Kirbystarship
Senior Member
@tui I make longer posts if I'm sus of someone.
Forgot to ask, so you listed who you thought is town, but how about scum? Is there anyone else (besides Ness that you already said you found sus), that seems scummy to you? Please list why. Thanks! :3 Also I believe you forgot to answer my other question, how do you know Crys is using her gut feeling? o:
Just going to re quote this since it seems you are ignoring my questions or just genuinely missing them lol.
"On another note, what are your thoughts on oak, minties, ness, and kirby then? o: "
Also, besides myself, is there anyone else under your radar? o: If so, could you list who and why? Thanks <:
Wow that was pretty fast LOL Did you skim through everything? o: (Or I just read really slow LOL )
OHHH!!! Thank you!! <: I'll still like to know what you wanted to be this game before you got your role o: (I definitely feel like the question should have been rephrased too ahaha when players answered town, it made it seem like it said they wanted to be town but didn't get town xD Though, I knew it was just the question so I didn't think too much of it unless they worded it weirdly.
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Going to go ahead and re-quote and post my questions to this again as well. I know you said you won't be making justified reads, but please at least list some reasons for your reads. xD I understand my scum read and shiida's, but not the other three.
"I'll like to know your thoughts on your reads please and thanks! :3 What makes you town lean tui and Liam? o: Tui has only posted a total of 4 times and has only pretty much answered the RQS questions o: As for Liam, this is his first mafia game, and new players tends to be really hard to read at first, so how were you able to read him as town so fast? O:
As for me, aside from my grammar mistake, what makes you think I may be scum? o:
As Entropy already posted, I'll also like to know what makes you think Blu Rose is scum :3"
blue pikachu - their posts just give the impression that they really just don't want to play. so far they haven't answered any RQS or even contributed to any discussion other than their own defense - i know it's early on in the game, but surely they must have some thoughts about people to contribute. they've also been pretty inactive without stating any excuse for being, and i find their response to entropy to be too thought out and just all round odd for what was really just a reaction test. so until i see more from you, i'm giving you a slight scumlean for these reasons.
When crys uses her gut feeling she mostly guesses who scum is and pushes people to vote for that person. Also I'm sus on Hayden I don't feel like he is posting freely.
What I bolded and underlined from your post seriously raises a red flag for me xDI can see your reasoning for why you have suspicion of me. I think that this being my first actual mafia game combined with my poor time management skills might have something to do with my poor play quality and lack of contribution, but I do have suspicion of Kirbystarship for the reasons everyone else is suspicious of him, so I'd just be repeating what everyone else is saying if I said why I think he's scum. And MAYBE my response to my interrogation made me seem suspicious, but my odd response was most likely due to me being caught off guard. Again, this is my first game so I didn't know what to expect.
Hmm okay! Thanks for answering! :3 Also, you forgot to answer my other question as well XD
How is your case coming along about Minties? You said you would be posting why she seems forced today. o:
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What I bolded and underlined from your post seriously raises a red flag for me xD
Aside from kirby then, is there anyone else whom you find slightly suspicious? o: If so, please list why as well. :3
Let me rephrase what I said. I was caught off guard because I didn't realize how intense this would be, and how intense it would get so quickly. Other than the natural suspicion of everyone because I can't be 100% about anyone, I'm not very suspicious of anyone else besides Kirby.
Let me rephrase what I said. I was caught off guard because I didn't realize how intense this would be, and how intense it would get so quickly. Other than the natural suspicion of everyone because I can't be 100% about anyone, I'm not very suspicious of anyone else besides Kirby.
Let me rephrase what I said. I was caught off guard because I didn't realize how intense this would be, and how intense it would get so quickly. Other than the natural suspicion of everyone because I can't be 100% about anyone, I'm not very suspicious of anyone else besides Kirby.
Are you caught up on this thread or did you just skim this thread. It is kinda weird how you are only sus of me because how far we are in this game.
What felt intense for you? Was it when Entropy called you out as scum? o:
Are you caught up on this thread or did you just skim this thread. It is kinda weird how you are only sus of me because how far we are in this game.
