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Forgot to ask, so you listed who you thought is town, but how about scum? Is there anyone else (besides Ness that you already said you found sus), that seems scummy to you? Please list why. Thanks! :3 Also I believe you forgot to answer my other question, how do you know Crys is using her gut feeling? o:


Just going to re quote this since it seems you are ignoring my questions or just genuinely missing them lol.
"On another note, what are your thoughts on oak, minties, ness, and kirby then? o: "

Also, besides myself, is there anyone else under your radar? o: If so, could you list who and why? Thanks <:


Wow that was pretty fast LOL Did you skim through everything? o: (Or I just read really slow LOL )


OHHH!!! Thank you!! <: I'll still like to know what you wanted to be this game before you got your role o: (I definitely feel like the question should have been rephrased too ahaha when players answered town, it made it seem like it said they wanted to be town but didn't get town xD Though, I knew it was just the question so I didn't think too much of it unless they worded it weirdly.

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Going to go ahead and re-quote and post my questions to this again as well. I know you said you won't be making justified reads, but please at least list some reasons for your reads. xD I understand my scum read and shiida's, but not the other three.

"I'll like to know your thoughts on your reads please and thanks! :3 What makes you town lean tui and Liam? o: Tui has only posted a total of 4 times and has only pretty much answered the RQS questions o: As for Liam, this is his first mafia game, and new players tends to be really hard to read at first, so how were you able to read him as town so fast? O:

As for me, aside from my grammar mistake, what makes you think I may be scum? o:

As Entropy already posted, I'll also like to know what makes you think Blu Rose is scum :3"

When crys uses her gut feeling she mostly guesses who scum is and pushes people to vote for that person. Also I'm sus on Hayden I don't feel like he is posting freely.
 
blue pikachu - their posts just give the impression that they really just don't want to play. so far they haven't answered any RQS or even contributed to any discussion other than their own defense - i know it's early on in the game, but surely they must have some thoughts about people to contribute. they've also been pretty inactive without stating any excuse for being, and i find their response to entropy to be too thought out and just all round odd for what was really just a reaction test. so until i see more from you, i'm giving you a slight scumlean for these reasons.

I can see your reasoning for why you have suspicion of me. I think that this being my first actual mafia game combined with my poor time management skills might have something to do with my poor play quality and lack of contribution, but I do have suspicion of Kirbystarship for the reasons everyone else is suspicious of him, so I'd just be repeating what everyone else is saying if I said why I think he's scum. And MAYBE my response to my interrogation made me seem suspicious, but my odd response was most likely due to me being caught off guard. Again, this is my first game so I didn't know what to expect.
 
When crys uses her gut feeling she mostly guesses who scum is and pushes people to vote for that person. Also I'm sus on Hayden I don't feel like he is posting freely.

Hmm okay! Thanks for answering! :3 Also, you forgot to answer my other question as well XD
How is your case coming along about Minties? You said you would be posting why she seems forced today. o:

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I can see your reasoning for why you have suspicion of me. I think that this being my first actual mafia game combined with my poor time management skills might have something to do with my poor play quality and lack of contribution, but I do have suspicion of Kirbystarship for the reasons everyone else is suspicious of him, so I'd just be repeating what everyone else is saying if I said why I think he's scum. And MAYBE my response to my interrogation made me seem suspicious, but my odd response was most likely due to me being caught off guard. Again, this is my first game so I didn't know what to expect.
What I bolded and underlined from your post seriously raises a red flag for me xD
Aside from kirby then, is there anyone else whom you find slightly suspicious? o: If so, please list why as well. :3
 
Hmm okay! Thanks for answering! :3 Also, you forgot to answer my other question as well XD
How is your case coming along about Minties? You said you would be posting why she seems forced today. o:

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What I bolded and underlined from your post seriously raises a red flag for me xD
Aside from kirby then, is there anyone else whom you find slightly suspicious? o: If so, please list why as well. :3

Let me rephrase what I said. I was caught off guard because I didn't realize how intense this would be, and how intense it would get so quickly. Other than the natural suspicion of everyone because I can't be 100% about anyone, I'm not very suspicious of anyone else besides Kirby.
 
Let me rephrase what I said. I was caught off guard because I didn't realize how intense this would be, and how intense it would get so quickly. Other than the natural suspicion of everyone because I can't be 100% about anyone, I'm not very suspicious of anyone else besides Kirby.

sorry but im not sure how anything has been even remotely intense so far...
 
Let me rephrase what I said. I was caught off guard because I didn't realize how intense this would be, and how intense it would get so quickly. Other than the natural suspicion of everyone because I can't be 100% about anyone, I'm not very suspicious of anyone else besides Kirby.

