Nintendo just confirmed no more updates coming.

Regarding development, as some may already know, there is some crossover between the team that works on Animal Crossing and Splatoon. For anyone who is interested, there was a deep dive on Reddit a while back (source) that found 39% of the Splatoon 2 staff worked on New Horizons.

Not sure if there's been any followup research done about Splatoon 3, but it seems plausible development issues may be the result of having to work on two major franchises at once. Personally, I was happy with both games all things considered, but it seems like it would be advantageous for both series if they had their own separate development teams.
 
Not sure if there's been any followup research done about Splatoon 3, but it seems plausible development issues may be the result of having to work on two major franchises at once.
I'm on it now! I've got about 20 people so far 💀
 
I feel that New Horizons had a good run.



Hopefully, Nintendo will listen to the players and make the next game like a mix between New Horizons and New Leaf.
 
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The fact that they were adding major things after release is what gives me that idea. Diving, Brewster, Katrina, Redd, etc. There were lots of things missing. You'd think those would be main things already done. It was rushed out and an unfinished product hit the shelves.

I'm not sure where I'd find the interview, but I'm pretty sure Nintendo even said themselves that they didn't have time to implement everything they wanted in the game--even after they delayed the game to avoid crunch--and that's why so many features had to be added overtime.

The game may have been technically "in development" since the release of New Leaf, but I'm not convinced it was in active development (i.e. programmers were sitting at computer desks for long hours, working on actually bringing the game into fruition) for the entire duration of that time.

Well, unless you find the interview, I'm gonna go by what the lead developers actually said about the updates throughout 2020 & 2021 from this article, with the specific part quoted below:

"As Animal Crossing is a game that can be played for a number of years, its designers are keeping the long term in mind. Kyogoku and Nogami’s plan for New Horizons includes seasonal events slated to appear in the game via DLC. Players won’t be able to simply fast-forward through time to experience them.

“Adding all the seasonal events by updates wasn’t our way to shun away time travel by any means,” Kyogoku said. “But Animal Crossing is a game that users are able to play and enjoy throughout the year.”

I unfortunately think that the pandemic exacerbated the frustration of not having everything available from the start. If people were working and going to school normally, y'all know not nearly as many people would have grabbed this game on release and/or had the time to play through so much of it before a new update could be added.
 
The matter of the pandemic with regards to the game is irrelevant imo, when you consider the fact that New Leaf is also a game that can be played throughout the years and has a lot of replayability. Yet they never stopped updating New Leaf years after it was out. So like... I don't understand the reasoning behind that? Stuff happens in life that we can't control, and developers have to do their best when making a game in spite of anything that may occur. Much like a professional sports player will continue to do their best regardless of external influences or factors of what people are saying. It stands to reason that they had plenty of time to come out with a better game and didn't.

That's all I'll say on this topic. Going to stop posting now.
 
I'm on it now! I've got about 20 people so far 💀
The amount of shared people between AC:NH and Splatoon 3 at NCL is 49, including the general producers Shinya Takahashi and AC series creator Katsuya Eguchi, out of a total 253 named staff at NCL. This is 19% of the dev team, mostly in the art and programming sections from what I've gathered.
 
The amount of shared people between AC:NH and Splatoon 3 at NCL is 49, including the general producers Shinya Takahashi and AC series creator Katsuya Eguchi, out of a total 253 named staff at NCL. This is 19% of the dev team, mostly in the art and programming sections from what I've gathered.

Interesting! It would be really cool to see all of the behind the scenes there, like a "day in the life" of any of these developers. I wonder if it made making things for either game more frustrating/inconsistent since they were working on such different things, or if that helped them to really enjoy both projects since they could not be working on the same thing every day (or maybe it doesn't work like that at all, haha). Curious now about previous AC installment dev team numbers and if any of them had other big-name projects happening at the same time they were working on those games 😄
 
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Well, unless you find the interview, I'm gonna go by what the lead developers actually said about the updates throughout 2020 & 2021 from this article, with the specific part quoted below:
That quote pertains to seasonal events, which aren't even necessarily the missing content we were discussing in the first place.

