~Miss Panda's Art Thread~

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I agree with Zane >__< Right now you simply need to acknowledge and respect the state you’re in. Don't let a temporary discouragement become a further blow to your confidence and self-worth. As Winston Churchill once said: “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

Easier said than done, but I appreciate the thought. Thanks. I don't think I'd ever be able to flat-out quit, but I can't pick and choose what deals blows to my self-confidence.

And the blows keep coming. Someone backs out of my auction/retracts bid saying they need their bells for other prior commitments, etc, and then goes and bids even higher in someone else's after I close my auction. I guess mine just wasn't good enough.

I'm feeling really crappy right now.

I just want to catch a break or something. I asked for palette requests on tumblr to see if I can spark my muse and yet I get 90% pokemon requests when I don't draw pokemon.
 
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Art slumps are really the worst, especially at the start of the year when you want to start up in a positive and happy light! They are hard and they really suck, but you'll get through them, every single one, and you'll come out of them better than before. Your art is improving sooo much even just in the small time that I've been following (sorta silently haha) your art. Sometimes (or lots of times) your art wont come out the way you wanted, I know it happens to me all the time, but you can always redraw and try again, or accept the mistakes and improve on them next time! And making OCs is hard but they take time to develop too, all of mine are still in the making and there's no problem with that.
And as for seeing other people's success as your failure, its one big thing all artists need to overcome. It is really hard when you try to make a cool auction or something and it fails, or people pull out and bid on other peoples and its not fun! I know when I messaged you asking for advice on my raffle, I felt absolutely terrible, like no one would ever like or want my art ever again! But I went with your word and continued with it, and I'm glad I did, as much as it took a big chunk of my self esteem away, I made some people happy and improved on my art. So thank you for your help and I hope you find some comfort in knowing you're not alone.
Anyway I dunno where I'm going with this, but your art is really great, and it might seem like you're not improving but i'm certain you'll look back on this and see how much you have improved and be very proud of yourself for pulling through a bad time.
That said, if you really feel the need to close the thread or end an auction, you are absolutely free to, you can always start them up again when you're feeling better. Although I would miss you thread a lot!
(as for the people on tumblr asking you to draw pokemon, they are the worst haha some people are so set on requesting what they want they dont even think about what the artist actually draws lmao (it was me who requested Asami, so if you dont wanna draw her don't feel obliged to at all!))
Good luck!
 
Art slumps are really the worst, especially at the start of the year when you want to start up in a positive and happy light! They are hard and they really suck, but you'll get through them, every single one, and you'll come out of them better than before. Your art is improving sooo much even just in the small time that I've been following (sorta silently haha) your art. Sometimes (or lots of times) your art wont come out the way you wanted, I know it happens to me all the time, but you can always redraw and try again, or accept the mistakes and improve on them next time! And making OCs is hard but they take time to develop too, all of mine are still in the making and there's no problem with that.
And as for seeing other people's success as your failure, its one big thing all artists need to overcome. It is really hard when you try to make a cool auction or something and it fails, or people pull out and bid on other peoples and its not fun! I know when I messaged you asking for advice on my raffle, I felt absolutely terrible, like no one would ever like or want my art ever again! But I went with your word and continued with it, and I'm glad I did, as much as it took a big chunk of my self esteem away, I made some people happy and improved on my art. So thank you for your help and I hope you find some comfort in knowing you're not alone.
Anyway I dunno where I'm going with this, but your art is really great, and it might seem like you're not improving but i'm certain you'll look back on this and see how much you have improved and be very proud of yourself for pulling through a bad time.
That said, if you really feel the need to close the thread or end an auction, you are absolutely free to, you can always start them up again when you're feeling better. Although I would miss you thread a lot!
(as for the people on tumblr asking you to draw pokemon, they are the worst haha some people are so set on requesting what they want they dont even think about what the artist actually draws lmao (it was me who requested Asami, so if you dont wanna draw her don't feel obliged to at all!))
Good luck!

Rather than just an art slump, it's feeling more like depression. So many things are going wrong IRL and online both and I just can't seem to get my footing down and getting that positive-thinking running. I know things have to run their course, but it's so frustrating when 2014 ended up being a good year for me. I was really looking forward to taking that optimism with me into 2015. And now it keeps coming back to hit me in the face repeatedly. Anyway, as far as art and OCs go, I still feel that I'm going backward instead of forward. Like something in me just got skewed the wrong way and now I can't do what I was doing just a month ago, even. And it's frustrating, especially knowing that I can do better and I expect it of myself.