What felt intense for you? Was it when Entropy called you out as scum? o:
 
Let me rephrase what I said. I was caught off guard because I didn't realize how intense this would be, and how intense it would get so quickly. Other than the natural suspicion of everyone because I can't be 100% about anyone, I'm not very suspicious of anyone else besides Kirby.

Are you caught up on this thread or did you just skim this thread. It is kinda weird how you are only sus of me because how far we are in this game.
 
Are you caught up on this thread or did you just skim this thread. It is kinda weird how you are only sus of me because how far we are in this game.

I find it more suspicious that you keep missing/skipping my questions I ask towards you and I have to keep bringing it up to you each time. LOL Either that or you only end up answering one of the questions I ask and skip the others. I'll like to ask the same question to you, are you always caught up with the thread or do you just skim it? xD

"So do you now scum lean/town lean/ or read Crys as null? lol xD It seems like you are hopping around with your reads when you were questioned about your town lean read on Crys xD"

"How is your case coming along about Minties? You said you would be posting why she seems forced today. o:"
 
What felt intense for you? Was it when Entropy called you out as scum? o:

Probably of how I need to defend myself 10x as much as I thought I would have because of one reaction to one post.

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Are you caught up on this thread or did you just skim this thread. It is kinda weird how you are only sus of me because how far we are in this game.

Of course I haven't read EVERY SINGLE POST, but I have read most of them, and my claim of suspicion towards you remains the same. It's still only the first half of Day 1 mind you, so my suspicions are still brewing. I will most likely have more solid suspicions of other once Day 2 rolls around. But for now, you seem the scummiest so far due to the large amount of evidence that claims you being scum. I, personally, haven't really seen enough evidence to largely suspect anyone else yet.
 
Day ends in like 3 hours. People have decided to the fake purple voting thing. No one but the king knows who will be lynched. My question is that should the person with the most purple votes claim before day ends or not. I've never played a set up like this on forum mafia so I was wondering if the roleclaiming at the end of the day when you have the most votes a thing or not? Do you think it's should be done? I'm don't want to have a mislynch but at the same time it's up to the king do anything could happen. Ty if you answer this.
 
I find it more suspicious that you keep missing/skipping my questions I ask towards you and I have to keep bringing it up to you each time. LOL Either that or you only end up answering one of the questions I ask and skip the others. I'll like to ask the same question to you, are you always caught up with the thread or do you just skim it? xD

"So do you now scum lean/town lean/ or read Crys as null? lol xD It seems like you are hopping around with your reads when you were questioned about your town lean read on Crys xD"

"How is your case coming along about Minties? You said you would be posting why she seems forced today. o:"

Sorry I missed your questions sometimes I miss afew posts while reading I'm caught up on this thread. As for my read on Crys I'm scumlean them. It isn't a case on Minties but afew posts feel odd and her tone.
 
Hello. It?s been too long, hasn't it?

I have been way too busy this week, to the point where I was considering being replaced, but I will only use that as a last resort. I will start this off with the RQS.

What is your time zone?GMT -10 Currently
You're shown a red button, a blue button, a pink button, and a yellow button. Which one do you click? All of them.
How much mafia experience do you have? Well over 20, to be honest I do not really keep track.
What is your avatar from? From the depths of my soul.
Someone dares you to jump a 2 meter gap with a 20 meter drop for $20, do you do it? Sure, why not.
What alignment did you want to be this game?Why?: Lately I have been preferring town or third party, because mafia is too much effort for me and I dislike relying on others.
How do you react under pressure?: I'm all bark, and no bite.
How active do you plan on being this game?: I am unfortunately not sure, like I said I was thinking about opting for replacement because I am on vacation but I think it will be fine soon. Reading the thread is not much of a problem, but I only have a small window of time where I can get on a computer.
How well do you think you scumhunt(Look to find mafia)?Why?: I'll pretend I don't have an ego here, I'm relatively decent.
What should we expect from your play-style this game?: I tend to stick to the same playstyle, although I do make shifts so I don't become stale. I am trying to be less heavy on walls of text, though, so you all do not grow tired of me.

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I have always disliked the King setup, because votes are very telling. I strongly insist that everyone still ?votes? in the form of posting in the thread : not only will that be important for later in the game, but also so that our beloved Eternal President has a sense of direction. This might be too late to coordinate today but we need to have a time restraint on this voting as well, so that there is enough time for someone to claim before Day ends. Allowing someone time to claim is extremely crucial, as others have said.

