Staff, sages, and everyone else
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Tennis=Life
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Oh, but you were still with the group pushing for "WE NEED POWER" "MORE POWER"Justin125 said:
Whatever the staff decides to do is okay by me.
Ranks don't matter in my eyes. I don't come here every day aiming to be the next sage or mod or something. I come here to talk to friends and have good conversations. Isn't that what forums are supposed to be about in the first place?
Lets try not to turn this into something it doesn't have to be...arguing will do no good.
Ranks don't matter in my eyes. I don't come here every day aiming to be the next sage or mod or something. I come here to talk to friends and have good conversations. Isn't that what forums are supposed to be about in the first place?
Lets try not to turn this into something it doesn't have to be...arguing will do no good.
So why does everyone think it's so amazing to be a staff member? We're not really getting rewarded, and we do tons of work.ZELDAFREAK104 said:
Exactly.Gengar said:
Furry Sparks
Senior Member
Where did I say ANYTHING about that?DarthGohan1 said:
Woah Woah Woah guys slow down....
Let the semi-peace person talk.
So yes the sage rank is about to go kaput however that doesn't mean it's the end of the world. It can be replaced with other things. Because EVERYONE makes mistakes.
If I had a choice I would make it so that only some sages were gone, however this whole argument when to such an extent that a sage was banned today. Really it is all our faults and you guys shouldn't be involved in our business.
You guys can do what ever you want in reason. We don't have to do it. I mean if you had the correct permissions you could probably throw your own unique project like as TBT Town and Sunlight. Just because you don't have the rank doesn't mean anything.
You guys aren't helping at all by swearing and your just making it worse for the staff. I don't want to be here to see a bunch of my friends banned. Do you? Sages, Staff, Friends, Members, and anyone that this might concern, please just take this as a small step. Even if it a step backwards, you can make a huge leap forward with any kind of step and determination.
/corny speech
Let the semi-peace person talk.
So yes the sage rank is about to go kaput however that doesn't mean it's the end of the world. It can be replaced with other things. Because EVERYONE makes mistakes.
If I had a choice I would make it so that only some sages were gone, however this whole argument when to such an extent that a sage was banned today. Really it is all our faults and you guys shouldn't be involved in our business.
You guys can do what ever you want in reason. We don't have to do it. I mean if you had the correct permissions you could probably throw your own unique project like as TBT Town and Sunlight. Just because you don't have the rank doesn't mean anything.
You guys aren't helping at all by swearing and your just making it worse for the staff. I don't want to be here to see a bunch of my friends banned. Do you? Sages, Staff, Friends, Members, and anyone that this might concern, please just take this as a small step. Even if it a step backwards, you can make a huge leap forward with any kind of step and determination.
/corny speech
look I felt I needed to just get this out here by now. I am sorry this sort of stuff has to happen sometimes, but it happens.
There are just many things wrong with the system set up right now, and let me tell you we mean to fix it. The problem with the sage thing is it is based on something like Nsider. Nsider has thousands of users and a few really stand out. Some come some go, but either way it doesn't matter on a large scale there. Here though what happens to one member affects the whole forum, doesn't it?
So by this point changing the special rank from something designed for a massive forum to something made for a small community should help it work better. But change isn't always easy, the staff just wants a little help to get through this.
Being on the staff isn't all milk and cookies either (as a matter of fact I have yet to see any sort of treat for doing this). As a mod I get to try and solve the problems of this forum. I get to deal with the spammers, I get to try to settle arguments. This is my free time you know.
The staff isn't perfect, I know I am not, but we try. The sage thing might have been a mistake right from the start. It doesn't matter though because we are trying to fix it.
I hope you guys can try to understand we want to try to improve this, please just try and give us some suggestions on how to improve things around here. It is seriously giving me a head ache right now. If you read this far I congratulate you, I don't even want to read through this trash I call typing
There are just many things wrong with the system set up right now, and let me tell you we mean to fix it. The problem with the sage thing is it is based on something like Nsider. Nsider has thousands of users and a few really stand out. Some come some go, but either way it doesn't matter on a large scale there. Here though what happens to one member affects the whole forum, doesn't it?
So by this point changing the special rank from something designed for a massive forum to something made for a small community should help it work better. But change isn't always easy, the staff just wants a little help to get through this.