I find it more suspicious that you keep missing/skipping my questions I ask towards you and I have to keep bringing it up to you each time. LOL Either that or you only end up answering one of the questions I ask and skip the others. I'll like to ask the same question to you, are you always caught up with the thread or do you just skim it? xD
"So do you now scum lean/town lean/ or read Crys as null? lol xD It seems like you are hopping around with your reads when you were questioned about your town lean read on Crys xD"
"How is your case coming along about Minties? You said you would be posting why she seems forced today. o:"
Well this is cool because so far there have been lots of great thoughts, and I don't even have much to say because others have raised my concerns/questions etc. already. At this point I do want to say that I find Minties suspicious because of everything she's posted so far. She says that she will not be too interested/active in this game, but immediately shows interest in Tardis for what is in my opinion not suspicious at all.
I also think that Entropy made a good point about Hayden's post, although I don't know their playstyle well and wouldn't go as far to call it scummy, I think it's probably an indicator, and I trust Entropy's judgement.
The last thing to note is Ness going as far as to "vote" for Tardis, which seems pretty bizarre and extreme so early.
although I don't know their playstyle well and wouldn't go as far to call it scummy, I think it's probably an indicator,
u know whats weirder? u going after tardis
Well now that we've wasted the first several hours with meaningless RQS, let's get down to the facts.
Dolby is in this game. You know what that means, right?
Dolby needs to get rekt.
Trundle is Town.
It's your typical nonchalant speaking as if what you're saying is fact and it's purpose is finding scum so you're most likely green with a slight chance of third party.
Hey everyone. I'm sorry about being inactive for the majority of yesterday. Thursdays are my busy days and I didn't have much of a chance to read the thread, but I read everything and I'm ready to be more active.
At this point, I'm a little surprised at people being suspicious of me. However, it would make sense for the people who sus me to be suspicious because of their lack of experience with me so I don't think it's that abnormal.
I'll compile my reads with the player list:
01. Alexi
I find Alexi difficult to understand because as Town they try to be helpful but are often misled or come to wrong conclusions, which isn't really that bad because they create some discussion but it doesn't lead to much. This game she seems to be tunneling me a little bit which I don't really understand. I think it's reasonable for her to be suspicious due to her not knowing my playstyle but going as far as to vote for me on day 1 doesn't make any sense. This, combined with her shady voting makes me suspicious of her, but I think it's possible that she could be Town.
02. ClamEatsCurry
03. Cory
I'm quite certain that Cory is Town due to his emotional behaviour this game as well as his authenticity when it comes to what he's been posting this game. His behaviour fits his past games as Town.
04. Cadbberry
05. Call Me Daniel
06. Jacob
I'm still suspicious of Jacob but I also find him sort of hard to read. I think Trundle's early case on him was good and needs to be considered again.
07. Entropy
Entropy is emotional and very vocal. They seem to be acting very pro-Town this game and their extreme opposition to Tom makes me believe that there was no bussing involved in their conversations. I'm very certain that Entropy is Town.
08. Bango/Crys
09. Tardis2016
I think Tardis2016 is Town. I don't know if they've been Mafia before so I have nothing to compare to but either way I'm quite certain they're Town due to their playstyle.
10. Dolby
I'm confused at Dolby so far. Even as Town he can tend to be quiet and his sudden jump on Trundle seemed odd to me. It's possible that he's trying to change the way he plays so he isn't as obvious but it doesn't seem to matter. People ignore him regardless of how obvious it is that he's scum, which makes me think that his behaviour this game is genuine, but I'm not sure. I'll be watching Dolby because he confuses me.
11. Heyden
12. taesaek
I think Trundle's post on taesaek is reasonable and for that reason I'm suspicious of them.
13. Bingo/Trundle
Trundle is basically cleared in my mind and unfortunately I was unable to give anyone my thoughts last night, which I apologize for.
14. Ashtot
I am Town.