I didn't know if that had helped you at all, but I'm glad it did in some way. As a curse, it seems like it's always easier to be positive when trying to encourage someone else, but a lot harder when it comes to yourself. I think that's true for not just a lot of people in general, but a lot of artists, specifically. But yeah, I have no plans to give up. I just wanted to see more from myself when I knew I could better, and instead it's like that part of me just up and vanished and I have no idea where it went or how to look for it. Anyway, with the encouragement you guys have been giving me, I won't close the thread---I probably would have regretted it if I did and as of last year, I decided to stop making emotional decisions that I knew I would later come to regret. I try to take a step back in those cases and be patient. Being patient is never easy, though.

I honestly have no idea why so many people sent me pokemon requests. They never did before. I'm clearly not much of a pokemon player and I never blog anything about it there, so I don't know where everyone got the idea that I wanted to draw pokemon. o_Oa And lol, I had no idea that was you! To be honest, I figured it was the same person who asked me to do Asami in #73 last year.

Thanks for the message and taking the time to say all of that, though. I do appreciate it. I can't promise I'll bounce back immediately, but I always do, somehow. I'll just have to try to be patient.




And so I don't post-merge, just a link I want to drop here:

If anyone has a pink feather or red pinwheel TBT collectible that they would consider selling, I'm offering EXCLUSIVE art of mine here in exchange for one or both: http://www.belltreeforums.com/showthread.php?255722-Pink-Feather-and-Red-Pinwheel

Note: Full-colored full-body art or chibi full-colored couples WILL NOT ever be offered in my shops or as requests. They take far too much time and effort to do for me to put them up for sale like that. So this is a one-of-a-kind opportunity in that sense (special circumstances aside), seeing as full-body and multi-character art all in full color are the most expensive of my RL commission work. But to complete my collectible collection, I'm willing to offer them this one time.
 
Oof, depressed periods are hard, if you need someone to chat to, my inbox is always open, i have a bit of experience with them! If you think its getting worse or is distressing you, you should reach out to someone close to you and just let them know how you're feeling, but i'm sure you know that as well. Depression can do horrible things to a muse, as you're feeling now. Try not to push yourself too much, just enough, and try to remember that you're looking at things with a negative light on them, they look much better to someone else. Hopefully what you're feeling clears up soon!

Urgh, it is a curse, I wish we could all cheer ourselves on as much as other people can for us! I'm glad you're not giving up and making emotional decisions, thats a big step in the right direction even if you made that decision a while ago. That part of you will come back eventually, I hate being the 'it gets better person' because it always sounds better for it to be back now, but it'll come back, even if you have to work hard to praise yourself a bit more or give yourself a bit more of a break when you're going through a bit of a hard time.

Hahaha, so random, i wonder if they're just random people who found you in the tags or if they're your followers who've forgotten you don't play pokemon? Oooh i might have to track down that other drawing you did of Asami :D

Good luck (again) with everything and good luck with trading for a pink feather/red pinwheel!
 
Oof, depressed periods are hard, if you need someone to chat to, my inbox is always open, i have a bit of experience with them! If you think its getting worse or is distressing you, you should reach out to someone close to you and just let them know how you're feeling, but i'm sure you know that as well. Depression can do horrible things to a muse, as you're feeling now. Try not to push yourself too much, just enough, and try to remember that you're looking at things with a negative light on them, they look much better to someone else. Hopefully what you're feeling clears up soon!

Urgh, it is a curse, I wish we could all cheer ourselves on as much as other people can for us! I'm glad you're not giving up and making emotional decisions, thats a big step in the right direction even if you made that decision a while ago. That part of you will come back eventually, I hate being the 'it gets better person' because it always sounds better for it to be back now, but it'll come back, even if you have to work hard to praise yourself a bit more or give yourself a bit more of a break when you're going through a bit of a hard time.

Hahaha, so random, i wonder if they're just random people who found you in the tags or if they're your followers who've forgotten you don't play pokemon? Oooh i might have to track down that other drawing you did of Asami :D

Good luck (again) with everything and good luck with trading for a pink feather/red pinwheel!

