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[chibby]

idk tbh i don't think it's a huge deal. i mean, yeah, not all minors can form an opinion themselves and understand that drugs/alcohol have risks and it would be ignorant to assume such. but at the same time, we're not their parents and should not be blamed for what they choose to do.

 

[EtchaSketch]

Could these threads influence somebody to try drugs because they see other people with a common interest claiming its "fun" and they enjoy it?

No, it's not like anybody's selling them for TBT. They're too expensive anyway, it's much easier to get the hard stuff like coffee and sugar. But seriously though, if your teenager is capable of buying that stuff, they're mature enough to be responsible users. Let them make their own decisions, your personal morality shouldn't dictate the behaviour of others. The important part is that they're safe and educated about it.

Could this cause a kid to get in trouble if their parents saw these posts on their computer?

Only if they're stuck up and controlling. And honestly that's worse parenting than letting your children make their own mistakes and learn.

Is there a line between right and wrong on this topic? Example: "I love to veg out on some heroin when I play ACNH" or "I usually hit my bong and just play New Horizons for a few hours"

Clearly, you've already drawn it. It's hard drugs vs soft drugs. Weed should be less offensive to you than alcohol because it is. Not only is weed not physically addictive, it also helps people with a lot of different health issues. Also it's ridiculous that you chose heroin to represent the hard drug. You will definitely not be playing video games or posting online while high, you seem to avoid alcohol and nicotine in this discussion too.

Is it possible that discussions like this are more appropriate for discord or other social platforms?

This is a forum that doesn't allow children, neither do similiar social platforms. This is a forum that allows general discussion, so anything that's reasonable is appropriate. You can't just pretend like the topic is amoral in every possible way, you shouldn't take things out of context either.



You clearly know what the forum rules meant by this paragraph, just as much as you know the difference between weed and heroin. Don't just pretend that the threads talking about weed are comparable to the possibility of discussing heroin and cocaine, Nobody is doing that on here because that's completely inappropiate. Any substance can kill you, if you want to be offended sugar is much more glorified on here.

SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK yeehaw

 

[ForgottenT]

Yeah I must have missed the memo where all internet citizens are now required by law to step in as step parents to all stray kids in case they should somehow acquire an email address, and leave the boundaries of the firewalls that their parents neglected to setup.

 

[Romaki]

Youre missing the point.
Its not about being against drugs, its about being against the act of glorifying drugs.

Nobody is glorifying a drug by speaking truthfully about it. You talk about lethal cases, but that's not exactly the whole story. You don't stop glorification through villainization, it's more important to be educated than shielded.

Weed: Can it kill you?
Medically reviewed by Lindsay Slowiczek, PharmD on November 26, 2019 — Written by Jon Johnson

[...]

A 2014 study in Forensic Science International reported two cases of sudden death that doctors linked to health complications possibly worsened by marijuana use. The report indicated that before these deaths, the researchers were not aware of any other deaths related to marijuana use alone.

It is important to note that only after excluding all other causes of death did the report assume the young men experienced fatal cardiovascular events brought on by cannabis. The report also concludes that doctors cannot rule out the possibility that pre-existing cardiovascular factors played a role in the deaths.

In 2018, a teenager died of dehydration due to cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome (CHS). CHS is a condition that can occur in regular cannabis smokers and causes nausea, vomiting, and abdominal pain. You can read their story here.

Despite these incidents, compared to the deaths caused by other drugs, such as alcohol and tobacco, many people consider marijuana to be relatively safe.

 

[ForgottenT]

Also this thread just reminded me of an old Adam Ruins everything, they have sources for everything, so you can fact check it yourself.