In kingmaker set ups, newer or lazy mafia either tend to try to blend in by not giving strong/clear reads, or by giving little to weak reasoning behind them. But the stronger players are bolder, and they give cases to persuade people. It?s not my intention to get preachy on you, I just want this to be a reminder to not let people influence your opinions without you examining what they are saying and the possible motivations for yourself. Even if they are a more experienced player than yourself, it does not matter. You gain nothing by accepting what others tell you as the full truth without question.

Now that the preface out of the way, here?s the fun part:

Ashtot is my top scumread.

>inb4 ?But how, he?s only had one post!?

This post is really all I needed, because it is the most intentionally anti-town post in the game at this moment.

Well this is cool because so far there have been lots of great thoughts, and I don't even have much to say because others have raised my concerns/questions etc. already. At this point I do want to say that I find Minties suspicious because of everything she's posted so far. She says that she will not be too interested/active in this game, but immediately shows interest in Tardis for what is in my opinion not suspicious at all.

I also think that Entropy made a good point about Hayden's post, although I don't know their playstyle well and wouldn't go as far to call it scummy, I think it's probably an indicator, and I trust Entropy's judgement.

The last thing to note is Ness going as far as to "vote" for Tardis, which seems pretty bizarre and extreme so early.

Honestly, this post is one of the most telling I have read in this game so far. It is the embodiment of basically everything I mentioned in my first few paragraphs, specifically the lazy mafia post-style that?s filled with hollow reads. The first line is a nice way of making an excuse for him not having anything new or useful to say throughout the rest of his post.

The second paragraph is a quite blatant way to say ?I?m sheeping Entropy and it?s all good dw about it? and these two sentences are unbelievably contradicting:

although I don't know their playstyle well and wouldn't go as far to call it scummy, I think it's probably an indicator,

I would have actually admired you if you just admitted to sheeping the oak read, and I would have been likelier to ignore this whole thing if I did not realize that he actually piggybacked Entropy for everything you wrote in this post.

The Minties push that Entropy made here:

u know whats weirder? u going after tardis

was actually 10 posts away from Ashtot?s post.

If you?re actually town here, Ashtot, then you?re playing EXTREMELY detrimentally by not forming your own opinions on Oak. Part of the reason I?m this critical is that Ashtot is more than aware that sheeping players can destroy town. Because that?s how we won in Xenoblade, so if anything he would be hyper-aware and not want to blindly sheep anyone, regardless of their past games. What?s almost weirder is that Entropy seemingly ignores Ashtot, which makes me quite uneasy with their interaction of each other. Him trying to placate or siding with Entropy makes me scumread him pretty strongly. There isn?t really a good reason to be in this much agreement with Entropy, and the Minties and/or oak read would?ve felt more legitimate had he gone back and mentioned any other sort of reasoning against them. But he didn?t, in fact with oak he did the opposite by calling oak's posts not scummy.

That?s the other half of what makes this post seem purely lazy. A better way to describe it would be that everything he?s saying here makes it apparent that he?s unmotivated to scumhunt.

But even if I disregard that all: I have been scum with Ashtot before. He was nearly lynched twice for ****posting and reads like this in Xenoblade mafia:

Well now that we've wasted the first several hours with meaningless RQS, let's get down to the facts.

Dolby is in this game. You know what that means, right?

Dolby needs to get rekt.

Trundle is Town.

It's your typical nonchalant speaking as if what you're saying is fact and it's purpose is finding scum so you're most likely green with a slight chance of third party.

It is actually sad how just by his one post I can see that he is putting forth more effort into the wording and phrasing of his "reads" post to make it seem like he?s trying than actually putting effort forth into scumhunting.

And in reality, the one post that Ashtot made was nearly the same amount of effort and quality of his D1 in Xenoblade, but the post definitely can look like it?s contributing if you do not take any time to examine it closely. His post screams to me that he wants to make it seem like he?s trying without actually being motivated to truly try. The fact that he still is not contributing even now, as Day gets closer and closer to ending, only strengthens my thoughts on him.

I am not familiar with his town meta so I looked at a recent game, Attack on Titan, to get an idea. The way he forms reads when he's town VS. when he is not is LITERALLY night and day.

Hey everyone. I'm sorry about being inactive for the majority of yesterday. Thursdays are my busy days and I didn't have much of a chance to read the thread, but I read everything and I'm ready to be more active.

At this point, I'm a little surprised at people being suspicious of me. However, it would make sense for the people who sus me to be suspicious because of their lack of experience with me so I don't think it's that abnormal.