15. Sataric
When Sataric first started pushing Trundle a bit, I was suspicious of him. I thought Trundle's alignment was easy to see for veteran players, so when Sataric first mentioned him it rose red flegs. After Sataric explained his thoughts more and his case, it seems reasonable for him to think what he thought, so I'm leaning more towards Town sided at this point, but things could change in the future. I do find that he was quick to join with Dolby which I find is odd because Sataric knows Dolby's playstyle and it didn't seem to affect him.
16. Ayaya
17. Tom - Reiner Braun (1-shot Mafia Strongman) - Lynched Day One
Unfortunately I wasn't able to say anything but I was quite certain that Tom was Mafia because of his opposition of Trundle and his conversations with Entropy. Thankfully he's dead now and it's nice that he was the Strongman.
18. Kevinnn
19. Arstotzkan
20. Wild Blue Yonder
21. Shiida
I don't think I've played with them before, but they seem to be acting pro-Town and although I'm not a fan of their posting style I think they're trying to be helpful. I think they're Town at this point.
22. Miharu
From reading the thread I've noticed that Miharu's reads don't really make any sense. I'm guessing this is due to them being unfamiliar with everyone's playstyle. I also noticed that they are reluctant to oppose anyone and when they do they often take it back. I don't know what to think of them at this point but I'll be watching them.
The players that I skipped I don't have a stance on yet. I'm unfamiliar with most of them or I just haven't seen enough of their posts or behaviour to say anything.
Sorry that this post isn't extremely insightful but these are my thoughts at this point.
Given that it's common knowledge that anyone that has currency accumulation isn't the king, it's something we should definitely keep to ourselves.
f) Pronoun of choice?He/him/Lord and saviour.
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I spent some time thinking it over and I doubt Sataric's play is anything other than protown. (There isn't any real reward for scamming people out of their initial funds to lose a team member, even if they had a team set up that wouldn't lose a kp from 1 mafia death.)
That being said, Sataric, anyone that has funds to transfer is automatically not the King. Are you sure demonstrating to the mafia a reasonable number of non-kings is wise? Granted, I do think some amount of won should be pooled to take advantage of that ticket, but I don't think everyone that has won available should give it to you. I like this compromise since we get use out of your ticket, but we don't give too much information to the mafia.
I would also advise any doctor-style role to be on Sataric during the night, since killing him would remove a good amount of the won that's in the game currently. (Assuming he's town, of course.)
At no point in my post did I townread Sataric, sorry if I wasn't clear on what I said.
I said that I couldn't see the move he was making as a mafia play, hence I didn't see a reason to not go through with it. (With the amendments I suggested.)
I didn't ask the doctor to be on him because I thought he was town, that request was under the premise that he would be given (some amount of) won today, and it would be logical to not risk (in the event that he was town) mafia being able to kill him and remove that won from the game. (Hence the "if he is town" portion on the end of that comment.
Oh, and tui, try to avoid using meta unless there's at least 2 - although preferably more - games backing the line of reasoning up. The only time meta is useful in a single case scenario is where someone is scumreading something they themselves did as town, in which case it's not only sufficient evidence, but it's strong evidence that they themselves aren't town.
It's 9 am and I haven't slept. Yes, I'm aware this was a terrible life decision. My brain is completely incapable of solving simplistic maths in this state and I therefore have no idea when the day is ending. If the day ends before I have access again, it's super important that the king lynches within people with at least a reasonable amount of suspicion on them. (Right now, if I recall correctly, Kirby, Ness, Blu Rose, and Oak. I might've missed one, but you get the general drift of what I'm saying.)
If the king chooses to wildcard the mafia get a huge advantage in figuring them out.
Basically what I'm saying is that I don't want to wake up to, for example, minties having been lynched and having flipped blue, or Sataric having been lynched and flipping green. (Before someone misconstrues this line, I don't have a solid read on either of them. The point was made that king wildcarded <strong player> who flipped <town> is the undesired outcome.)
Even in the best case scenario where the king wildcards and hits a mafia, they still give mafia a huge amount of info that lets them figure the king out. Which is still disadvantageous.
That might not have made much sense since I'm practically sleep deprived at this point, but I'm reasonably certain I got the general gist of it across.
