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Part of the problem comes from elitism. This is seen numerous times. I know some of you really think it's cool to make a "funny" post (if you know what I'm referring to), but the reality is that you look like a child. And then it's encouraged by somebody else. Because it's not one person being an elitist. It's a group. You see, when one person you think is cool, or maybe even "superior to you", makes a post - that's OK and that's funny. But when it's somebody who is "inferior to you" - they're being a noob and they should go away. That's just classic elitism, and of course terms like "bully" and "haze" are going to be used. It's like a virtual clique. And none of them can tell that they look like a bunch of confused children because after all, the only right answer comes from someone in the group itself. Of course!

Now, when someone from the group disagrees with somebody else, the group will not be happy. The groupies will gang up on said member until they know for sure that they are right and that they have won. Also, when another member comes a long that's not in this little group and is not "cool" with the ring leaders, that person is automatically uncool. For example, if one member has bad spelling or is in constant disagreement with the group's beliefs about posting on a forum, they are an automatic target. And it's at this point where I'm going to say of course terms like "cult" are going to be used.

So eventually, of course, one of them is suspended by an admin. This upsets the very core of the group. They go to their round table and discuss how right they are, how wrong everyone else is, and they may even start to plan something. Normally they aren't any type of organized group, they just hang around every now and then. But this calls for action. Surely someone from their group couldn't have been punished! The admin, he must be a bad admin. Rebel, that's what they'll do. The admin dared to defy them, and now he'll pay for what must be complete corruption! So now more people are suspended. How did this happen? It must be true, the admin really is the biggest jerk imaginable. And look at this, nothing is done right. That noob is back again and he isn't making any sense. They'll show him, they'll make him leave! Because they know what's best. They are the elite class of this establishment and they have always known what to do.

When that uncool person breaks a rule, the group can tell that the admins are being extremely one sided. After all, they're hearing about all these punishments, but why not towards these other people? Why just their group? You see, the group actually forgot that punishments are private. But it's too late, they need to show who's who! They're ready to put anybody in their way back in their place! Anything this person says is a complete joke. It wasn't their-group-like and none of them like it. They not only need to get rid of this person, but they should humiliate this person as much as possible for their own pleasure! After all, they're just trying to have some fun!

So I'm posting this little story to show what some here have looked like. I think when you look back at everything now, it has started because someone was an elitist. They thought they were a better person. And the admins don't have favorites. Our job is to enforce the rules. Maybe it's that you break a lot more than you think, if you're wondering why you get warned so much. And I wonder if you realize how many times you insult or offend someone else. Why would you do that? I have been told "we're trying to make it more fun." I have heard all of the excuses. "TBT doesn't have to be like other forums." Oh really, we don't have to set rules for people to follow? We don't have to punish people for giving disrespect? I think that's a joke and that's an absolutely pathetic excuse. So right now we've started something new. When someone clearly has a problem with posting here, their going to be put in a moderation queue for a certain amount of time. This means every post they make will have to be approved by a moderator. It's a shame you need someone to hold your hand through this. I'd expect you to be a respectful person on your own. You really are ruining it for a lot of people here, so the line is being drawn. Lastly, I'd like to say if you have no interest in improving your behavior or trying to get a long with other people, please tell me and I will have your account disabled. There's no reason for you to wait any longer if this is what you really want. There's no point being here... the punishment gets worse and worse with your warn amount. It's only a matter of time if you aren't looking to change a little.
 
Storm, I love you. <3 I'm glad you realize TBT needs to change, and I will help in any way I can.
 
You're obviously talking about TA/TBTU, and saying you're not is complete BS. Stop trying to blame everything on us.
 
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
You're obviously talking about TA/TBTU, and saying you're not is complete BS. Stop trying to blame everything on us.
No. I'll post my PM to you -

The "group" isn't necessarily a group like TBTU or whatever that was. It's a group of TBTers who essentially can respect each other, but not anyone outside of their little "circle". I wasn't referring to TBTU, I don't even know if it exists anymore. I'm not saying it has "members" and everyone acknowledges it's there and you know who's who. It's just how it works that makes it somewhat of a "group". I mean, clique is the best word... it's not a real group... but it is a group of people who can't accept anyone else.

I'm sure TBTU is an example (in fact, that group did cause various problems), but that's more of an actual group than what I'm talking about.
 
DSFAN121 said:
Storm, I love you. <3 I'm glad you realize TBT needs to change, and I will help in any way I can.
Yes. This post is the best one I've ever seen on TBT.
 