I'll compile my reads with the player list:

01. Alexi

I find Alexi difficult to understand because as Town they try to be helpful but are often misled or come to wrong conclusions, which isn't really that bad because they create some discussion but it doesn't lead to much. This game she seems to be tunneling me a little bit which I don't really understand. I think it's reasonable for her to be suspicious due to her not knowing my playstyle but going as far as to vote for me on day 1 doesn't make any sense. This, combined with her shady voting makes me suspicious of her, but I think it's possible that she could be Town.

02. ClamEatsCurry

03. Cory

I'm quite certain that Cory is Town due to his emotional behaviour this game as well as his authenticity when it comes to what he's been posting this game. His behaviour fits his past games as Town.

04. Cadbberry
05. Call Me Daniel

06. Jacob

I'm still suspicious of Jacob but I also find him sort of hard to read. I think Trundle's early case on him was good and needs to be considered again.

07. Entropy

Entropy is emotional and very vocal. They seem to be acting very pro-Town this game and their extreme opposition to Tom makes me believe that there was no bussing involved in their conversations. I'm very certain that Entropy is Town.

08. Bango/Crys

09. Tardis2016

I think Tardis2016 is Town. I don't know if they've been Mafia before so I have nothing to compare to but either way I'm quite certain they're Town due to their playstyle.

10. Dolby

I'm confused at Dolby so far. Even as Town he can tend to be quiet and his sudden jump on Trundle seemed odd to me. It's possible that he's trying to change the way he plays so he isn't as obvious but it doesn't seem to matter. People ignore him regardless of how obvious it is that he's scum, which makes me think that his behaviour this game is genuine, but I'm not sure. I'll be watching Dolby because he confuses me.

11. Heyden

12. taesaek

I think Trundle's post on taesaek is reasonable and for that reason I'm suspicious of them.

13. Bingo/Trundle

Trundle is basically cleared in my mind and unfortunately I was unable to give anyone my thoughts last night, which I apologize for.

14. Ashtot

I am Town.

15. Sataric

When Sataric first started pushing Trundle a bit, I was suspicious of him. I thought Trundle's alignment was easy to see for veteran players, so when Sataric first mentioned him it rose red flegs. After Sataric explained his thoughts more and his case, it seems reasonable for him to think what he thought, so I'm leaning more towards Town sided at this point, but things could change in the future. I do find that he was quick to join with Dolby which I find is odd because Sataric knows Dolby's playstyle and it didn't seem to affect him.

16. Ayaya

17. Tom - Reiner Braun (1-shot Mafia Strongman) - Lynched Day One

Unfortunately I wasn't able to say anything but I was quite certain that Tom was Mafia because of his opposition of Trundle and his conversations with Entropy. Thankfully he's dead now and it's nice that he was the Strongman.

18. Kevinnn
19. Arstotzkan
20. Wild Blue Yonder

21. Shiida

I don't think I've played with them before, but they seem to be acting pro-Town and although I'm not a fan of their posting style I think they're trying to be helpful. I think they're Town at this point.

22. Miharu

From reading the thread I've noticed that Miharu's reads don't really make any sense. I'm guessing this is due to them being unfamiliar with everyone's playstyle. I also noticed that they are reluctant to oppose anyone and when they do they often take it back. I don't know what to think of them at this point but I'll be watching them.

The players that I skipped I don't have a stance on yet. I'm unfamiliar with most of them or I just haven't seen enough of their posts or behaviour to say anything.

Sorry that this post isn't extremely insightful but these are my thoughts at this point.

Even when I take into account that these are Day Two reads, it still shows that Ashtot is more than capable of being detailed and giving contributing reads as town. It's more than obvious that he's not doing any of that now, which makes me more than confident that he is scum.


Scumlean:

Endless? controlling behavior over other players is troubling, I am not familiar with them though so I am unsure if they are this way as both alignments. Here is what I am talking about:

Given that it's common knowledge that anyone that has currency accumulation isn't the king, it's something we should definitely keep to ourselves.

f) Pronoun of choice?He/him/Lord and saviour.

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I spent some time thinking it over and I doubt Sataric's play is anything other than protown. (There isn't any real reward for scamming people out of their initial funds to lose a team member, even if they had a team set up that wouldn't lose a kp from 1 mafia death.)

That being said, Sataric, anyone that has funds to transfer is automatically not the King. Are you sure demonstrating to the mafia a reasonable number of non-kings is wise? Granted, I do think some amount of won should be pooled to take advantage of that ticket, but I don't think everyone that has won available should give it to you. I like this compromise since we get use out of your ticket, but we don't give too much information to the mafia.