Blu Rose case has reasonable backing, it's a kinda attempting-to-look-like-you're-contributing-without-really-contributing kind of set, but I just feel like that case would be something I'd pursue if there weren't so many more interesting cases lying around.
I don't really have an opinion on the kirby fiasco. Feels like a player I'd have to read over their games and learn their playstyle to get a definitive read. They're not behaving like a rational human being, regardless of alignment.
My opinion on Ness and Oak have been made fairly clear. That being said, I'm tempted to say that if Ness doesn't post before deadline, there's no reason to lynch him. He could be genuinely unable to post, and oak is a good alternate lynch with little chance at redemption.
xD When I think about it now after this post, it feels like your reaction to Entropy's post definitely seemed like you were worried that we found out that you were mafia. When I asked why did you ask what you missed when you said you were caught up, you said that after posting, you went to catch up on the thread. The timestamp was 7mins, and now you said you haven't read everything. It seems like you were rushing through the thread to see if anyone posted anything of evidence that said you were mafia. You didn't need to worry about Entropy's post if you are town. xDProbably of how I need to defend myself 10x as much as I thought I would have because of one reaction to one post.
Of course I haven't read EVERY SINGLE POST, but I have read most of them, and my claim of suspicion towards you remains the same. It's still only the first half of Day 1 mind you, so my suspicions are still brewing. I will most likely have more solid suspicions of other once Day 2 rolls around. But for now, you seem the scummiest so far due to the large amount of evidence that claims you being scum. I, personally, haven't really seen enough evidence to largely suspect anyone else yet.
At first I thought it was a great idea that Sat brought forward, but now that I'm thinking more about it, I feel like it's a double edged sword. The player with the most purple vote claiming works the same way as when we use an open voting thread. The only difference is (that tui pointed out) is the fact that we don't know if the leader will think the same way as us or whether or not they even plan on lynching the people we have out as suspicious. If the person with the most purple votes ends up claiming (and we end up switching our purple votes to the next suspicious person and they end up claiming as well on the same day and so on..) and if the leader ends up choosing to lynch someone who wasn't on our radar yet, then that'll make it easier for Mafia to hunt down our PRs ;__; I definitely don't want to mislynch again, but as of right now, our votes means nothing if the leader isn't thinking the same as us. If he/she is, then I think this would work in our favor. cxDay ends in like 3 hours. People have decided to the fake purple voting thing. No one but the king knows who will be lynched. My question is that should the person with the most purple votes claim before day ends or not. I've never played a set up like this on forum mafia so I was wondering if the roleclaiming at the end of the day when you have the most votes a thing or not? Do you think it's should be done? I'm don't want to have a mislynch but at the same time it's up to the king do anything could happen. Ty if you answer this.
Sorry I missed your questions sometimes I miss afew posts while reading I'm caught up on this thread. As for my read on Crys I'm scumlean them. It isn't a case on Minties but afew posts feel odd and her tone.
Decided to throw in one last post before I go (back) to sleep, and it's time to 'throw some shade' at people:
@ Daniel - You're friggin' doing it again! Reading your latest post, I've got to be honest with you and say that it just has scummy vibes smeared all over it. Some of the other players already posted a few of the reasons they felt similarly about it, but in truth the whole post feels highly suspect. If you are town, like you were in Attack on Titan, you need to step up. I get that you're busy with work and such but contributing more is not so much about making a million posts as it is about sharing genuine opinions on things that others feel are trustworthy. You're not doing that right now.
@ Kirby - You keep ignoring questions that are being repeated to you over and over again, yet you still reply to the thread. Any specific reason for that? It doesn't make you look good.
@ Ness - You're still MIA. I hope that this is not some kind of "new playstyle" but that you are simply busy.
@ Miharu - Last game you came across as genuinely innocent, even when you made mistakes, voted for the benefit of the Mafia on crucial lynches, and defended the wrong people. There was just a certain honesty to the way you acted that was incredibly hard to deny or ignore. This game, I'm really not seeing it, and it feels like you're hiding your true intentions somewhere between your bubbly personality and how incredibly 'moe' you are.