I appreciate the offer, thanks. There isn't really someone I feel comfortable talking to it about at the moment. My mother has heart problems and my father is recovering from his 4+ year struggle with Leukemia. I don't feel right dumping any of my problems on them and I just try to do everything I can for them especially when my mother gets stubborn and tries to do things she shouldn't be doing. I do have a couple online friends I'm really close to that I could talk to about it and I do sometimes, but one of them also battles depression, so it doesn't feel right loading it all off on them either. But thanks. I'll just hang in there. I generally do believe that things get better. And with all of my wrist/hand aches lately, it's probably best that I don't push things too far with drawing and the like, either. I wanted to be fired up for the new year, but maybe I just need to take it more slowly and carefully, instead.

Making decisions when you're feeling really emotional (at least on the negative side of emotions) is definitely a mistake. I've rarely had it turn out well for me. And sometimes it's difficult not to follow through with what those emotions are driving you to do, but in the end, it's worth it when you don't. I usually find that about an hour later, I'm already glad to know I didn't go through with whatever I was planning to say/do. Patience is a virtue, though, and I guess I need to stop thinking that I have to do everything at once. I wanted to start the year off with a real bang in everything I do, but perhaps I should focus those energies into something art took the place of last year, like a lot of my Let's Play stuff.

Hard to say, lol. I'd have thought it was the same person making multiples, except that at least two of them actually sent logged-in requests and they're different people. I suppose with Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire having been released not too long ago, people are really hyped on Pokemon currently or something. I just wonder why they didn't notice there's literally none of it on my blog.

I'll save you the trouble of looking for the Asami piece. It's here:

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I can't draw BGs for crap, but Asami herself was a pretty fun challenge. I know it's not the logo for Future Industries but I was way too lazy to look it up to be perfectly accurate.

Anyway, thank you! I appreciate the well wishes, good luck, and everything else.
 
Doodles from tumblr:

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Also relevant to the people posting here in my thread and saying nice things.
 
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Wow your art is completely amazing! I wish I could do what you do, it is really amazing <3
 
Wow your art is completely amazing! I wish I could do what you do, it is really amazing <3

Aww, thanks a lot! I'm honored that you think so.

Just keep at it and you'll get better with time and effort! The key to art (in my opinion) is to not give up no matter how frustrating things get, to challenge yourself/experiment and expand your limitations, and to take your time with improving and doing art in general. No one becomes an amazing artist overnight! Hard work and dedication will always take you places. You'll get there. : )
 
Aww, thanks a lot! I'm honored that you think so.

Just keep at it and you'll get better with time and effort! The key to art (in my opinion) is to not give up no matter how frustrating things get, to challenge yourself/experiment and expand your limitations, and to take your time with improving and doing art in general. No one becomes an amazing artist overnight! Hard work and dedication will always take you places. You'll get there. : )

Thank you so much for the tip :D I can't wait to see some more of your work as this year progresses
 
-hugs amissa- im really sorry youve not been feeling well. ive been dealing with depression since i was a kid, so i understand completely how you feel. i often hate my art, hate everything i create, see all the flaws in it.

but, people often tell me that its good, or whatever else have you. (i tend not to believe them but thats my issue) anyway, i think its that people see it with an unbiased view. they werent in your head when you drew/wrote the thing, they didnt know what you had planned (unless you tell them), so all they see is the finished product. that way, they dont have all the voices inside telling them that its awful and terrible and "i shouldve done this" or "i forgot that". theyre honest and they see it for what it is. i mean, not everyone is going to like everything, but the people that do.

as mentioned above, its still early in the year. you have time. and try not to be too hard on yourself if you dont reach your goal completely. youre doing a wonderful job regardless, and were here to support you. <333
(im sorry if i repeated/missed anything i didnt fully read everything since im having trouble focusing today)

anyway ilu and i hope you feel better!!!
 