I would also advise any doctor-style role to be on Sataric during the night, since killing him would remove a good amount of the won that's in the game currently. (Assuming he's town, of course.)

I bolded what really stands out to me. When he is questioned about the statement about Sataric:

At no point in my post did I townread Sataric, sorry if I wasn't clear on what I said.

I said that I couldn't see the move he was making as a mafia play, hence I didn't see a reason to not go through with it. (With the amendments I suggested.)

I didn't ask the doctor to be on him because I thought he was town, that request was under the premise that he would be given (some amount of) won today, and it would be logical to not risk (in the event that he was town) mafia being able to kill him and remove that won from the game. (Hence the "if he is town" portion on the end of that comment.

The second paragraph just makes me feel so uncomfortable, I don?t know if its the over-explaining in excessive parentheses or the tone of over-justification that bothers me the most. While it's not exactly overdefensive, it's just extremely odd to me the way that he explains himself here.

About the doctor save part: I have seen scum who think they?re being subtle try statements like this one to attempt to direct newer players who to save so that they know who not to hit. Sataric should be an obvious person for a doctor to consider saving, regardless if they have our won or not because of their coupon. So why are you retracting your statement in the first place because it?s not ?relevant?? It partially is relevant, mafia has motivation to remove Sataric just because of the coupon. When Endless took back what he said because of the notion of a thief and since won is transferrable whenever, it felt like he was appeasing to everyone. Because Sataric is still important to us, and should be a consideration for a doc save.

Further, when you explicitly outline directions for a doctor, it can actually hinder more than help if you make it seem like they are the only right choice. Less experienced players can be tempted to think that what others say are the only options, and mafias goal is to hit the players that are not likely to be saved in order to maximize their KP. KP is still worth more than a coupon, and it would be a risk to hit Sataric, so more experienced doctors can opt to save someone else under the assumption that mafia do not want to risk it.

How are you an experienced player that doesn't know that, Endless? I don't want your answer to include how what you were saying isn?t relevant anymore- because it is to me. It's relevant in the sense that you should know outlining night actions is a terrible idea when you do not present all the options.

This is the other red flag that Endless raised:

Oh, and tui, try to avoid using meta unless there's at least 2 - although preferably more - games backing the line of reasoning up. The only time meta is useful in a single case scenario is where someone is scumreading something they themselves did as town, in which case it's not only sufficient evidence, but it's strong evidence that they themselves aren't town.

It made me more than annoyed with how tui seemed to just comply and accept it. I strongly disagree with what Endless is saying: meta is relevant, especially if it?s recent. Meta-analysis is always relevant when the context makes it so, it does not matter if it?s only one game. I especially find myself more familiar with meta when I have interacted with that person as a certain alignment before, because I read them firsthand rather than researching them later. The newest meta is always the most relevant, because after awhile people may change their play-style: especially if they find themselves losing due to their old play-style. This goes hand-in-hand with my emphasis on not just accepting what someone says, no matter how well they phrase it.

TL;DR: The way Endless instructs people is controlling, although it is not the most noticeable, DO NOT simply just take his word for anything because this behavior is a highly influential tactic that I have seen scum use countlessly. I completely fail to see any town-motive behind any of these quotes from him.

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I am very curious to know whether this is typical of Endless or not, because I am highly wary and distrusting of these types of behavior, although they might seem subtle.

That said, I?m placing my ##VOTE: on Ashtot. TL;DR: His lack of effort and lack of motivation reminds me of when I was scum with him in Xenoblade, along with the fact that his only post is entirely piggybacking on Entropy, and even as the lynch time gets closer he has yet to make an effort.

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It's 9 am and I haven't slept. Yes, I'm aware this was a terrible life decision. My brain is completely incapable of solving simplistic maths in this state and I therefore have no idea when the day is ending. If the day ends before I have access again, it's super important that the king lynches within people with at least a reasonable amount of suspicion on them. (Right now, if I recall correctly, Kirby, Ness, Blu Rose, and Oak. I might've missed one, but you get the general drift of what I'm saying.)

If the king chooses to wildcard the mafia get a huge advantage in figuring them out.

Basically what I'm saying is that I don't want to wake up to, for example, minties having been lynched and having flipped blue, or Sataric having been lynched and flipping green. (Before someone misconstrues this line, I don't have a solid read on either of them. The point was made that king wildcarded <strong player> who flipped <town> is the undesired outcome.)

Even in the best case scenario where the king wildcards and hits a mafia, they still give mafia a huge amount of info that lets them figure the king out. Which is still disadvantageous.