Being on the staff isn't all milk and cookies either (as a matter of fact I have yet to see any sort of treat for doing this). As a mod I get to try and solve the problems of this forum. I get to deal with the spammers, I get to try to settle arguments. This is my free time you know.
The staff isn't perfect, I know I am not, but we try. The sage thing might have been a mistake right from the start. It doesn't matter though because we are trying to fix it.
I hope you guys can try to understand we want to try to improve this, please just try and give us some suggestions on how to improve things around here. It is seriously giving me a head ache right now. If you read this far I congratulate you, I don't even want to read through this trash I call typing
^^Never read your post much.
Anyways I think it's really upto the Admins and Global Moderators on who should be Sage and who shouldn't. Yes I know that's how it goes and I respect it. I never log on here expecting to become anything above a member with the rank "Red Rock" or whatever the other ranks are here. If staff decide that I have earned the member group "Sage" then fine and thanks. If not I'll just continue to do what I do here. Which is pop up whenever I feel like it and post to whatever I feel like.
Now the member group "Sage" to me is an elite membership to this site. It shows the members here who have been dedicated to the site, helped out and set a good example to everyone else who has came across this site. Now I can't really judge any of the Sages here because I have not been active enough to know each one of their actions.
But really if you are a Sage. Then congrats. Go make an example of yourself to other members here who think they could become a Sage. Make an example of how you got were you are now on TBT.
Anyways that's my mini-rant before bed. Peace! :gyroidgrin:
Anyways I think it's really upto the Admins and Global Moderators on who should be Sage and who shouldn't. Yes I know that's how it goes and I respect it. I never log on here expecting to become anything above a member with the rank "Red Rock" or whatever the other ranks are here. If staff decide that I have earned the member group "Sage" then fine and thanks. If not I'll just continue to do what I do here. Which is pop up whenever I feel like it and post to whatever I feel like.
Now the member group "Sage" to me is an elite membership to this site. It shows the members here who have been dedicated to the site, helped out and set a good example to everyone else who has came across this site. Now I can't really judge any of the Sages here because I have not been active enough to know each one of their actions.
But really if you are a Sage. Then congrats. Go make an example of yourself to other members here who think they could become a Sage. Make an example of how you got were you are now on TBT.
Anyways that's my mini-rant before bed. Peace! :gyroidgrin:
My turn...
I personally don't know much about the sage-staff relations, so I might not know what I'm talking about here...
But, I do know that TBT wasn't meant to cause stress or arguements in any way.
Why did we come here in the first place? Was it really because we wanted to become sages or staff members? Or was it to talk and have good conversations over something we all enjoy?
Think about it, please, does it really matter if one of us is higher "rank" then the other? Not really.
Forums were invented to have conversation. Thats all. I'm sure ranks didn't come along for a while, actually. Theres no reason for anyone to think the sage or staff or anyone else is better than you. Both the sages and the staff have strongly stated that many times.
Think back now, everyone. Do you like TBT better this way? With arguements flying around and such? Or do you prefer when everyone is in deep discussion and laughing and enjoying their time?
We can go back to that time.
These arguements are created because people are fighting for what they believe to be right, correct? Well, what does "being right" really get you? Less friends? More enemies? Already a few people have left because of all this. Being right isn't always the answer.
Whether we like it or not, however, its the Staff's decision. Please, people, if we could just bring ourselves let them go forth with this, the arguements and things will end.
I greatly enjoy TBT. Without it, well, things wouldn't be the same for me. I wish the best for it, and its people.
Gengar
I personally don't know much about the sage-staff relations, so I might not know what I'm talking about here...
But, I do know that TBT wasn't meant to cause stress or arguements in any way.
Why did we come here in the first place? Was it really because we wanted to become sages or staff members? Or was it to talk and have good conversations over something we all enjoy?
Think about it, please, does it really matter if one of us is higher "rank" then the other? Not really.
Forums were invented to have conversation. Thats all. I'm sure ranks didn't come along for a while, actually. Theres no reason for anyone to think the sage or staff or anyone else is better than you. Both the sages and the staff have strongly stated that many times.
Think back now, everyone. Do you like TBT better this way? With arguements flying around and such? Or do you prefer when everyone is in deep discussion and laughing and enjoying their time?
We can go back to that time.
