Tana Mongeau? (The N word drama, Tana vs Idubbz)

[seliph]

so, it's alright to use disgusting slurs if you're not """privileged""" lol
of course it means the same thing. you can't do that.

Ok I didn't wanna get involved in this thread but apparently yall just don't get it.

So imagine someone just straight up punches you in the face. The only person who can truly say if it was painful or not is you. Not the person who punched you, not your best friend who was with you when it happened.

Imagine millions of people getting punched in the face and then not only the people who punched them, but people who weren't punched before saying they're "reclaiming the punch" or that they're gonna "use the punch in a friendly way", or they're "just punching people to show that it shouldn't be done". They sound like damn fools right? That's why slurs can only be used and reclaimed by the people they specifically target. The only person who can say "You know what? The punch doesn't affect me anymore" is you.

 

[Haskell]

Both are completely unintelligent and entitled.

No one should say the n word.

 

[Hopeless Opus]

i think tana is one of the biggest *******s on youtube currently. she is honestly so stupid it blows my mind. i love how ian exposed her to all hell. she really is a moron for trying to come for someone who is known for coming for and ruining lives/careers, and she's extremely hypocritical to try and say 'x-d omg u said That Word omg it's so bad stop' then she goes and says it in the most derogatory way numerous times with vid proof... so stupid and foolish. she should've laughed off what he did and that would've gotten the best of him and made him look like a fool but she's too dumb for that.

 

[pinkcotton]

Ugh, yes, the drama.
I'm on Idubbz side, I'm not going into it because that will take up the whole page.

 

[nostalgibra]

I've heard all about this but I have no idea who either of them are, so I did some research and...wow. Both of them are really nasty people. Eww.

 

[Soraru]

let everyone say it or no one say it
preferably the former

lol we aren't letting you guys do anything.
other non-black people wanna use the n-word. a word that ISN'T FOR THEM.
do they even know what its basic definition? and non-blacks should use it? what?
and then those same people turn around and think we can't and shouldn't reclaim it to ourselves and within our community?
"let everyone say it or no one say it."
translates to
"if we outsiders can't say a word thats we use for general means to dehumanize blacks, you blacks can't use it as a coping mechanism within your community, among yourselves."

that's real backwards.

 

[forestyne]

okay. Back in ye old slavery time, white slave owners would beat/rape/hurt their slaves. Constantly they would call them the n word with a hard er. This would continue for until slavery ended. Once black people were free and civil right movements and what not some black people decided If that word was derogatory towards me and my black brothers and sisters, why don't we try to change its history, make it a greeting. But never was it forgotten that the word came from uses that would oppress black people and say you don't deserve to be a human, you don't deserve rights and you don't derserve respect. But black purple, remember that, reclaimed it to change its connotation. So only black people, who were called the n word back in slavery time, can say the n word because it only effected them. Only black people can say it and use it. Non blacks saying the n word isn't a double standard they are just trashy and annoying.

To be honest, pretty much every American has learnt about slavery. If the logic is "it only affected blacks, therefore we can only say it", wouldn't you reclaim everything that relates to that event in history, including all the other words? People seem to forget the history of the dance 'limbo', white people still do that.

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lol we aren't letting you guys do anything.
other non-black people wanna use the n-word. a word that ISN'T FOR THEM.
do they even know what its basic definition? and non-blacks should use it? what?
and then those same people turn around and think we can't and shouldn't reclaim it to ourselves and within our community?
"let everyone say it or no one say it."
translates to
"if we outsiders can't say a word thats we use for general means to dehumanize blacks, you blacks can't use it as a coping mechanism within your community, among yourselves."

that's real backwards.

But nobody's reclaiming the f-word. I wouldn't want other people calling me gay slurs because "we've claimed it and it only affects us". Asian people aren't reclaiming 'zipperhead'. How is it a coping mechanism? That doesn't make sense.

 

[AnimalCrossingPerson]

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I'm not going to get involved any further in an argument that shouldn't exist (is it really that big a deal?!), but non-grey post merges need to become a thing.

 

[f11]

To be honest, pretty much every American has learnt about slavery. If the logic is "it only affected blacks, therefore we can only say it", wouldn't you reclaim everything that relates to that event in history, including all the other words? People seem to forget the history of the dance 'limbo', white people still do that.

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But nobody's reclaiming the f-word. I wouldn't want other people calling me gay slurs because "we've claimed it and it only affects us". Asian people aren't reclaiming 'zipperhead'. How is it a coping mechanism? That doesn't make sense.

any slur can be reclaimed if that group of people want to.

 

[moonford]

I think there's going to be an argument ahead so the thread will be closed soon, thanks for everybody's thoughts and opinions but I don't see it getting any better from here on out.

 

[forestyne]

any slur can be reclaimed if that group of people want to.

But we don't want to be called derogatory names and gay slurs because it only affects us. We don't want it to exist at all.

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I think there's going to be an argument ahead so the thread will be closed soon, thanks for everybody's thoughts and opinions but I don't see it getting any better from here on out.

true tbh man, you may as well just ask the admins to lock the thread.

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I'm not going to get involved any further in an argument that shouldn't exist (is it really that big a deal?!), but non-grey post merges need to become a thing.

It's ezpz to do, man. You just edit the post and change the colour. It's pretty sick. I never said I was cool ok