I unfortunately think that the pandemic exacerbated the frustration of not having everything available from the start. If people were working and going to school normally, y'all know not nearly as many people would have grabbed this game on release and/or had the time to play through so much of it before a new update could be added.
I didn't start playing the game until things were quickly getting somewhat back to normal and even though I enjoyed my time with it, and still do when I find the time to put it in--I found many aspects of its design to be rather underwhelming. There's also the argument that has been pervasive as long as DLC has existed about content that should just be on the disc or cartridge to begin with being tied to DLC. Even when the DLC is free, that means people with limited or no internet connection can't enjoy the full experience. And while this isn't the case for New Horizons as far as I'm aware, it's not unreasonable to be distrustful when this sort of release strategy has historically been used to restrict people who choose to purchase the game secondhand.

I thankfully live in an area with fairly decent internet capabilities, but particularly as the game also expects me to pay for a subscription to Nintendo Switch Online in order to access features that were free or could otherwise work entirely offline without internet at all in previous installments, I can't help empathize severely with those who don't, because even with a strong internet connection, downloading updates is--in the best of scenarios--extremely inconvenient.

So while I'm sure the pandemic didn't help by any means, I think the game was always doomed to be looked back at retrospectively as weaker than its predecessors. And again, I say this is as someone who is generally positive about the game.
 
"Nintendo just confirmed no more updates coming" after I already knew it was over with the 2.0 update, I suppose some people need it repeated to them because they thought Nintendo was gonna change their minds or something

Moving along anyways I still play this game every single day since I started on December 16 2020 and I'm going to continue playing it everyday updates or no updates until I finally get sick of this game, I love decorating over and over and I still have over 300 villagers I've never lived with before(because this is my first animal crossing game) this game has been my #1 favorite for two years and a major obsession of mine and I can't see what game would replace it but I can clearly see why other fans have their reasons why they are disappointed with this game, I wish people could have gotten to enjoy this game as long as new leaf but it is what it is 🤷‍♂️
 
That quote pertains to seasonal events, which aren't even necessarily the missing content we were discussing in the first place.


I didn't start playing the game until things were quickly getting somewhat back to normal and even though I enjoyed my time with it, and still do when I find the time to put it in--I found many aspects of its design to be rather underwhelming. There's also the argument that has been pervasive as long as DLC has existed about content that should just be on the disc or cartridge to begin with being tied to DLC. Even when the DLC is free, that means people with limited or no internet connection can't enjoy the full experience. And while this isn't the case for New Horizons as far as I'm aware, it's not unreasonable to be distrustful when this sort of release strategy has historically been used to restrict people who choose to purchase the game secondhand.

I thankfully live in an area with fairly decent internet capabilities, but particularly as the game also expects me to pay for a subscription to Nintendo Switch Online in order to access features that were free or could otherwise work entirely offline without internet at all in previous installments, I can't help empathize severely with those who don't, because even with a strong internet connection, downloading updates is--in the best of scenarios--extremely inconvenient.

So while I'm sure the pandemic didn't help by any means, I think the game was always doomed to be looked back at retrospectively as weaker than its predecessors. And again, I say this is as someone who is generally positive about the game.
this right here tbh. The release of content with this game is one of my only major complaints coming from someone who's played wild world. Most people who joined in the big pandemic wave won't be able to experience series staples such as gyroids and the roost. 2.0 in general is what the game should have been at launch. People without internet can't experience this either, so it's always going to be in a sort of awkward place. That said, I'm not deeply dissatisfied with the game at all, and it's a personal favorite, but we can't let things like this slide. They should've kept the updates related to seasonal events tbh, and even then the argument for people without good internet exists. The fact that there needs to be a "complete guide" coming out years after the first and now outdated one is a problem.
 
