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So, from time to time, I notice people holding auctions for villagers in the Villager Trading Plaza...and then they extend the auction for whatever reason...

Do you think extending an auction for any reason is acceptable? What would be an acceptable reason?
It ticks me off so much when people extend an auction under the guise of being kind by giving people a chance to win the auction, but I really think that just translates to trying to make as much money as possible, and being wishy-washy about an end time that should, in my opinion, be definite.

I'd love to hear other people's opinions about this issue.
(I'm also unsure as to which forum this should go in.)
 
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This happened to me just yesterday, actually. I hate when people do that. People suck. XD
 
I think it's greedy of that person to do that, but we shouldn't berate them for doing so-it is their choice. .-.
 
If they're doing it just to get higher bids, then I don't like it. However, if something comes up and they have to postpone the auction for a couple more hours, then it should be okay.
 
But don't you think people should be more careful with their planning? I understand that real-life situations come up but instead of extending the auction, why couldn't someone just close the auction at the intended time and hold the item for the winner? I don't see any legitimate reason to prolong it and accept more bids other than making as much money as they can.

I'm wondering what a mod's input on this would be. >.<

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This happened to me just yesterday, actually. I hate when people do that.

Yeah, I saw that. That's what got me started. Then I saw this happen again earlier today with a Julian auction. ugh.
 
It's their auction, they can do what they want. That's how I see it
 
It's their auction, they can do what they want. That's how I see it

I was wondering if there were any rules about this issue, specifically, or if it was frowned upon by mods. Since you have to include an end time in your first post, I wasn't sure about how strictly you have to abide by your own guidelines. It just comes across as indecisive/shady/etc.
 
There aren't any official rules to auctions iirc
 
It is a chance you take when you bid in an auction. A lot of players have no moral scruples about either withdrawing or extending their auction basically because it hasn't reached the amount they hoped for. As an auctioneer doesn't need to be present at the closing time there can be no other reasonable explanation. You either live with it or remember not to bid on that player's auctions in the future.
 
If the seller is going to delay the time then it is no longer an auction and should be listed under the selling thread. Even with an emergency, all the seller has to do is look at the posted time and bid to see the winner. A villager in boxes can always be tted backwards along the same day so that they move at a more convenient time. I have also seen posts listed under the giveaway thread that amounted to the poster asking for free items. Surely that is not the right heading . I actually am guilty of the opposite.. I start an auction, no one bids and I abruptly turn it into a giveaway to make the time more convenient to me . lol. I may not be in the best position to criticize others.
 
Yeah, I've seen that happen too. Just the other day I won Marshal at an auction for 10m (no he wasn't original). The auctioneer decided to announce me as the winner of the auction 6 minutes before time was up(I guess she got tired of waiting). I got happy and then 1minute later someone upped my bid by 500k. She then proceeded to say she now didn't know what to do and was confused about who should get Marshal, and if she should extend the time(since now she saw there were more lurkers waiting til the last minute). The way I see it the situation wasn't confusing at all. When you announce someone has won, then that person has won. Anyone that posts after that doesn't matter. You can't go back on your post just because someone else has offered you more money. That makes the thread no longer an auction, but a selling thread instead. I gave her my two cents on it, and she decided to be fair and give me Marshal.
Now as far as extending goes, it depends on the scenario. If the person is extending because something happened and they won't be around for a while, then sure that's understandable. If the person is extending because there is a bidding war going on, then that's also acceptable. Now if the person decides to extend the time just because their desired price wasn't reached, then that's ****ed up and shouldn't be tolerated. The way I see it is, if you're going to be a d-bag and change the end time for your own personal gain, then I also reserve the right to take my bid back.
 
If the player who is conducting the auction isn't going to be around at the end, it is still not a valid reason to extend that auction. They should just include a statement to the effect that the winner would be the final bid prior to finish time, they would not be able to contact said winner immediately the auction was over but would do so as soon as they were able to in order to effect payment and transfer of villager.
 
I hold auctions pretty often and i don't think I ever extended it. (i have ended early though) The whole point of an auction is to sell the villager at whatever price that is offered whether the winning bid is 1mil or 10mil at the end time. It's unfortunate that some people do this just to get more money. I agree what other people say, even if the seller isnt available at the end time, it shouldnt be a reason to extend the auction. They can always contact the winner afterwards for a time where they both are available to do the trade.

Too bad there's really no rules against this. I've read the rules in the villager plaza a couple times in the past before and there isn't anything regarding this.
 
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So, from time to time, I notice people holding auctions for villagers in the Villager Trading Plaza...and then they extend the auction for whatever reason...

Do you think extending an auction for any reason is acceptable? What would be an acceptable reason?
It ticks me off so much when people extend an auction under the guise of being kind by giving people a chance to win the auction, but I really think that just translates to trying to make as much [money] as possible, and being wishy-washy about an end time that should, in my opinion, be definite.

I'd love to hear other people's opinions about this issue.
(I'm also unsure as to which forum this should go in.)


Disclosure: Numerous of my Dreamies were won by me in auctions. Applicable: Julian and Stitches (now in my original town of Applewin); Fauna, Marshal, Erik, and Tia (now in Progress). But I can, and will, answer you without bias. I try to encourage perspective.


