Limited stock/restock anxiety

[ReeBear]

Ngl the anxiety I get from things like this makes me more likely to sit events out entirely for my own mental health.
I liked to think this site was about community and enjoying things together, not trying to beat each other to exclusive prizes.
Like I said, I really appreciate the energy and time the staff put into these events, but when there's limited and hard to obtain currency, it doesn't make sense to also make the collectibles limited and hard to obtain.

Post automatically merged: Apr 7, 2021

Also people's wellbeing is more important than the economy >>
Just my opinion as a disabled person unable to work ahahahaha.

 

[skarmoury]

I'm not going to criticize anyone's opinions as I believe both sides have their points, but I just wanna say that these events are made supposedly for fun and some people (like me jkkgjdjkd) like the rush of limited stocks (not that I dislike having unlimited stocks either, don't get me wrong). If pixels are stressing you out more than making you happy, you should definitely take a step back to reassess what's important for you to worry about. There's no shame in prioritizing yourself over pixels on the internet.

 

[niko@kamogawa]

I don't understand what this anxiety is all about.

However, there's a reason why they can only sell them in limited amounts. It gives those items exclusivity so that people will have a reason to compete for them. It's a collectible after all.

(In fact, I am more curious about the answers more than getting the eggs!)

 

[Lancelot]

I didn’t read everyone’s comments cause I’m a slow reader, but someone said if the intention is to have 100 of an egg why not release them all at once?

If all eggs were in stock from the get-go, the people who find the most eggs first will be able to buy as many of whatever they want first. This would result in the most popular eggs selling out quicker than if there were restocks (like now) and there would almost definitely just be more people moaning that there wasn’t enough eggs to begin with.

I understand that it can be annoying to miss a restock, but as we have to find the eggs no one is going to get their currency at the same pace. People that find the eggs later on or find the hunt challenging are more likely to miss out without restocks imo.

unlike the fair where tickets are distributed at the same time to everyone.

 

[amemome]

I think Jeremy made a comment about restocks (albeit about the house runes) in the March 20th Bell Tree Direct. The rare collectibles are supposed to be rare, which is probably why they paced and limited restocks. I'm sure staff were constantly assessing how many of each egg should be released throughout the event and were considering both egg collectible rarity and collectible demand.

I'm sorry that restocks are a source of anxiety. I think they're supposed to be fun but obviously it isn't fun for everyone.

 

[Corrie]

In my opinion, having limits on the collectables is the best thing because otherwise everyone would have the eggs they wanted and therefore, there wouldn't be a demand for them. The buying/selling market wouldn't be as active. Yeah you can miss out but that's just how it is. The staff can't pick a time that works for everybody.

It's just like how anything else like this irl works.

 

[xSuperMario64x]

I personally don't mind pacing restocks as long as by the end everyone has gotten what they worked for and really wanted

 

[ReeBear]

I personally don't mind pacing restocks as long as by the end everyone has gotten what they worked for and really wanted

Yeee, that's true, I think as long as everyone comes away happy with what they've got after an event then there's no issue with rolling restocks.
I think knowing in advance when the restocks will be would be useful though, especially when people have different time zones, time commitments or poor health that stops them from following the shop as regularly as other users ;w;

Post automatically merged: Apr 7, 2021

Also yee, thanks for sharing different perspectives everyone!
I hadn't considered the rush if catching restocks is part of the fun for some users. I personally don't agree with economy-first based arguments as my experiences of being disabled in a right wing country have been traumatising, but that's my issue ahaha.
I'm gonna sit out of the conversation from here as my health means I have to prioritise other stuff.
Please be kind to each other if you continue to discuss and mindful of other's varying circumstances and health needs!

 

[Rika092]

Honestly I just took Vrisnem and Jeremy's comments as assurance that there'd be enough restocks for everyone to purchase the egg they want, but then when I see people panicking over not able to purchase the prismatic/my melody eggs while still in stock, it somehow installed doubt in my mind that I'd be able to secure one before supply runs out. In hindsight, how silly of me XD, but I agree the kind of psychological impact that "limited edition/limited stock" have on people is definitely not something to be overlooked. Let's see how the mods feel about this ask, but I have to say, if something like this would go so far as to give you STRESS, it's not worth it!... life is already stressful as is so don't let virtual pixels add on to the burden.