That quote pertains to seasonal events, which aren't even necessarily the missing content we were discussing in the first place.
That’s fair. I wouldn’t be surprised if things (content) were intentionally held back to add more to later updates, especially given that nearly everything was datamined very early on. But unless Nintendo wants to release a tell-all or someone comes out with credible evidence, we will never know 100% what was ready at release and intentionally held back, and regardless of literally anything, there will always be people who aren't happy with the game (and don't want to be haha)
 
It seems that the lifetime of New Leaf was a lot longer than New Horizons. One thing that puzzles me is that we get two celebratory arches and then no more. In the final update, couldn't they have just added the rest?
 
There's a Nintendo Direct tomorrow. Surely there's one more update, right? Hahaha.


ha....
I'm not expecting any AC information in the Direct tbh. If anything, I'd be more surprised than disappointed if any AC information shows up than if it didn't.

And this is just my own speculative analysis: Mario Kart 8 is still getting updates, until the end of this year, while AC the second most popular game on the Switch had its last major update a year ago? One would think that with Nintendo they'd be promoting the mess out of the game that is the currently most popular game in Japan of all time, but...no. Even BotW is still getting a lot of love from Nintendo, and while I understand that it has a sequel coming out soon, the initial game came out in 2017. So why does it feel like Nintendo is distancing from Animal Crossing New Horizons, even though the game should still pretty hot with an active user base?

It seems like Nintendo is trying to take a step back and reevaluate how they handle the Animal Crossing IP and how the consumer base relates and interacts with it. If this is true, it's pretty understandable why it seems like they're sunsetting this game so early compared to others. I mean, given everything that took place over the last two years involving their Animal Crossing property, if this is what they're doing, it makes sense to me. This game struck lighting in a bottle, took the entire world by storm, and became a household property overnight, all because of events beyond Nintendo's control. It became a battleground at some point to where Nintendo had to bluntly and aggressively defend their Animal Crossing IP from being sucked into partisan politics and from having other corporations violating their IP( I think the current sitting US president still has an NH island? Not too sure). For 2020-2021, nearly every brand, product, and celebrity had an NH island promoting their merchandise or website in direct violation of Nintendo's TOA.

This game got banned in a few countries because some governments feared they wouldn't be able to monitor their citizens through it. One of the game's directors had to delete her social media accounts because of the overwhelming harassment she kept getting over this game, which from my understanding is a first for someone who works directly with Nintendo. And do I even need to mention the joke of an organization that is PETA? New Horizons (in a sense) with no prompting from Nintendo became the world's pseudo-social media site, and Nintendo fought that, hard. And while I understand that all of this happened because of the pandemic, the reality is that finding your child-and family-friendly IP in the middle of a lot of real world havoc is alarming. Fact is, aside from massive profits, this game brought a lot to Nintendo's doorstep, and not all of it was good.

Thankfully Nintendo didn't suffer too much from all that, at least not financially. But these types of events may have Nintendo stepping back to reevaluate the marketing of the series going forward, which from a consumer point of view, may look like they're pulling away support. Internally it may just be a redefinition of some parameters, with Nintendo trying to make sure they always come out on top when it comes to the handling of their IPs.

But who knows? Like I said, this is just my one person speculative analysis, I could be completely wrong. In any case, I'm just looking forward to the next game and hoping it comes sooner than later. (y)
 
Great take! I definitely agree that they are taking a step back and reevaluating. It's a shame how many people got too upset over this game to the point of attacking the developers. I'm super excited to see how they approach the next game in the series, if they even decide to give the "fans" another game after how they all behaved during 2020/21 (and continue to treat this game). I can't imagine being the lead developer and wanting to return to the series after people were so nasty to her 😢
 
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I don't know why I was quoted again after I already said I'm going to stop posting, but I'm going to post again just to clear a few things and add to the topic.