These arguements are created because people are fighting for what they believe to be right, correct? Well, what does "being right" really get you? Less friends? More enemies? Already a few people have left because of all this. Being right isn't always the answer.
Whether we like it or not, however, its the Staff's decision. Please, people, if we could just bring ourselves let them go forth with this, the arguements and things will end.
I greatly enjoy TBT. Without it, well, things wouldn't be the same for me. I wish the best for it, and its people.
Gengar
Gohan, I will take responsibility for that. Espically during 06. That was a mistake I tried to avoid but I screwed that up big time which lead to the whole destruction of the sage rank, months later.DarthGohan1 said:
I'm not that worried however I think I need to point it out that it's my fault... kinda.
Get rid of stages.
Heck, get rid of the entire rank system.
Just make it Member1 (can edit psots), Member2(can start polls) and Member3(can delete post), plus mods and admins.
When I first join TBT, I always thought I would make a good sage.
But, I realized that being a sage didn't matter.
When we had the sage competition, I was so mad when I wasn't picked. The three people that were picked to compete.... One of them is banned, one has disapeared, and one is... well you know (no offense)
Now sure, I'm all up for giving rewards such as titles or virutal medals to people who do something exceptional to help tbt like helping with the site or the podcast, and I'm not against allowing people to win contest ranks, but c'mon. We orignally were way to tied to nsider, and we've come along way to become our own thing. Get rid of sages and ranks, and we'll sever our last major tie to that horrid site.
Heck, get rid of the entire rank system.
Just make it Member1 (can edit psots), Member2(can start polls) and Member3(can delete post), plus mods and admins.
When I first join TBT, I always thought I would make a good sage.
But, I realized that being a sage didn't matter.
When we had the sage competition, I was so mad when I wasn't picked. The three people that were picked to compete.... One of them is banned, one has disapeared, and one is... well you know (no offense)
Now sure, I'm all up for giving rewards such as titles or virutal medals to people who do something exceptional to help tbt like helping with the site or the podcast, and I'm not against allowing people to win contest ranks, but c'mon. We orignally were way to tied to nsider, and we've come along way to become our own thing. Get rid of sages and ranks, and we'll sever our last major tie to that horrid site.
This post makes me laugh. Firstly because I don't know what a "Stage" is.ac1983fan said:
And seriously, what fun would it be having one power after another (referring to group 1, group 2 and group 3 getting powers).
Get rid of the entire rank system?
I don't think thats a good idea, what fun would a forum be without ranks?
And at the last sentence: ???
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As for the Sages not being Sages anymore due to getting our rank taken away, I can't say I'm with the Staff, but I'm not with the Sages either. I sort of think that taking away the rank is the best thing (I get the point of the Staff), but I'd feel weird not having my rank anymore, I've wore this green rank for 2 years and taking it away would feel pretty weird.
The forum would be plenty fun w/o ranks. I doubt anyone cares about them anymore.ZERO_13 said:
And I accidental said stages because I was thinbking of sages at nsider and I remebered a post by someone there about stage nominations about 3 years ago.
Propaganda Man
Senior Member
I recall Darth doing that to me.STORMCOMMANDER said:
Propaganda Man
Senior Member
I haven't read any of the large posts for 2 main reasons.
1. I don't want too.
2. They aren't about me.
The only thing I got from Sporge's posts is that being staff is not rewarding. It is hard work. Um...okay? Responsibility is what being staff is. One of them is not to complain to others.
Also, if this whole thing is about what is being said the in the sage boards why even bring this up here?
Also, Flygon, without the rank you don't have sages. People are being extremists here. Keep the rank but change some things. Maybe add some sages and take some away.
1. I don't want too.
2. They aren't about me.
The only thing I got from Sporge's posts is that being staff is not rewarding. It is hard work. Um...okay? Responsibility is what being staff is. One of them is not to complain to others.
Also, if this whole thing is about what is being said the in the sage boards why even bring this up here?
Also, Flygon, without the rank you don't have sages. People are being extremists here. Keep the rank but change some things. Maybe add some sages and take some away.
Propaganda Man
Senior Member
I like TBT with arguments. Keeps discussion flowing.Gengar said:
Being right doesn't have you lose friends. Its how you be right. Are you going to make a proud man do something that he feels degrades him? Or have him do it in a way that he thinks it is good to?
Also, many came here because of ACAC.