That might not have made much sense since I'm practically sleep deprived at this point, but I'm reasonably certain I got the general gist of it across.

Blu Rose case has reasonable backing, it's a kinda attempting-to-look-like-you're-contributing-without-really-contributing kind of set, but I just feel like that case would be something I'd pursue if there weren't so many more interesting cases lying around.
I don't really have an opinion on the kirby fiasco. Feels like a player I'd have to read over their games and learn their playstyle to get a definitive read. They're not behaving like a rational human being, regardless of alignment.
My opinion on Ness and Oak have been made fairly clear. That being said, I'm tempted to say that if Ness doesn't post before deadline, there's no reason to lynch him. He could be genuinely unable to post, and oak is a good alternate lynch with little chance at redemption.

This is EXACTLY the type of control that I do not like you trying to take.

In all reality, in this setup the King does not have to lynch the person that the majority agrees on, because that majority can possibly be due to the fact that scum is all agreeing on that person. And the King most definitely does not have to pick from a list given from anyone. The only benefit I see from that is that asking for a claim will be easy. It is extremely important that the King uses their best judgement.

I understand if you cannot reply to my suspicions on you, but what is your opinion on Ashtot?
 
Decided to throw in one last post before I go (back) to sleep, and it's time to 'throw some shade' at people:

@ Daniel - You're friggin' doing it again! Reading your latest post, I've got to be honest with you and say that it just has scummy vibes smeared all over it. Some of the other players already posted a few of the reasons they felt similarly about it, but in truth the whole post feels highly suspect. If you are town, like you were in Attack on Titan, you need to step up. I get that you're busy with work and such but contributing more is not so much about making a million posts as it is about sharing genuine opinions on things that others feel are trustworthy. You're not doing that right now.

@ Kirby - You keep ignoring questions that are being repeated to you over and over again, yet you still reply to the thread. Any specific reason for that? It doesn't make you look good.

@ Ness - You're still MIA. I hope that this is not some kind of "new playstyle" but that you are simply busy.

@ Miharu - Last game you came across as genuinely innocent, even when you made mistakes, voted for the benefit of the Mafia on crucial lynches, and defended the wrong people. There was just a certain honesty to the way you acted that was incredibly hard to deny or ignore. This game, I'm really not seeing it, and it feels like you're hiding your true intentions somewhere between your bubbly personality and how incredibly 'moe' you are.

@ Tui - You're playing well so far, and I'm impressed, and hope you stay on the same path. That said, anyone who has you "townlocked" on day 1 is foolish or doesn't understand what townlocked actually mean.

@ Everyone who isn't using the "purple votes" system - What have you got to hide? Don't want it put on the record whom you're the most suspicious of, so we can use this information to town's advantage at a later date in the game? Your behavior is greatly frowned up.

@ Xine - I've never played with you before but I've heard rumors of your greatness, yet in this game thus far you haven't started playing yet. Maybe there's a very good reason for that (you mentioned bad internet access) but I'm still hoping you show up and thrash through this thread like a hurricane at one point or another.
Before-posting-edit: Ah, seems you just posted! Looking forward to reading it.

Overall I feel like there's a huge amount of anti-town behavior, red flags, and general avoidance of answering important questions or sharing your views and opinions on things. Also, I'd like to switch my unofficial vote to ##VOTE:Kirby because although Ness is still incredibly suspect he might be genuinely busy, whilst Kirby has been present in the thread a ton and yet doesn't seem to be able to defuse any suspicion I have of him.
 
Probably of how I need to defend myself 10x as much as I thought I would have because of one reaction to one post.

Of course I haven't read EVERY SINGLE POST, but I have read most of them, and my claim of suspicion towards you remains the same. It's still only the first half of Day 1 mind you, so my suspicions are still brewing. I will most likely have more solid suspicions of other once Day 2 rolls around. But for now, you seem the scummiest so far due to the large amount of evidence that claims you being scum. I, personally, haven't really seen enough evidence to largely suspect anyone else yet.
xD When I think about it now after this post, it feels like your reaction to Entropy's post definitely seemed like you were worried that we found out that you were mafia. When I asked why did you ask what you missed when you said you were caught up, you said that after posting, you went to catch up on the thread. The timestamp was 7mins, and now you said you haven't read everything. It seems like you were rushing through the thread to see if anyone posted anything of evidence that said you were mafia. You didn't need to worry about Entropy's post if you are town. xD