 

[idiotdoomspiral]

the discussion so far doesnt seem that crazy....am i missing something lol.........
im looking at this as if self-harm can also mean self-destructive behaviour (which it may not do in the rules)
theres no definitive answer on that because it depends on the person and their experiences. weed is such a grey area but i think all discussions of something like cigarettes, weed and alcohol should be allowed unless they are explicitly glorifying it or promoting it to others. theres a difference between "i smoke weed and i like it" and "i smoke weed and everyone else should too" its very unlikely that someone will read that and think wtf i need to smoke now but its still a bad mentality. also worth mentioning that ive never seen anyone do that its just hypothetically what i think is wrong. everyone ive seen who has discussed weed so far has been reasonable

+ i know weed is usually much less self-destructive than the other substances i mentioned but it still can be devastating for a group of people mentally which shouldnt be ignored

 

[Alienfish]

Honestly, add sugar and white flour there too bc it will def kill you from various things..


heroin and heavier drugs are another thing, yeah.

 

[Oblivia]

To get a bit personal here, as someone who was raised around hard drugs and witnessed their effects beginning from early childhood, to compare marijuana to drugs like heroin or cocaine is a bit outlandish. While not a regular user myself, I know many people who use pot on a daily basis and are still able to maintain jobs, relationships, parent their children, and generally live productive lives despite their usage. Heroin is… an entirely different demon.

Speaking as someone who cares deeply about the safety of the forum and its members, I see very little risk in someone mentioning casual marijuana usage in the context of their gaming experience. The widespread legalization of pot is an inevitability at this point, and while we do strive to maintain a family-friendly environment here, I don't see the mere mention of marijuana usage to be outside of this, and certainly not in the same vein as pornography or self-harm as I’ve seen mentioned. Of course we'd step in if someone posted a "hey kids, want to try some drugs?"-esque thread, but I don't think I need to point out that there's a large difference between that and the thread that prompted this discussion in the first place.

While we welcome all members 13 years of age or older, TBT is far from a "kid's forum" as it's been called. Yes, Animal Crossing is an E-rated game, but that doesn’t mean we're going to (nor should!) moderate anything that you wouldn’t see in the game itself. I’d also like to point out that users over the age of 18 far outnumber our younger (17 and under) users, by over 40x. This isn’t to say that I feel we should open the floodgates and have zero rules regarding prohibited content, but I believe the rules we have in place now are a happy medium and see no reason to outlaw any and all mention of marijuana.

Could these threads influence somebody to try drugs because they see other people with a common interest claiming its "fun" and they enjoy it?

No, it's not like anybody's selling them for TBT. They're too expensive anyway, it's much easier to get the hard stuff like coffee and sugar. But seriously though, if your teenager is capable of buying that stuff, they're mature enough to be responsible users. Let them make their own decisions, your personal morality shouldn't dictate the behaviour of others. The important part is that they're safe and educated about it.

Could this cause a kid to get in trouble if their parents saw these posts on their computer?

Only if they're stuck up and controlling. And honestly that's worse parenting than letting your children make their own mistakes and learn.

Is there a line between right and wrong on this topic? Example: "I love to veg out on some heroin when I play ACNH" or "I usually hit my bong and just play New Horizons for a few hours"

Clearly, you've already drawn it. It's hard drugs vs soft drugs. Weed should be less offensive to you than alcohol because it is. Not only is weed not physically addictive, it also helps people with a lot of different health issues. Also it's ridiculous that you chose heroin to represent the hard drug. You will definitely not be playing video games or posting online while high, you seem to avoid alcohol and nicotine in this discussion too.

Is it possible that discussions like this are more appropriate for discord or other social platforms?

This is a forum that doesn't allow children, neither do similiar social platforms. This is a forum that allows general discussion, so anything that's reasonable is appropriate. You can't just pretend like the topic is amoral in every possible way, you shouldn't take things out of context either.



You clearly know what the forum rules meant by this paragraph, just as much as you know the difference between weed and heroin. Don't just pretend that the threads talking about weed are comparable to the possibility of discussing heroin and cocaine, Nobody is doing that on here because that's completely inappropiate. Any substance can kill you, if you want to be offended sugar is much more glorified on here.

This is a perfect response. I applaud you.