My last posts in this thread were with the notion that I really did enjoy Animal Crossing: New Horizons for what it was. It wasn't the best game in the series imo, but it wasn't the worst, either. I don't agree with people attacking the developers, much like I didn't agree with it when people attacked GameFreak because of dexit in Pokemon. I did put in more than several hundred hours for New Horizons, which, while it wasn't as much as previous Animal Crossing games for myself, is still a considerable amount.

The theory of them sunsetting the series does sound plausible. The series has already been running a long time and has outlived other Nintendo IPs that have since been laid to rest. We will have to wait for at least another couple years before finding out for sure, but if they do come out with another game, I am looking forward to it.
 
I'm not expecting any AC information in the Direct tbh. If anything, I'd be more surprised than disappointed if any AC information shows up than if it didn't.

And this is just my own speculative analysis: Mario Kart 8 is still getting updates, until the end of this year, while AC the second most popular game on the Switch had its last major update a year ago? One would think that with Nintendo they'd be promoting the mess out of the game that is the currently most popular game in Japan of all time, but...no. Even BotW is still getting a lot of love from Nintendo, and while I understand that it has a sequel coming out soon, the initial game came out in 2017. So why does it feel like Nintendo is distancing from Animal Crossing New Horizons, even though the game should still pretty hot with an active user base?

It seems like Nintendo is trying to take a step back and reevaluate how they handle the Animal Crossing IP and how the consumer base relates and interacts with it. If this is true, it's pretty understandable why it seems like they're sunsetting this game so early compared to others. I mean, given everything that took place over the last two years involving their Animal Crossing property, if this is what they're doing, it makes sense to me. This game struck lighting in a bottle, took the entire world by storm, and became a household property overnight, all because of events beyond Nintendo's control. It became a battleground at some point to where Nintendo had to bluntly and aggressively defend their Animal Crossing IP from being sucked into partisan politics and from having other corporations violating their IP( I think the current sitting US president still has an NH island? Not too sure). For 2020-2021, nearly every brand, product, and celebrity had an NH island promoting their merchandise or website in direct violation of Nintendo's TOA.

This game got banned in a few countries because some governments feared they wouldn't be able to monitor their citizens through it. One of the game's directors had to delete her social media accounts because of the overwhelming harassment she kept getting over this game, which from my understanding is a first for someone who works directly with Nintendo. And do I even need to mention the joke of an organization that is PETA? New Horizons (in a sense) with no prompting from Nintendo became the world's pseudo-social media site, and Nintendo fought that, hard. And while I understand that all of this happened because of the pandemic, the reality is that finding your child-and family-friendly IP in the middle of a lot of real world havoc is alarming. Fact is, aside from massive profits, this game brought a lot to Nintendo's doorstep, and not all of it was good.

Thankfully Nintendo didn't suffer too much from all that, at least not financially. But these types of events may have Nintendo stepping back to reevaluate the marketing of the series going forward, which from a consumer point of view, may look like they're pulling away support. Internally it may just be a redefinition of some parameters, with Nintendo trying to make sure they always come out on top when it comes to the handling of their IPs.

But who knows? Like I said, this is just my one person speculative analysis, I could be completely wrong. In any case, I'm just looking forward to the next game and hoping it comes sooner than later. (y)
You make a really great point about Mario Kart. Perhaps they're working on a new AC game to pump out to increase profits rather than update an existing game. After all, why did they ditch this game when they continued to provide a free update to New Leaf many years later?
 
As long as the game is capable to setting sales records, and bringing in millions of dollars, I do not see Nintendo retiring Animal Crossing for a long time. This is the type of game that would do well with the current formula where they release a mainline AC game with every new system they create. And as it was said above, is Splatoons really even needed? I saw a twitter post shared here yesterday that showed Japan's top selling games. Splatoons 2 and 3 have not even outsold Wild World, and the pandemic has nothing to do with Wild World sales. People LOVE Animal Crossing.
 
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