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Mafia TBT Mafia ~ The Binding of Isaac ~ Town Wins!

if minties gave the bomb to Jacob, she couldn't have visited me and i didn't kill her. It's an extra kill if we assume Jacob is telling the truth

oh THANKS !!! @Crys

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if minties gave the bomb to Jacob, she couldn't have visited me and i didn't kill her. It's an extra kill if we assume Jacob is telling the truth

@Crys
so you said you were unsure about Jacob a little earlier...

I feel unsure of Jacob and have been recently thinking that dough may be scum

but how can you be unsure about him if you are telling the truth? then that would make it 100% positive that he is lying ?
 
Me - Victim
Dough - Madgelence
Cry - Judas
Oath - Samson
Jacob - Guppy the Cat
Cory - Victim
M3ow - ???
Mother - ???
Alexi - ???
 
oh THANKS !!! @Crys

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@Crys
so you said you were unsure about Jacob a little earlier...



but how can you be unsure about him if you are telling the truth? then that would make it 100% positive that he is lying ?
i was explaining oaths thinking.

Personally I think minties kept the bomb, thinking she'd be protected and then insepected me; Jacob is lying.
 
but if you think he's lying then why did you null read him when i asked ?
did i say null? I said unsure bc it's what i personally think vs what really happened. I don't really know what happened night 2. I could be wrong, and there could be an extra missing kill uncounted for. I'm unsure bc any of these scenarios, including mine could have happened and all of the decide if Jacob is town or not. Think of this makes me unsure.
 
alright I'm not home + posting from my phone rn so bear w/ me

soooo first of all, last nights deaths kind of confuse me

*Luca shot by Oath
* Ayaya shot by mafia? Bombed by Minties?
* Daniel suicided because of the book
*Minties bombed? Hit by mafia/third party? This is the part that confuses me.

Jacob has claimed Guppy the Cat and also claimed that he was bombed by Minties... But the thing is, Minties was REALLY suspicious of Ayaya cause her posts weren't fitting her town meta at all... In fact, Minties first full analysis on the game during D1 was being sus of Ayaya (along with Lucanosa). And then she mentioned this when she said goodbye:

**** you guys.

Listen town, READ EVERYTHING THE DEAD SAID OR IT'S GG. META IS REAL. Don't be afk and lose this ****.

K bye.

and then this:

LOL the cat with two night lives? Yah I think you mucked up that claim by accident. It's not like you can't read or anything, so clearly you'd see the description on the chocolate milk and that's it's essentially a roleblock item that can save someone. You've played mafia before, so you know you usually cannot take back actions because the host wants you to put in thought before you make them.

Can anyone else counter-claim having the chocolate milk?

I also liked the hypocrisy in this post:

[Post from Ayaya was quoted here]

Meow and I have actually done something in this game, what have you done? You're one of my top scum reads because you're playing so far away from meta that it's not even funny.

Oath - Please do not shoot Jacob, he can probably be lynched tomorrow based on the current claiming mess up. If he actually used the milk, then you'd be block anyways.

Called out Ayaya. Then asked Oath NOT to shoot Jacob?

This is why I have a feeling Minties might have bombed Ayaya... and because of his mistake about his role he's saying that he was so that he would be cleared. But I'm not sure, Minties might have wanted to test Jacobs claim. Tbh i wish she would have said who she was bombing, or at least said two people she was deciding between because that would've helped clear things up.... because I really cannot tell if Jacob is telling the truth and made a genuine mistake about his role, or if he actually slipped there. But Minties seemed pretty convinced it was a slip.

I'm pretty sure either Crys or Jacob are lying. I don't know which though, and it could be both as well?? They've had little interaction almost the entire game so it's hard to read that part, but maybe that's why they avoid reading each other? However we do know that the Bloat isn't in this game, so that makes me slightly less sus of Jacob but then there's stuff like this

Things about Jacob that feel off to me:

daniel ur saying oath should shoot:

Panda
Jacob
Ayaya

because "They?re not leading town, so what?s there to lose?"

but at the same time :
"Mother of Llamas- Is the only inactive left that barely survived by voting Trundle. Hasn't voiced any opinions at all."


Also, you base most people off of previous games? like M3ow_ ?
maybe she's good enough to pretend like shes town????

you are pushing some people harder than others imo dan. sounds pretty biased to me.

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also oath u can try shooting me if u want, wont work tho!