 

[xsopants]

we stan common sense

 

[EtchaSketch]

To get a bit personal here, as someone who was raised around hard drugs and witnessed their effects beginning from early childhood, to compare marijuana to drugs like heroin or cocaine is a bit outlandish. While not a regular user myself, I know many people who use pot on a daily basis and are still able to maintain jobs, relationships, parent their children, and generally live productive lives despite their usage. Heroin is… an entirely different demon.

Speaking as someone who cares deeply about the safety of the forum and its members, I see very little risk in someone mentioning casual marijuana usage in the context of their gaming experience. The widespread legalization of pot is an inevitability at this point, and while we do strive to maintain a family-friendly environment here, I don't see the mere mention of marijuana usage to be outside of this, and certainly not in the same vein as pornography or self-harm as I’ve seen mentioned. Of course we'd step in if someone posted a "hey kids, want to try some drugs?"-esque thread, but I don't think I need to point out that there's a large difference between that and the thread that prompted this discussion in the first place.

While we welcome all members 13 years of age or older, TBT is far from a "kid's forum" as it's been called. Yes, Animal Crossing is an E-rated game, but that doesn’t mean we're going to (nor should!) moderate anything that you wouldn’t see in the game itself. I’d also like to point out that users over the age of 18 far outnumber our younger (17 and under) users, by over 40x. This isn’t to say that I feel we should open the floodgates and have zero rules regarding prohibited content, but I believe the rules we have in place now are a happy medium and see no reason to outlaw any and all mention of marijuana.



This is a perfect response. I applaud you.

absolute poetry

 

[Antonio]

Could these threads influence somebody to try drugs because they see other people with a common interest claiming its "fun" and they enjoy it?

No, it's not like anybody's selling them for TBT. They're too expensive anyway, it's much easier to get the hard stuff like coffee and sugar. But seriously though, if your teenager is capable of buying that stuff, they're mature enough to be responsible users. Let them make their own decisions, your personal morality shouldn't dictate the behaviour of others. The important part is that they're safe and educated about it.

Could this cause a kid to get in trouble if their parents saw these posts on their computer?

Only if they're stuck up and controlling. And honestly that's worse parenting than letting your children make their own mistakes and learn.

Is there a line between right and wrong on this topic? Example: "I love to veg out on some heroin when I play ACNH" or "I usually hit my bong and just play New Horizons for a few hours"

Clearly, you've already drawn it. It's hard drugs vs soft drugs. Weed should be less offensive to you than alcohol because it is. Not only is weed not physically addictive, it also helps people with a lot of different health issues. Also it's ridiculous that you chose heroin to represent the hard drug. You will definitely not be playing video games or posting online while high, you seem to avoid alcohol and nicotine in this discussion too.

Is it possible that discussions like this are more appropriate for discord or other social platforms?

This is a forum that doesn't allow children, neither do similiar social platforms. This is a forum that allows general discussion, so anything that's reasonable is appropriate. You can't just pretend like the topic is amoral in every possible way, you shouldn't take things out of context either.



You clearly know what the forum rules meant by this paragraph, just as much as you know the difference between weed and heroin. Don't just pretend that the threads talking about weed are comparable to the possibility of discussing heroin and cocaine, Nobody is doing that on here because that's completely inappropiate. Any substance can kill you, if you want to be offended sugar is much more glorified on here.

I LOVE THIS, SO WELL WRITTEN.

I NEED UR SKILLS ON MAKING CASES, YOU ARE SOOO GOOD. <3

 

[Stil]

Fine. You all win.

@Oblivia
Really? Have you never seen a fully functioning heroin addict? My best friend has been one for 7 years, held jobs, has relationships. Yet Ive seen people that only smoke pot absolutely wreck their lives. Its not so black and white.

Its cool. You all do you. No hard feelings.
I just simply wanted to bring something up that I though wasn't really appropriate but all that happened was me getting crapped on by the community.

