Staff, sages, and everyone else

[Sporge27]

Ok look. The staff is considering removing the sage rank. Why? because we can't really get new sages less other members feel excluded.

What would it be replaced with? something that would have monthly elections, that way everyone has a shot. you couldn't be on it consecutive months or something to keep mixing it up. There would also be something special for those helping with the site. This is all rough draft though we probably aren't close to applying it.


I also wanted to say that this is in response to the posts JJ made, as SOMEONE keeps moving the thread to an unviewable area... I honestly don't see why, an outside opinion wouldn't be that bad and no flaming had started from it which becasue of these moves I now feel is inevitable.

I ask this not moved or deleted, if it is you got a problem in the staff as well as with the sages.

Toodles!

 

[UltraByte]

Ok look. The staff is considering removing the sage rank. Why? because we can't really get new sages less other members feel excluded.

That's stupid that people feel excluded. It's like saying Merry Christmas in America, people get all "OMG SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS YOU ******". It's really dumb.

 

[Sporge27]

Ok look. The staff is considering removing the sage rank. Why? because we can't really get new sages less other members feel excluded.

That's stupid that people feel excluded. It's like saying Merry Christmas in America, people get all "OMG SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS YOU ******". It's really dumb.

Look the point is that on a small forum it is hard to keep a group like that constantly going. No one has said they felt excluded, but when was the last time we added a sage? For that matter, what have sages done that normal members haven't?

Part of the problem is having a more fluid program would keep people interested more because there is something to earn.

Honestly would this change affect people that much?

 

[AndyB]

I've never felt excluded by this.
I feel better knowing someone who knows what they're doing, most of the time, is in higher rank than me, so I'd feel safe so to speak.
EDIT: It wouldn't hardly at all.

 

[UltraByte]

Ok look. The staff is considering removing the sage rank. Why? because we can't really get new sages less other members feel excluded.

That's stupid that people feel excluded. It's like saying Merry Christmas in America, people get all "OMG SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS YOU ******". It's really dumb.

Look the point is that on a small forum it is hard to keep a group like that constantly going. No one has said they felt excluded, but when was the last time we added a sage? For that matter, what have sages done that normal members haven't?

For your information, a NORMAL MEMBER is trying to keep the Podcast alive.

 

[Justin]

Ok look. The staff is considering removing the sage rank. Why? because we can't really get new sages less other members feel excluded.

That's stupid that people feel excluded. It's like saying Merry Christmas in America, people get all "OMG SAY HAPPY HOLIDAYS YOU ******". It's really dumb.

Look the point is that on a small forum it is hard to keep a group like that constantly going. No one has said they felt excluded, but when was the last time we added a sage? For that matter, what have sages done that normal members haven't?

For your information, a NORMAL MEMBER is trying to keep the Podcast alive.

Indeed.

Seconded.

 

[Sporge27]

I've never felt excluded by this.
I feel better knowing someone who knows what they're doing, most of the time, is in higher rank than me, so I'd feel safe so to speak.

EXACTLY!

being a sage really hasn't been any different than someone with a high post count.

knda @ UB
This is why we would have special rank thing for those working on the site/podcast included instead of sages. some elected thing would be great for normal members to get recognition for doing more than others on the forum, like the sage program was, but the difference is it isn't permanent, so if you drift off the forum for the most part, hey you can still come back and chat, but you aren't the special rank unless you stick around.

 

[UltraByte]

knda @ UB
This is why we would have special rank thing for those working on the site/podcast included instead of sages. some elected thing would be great for normal members to get recognition for doing more than others on the forum, like the sage program was, but the difference is it isn't permanent, so if you drift off the forum for the most part, hey you can still come back and chat, but you aren't the special rank unless you stick around.

So now we need a rank to work on the podcast? What a load of crap.

