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I don’t think being anti-aerious vote is pro-town. She has a chance to just straight up expose mafia and if not she has a chance to share a confirmed vanilla and it gives us the most information possible on ANY other kill this round.

I’m going to vote for her. Sorry hun.
 
@Tom are you down to kill me?
no? that means we 100% lose 2 town (you as a lynch, and whoever the night kill is)

it's a waste of a mislynch
it’s not a waste of a ml if i hit mafia or provide a confirmed town for d4. i truly believe ace is doctor, so the person will make it to the end
 
so why not kill me for either a confirmed town to take lead OR 1/4 chance of hitting mafia?
Because in the instance Ace is actually mafia, the confirmed town either dies or we just end up in a four person game where we then have to decide if we trust Remy’s results. Killing you is a gamble to win, but I don’t favor those odds for us.

D1 I sussed Guav@ and continued to into D2, it wasn’t a difficult choice and what discussion would I lead us to after Guav@? If you want to go back to OLD TBT Mafia game meta I could have started talking about just leading eliminations against other strong players because “statistically there has to be one in the mafia if both are “noobs””. D3 I’ve been mystified by the lack of an inspect and the decision to kill Heyden as Ace is the optimal mafia play. So that’s why I’ve been gungho about killing off Doc/Cop claims because I want to eliminate the possibility of scum claims.
 
fwiw i'd rather join the tom wagon than the aerious wagon bc this makes no sense to me
 
Because in the instance Ace is actually mafia, the confirmed town either dies or we just end up in a four person game where we then have to decide if we trust Remy’s results. Killing you is a gamble to win, but I don’t favor those odds for us.

D1 I sussed Guav@ and continued to into D2, it wasn’t a difficult choice and what discussion would I lead us to after Guav@? If you want to go back to OLD TBT Mafia game meta I could have started talking about just leading eliminations against other strong players because “statistically there has to be one in the mafia if both are “noobs””. D3 I’ve been mystified by the lack of an inspect and the decision to kill Heyden as Ace is the optimal mafia play. So that’s why I’ve been gungho about killing off Doc/Cop claims because I want to eliminate the possibility of scum claims.
so if the person who i hit dies, ace is scum. or he can redirect to say he healed

@Aerious help me here, how I should protect? Your result if town( if not Remy) or our cop or the other player?
my result if town
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or we stay on remy and eliminate remy, and d3 is still on me. but instead of my result today, it’ll be deduction
 
@Tom are you down to kill me?

it’s not a waste of a ml if i hit mafia or provide a confirmed town for d4. i truly believe ace is doctor, so the person will make it to the end

that's a big if

we lynch you, you expose mafia. great! but unlikely

we lynch you, you confirm someone as town, IF ace is doctor they get to the final 3. which gives us the exact same numerical POE as if you were alive? it's just an extra step that doesn't really do anything for us except waste a valuable ML where we could hit actual mafia
 
I understand Epona and Tom point of view by playing vanilla, but know you have a pr, it actually makes sense what Aerious is suggesting. I also get that you can trust I'm the doctor.
 
I’m honestly not comfortable with the idea of it, because the reason you’re clearly still alive is because of your role. Mafia is never going to hit you, they clearly won’t gamble that much. But if you’re 100% sure this is the optimal strategy, then I’ll trust my friend and go along.
 
that's a big if

we lynch you, you expose mafia. great! but unlikely

we lynch you, you confirm someone as town, IF ace is doctor they get to the final 3. which gives us the exact same numerical POE as if you were alive? it's just an extra step that doesn't really do anything for us except waste a valuable ML where we could hit actual mafia

Then I will only vote Remy or Aerious.
 
I’m honestly not comfortable with the idea of it, because the reason you’re clearly still alive is because of your role. Mafia is never going to hit you, they clearly won’t gamble that much. But if you’re 100% sure this is the optimal strategy, then I’ll trust my friend and go along.
my vote is parked on remy because i won’t be able to trust their invests
 
that's a big if

we lynch you, you expose mafia. great! but unlikely

we lynch you, you confirm someone as town, IF ace is doctor they get to the final 3. which gives us the exact same numerical POE as if you were alive? it's just an extra step that doesn't really do anything for us except waste a valuable ML where we could hit actual mafia
same numerical poe can give someone a better process of elimination bc i feel as though i’m missing the big picture

But do you feel this is the the optimal strategy here
i dunno. either i help by providing someone to lead, or i take lead. i’m actually scared to lose at this point
 
I honestly believe that Aerious target Epona or Tom, since before today's mistake, Remy was town cleared and I was expected to be dead, it wasn't Hayden, because Aerious wouldn't have suggested this to begin with. So tomorrow we have Remy/the other vanilla/Me as suspects which is what Epona is saying. but any other kill is pretty much the same if we kill town.
 
same numerical poe can give someone a better process of elimination bc i feel as though i’m missing the big picture


i dunno. either i help by providing someone to lead, or i take lead. i’m actually scared to lose at this point

i disagree, and i'm not voting for you
 
Question: Jay would you even be suggesting your mislim right now if you picked Heyden the night before?
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nvm dont answer that
 
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