’t vote yet still looking through
 
vote: CADYCAT
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@Aerious Giving Remy the chance to fake report someone as mafia is a possibility.
 
vote: CADYCAT
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@Aerious Giving Remy the chance to fake report someone as mafia is a possibility.
I thought it wasn’t going to be trusted fully regardless. But the information gained by leaving us both alive is more valuable than the report anyway.
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Also poor Cadykat xD
 
not dying from a hangover apparently, they startin one. not me tho, im loosely here to scumhunt but also interview preppin and watching the pokemon players cup cuz lazy
wwndd?

tfw someone clearly left shawo on read 😩

r u gonna be a centrist again
WHAT is this pupupupp business from i keep being unsure of what the implied tone is!!!!!

suspicions intensiFYYYY
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tfw ur playing ur same scummy strategy as last game...... ... ill keep my third eye locked on you
rude
Waiting logistically would be smarter I think, until Cop has enough potential leads/Doc is dead?
who'd you target last night then
wait don't say yet i gotta use brain and figure out if that helps us or no
sorry to plague u with questions shawo, but does oracle only out the role of their target if they die by NK, or does it happen for elimination death too
i'd rather lose a doctor than a cop
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gut feeling says teddy is scum
did u read my post. i said maybe doc should claim so that we could establish if there IS a doctor bc if there isn't then cop shouldn't claim

but i agree with tom about the game stagnating, it was just a suggestion and in hindsight i don't think anyone should claim
I mean if Doc does play along and claim, doesn’t that just paint them as a guaranteed night kill thus if J is telling the truth reducing her role? Seems more harmful than beneficial in any situation.

Also are you able to expand on Ace/Teddy outside of gut or nah? I guess same with @Aerious with sus on me?
yeah im ngl i wanna vote teddy, in the past i've been 100% able to sense his townplaying but i have a bad feeling about him this time around

that said i don't really have a logical basis for it and obviously don't want to do anything until we hear from glow, fefirly, guava and volt
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yeah but nobody's going to be like 'it's me <3 i'm the doc < 3'
Because we have 1 mistake and it's over. I can't be chaotic in this game or I will make town lose.
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Also Father's Day is not my favorite day, so might affect my motivation, but I feel Im doing fine, so idk. Maybe you are seeing something that I don't.
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If we go Guava vs. me I will self preserve, since I don't have any other choice.
ok soz everyone re: my absence so far. it's been... a chaotic father's day to say the least. (men do be trash doe)

re: the susses on me, i've not much to say other than i read your posts and i agree with vanilla townies not claiming. we have a pretty strong chance of a town win so im hype about that.

i'm also being more cautious this thread because there just hasn't been much to go off. epona is striking me as town and i'm inclined to want to believe that aerious isn't lying about her pr... i dont want to immediately jump on the teddy wagon but at this point it's looking like the only option.

i'm kinda shocked heyden's claim for cop was accepted so easily.
The way he said it needs to be distrusted as well. It was a clearly intentional soft roll claim.

And I can say for a fact that Heyden and Volt are mafia. I shouldn’t be doing this because I’m probably going to get culled during the night but for towns sake. I’m the cop. Volt is the person I read during the night. They’re mafia aligned.

Heyden clearly isn’t working for town either since they’ve said that volt is clear.

And I don’t know if sanity plays any roll in this but if it doesn’t... I’m the cop. Volt is mafia.
ladies and gents may i also introduce the possibility that our cop died n0

> cop dies n0
> heyden fakeclaims cop to tease out the real cop in a fancy pre-researched strategy
> scum!feferling knows he's bluffing bc scumteam knows cop is dead, CCs and directly contradicts the result

it's a brave play but it works, and it's not that risky bc heyden basically set it up
it's a very convenient coincidence that they both 'investigated' the same person (without anybody having posted at all at that stage) and got opposite 'results'
Sounds good. I know I’m cop so I’m not worried about being eliminated. I’m more worried about surviving the night. I wasn’t going to out myself on d1 and get another read but then you voted Volt as towny. I don’t think an experienced player would just clear their fellow scum though? So I’m unsure about you Heyden.
Yeah, apologies for the afk. But like i said before I wasn’t going to out myself as cop today if I didn’t need to because I thought it would just get me killed. But yeah. I hope Volt isn’t Miller TwT even if it’s good for town either way.
Quickly looking at Volt's posts he was quick to deflect off the Ace wagon, and Ace was even quicker to put me and him in green/townlean so I think if Volt's maf Ace probably is too.