Day ends in like 3 hours. People have decided to the fake purple voting thing. No one but the king knows who will be lynched. My question is that should the person with the most purple votes claim before day ends or not. I've never played a set up like this on forum mafia so I was wondering if the roleclaiming at the end of the day when you have the most votes a thing or not? Do you think it's should be done? I'm don't want to have a mislynch but at the same time it's up to the king do anything could happen. Ty if you answer this.
At first I thought it was a great idea that Sat brought forward, but now that I'm thinking more about it, I feel like it's a double edged sword. The player with the most purple vote claiming works the same way as when we use an open voting thread. The only difference is (that tui pointed out) is the fact that we don't know if the leader will think the same way as us or whether or not they even plan on lynching the people we have out as suspicious. If the person with the most purple votes ends up claiming (and we end up switching our purple votes to the next suspicious person and they end up claiming as well on the same day and so on..) and if the leader ends up choosing to lynch someone who wasn't on our radar yet, then that'll make it easier for Mafia to hunt down our PRs ;__; I definitely don't want to mislynch again, but as of right now, our votes means nothing if the leader isn't thinking the same as us. If he/she is, then I think this would work in our favor. cx

Sorry I missed your questions sometimes I miss afew posts while reading I'm caught up on this thread. As for my read on Crys I'm scumlean them. It isn't a case on Minties but afew posts feel odd and her tone.

Could you explain why Minties's posts feel forced then? xD
 
Decided to throw in one last post before I go (back) to sleep, and it's time to 'throw some shade' at people:

@ Daniel - You're friggin' doing it again! Reading your latest post, I've got to be honest with you and say that it just has scummy vibes smeared all over it. Some of the other players already posted a few of the reasons they felt similarly about it, but in truth the whole post feels highly suspect. If you are town, like you were in Attack on Titan, you need to step up. I get that you're busy with work and such but contributing more is not so much about making a million posts as it is about sharing genuine opinions on things that others feel are trustworthy. You're not doing that right now.

@ Kirby - You keep ignoring questions that are being repeated to you over and over again, yet you still reply to the thread. Any specific reason for that? It doesn't make you look good.

@ Ness - You're still MIA. I hope that this is not some kind of "new playstyle" but that you are simply busy.

@ Miharu - Last game you came across as genuinely innocent, even when you made mistakes, voted for the benefit of the Mafia on crucial lynches, and defended the wrong people. There was just a certain honesty to the way you acted that was incredibly hard to deny or ignore. This game, I'm really not seeing it, and it feels like you're hiding your true intentions somewhere between your bubbly personality and how incredibly 'moe' you are.

@ Tui - You're playing well so far, and I'm impressed, and hope you stay on the same path. That said, anyone who has you "townlocked" on day 1 is foolish or doesn't understand what townlocked actually mean.

@ Everyone who isn't using the "purple votes" system - What have you got to hide? Don't want it put on the record whom you're the most suspicious of, so we can use this information to town's advantage at a later date in the game? Your behavior is greatly frowned up.

@ Xine - I've never played with you before but I've heard rumors of your greatness, yet in this game thus far you haven't started playing yet. Maybe there's a very good reason for that (you mentioned bad internet access) but I'm still hoping you show up and thrash through this thread like a hurricane at one point or another.
Before-posting-edit: Ah, seems you just posted! Looking forward to reading it.

Overall I feel like there's a huge amount of anti-town behavior, red flags, and general avoidance of answering important questions or sharing your views and opinions on things. Also, I'd like to switch my unofficial vote to ##VOTE:Kirby because although Ness is still incredibly suspect he might be genuinely busy, whilst Kirby has been present in the thread a ton and yet doesn't seem to be able to defuse any suspicion I have of him.

Sorry I have been ignoring the questions sent to me sometimes I miss them or it takes time for me to answer them.

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xD When I think about it now after this post, it feels like your reaction to Entropy's post definitely seemed like you were worried that we found out that you were mafia. When I asked why did you ask what you missed when you said you were caught up, you said that after posting, you went to catch up on the thread. The timestamp was 7mins, and now you said you haven't read everything. It seems like you were rushing through the thread to see if anyone posted anything of evidence that said you were mafia. You didn't need to worry about Entropy's post if you are town. xD


At first I thought it was a great idea that Sat brought forward, but now that I'm thinking more about it, I feel like it's a double edged sword. The player with the most purple vote claiming works the same way as when we use an open voting thread. The only difference is (that tui pointed out) is the fact that we don't know if the leader will think the same way as us or whether or not they even plan on lynching the people we have out as suspicious. If the person with the most purple votes ends up claiming (and we end up switching our purple votes to the next suspicious person and they end up claiming as well on the same day and so on..) and if the leader ends up choosing to lynch someone who wasn't on our radar yet, then that'll make it easier for Mafia to hunt down our PRs ;__; I definitely don't want to mislynch again, but as of right now, our votes means nothing if the leader isn't thinking the same as us. If he/she is, then I think this would work in our favor. cx