I would have said the same thing as all of you if I saw this post 10 years ago. I guess I'm getting too old for this place

 

[slzzpz]

tacos, anyone?

 

[Dinosaurz]

Fine. You all win.

@Oblivia
Really? Have you never seen a fully functioning heroin addict? My best friend has been one for 7 years, held jobs, has relationships. Yet Ive seen people that only smoke pot absolutely wreck their lives. Its not so black and white.

Its cool. You all do you. No hard feelings.
I just simply wanted to bring something up that I though wasn't really appropriate but all that happened was me getting crapped on by the community.

I would have said the same thing as all of you if I saw this post 10 years ago. I guess I'm getting too old for this place

People are responsible for their own actions I feel.
If someone’s addicted to heroin that’s on them, some people mentioning legal drug use is fine.

nobody hating you for having an opinion, their just putting their own options back. Which is what a discussion is

 

[Antonio]

You aren't being crapped on, you are a wonderful person who was concerned about the community. However, there really isn't a need to be concerned as people have stated.

 

[seliph]

heroin has much worse affects and the addiction aspect between the two are like apples and oranges, i disagree with the subject being totally appropriate too but some of the comparisons you're making are a bit out there.

also... you're only 26 you aren't old lol

 

[ForgottenT]

Fine. You all win.

@Oblivia
Really? Have you never seen a fully functioning heroin addict? My best friend has been one for 7 years, held jobs, has relationships. Yet Ive seen people that only smoke pot absolutely wreck their lives. Its not so black and white.

Its cool. You all do you. No hard feelings.
I just simply wanted to bring something up that I though wasn't really appropriate but all that happened was me getting crapped on by the community.

I would have said the same thing as all of you if I saw this post 10 years ago. I guess I'm getting too old for this place

Depends on if it was just weed, that's why legalization is important, people are lacing all kinds of awful crap in it, and selling it as "weed" or any other drugs for that matter, that's one of the biggest points of legalization, to keep it clean, so that people don't wreck their lives with what should have been harmless.

And I doubt anyone actually hates you or anything, we just don't want to see the forum we love being rendered down to "kids forum" When the amount of kids on here is basically none compared to the amount of adults, and it's not really surprising, I can't imagine many kids being interested in forums in the first place, but it also depends on what you're calling kids, in my opinion it's 12 and younger, 13 and you're a teen.

 

[Oblivia]

Fine. You all win.

@Oblivia
Really? Have you never seen a fully functioning heroin addict? My best friend has been one for 7 years, held jobs, has relationships. Yet Ive seen people that only smoke pot absolutely wreck their lives. Its not so black and white.

Its cool. You all do you. No hard feelings.
I just simply wanted to bring something up that I though wasn't really appropriate but all that happened was me getting crapped on by the community.

I would have said the same thing as all of you if I saw this post 10 years ago. I guess I'm getting too old for this place

I don't think age has much to do with it. I'm in my 30's and this is still my stance on things, as get-off-my-lawn as I can be in other regards.

I'm so sorry to hear about your friend's struggles, but yes, I definitely have my own experiences that I'll pull from when forming and stating my opinions. As @Romaki so beautifully put it, it really boils down to hard drugs vs. soft drugs, and we're talking about a widely-legalized substance that essentially all users have heard of by the time they're of age to join this forum, unless of course they have helicopter parents that want to shelter them from every little thing out there in the world. In this instance, I highly doubt they'd approve unsupervised internet usage in the first place.

No one is crapping on you and that certainly wasn't my intention. I hope we can agree to disagree and you can at least respect my stance on the matter, even if it's not entirely in line with your own personal feelings.

 

[Gunner]

I don't see what's so bad about weed? They help me make medicine for when I get stung?

(I'm sorry lol)

 

[Dinosaurz]

i was 14 when I joined and I live in a country where weed is illegal and I deffo wouldn’t of tried it because I saw it mentioned here.
I really don’t think it is that much of an issue it’s understandable drugs exist and people do them. You can’t hide from everything