Thank you so much for the tip :D I can't wait to see some more of your work as this year progresses

You're welcome! And thanks - here's to hoping it's a good year of art for both of us. : )

-hugs amissa- im really sorry youve not been feeling well. ive been dealing with depression since i was a kid, so i understand completely how you feel. i often hate my art, hate everything i create, see all the flaws in it.

but, people often tell me that its good, or whatever else have you. (i tend not to believe them but thats my issue) anyway, i think its that people see it with an unbiased view. they werent in your head when you drew/wrote the thing, they didnt know what you had planned (unless you tell them), so all they see is the finished product. that way, they dont have all the voices inside telling them that its awful and terrible and "i shouldve done this" or "i forgot that". theyre honest and they see it for what it is. i mean, not everyone is going to like everything, but the people that do.

as mentioned above, its still early in the year. you have time. and try not to be too hard on yourself if you dont reach your goal completely. youre doing a wonderful job regardless, and were here to support you. <333
(im sorry if i repeated/missed anything i didnt fully read everything since im having trouble focusing today)

anyway ilu and i hope you feel better!!!

It really is something very sucky to deal with, I agree. I haven't had it since I was a kid, though, so I can only imagine how hard that's been for you. Depression was a big problem in a lot of my family. I think the biggest wake-up call we all got was when my little brother attempted suicide. Until that point, we didn't KNOW he had been depressed, because he kept it all in. And it made me feel guilty since his method (pill overdose) was something I had earlier considered in life but chickened out of. Since then, I take depression very seriously and I do everything in my power to fend off any poisonous thoughts. After seeing what my brother went through being stuck in ICU for 3 days and having his stomach pumped, I never want to be in that sort of situation. And years and years later now, he's so happy and has come so far. He's an EMT and has a girlfriend of almost 2 years (in February) who he is hopelessly in love with and I think it's really only a matter of time before he proposes. And when he was visiting up here this past summer he told me that he was glad he never succeeded because of all he would have missed in his life that he found in the following years. So even when I fall into self-depreciating episodes and despising everything I make and/or do and how I look, etc, I try to remember the positive things in life. Family, friends, people who believe in you even when you don't believe in yourself, and that a brighter future is possible if you let yourself see that you deserve happiness as much as anyone else. It's a big lesson to learn and hard to accept for people with depression, especially but it's absolutely true. And I hope that you find your way out of the darkness, as well.

That's a good point about the bias and unbiased opinions. We always see our own flaws much more clearly and strongly. And in that way, they stand out to us a lot more than they would to someone else looking at the art. But their view is the view without the prejudice and pre-judgements we have already made. They're seeing the art for what it is, rather than what it's not. And that's something I've been trying to slowly teach myself. Flaws are always going to exist and although we strive to improve and not make those flaws, it's human and we shouldn't beat ourselves up for something not turning out exactly how we wanted. There's always next time, after all.

It is early in the year, though, as you and others have said. I think it was more the high that I came off of in art for 2014 that left me wanting that same level to continue. I expected it and so when I didn't feel like I got even close to what I already knew I was capable of, I got discouraged and wondered if something had just been a stroke of luck or a fluke that they turned out the way they did. It's a negative pattern of thinking and very harmful. I never should have let myself start thinking that way, but it's hard when it seems like a lot of things are going badly.

Thanks so much for the support and I offer mine back to you, as well. I hope you have a great year of art and I hope you feel better, too.
 
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Congrats on winning my giveaway! Here's your Mayor Takashi! I decided to do a sketch page/sketch set instead of just a single sketch. It took awhile, but somehow, I doubt you'll mind. XD





As a side note... if I were to offer these traditional sketch pages like these for around 1000 TBT, would people be interested? They're still time consuming, but at least I'm not tearing my wrist off with coloring. Let me know if you'd be interested in buying if they were to be put up in my shop?

Thank you!
 
As a side note... if I were to offer these traditional sketch pages like these for around 1000 TBT, would people be interested? They're still time consuming, but at least I'm not tearing my wrist off with coloring. Let me know if you'd be interested in buying if they were to be put up in my shop?


Thank you!

Yes! Would it cost extra to add in a villager?
 
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Congrats on winning my giveaway! Here's your Mayor Takashi! I decided to do a sketch page/sketch set instead of just a single sketch. It took awhile, but somehow, I doubt you'll mind. XD





As a side note... if I were to offer these traditional sketch pages like these for around 1000 TBT, would people be interested? They're still time consuming, but at least I'm not tearing my wrist off with coloring. Let me know if you'd be interested in buying if they were to be put up in my shop?

Thank you!

really beautiful.
wish I had 1k to offer you in tbt.
 
As a side note... if I were to offer these traditional sketch pages like these for around 1000 TBT, would people be interested? They're still time consuming, but at least I'm not tearing my wrist off with coloring. Let me know if you'd be interested in buying if they were to be put up in my shop?