 

[Megaroni]

Ngl the anxiety I get from things like this makes me more likely to sit events out entirely for my own mental health.
I liked to think this site was about community and enjoying things together, not trying to beat each other to exclusive prizes.
Like I said, I really appreciate the energy and time the staff put into these events, but when there's limited and hard to obtain currency, it doesn't make sense to also make the collectibles limited and hard to obtain.

Post automatically merged: Apr 7, 2021

Also people's wellbeing is more important than the economy >>
Just my opinion as a disabled person unable to work ahahahaha.

Yes wellbeing is more important than the economy, but at least in my opinion, when the website needs support then that overruns everything. It's not like we're discussing whether or not people should have access to basic needs. In the real world my opinion on the economy is much different than it is here. But if the website depends on traffic to give us collectibles, then this is a great way to get that traffic. These people that are running these events for free aren't really responsible for our well-being. If participating in events is stressful then we should just not do them. Although we then go into accessibility territory and whether or not the entire website should be accessible to people who find events stressful.

I wanted to respond to your comment in particular because I'm also disabled and it greatly affects my ability to function. I'm excited to hear what you have to say (if you choose to respond) because I've been gaslit about these issues my entire life so I might be trying too hard to "side with the wrong people" for lack of a better term. I hope that wasn't too personal, but it does impact my opinions on accessibility and respect. I'm just noticing that there are some holes in my logic that might have been caused by not being able to fully form my own opinions and I want to fill those holes up. I just hope you know that I'm saying all this with an open mind and I intend to change my opinion if you have a more logical opinion than me.

 

[ReeBear]

Yes wellbeing is more important than the economy, but at least in my opinion, when the website needs support then that overruns everything. It's not like we're discussing whether or not people should have access to basic needs. In the real world my opinion on the economy is much different than it is here. But if the website depends on traffic to give us collectibles, then this is a great way to get that traffic. These people that are running these events for free aren't really responsible for our well-being. If participating in events is stressful then we should just not do them. Although we then go into accessibility territory and whether or not the entire website should be accessible to people who find events stressful.

I wanted to respond to your comment in particular because I'm also disabled and it greatly affects my ability to function. I'm excited to hear what you have to say (if you choose to respond) because I've been gaslit about these issues my entire life so I might be trying too hard to "side with the wrong people" for lack of a better term. I hope that wasn't too personal, but it does impact my opinions on accessibility and respect. I'm just noticing that there are some holes in my logic that might have been caused by not being able to fully form my own opinions and I want to fill those holes up. I just hope you know that I'm saying all this with an open mind and I intend to change my opinion if you have a more logical opinion than me.

If it's okay could we PM?
I struggle a lot with internalised ableism so I'd worry that people would see some of my opinions/experiences as an invitation to debate when they're very emotionally loaded for me :'))

 

[Dunquixote]

I don't understand what this anxiety is all about.

However, there's a reason why they can only sell them in limited amounts. It gives those items exclusivity so that people will have a reason to compete for them. It's a collectible after all.

(In fact, I am more curious about the answers more than getting the eggs!)

I believe it is about not getting the egg they wanted to spend their eggs on and being already anxious from the egg hunt like finding the all the eggs before the hunt was over or enough to buy the ones they want. Like the prismatic egg only have 5 in stock at a time and how fast they run out. I can understand the anxiety having severe anxiety myself, but I also understand the other arguments as well. When I went there for the restock and kept refreshing, I was pretty dang anxious about whether or not I’d get the egg. But when and if I get it, I find pretty exhilarating and exciting and feel pretty dang rewarded for all the time i put in trying to figure out the clues. For me, if I didn’t get the eggs I wanted, especially if I only wanted one I’d honestly be really depressed because of how much of a pain to figure out some of the clues were and I don’t have the tbt or collectibles to trade for it.