Could you explain why Minties's posts feel forced then? xD

Minties tone feels weird to me I'll explain just need to find the posts.
 
i was really suspicious of bluepikachu at first simply because of her interaction with m3ow but then i did the thing again where i started a case on her and as i went through i was like ok well maybe im wrong. to me she seems genuine as of now. so i'm townleaning her.

if i had to vote right i would probably vote for tardis, but honestly i dont think what hes done is completely enough to label him as scum and suggest a lynch on him. its enough for him to get noticed at best, but again, not deserving of a lynch.

for miharu im stuck between either town or third party.

i feel like scum in this game is hiding in experienced players, which im not ready to approach yet mainly cuz i dont wanna get rekt with the little information i have so far due to the fact that this is only day 1. my reasons for that being that the only scumvibes ive picked up so far are from newer players and like i said, what theyve done is nothing substantial. so i figure, there must be someone im too nooby to pick up on.

someone i am still wary of is ness, and its basically for the same reasons just about everyone who suses him has posted. if ness were to post some more i might change my vote from tardis to ness, depending on what he posts of course.

so, ##VOTE: Kirbystarship
 
At first I thought it was a great idea that Sat brought forward, but now that I'm thinking more about it, I feel like it's a double edged sword. The player with the most purple vote claiming works the same way as when we use an open voting thread. The only difference is (that tui pointed out) is the fact that we don't know if the leader will think the same way as us or whether or not they even plan on lynching the people we have out as suspicious. If the person with the most purple votes ends up claiming (and we end up switching our purple votes to the next suspicious person and they end up claiming as well on the same day and so on..) and if the leader ends up choosing to lynch someone who wasn't on our radar yet, then that'll make it easier for Mafia to hunt down our PRs ;__; I definitely don't want to mislynch again, but as of right now, our votes means nothing if the leader isn't thinking the same as us. If he/she is, then I think this would work in our favor. cx

Not sure if this is a genuine opinion or if you're fishing for someone to step in and say "I think the idea is good/bad!" in order to potentially find the Eternal leader for your scum team. Therefore, I urge everybody to proceed with caution if responding to this. I can safely say that if there's an overwhelming number of 'purple votes' cast onto a person, and you're actually town, just friggin' claim - Better safe than sorry. Just because your role has been outed that doesn't mean you will be the first one killed - Look at Trundle in Attack on Titan, claiming Jack of all Trades (Extremely powerful role) on Day 1 and then still proceeding to kick ass.

Of course, since currently everyone's being too busy to use the 'purple votes' anyways - Despite me, Minties, Endless and now Xine (players people tend to label as 'good') all agreeing it's a bloody good idea - One could argue that with only 3 or 4 purple votes cast onto you in a game of literally 23 participants isn't enough to warrant a claim, but even so I hope this stupidity will end by day 2 at the latest.

@ Xine - Thank you for your post. Endless always is rather controlling in his ways regardless of alignment but I have noted the things you pointed out as well. Maybe all the people he mentioned are actually innocent and that's why he really urges the Eternal leader to go after one of them. As for Ashtot, I can very rarely read him correctly on day 1, so I more or less always think he's scummy even if he later flips town unfortunately.

Going to sleep now. Please don't murder me before I wake up again. Thanks.
 
@ Miharu - Last game you came across as genuinely innocent, even when you made mistakes, voted for the benefit of the Mafia on crucial lynches, and defended the wrong people. There was just a certain honesty to the way you acted that was incredibly hard to deny or ignore. This game, I'm really not seeing it, and it feels like you're hiding your true intentions somewhere between your bubbly personality and how incredibly 'moe' you are.
Are you talking about last recent Newbie game hosted by Jacob and Crys? o: Or the first game I ever played with you (Attack on Titan). XD Could you also show me a post where you think I'm trying to hide my true intentions? o: I think the only difference from my playstyle now is that I'm able to ask questions early on to help us in the long run since I understand the game more instead of being confused of what is going on and what I was suppose to do during my first mafia game with you xD and omg "moe" LOL
Sorry I have been ignoring the questions sent to me sometimes I miss them or it takes time for me to answer them.

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Minties tone feels weird to me I'll explain just need to find the posts.
Why did you not post your explanation as to why you thought Minties's posts was forced until I reminded/asked you to? o:
 
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