*His roleclaim timing. Why on earth would you say that you're bulletproof/veteran without being explicitly threatened to be lynched/shot?? He could have baited himself so that mafia wasted a shot... instead he felt easily threatened by Daniel saying he should be shot. when he could have just said something like "don't waste your shot on me" and suggested better people to shoot

In Papers Please mafia he messed up his roleclaim as scum by accidentally claiming Minties role. and he confused his role description up this game.

his posts are actually pretty similar to the ones he made in that game.

From Papers Please:

ok last post haha

They both seem pretty town to me.
when Doughssant is mafia he usually puts more effort into the game iirc
I have never played with Minties, but I can tell when people get suspicious of her she grows a little frustrated, that might just be her play style, but it could also be because she doesnt want anyone to mislynch her. Again, idk cuz ive never played with her.
People mention that she could be using this as a strategy to make us think she's town (worked for me!) so we'll have to see what she's like in the days to come honestly. (I am actually relying on the more skilled players like you to break down her behavorial pattern this game for me as the game progresses- she is very smart
if you guys see something that I don't, please don't let my read stop you from voting either of these 2 haha)

smart and easy lynch. Ender is a good player im assuming so it shouldnt be that hard to take out the rest of mafia with him gone

also


if this theory is correct, we should probably keep a little closer eye on Zoolka's posts tomorrow

I have never played with Crys before. Interested to see their playing style differs or relates to Dough/haydenn's. Dough is also typically random and hard to read (though he seemed to be playing a tad more serious this game...), so if him/Crys is red, we could potentially be able to catch that easier than Dough

this game:

hes trying to be unpredictable #randomxd

getting a read on dough is tough, you will learn that about him eventually

based off of this playstyle and amount of posting he's doing compared to previous games, it wouldnt surprise me if dough was third party.

also excited to see the reads on trundle and how he responds to them

@ m3ew

ive given my thoughts on dough already but the way trundle isnt doing much but openly mentioning people names (like u mentioned) and only just started getting serious / a little defensive when minties said she didnt town read him doesnt sit with me very well, as he did the same exact tactic in papers please. Now im not saying im scum reading Minties rn but trundle certainly is the kind of player who would throw a fellow scum team mate under the bus when he is called out, so the way he just came back to minties like 'oh well yea im not scum u are' makes me think that they could possibly both be scum. (same thing happened when he tried to desperately make everyone vote me instead of him when he was set for lynch.)

now those are my thoughts right now for him, but of course my theory could easily be flawed. Thats why im scum reading trundle and null reading minties. still waiting to hear what she has to say about trundle

Sure,

1. Dough = You say meta is very important, I have posted before a whiiile back my reads on his meta and how it is similar to last games he was town in. Plus he even was smart enough to continue reading me as town. With the sus activity i have been posting, it would only be logical for a scum member to go along with me being an easy scum target.
2. Ayaya = I have very similar reads as she posted a couple posts back. M3ow_ possible 3rd party, Minties possible Maf for the reasons stated. I'm not as sus of Minties tho for the reason she begging to be saved. I don't think she would be so desparate to stay alive, if she was maf, she would fight even harder to stay alive.
3. M3ow_ = Reasons stated by Ayaya.

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EBWOP again:

Dough
Ayaya
M3ow_

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For the 5th time, it was sheer confusion. I thought I had it figured out but I didn't.

That second quote reminds me exactly of Papers Please. long paragraphs kinda sorta saying people are sus and then ending it like "idk tho I could be wrong" because he doesn't want to say the wrong thing for when/if they flip town

The second one is just contradicting entirely. He said he thought dough was possible 3rd party and now he townreads him. not saying that this change in opinion is sus, but the fact that he said that he townread him earlier in the game when he actually didn't, is. He townread Dough when Dough townread him, which just makes me feel like he's trying to get on someone's good side. So unless he explains the reasoning behind his shift then this change of opinion for seemingly no reason is really weird to me.

He also town read Minties for making cases then asking to be saved... when I did the exact same thing, I've been making cases and I also asked to be saved when I lynched Ness. But somehow that makes me 3rd party and Minties town.

Also now Dough has claimed blue... so we have 7 blue roles in the game apparently (counting the three dead)... which I'm not sure how likely that is, given that there's two scum teams.

THIS WAS A PAIN TO TYPE UP. I need a break and I'll continue with my thoughts on Crys, Panda & Cory

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I'm a victim btw

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I'm a victim btw
 
i'm less reluctant to vote Jacob now tbh, I feel like Crys could be lying, I'll vot before I got to bed bc deadline is at 6am my time lol

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we get told if a team is eradicated right?
 