 

[Velo]

I just wish some of the earlier restocks were bigger! Or, to put it another way - the only thing I would change is the size of restocks (no tiny restocks plz?)
There were some restocks that were 2 or 3 eggs and I was like ‼‼‼‼
Then you wouldn't see another egg for like 8-12 hours which left big sad feels.
I think the one I got mine on was like a 10 pc restock? Which felt like a good amount to me - still super limited and exciting, but enough pcs to actually stand a chance of getting one.

 

[daringred_]

don't know who said it, and i'm not going back to find it, but whoever said (to paraphrase), "if little pixel items make you anxious, you need to step back and reassess your [priorities]" maybe, uh... don't? anxiety isn't always rational. i could tell myself i don't care about not getting X collectible until i'm blue in the face, and i'd still get anxious about the restocks and missing it. just like i can tell myself the cashier isn't going to scream at me when i'm at the shop until i'm blue in the face but still panic about it and ultimately just leave the store instead of paying for my items. don't treat people with mental illness(es) like they're stupid, over-reacting, and/or have their priorities wrong (which, y'know, isn't really for you to decide anyway; someone's priorities not aligning with yours doesn't automatically mean they need reassessing) just because something that doesn't stress/worry you does stress/worry them. if i could not be anxious over the smallest, 'silliest', or most 'insignificant' things, i wouldn't, but it's not something i can control. i don't sit there and think, "hm, y'know what? i think i will worry about missing the restock and not getting the collectible i gave up time/energy for, subsequently causing myself unnecessary stress, mental exhaustion, and general unpleasantness" lmao, it just happens.

as for the topic: i don't agree with prioritizing an (especially online) economy over people's happiness/well-being. i don't think having unlimited stock for the prizes would've significantly altered the traffic the website received during the event either way. people still had to find 15 clues to buy the prismatic egg regardless of whether or not it had limited stock, and they still had to spend X amount of time on the site looking for said 15 clues. i'd rather see everyone who wanted a prismatic egg and worked hard to find enough clues get one than see those same people miss out and be upset because of an ultimately needless limit. you can't convince me having one event with unlimited stock for the prizes would've crashed, or even significantly negatively impacted, the ""economy"" when there are multiple events a year and already a plethora of 'rare' collectibles.

also, yes, i can say this and still be grateful/appreciate of the staff running these events. they don't have to do anything like this, and it's great that they do, and they have my gratitude for that, but it doesn't then make them (or their actions) immune to criticism.

 

[Lancelot]

I feel like the egg hunt is more of a contest than an event. You get rewarded for finding the eggs first or fast, so I don’t think it should be any surprise that for finding eggs fast you get priority for the shop items.

Like whether it’s convenient or not I think it makes sense that people that find the eggs fastest get their pick of the more expensive ones.

Post automatically merged: Apr 8, 2021

Similarly, if you’re very active on the forums throughout the year the egg hunt is far easier, so being rewarded for being active sounds fair to me, idk

 

[daringred_]

I feel like the egg hunt is more of a contest than an event. You get rewarded for finding the eggs first or fast, so I don’t think it should be any surprise that for finding eggs fast you get priority for the shop items.

Like whether it’s convenient or not I think it makes sense that people that find the eggs fastest get their pick of the more expensive ones.

Post automatically merged: Apr 8, 2021

Similarly, if you’re very active on the forums throughout the year the egg hunt is far easier, so being rewarded for being active sounds fair to me, idk

the only egg you actively compete for is the golden egg, which there's only one of and goes to the fastest person. as for the second statement... you could be as active on here as you like and still struggle with the event because you suck at puzzles/riddles or don't venture out of a few select forums or have english as a secondary language or have learning difficulties. that line of thinking actively punishes those people as well as people who might, y'know, have a life offline? a steady job they have to go to, a family to manage/spend time with, schedules that aren't flexible through no fault of the individual's own. that's why the event spans multiple days -- to give everyone a chance to participate. it isn't fair at all to punish people for struggling, being ""stupid""* or having real life commitments. what does anyone get from that?

* for the record, i don't think anyone is stupid. period. some people just need more time/help than others, some just aren't any good at riddles/mental puzzles, some people have learning difficulties etc.