 

[DarthGohan1]

Here's my personal view on what the Sage program was meant to be and what it has become:

MEANT TO BE:
-Reward for long-term good members

WHAT IT BECAME:
-Signal to certain members that they could act inappropriately and irresponsibly
-Just not enough - instead of being glad of being a Sage, certain Sages continuously demanded more


That's the basics... as you see, it just went down the wrong road.

 

[AndyB]

Here's my personal view on what the Sage program was meant to be and what it has become:

MEANT TO BE:
-Reward for long-term good members

WHAT IT BECAME:
-Signal to certain members that they could act inappropriately and irresponsibly
-Just not enough - instead of being glad of being a Sage, certain Sages continuously demanded more


That's the basics... as you see, it just went down the wrong road.

I guess those people believed they had huge powers, to match their egos, they get away with anything.

 

[Propaganda Man]

The Sages rank should stay, some sages should go. Storm has said that he doesn't add more sages because there are too many. Now you are saying we are going to take away the rank because we aren't adding enough?

WHAT IT BECAME:
-Signal to certain members that they could act inappropriately and irresponsibly
-Just not enough - instead of being glad of being a Sage, certain Sages continuously demanded more

I could say the same for certain staff members, no? Maybe the staff should do a better job at picking sages.

 

[Propaganda Man]

I've never felt excluded by this.
I feel better knowing someone who knows what they're doing, most of the time, is in higher rank than me, so I'd feel safe so to speak.

EXACTLY!

being a sage really hasn't been any different than someone with a high post count.

LIE!

 

[UltraByte]

I've never felt excluded by this.
I feel better knowing someone who knows what they're doing, most of the time, is in higher rank than me, so I'd feel safe so to speak.

EXACTLY!

being a sage really hasn't been any different than someone with a high post count.

LIE!

qft

 

[Furry Sparks]

WHAT IT BECAME:
-Signal to certain members that they could act inappropriately and irresponsibly
-Just not enough - instead of being glad of being a Sage, certain Sages continuously demanded more

Thats a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ed up way to put it.

It never was the first, at least for me, and I think none of the other sages.
For the second, that was only a few times, and if its a reward... shouldn't we get something?

 

[Jeremy]

WHAT IT BECAME:
-Signal to certain members that they could act inappropriately and irresponsibly
-Just not enough - instead of being glad of being a Sage, certain Sages continuously demanded more

Thats a *CEN-3.0-SORD*ed up way to put it.

It never was the first, at least for me, and I think none of the other sages.
For the second, that was only a few times, and if its a reward... shouldn't we get something?

This is opinion we're talking about. What's inappropriate for the staff might not be for you.

For example, one might say that using a swear, even though it's censored, is inappropriate.

 

[Furry Sparks]

For example, one might say that using a swear, even though it's censored, is inappropriate.

You can just say that you don't want me to swear, you don't have to say it like that.

 

[Jeremy]

For example, one might say that using a swear, even though it's censored, is inappropriate.

You can just say that you don't want me to swear, you don't have to say it like that.

I was just using it as an example.

 

[Furry Sparks]

For example, one might say that using a swear, even though it's censored, is inappropriate.

You can just say that you don't want me to swear, you don't have to say it like that.

I was just using it as an example.

Sure, whatever.


Sages don't get anything, yet staff says its a reward and we should be happy to have it... Yet we get pestered to work on things in the sage board by staff, like the item guide and other things like that. The only thing we really get is a board, of which is half made up of arguments.

 

[Tennis=Life]

Yeah, some Sages got egos. Whoo, I'm proud to say I was the only Sage at one point who believed we were fine the way we were, but the rest of em pushed for more powers. I'm not sure if I care really that much if the Sages are gone. It'll be weird having the color of my rank (a darker non bolded green).

 

[Furry Sparks]

Yeah, some Sages got egos. Whoo, I'm proud to say I was the only Sage at one point who believed we were fine the way we were, but the rest of em pushed for more powers.

Is that a contradiction I see?

And I wasn't pushing for more powers specifically, I was more complaining that storm didn't even trust us enough to be able to delete our own posts. (even though my posts didn't look like that)