@ Tui - You're playing well so far, and I'm impressed, and hope you stay on the same path. That said, anyone who has you "townlocked" on day 1 is foolish or doesn't understand what townlocked actually mean.
@ Everyone who isn't using the "purple votes" system - What have you got to hide? Don't want it put on the record whom you're the most suspicious of, so we can use this information to town's advantage at a later date in the game? Your behavior is greatly frowned up.
@ Xine - I've never played with you before but I've heard rumors of your greatness, yet in this game thus far you haven't started playing yet. Maybe there's a very good reason for that (you mentioned bad internet access) but I'm still hoping you show up and thrash through this thread like a hurricane at one point or another.
Before-posting-edit: Ah, seems you just posted! Looking forward to reading it.
Overall I feel like there's a huge amount of anti-town behavior, red flags, and general avoidance of answering important questions or sharing your views and opinions on things. Also, I'd like to switch my unofficial vote to ##VOTE:Kirby because although Ness is still incredibly suspect he might be genuinely busy, whilst Kirby has been present in the thread a ton and yet doesn't seem to be able to defuse any suspicion I have of him.
xD When I think about it now after this post, it feels like your reaction to Entropy's post definitely seemed like you were worried that we found out that you were mafia. When I asked why did you ask what you missed when you said you were caught up, you said that after posting, you went to catch up on the thread. The timestamp was 7mins, and now you said you haven't read everything. It seems like you were rushing through the thread to see if anyone posted anything of evidence that said you were mafia. You didn't need to worry about Entropy's post if you are town. xD
At first I thought it was a great idea that Sat brought forward, but now that I'm thinking more about it, I feel like it's a double edged sword. The player with the most purple vote claiming works the same way as when we use an open voting thread. The only difference is (that tui pointed out) is the fact that we don't know if the leader will think the same way as us or whether or not they even plan on lynching the people we have out as suspicious. If the person with the most purple votes ends up claiming (and we end up switching our purple votes to the next suspicious person and they end up claiming as well on the same day and so on..) and if the leader ends up choosing to lynch someone who wasn't on our radar yet, then that'll make it easier for Mafia to hunt down our PRs ;__; I definitely don't want to mislynch again, but as of right now, our votes means nothing if the leader isn't thinking the same as us. If he/she is, then I think this would work in our favor. cx
Could you explain why Minties's posts feel forced then? xD
At first I thought it was a great idea that Sat brought forward, but now that I'm thinking more about it, I feel like it's a double edged sword. The player with the most purple vote claiming works the same way as when we use an open voting thread. The only difference is (that tui pointed out) is the fact that we don't know if the leader will think the same way as us or whether or not they even plan on lynching the people we have out as suspicious. If the person with the most purple votes ends up claiming (and we end up switching our purple votes to the next suspicious person and they end up claiming as well on the same day and so on..) and if the leader ends up choosing to lynch someone who wasn't on our radar yet, then that'll make it easier for Mafia to hunt down our PRs ;__; I definitely don't want to mislynch again, but as of right now, our votes means nothing if the leader isn't thinking the same as us. If he/she is, then I think this would work in our favor. cx
Are you talking about last recent Newbie game hosted by Jacob and Crys? o: Or the first game I ever played with you (Attack on Titan). XD Could you also show me a post where you think I'm trying to hide my true intentions? o: I think the only difference from my playstyle now is that I'm able to ask questions early on to help us in the long run since I understand the game more instead of being confused of what is going on and what I was suppose to do during my first mafia game with you xD and omg "moe" LOL@ Miharu - Last game you came across as genuinely innocent, even when you made mistakes, voted for the benefit of the Mafia on crucial lynches, and defended the wrong people. There was just a certain honesty to the way you acted that was incredibly hard to deny or ignore. This game, I'm really not seeing it, and it feels like you're hiding your true intentions somewhere between your bubbly personality and how incredibly 'moe' you are.
Why did you not post your explanation as to why you thought Minties's posts was forced until I reminded/asked you to? o:Sorry I have been ignoring the questions sent to me sometimes I miss them or it takes time for me to answer them.
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Minties tone feels weird to me I'll explain just need to find the posts.