Ik you think I'm stupid for forcing cop out but I seriously can't see D2 going any other way besides a cop CC-off at MYLO
heehee :lemon:
Yeah that's true Ace is iffy this game, where are the infographics :unsure: The Ace/Guava interaction is weird though bc I think they're both potentially mafia but it's not really compatible if they're willing to vote each other? Like neither of them even tried to deflect onto someone else idk
I'm here! reading.
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Was Guava was gonna do the Remy and claim?


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I will be honest, I'm nervous af in this game, that is why I haven't been crazy me, one mistake and is LyLo so I'm taking it slowly.
Because clearly that is a messy situation, and clearly scum is taking advantage of the claims, so we need to look into everything.
PepeHands what happened omg


i mean dont you think it was quite weird people were dogpilling on him. idk dude he looks town

also remy didnt really answer why they went for me of all people TvT

shouldnt we look from other perspective and try to lynch most scummy looking instead just trusting what could be a fakeclaim. guava is pretty weird the discrepancy from last game is very noticiable
At this moment:
Tom/Epona interchangeable
Guava
Volt

Depending on Volt flip it could be you or Remy.

And before you say well duh captain obvious, it's like literally the most obvious next step.
can u guys respond to your thoughts on these quotes thus far. a lot of it smells to me.
ace could be maf bc volt towncleared him and redirected towards guava, but i think that was trying to throw us off his wagon to save himself
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omg that **** was a wall MY BAD
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i actually think i'm on board with a remy wagon. i don't like how any of this looks, all of the posts have been all over the board and this game is wildly chaotic
 
wait but why are you townreading ace?? im not getting that this game
this is why i'm townreading ace

you dying is literally anti-town at this stage?

my towncore is you, me, and remy (i know i won't be in other ppl's towncore necessarily but i know i'm town so i'm putting myself there obviously)

that means the two scum are in heyden, tom, guava and ace
we have 2 mislynches left why the hell would we waste one of them on u
idk why u have to justify

You want us to respond to our posts specifically or all of them?
girl i have no clue, it rly could be 1/3 for me rn
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i really don't want to trust remy and get rolled for it, but it's going to be easier to dig through if the end is pr v. pr
 
this is why i'm townreading ace


idk why u have to justify


girl i have no clue, it rly could be 1/3 for me rn
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i really don't want to trust remy and get rolled for it, but it's going to be easier to dig through if the end is pr v. pr

That’s my only opinion currently. The information gained from the pr v pr is more important than the actual actions. I haven’t read through everything you quoted yet though.
 
I don’t like that I’m being scumread here tbh but what can ya do besides continue proving ya justice. Ace might be sided with town sure, but lawyer is still in contention and if Ace is lying, they could be the goon thus meaning they’ve been “cleared”.
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lawyer cannot protect themselves, says so in op
You really don’t think lawyer would be ballsy enough to put a target on their back? If they got a doc CC and successfully mislynched, Cop is open season thus their role is no longer needed.
Maybe. But I ain’t doc or lawyer, just vanilla town man. Willing to be mislynched to prove it, but it ain’t the road I’m looking to ride ya know
tom i feel like i'm blindly trusting u as town bc ur my friend, PLEASE do not let me down or i'll cry deadass

oKAY I JUST GOT TO THE PART WHERE ACE FAKE CLAIMS DOC TF.

wow i really am living rent free in all of your minds huh.

listen here's what i dont get. 1. we eliminated a mafia member on d1, which meant one maf and the lawyer are remaining, yes?

i just find it a little convenient that ace would choose now to fake claim doc because literally if anyone targetted his scummy ass he knows he would show up as town-aligned because we still havent nailed the lawyer!! this is actually what i was trying to hint at with my last post and my push to want to eliminate heyden. we can't do any honest investigating without first eliminating the lawyer.

ugh y'all im getting a headache with how often you flip flop on my alignment. i softed that im DOC for a reason, i targetted aerious n0 (inb4 oracle claim) and epona n1. both really strong assets for town.

ngl i honestly stopped reading after the doc fakeclaim, if you wanna believe that go ahead but i'm telling you its might ****ing convenient.
this is where guava started grasping at straws and may have softed epona town

i'm on board for a remy wagon i think
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regardless, d4 there's going to be more answers
 
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