Thank you!

Fabulous sketch <3

I'd totally pay 1k !
 
I saw what happened with your auction and I'm sorry that happened to you. :( I dunno if you considered it, but I've noticed in some other artist's auctions that they have a rule that doesn't allow for bid withdrawals. That might be something to think about in future auctions.

Hope things do get better for you though. While I think your stuff is lovely, it makes complete sense that you nitpick it to death. We are our own worst critic after all. XP Something someone else might not notice, you see it since you're the one who made it. I dunno if a break from drawing would help, especially if you're getting frustrated.

Never good to work on something you're upset about. I know there's emotional things that you're going through as well, though... I'm not exactly good with words in that area. (never the best with words in general... I try... /shot)

I do love the stuff that you've drawn so far this year and can't wait to see what else is in store later on. That sketch sheet is super cute! I would totally be interested in one of those. :)
 
Yes! Would it cost extra to add in a villager?

More than likely, yes. Animals/Villagers/etc are not my strong point (to put it very lightly) and I struggle with them a lot. But thanks for bringing that up. I'll probably offer it as a potential add-on.

really beautiful.
wish I had 1k to offer you in tbt.

Thank you! And the sentiment is appreciated, thanks!

Fabulous sketch <3

I'd totally pay 1k !

Thanks a lot! : ) And thanks for the input!

I saw what happened with your auction and I'm sorry that happened to you. :( I dunno if you considered it, but I've noticed in some other artist's auctions that they have a rule that doesn't allow for bid withdrawals. That might be something to think about in future auctions.

Hope things do get better for you though. While I think your stuff is lovely, it makes complete sense that you nitpick it to death. We are our own worst critic after all. XP Something someone else might not notice, you see it since you're the one who made it. I dunno if a break from drawing would help, especially if you're getting frustrated.

Never good to work on something you're upset about. I know there's emotional things that you're going through as well, though... I'm not exactly good with words in that area. (never the best with words in general... I try... /shot)

I do love the stuff that you've drawn so far this year and can't wait to see what else is in store later on. That sketch sheet is super cute! I would totally be interested in one of those. :)

Yeah, to be honest, I should have thought of putting that rule in sooner. I was naive enough to assume that it was kind of an unspoken rule not to bid if you didn't intend on following through. But since the rule wasn't written in stone on my OP, I didn't really have a choice. If they wanted to pull out and bid on another auction instead, I couldn't stop them. And I didn't want it to fall back on The Hidden Owl, since I know they were saving up (and they were the last bid before the drop-out bid), so it was just better to close it to avoid any sticky situations. I probably won't do one again for a long while, though. That was quite a blow to my self-confidence.

Thanks, I appreciate it. I have been feeling better the last couple of days. I had a chat with a friend and some things went on the positive side for a change, so it's helping to draw my mood up. I know it wouldn't hurt to take a break for awhile, but drawing is really something I enjoy and I have been feeling somewhat inspired--it just wasn't turning things out the way I wanted. But I'll have to work around that. At the very least, I can throw the OC on the back-burner for now until I feel ready to tackle him again.

Again, thanks for the input and kind words. I really do appreciate it. I'm going to try to lighten up on my expectations of myself a bit and just go with the flow for awhile. Maybe in that case, I might surprise myself.
 
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Congrats on winning my giveaway! Here's your Mayor Takashi! I decided to do a sketch page/sketch set instead of just a single sketch. It took awhile, but somehow, I doubt you'll mind. XD

i'm literally crying omfg ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;w; like this is so much more than i expected you're so sweet this is just ahhhhmg he's too cute fffffffff tysm bless <3 your art is literally A+++ and you are perf ;3; ilysm
 
i'm literally crying omfg ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;w; like this is so much more than i expected you're so sweet this is just ahhhhmg he's too cute fffffffff tysm bless <3 your art is literally A+++ and you are perf ;3; ilysm

*hands a hankie* I'm glad that you liked it! I thought I'd surprise you. Hahaha. And you're very welcome. : ) I'm honored that you enjoy my art!
 
smooches, thank you for all the kind words amissa <333 im really sorry that happened to your brother, but i am so glad hes doing well now!!! i just know things will start looking up for you <33

and id totally pay 1k for a sketchpage if i had more TBT O:
 
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