It's not "money." It's bells. But I know you know this. That everyone knows this. And, yes, the motivation for generating bells is not limited to one reason. That it can be for perceived profit. That it can be for perceived need. That it can be for a combination of those reasons. (Or maybe something else separately or included. And, yes, I know there are people who act like bells are money. But, well, what can you say about that?)

I haven't been in the position of auctioning a popular villager. (For those I won in auctions, I intend to keep and experience having them in my towns.) The ones I've presented are on the low end of the totem poll of villager popularity ranks. For example: I put up Clyde just last week. The thread had more than 25 views; but it received no responses. And that's apparently because no one want[s/ed] Clyde. In late-December, I put up Shari. That was before Shari became more wanted by some members of The Bell Tree Forums; so I was ahead of time.

I don't know what solution to give that would be satisfactory. I don't doubt you on the accuracy of what you described. On the other hand, I've seen auctions where an auctioneer states that a villager must go as immediately as possible. So, Villager Trading Plaza is very broad. And I don't know what standard could be applied and enforced. (I don't even follow with certainty what people are talking about when they require "Dreamy proof"; I have mine listed in my signature and, if that's not good enough, well I'm not an artist will be drawing anything to supposedly legitimize the proof of my expressed Dreamy[ies].) And that's because, when you admit it to yourself, the ones who do the auctioning could otherwise just void a popular villager and cycle such a villager back into their game. So, to begin with, the concept of presenting a villager for another forum member to adopt (through whatever terms) is considerate.
 
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It's not "money." It's bells. But I know you know this. That everyone knows this.

Not sure where you were going with this. Bells are the in-game currency aka money. Sounds like semantics. Just because it's not real-world money doesn't mean people can't be greedy with it.

That being said, when an auctioneer puts a specific end time on their auction, there are people that purposefully wait until the last possible minute to bid. (anyone who has ever bid on ebay will have experienced this.) To change the end time at the last minute bc of that collapses the system, and makes it unfair. Sometimes waiting until the end of an auction helps to keep the price down. You wait to be the last bidder only to have the rug pulled out from under you.

I know there are not really any rules on auctioning, and an auctioneer can effectively do whatever they want, but that doesn't make it right.
 
I've seen this happen, and it does bother me. It's changing the rules for an adoption after people already have an understanding of it. Once I entered a giveaway for a dreamie of mine, I did exactly as the rules said. And the rules said that the first person to do it would win. I was the first, but a few minutes later, the rules were changed so that it became a raffle and "more people would have a chance to win" and of course, I lost. I thought it was wrong, but whatever, I guess people have different morals and etiquette.
 
I think it's ridiculous.
In any game forum I have ever been on, there has always been a rule about changing the end time AND about "well if I don't get a high enough offer I'll cancel the auction" ((which I saw yesterday!!))
TBT NEEDS this rule!

To be "fair" in any auction I have ever held in a forum I did have a "sniping" rule. Basically you add 5mins to the end of the last bid to prevent someone from just coming in and snipping the auction.
Example ::
Auction end time is 12pm, last bid 11:58am new end time 12:03pm
... no new bid before 12:03 the user wins.
... if new bid at 12:02 then end time will be 12:07
And so on...
It extends the auction a little bit to prevent sniping TO BE FAIR TO THE BIDDERS who have slow internet, but it is ONLY 5mins, so it's not like it's going to get me a lot more money or anything unlike people who are truly extending their auction. >.>


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If the seller is going to delay the time then it is no longer an auction and should be listed under the selling thread. Even with an emergency, all the seller has to do is look at the posted time and bid to see the winner. A villager in boxes can always be tted backwards along the same day so that they move at a more convenient time. I have also seen posts listed under the giveaway thread that amounted to the poster asking for free items. Surely that is not the right heading . I actually am guilty of the opposite.. I start an auction, no one bids and I abruptly turn it into a giveaway to make the time more convenient to me . lol. I may not be in the best position to criticize others.
This. This right here.
It's not an auction anymore. It is someone selling their villager and accepting offers.
 
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I think it's ridiculous.
In any game forum I have ever been on, there has always been a rule about changing the end time AND about "well if I don't get a high enough offer I'll cancel the auction" ((which I saw yesterday!!))
TBT NEEDS this rule!
omg yes, I wish people would just make the starting bid the minimum amount of Bells they'd accept lol
sure, maybe nobody would want to bid if the starting price is too high but there's no point in getting people's hopes up just to crush them like that


To be "fair" in any auction I have ever held in a forum I did have a "sniping" rule. Basically you add 5mins to the end of the last bid to prevent someone from just coming in and snipping the auction.
Example ::
Auction end time is 12pm, last bid 11:58am new end time 12:03pm
... no new bid before 12:03 the user wins.
... if new bid at 12:02 then end time will be 12:07
And so on...
It extends the auction a little bit to prevent sniping TO BE FAIR TO THE BIDDERS who have slow internet, but it is ONLY 5mins, so it's not like it's going to get me a lot more money or anything unlike people who are truly extending their auction. >.>
ohh yeah, I remember some other websites for other games having an option like this! it was cool, but a little frustrating. xD I never took this into consideration. o.o pretty good point
 
If you checked the new bell tree direct, they made an auction rule!
I was very happy to see that... and happy to see that they seem to encourage you to give a negative wifi rating if the seller doesn't follow through with it. -happy-
 
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