Koehler said:
DSFAN121 said:
Storm, I love you. <3 I'm glad you realize TBT needs to change, and I will help in any way I can.
Yes. This post is the best one I've ever seen on TBT.
"QFT"

Yeah, it's pretty massive and correct. And can I ask what TA means?
 
stormcommander said:
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
You're obviously talking about TA/TBTU, and saying you're not is complete BS. Stop trying to blame everything on us.
No. I'll post my PM to you -

The "group" isn't necessarily a group like TBTU or whatever that was. It's a group of TBTers who essentially can respect each other, but not anyone outside of their little "circle". I wasn't referring to TBTU, I don't even know if it exists anymore. I'm not saying it has "members" and everyone acknowledges it's there and you know who's who. It's just how it works that makes it somewhat of a "group". I mean, clique is the best word... it's not a real group... but it is a group of people who can't accept anyone else.
Yes, I saw that after I posted. This isn't really happening... Maybe with snoop, but that's because his posts are for the most part unreadable. Not because we are trying to look "cool" and not accept anyone else.
 
I know everyone involved will say it's not happening. But I think it's not being realized... I mean certainly no one wants to say they're in a clique or that they can't accept somebody else, but that's what's happening. It's more of a subconscious thing. It's probably normal, but not when it gets out of control.
 
Yeah, that's why I made that post. Although I didn't talk about cliques, since I just saw it as people sitting at a desk miles away from me being stupid, rather than hazing.
 
If I dislike someone, its not because I just don't want to accept anyone new, its because of how they act, or what they say. If they make stupid posts and act like an idiot, of course I won't like them.
 
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
If I dislike someone, its not because I just don't want to accept anyone new, its because of how they act, or what they say. If they make stupid posts and act like an idiot, of course I won't like them.
QFT

That's the only reason you should ever dislike someone on a forum.
 
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
If they make stupid posts and act like an idiot, of course I won't like them.
Certain older members are doing that exact thing here.

I'm not disagreeing with you totally, though.
 
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
If I dislike someone, its not because I just don't want to accept anyone new, its because of how they act, or what they say. If they make stupid posts and act like an idiot, of course I won't like them.
You contradicted yourself. That means you aren't accepting them. Also, that's your opinion. So if I think that post you just made was stupid, I should dislike you, and since I'm an admin punish you as much as possible????

ZELDAFREAK104 said:
If I dislike someone, its not because I just don't want to accept anyone new, its because of how they act, or what they say. If they make stupid posts and act like an idiot, of course I won't like them.
QFT

That's the only reason you should ever dislike someone on a forum.
I don't care who likes who. It's when they start acting with it. And DSFAN, you also contradicted yourself unless you mean something else. Weren't you just complaining that somebody disliked you and something was wrong?
 
stormcommander said:
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
If I dislike someone, its not because I just don't want to accept anyone new, its because of how they act, or what they say. If they make stupid posts and act like an idiot, of course I won't like them.
You contradicted yourself. That means you aren't accepting them. Also, that's your opinion. So if I think that post you just made was stupid, I should dislike you, and since I'm an admin punish you as much as possible????
So... am I not supposed to dislike anyone? Do I have to love everyone?

And who says you don't do that? You probably punish people more that you dislike, even if it is subconsciously.
 
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
stormcommander said:
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
If I dislike someone, its not because I just don't want to accept anyone new, its because of how they act, or what they say. If they make stupid posts and act like an idiot, of course I won't like them.
You contradicted yourself. That means you aren't accepting them. Also, that's your opinion. So if I think that post you just made was stupid, I should dislike you, and since I'm an admin punish you as much as possible????
So... am I not supposed to dislike anyone? Do I have to love everyone?

And who says you don't do that? You probably punish people more that you dislike, even if it is subconsciously.
I answered both of those things. First question in the post you quoted (below quote). Second thing in my original post in this thread.
 
Disliking is allright, however, when you dislike something/someone and post junk or crap in their topic or pursue them, they are going to dislike you back and something like this will happen; and the bans/warns/etc. will come out.
 
stormcommander said:
ZELDAFREAK104 said:
If I dislike someone, its not because I just don't want to accept anyone new, its because of how they act, or what they say. If they make stupid posts and act like an idiot, of course I won't like them.
QFT

That's the only reason you should ever dislike someone on a forum.
I don't care who likes who. It's when they start acting with it. And DSFAN, you also contradicted yourself unless you mean something else. Weren't you just complaining that somebody disliked you and something was wrong?
Dude...you're not making sense. Who said that I said anything about acting on it?
 
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