 

[Lancelot]

the only egg you actively compete for is the golden egg, which there's only one of and goes to the fastest person. as for the second statement... you could be as active on here as you like and still struggle with the event because you suck at puzzles/riddles or don't venture out of a few select forums or have english as a secondary language or have learning difficulties. that line of thinking actively punishes those people as well as people who might, y'know, have a life offline? a steady job they have to go to, a family to manage/spend time with, schedules that aren't flexible through no fault of the individual's own. that's why the event spans multiple days -- to give everyone a chance to participate. it isn't fair at all to punish people for struggling, being ""stupid""* or having real life commitments. what does anyone get from that?

* for the record, i don't think anyone is stupid. period. some people just need more time/help than others, some just aren't any good at riddles/mental puzzles, some people have learning difficulties etc.

That's a very glass half empty way of looking at it. Even if you are "stupid" or bad at puzzle-solving, being active on the forums throughout the year, whether you're dumb or not, is going to help. And these people get rewarded for it.

There's plenty of other events throughout the year, like a fair, that don't require you to be active. Plenty of people just show up for that.

If you have other schedules that stop this event being as enjoyable then that's just life really. You have to choose what to prioritise.

 

[daringred_]

That's a very glass half empty way of looking at it. Even if you are "stupid" or bad at puzzle-solving, being active on the forums throughout the year, whether you're dumb or not, is going to help. And these people get rewarded for it.

There's plenty of other events throughout the year, like a fair, that don't require you to be active. Plenty of people just show up for that.

If you have other schedules that stop this event being as enjoyable then that's just life really. You have to choose what to prioritise.

you might want to reread what i actually wrote.

 

[xlisapisa]

I actually like limited stocks/restocks, to me that makes certain collectibles more exclusive. Yeah it may suck when I don’t get what I want, but on the flip side it makes the collectible(s) way more meaningful to me when I actually do acquire them. If everyone was able to get whatever they wanted, whenever they wanted, the collectible(s) would not mean as much cause everyone already has them. And like others have said, it’s the rush. There would be no challenge in getting my dream line up if it was all easily accessible. The rush is what keeps me going. Obviously this is not to discount everyone who is against it, just how I personally feel about them.

 

[ReeBear]

don't know who said it, and i'm not going back to find it, but whoever said (to paraphrase), "if little pixel items make you anxious, you need to step back and reassess your [priorities]" maybe, uh... don't? anxiety isn't always rational. i could tell myself i don't care about not getting X collectible until i'm blue in the face, and i'd still get anxious about the restocks and missing it. just like i can tell myself the cashier isn't going to scream at me when i'm at the shop until i'm blue in the face but still panic about it and ultimately just leave the store instead of paying for my items. don't treat people with mental illness(es) like they're stupid, over-reacting, and/or have their priorities wrong (which, y'know, isn't really for you to decide anyway; someone's priorities not aligning with yours doesn't automatically mean they need reassessing) just because something that doesn't stress/worry you does stress/worry them. if i could not be anxious over the smallest, 'silliest', or most 'insignificant' things, i wouldn't, but it's not something i can control. i don't sit there and think, "hm, y'know what? i think i will worry about missing the restock and not getting the collectible i gave up time/energy for, subsequently causing myself unnecessary stress, mental exhaustion, and general unpleasantness" lmao, it just happens.

as for the topic: i don't agree with prioritizing an (especially online) economy over people's happiness/well-being. i don't think having unlimited stock for the prizes would've significantly altered the traffic the website received during the event either way. people still had to find 15 clues to buy the prismatic egg regardless of whether or not it had limited stock, and they still had to spend X amount of time on the site looking for said 15 clues. i'd rather see everyone who wanted a prismatic egg and worked hard to find enough clues get one than see those same people miss out and be upset because of an ultimately needless limit. you can't convince me having one event with unlimited stock for the prizes would've crashed, or even significantly negatively impacted, the ""economy"" when there are multiple events a year and already a plethora of 'rare' collectibles.

also, yes, i can say this and still be grateful/appreciate of the staff running these events. they don't have to do anything like this, and it's great that they do, and they have my gratitude for that, but it doesn't then make them (or their actions) immune to criticism.

This sums up my feelings really well, you’re so good at putting things into words!

Especially the last point - appreciating the staff for running these events and wanting to open a conversation about how we could make said events more accessible are not mutually exclusive actions!