The information i was able to gather and the sense im trying to make of it all.

First things first...

People whom are still alive and the roles/actions they've claimed.
1. Dough - Madgelence Protected: N-Ayaya N2-No One.
2. Panda (me) - Victim i've had no items/actions (that i know of) on me the whole game so far)
3. Alexi - ?
4. Oath - Samson Shoot: N1-Rune N2-Lucas Stabbed: D2-Dolby Item stolen N2.
5. Mother - ?
6. M3ow - Victim
7. Jacob - Guppy Extra Night Life used N2 from Bomb passed by Minites
8. Cory - Victim
9. Crys - Judas Used Belial N2

Scum left in the game...:
Gemini has a twin that takes on any action placed on them. (interesting)
Loki can steal an item once per game.

Sloth can give items at night or mind control a targeted player to use there action (if any) on a different targeted player.

(thank you again Daniel.)

All players and roles in game... (supposedly)

Mafia:
1.Mom-Dolby
2.Chub-Ness
4.Gemini-?
3.Loki-?

Third Party:
1.Pride-Trundle
2.Envy-Iggy
3.Greed-Ayaya
4.Sloth-?

Town:(remember 3 of these people don't belong here)
1.Daniel-Victim
2.Saraskat-Isaac
3.Minites-Beggar
4.Rune-Blue Baby
5.Luca-Victim
6.Trojan-Victim
7.Stardusk-Victim
8.Beardo-Victim
(the above are confirmed by death)
9.Panda(me)-Victim
10.Oath-Samson
11.Dough-Madgelence
12.Meow-Victim
13.Cory-Victim
14.Crys-Judas
15.Jacob-Guppy
16.Alexi-?
17.Mother-?

Votes from D1 & D2
(i don't know how helpful this will be cause of how everyone voted Trundle D2 but here it is... i put us in order first to last which of us voted for Trundle and then specified who our D1 lynch vote was)

1.Dough D1-Ness
2.Jacob D1-Ness
3.Panda(me) D1-Ness
4.Crys D1-No Vote
5.Oath D1-Daniel
6.Cory D1-Luca
7.Alexi D1-Ness
8.M3ow D1-Ness
9.Mother D1-No Vote

Now...

The kills from last night... (confusing)
Daniel - Suicide
Luca - killed by Oath?
Minites - killed by Mafia/Thirs Party? or Bomb? or Crys/Belial?
Ayaya - killed by Bomb? or Mafia?

Things to note...

Jacob claims to lose extra life from bomb passed by Minites[/COLOR.]
Jacob claims to have the Chocolate Milk and not used it or passed it on. (after canceling it)
Mother very inactive and votes to not get modkilled.
Alexi new to mafia but seems pretty comfortable with the game.
Crys and Jacob have null read each other the whole game. (even though one or both of them is lying)

Theory?

- What if Minites passed the bomb to the Gemini and Minites was Gemini's twin and then just pretty much bombed herself? (i know the flavor says, turned into edible art for blood thirsty monsters, but i don't know what that means if anything could just be flavor) and if she passed it to Jacob or Crys and it didnt kill him/her cause he/she is Gemini and it went back to Minites his/her twin (possibly) then maybe thats why he/she is lying? (i know its confusing, im just trying to work out how the Gemini role would work cause we haven't heard much about anything weird going on with there being a twin yet in the game.)

this took me awhile im hoping it will help us find scum... ill try to pull some quotes and get some reads together before day ends. thanks for reading.

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a few typos, sorry.. tried my best to organize it all.

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placing my vote on Jacob as of right now, ill make sure i set an alarm before Day ends to see the progress and change my vote if need be.
 
really sucks that Isaac is dead since he is so op in a game with a lot of op roles.

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Didn't mean to quote myself

Let's just start off with why this looks weird. To me this just looks like he's passively trying to appear town. Looks to me like "oh no we lost a blue :(" when in reality he couldn't care less that the most powerful blue is dead. The wording is weird. Who actually complains about "op roles" as town?

the most optimal way to use the dagger is on mom/gluttony/bloat if we get any of them it will be great

Seems weird. Stating the obvious in an effort to appear as town more.

Ok i am back home. The people that got the most mad at Ness posting were Daniel and panda. Why would they be mad you ask? because they dont want ness talking anymore because they may reveal info. I'm not saying they are scum or anything, but it raises some red flags.

He posts a very weak read here.

Ok thanks you for this tldr. I'll make my own opinion later. When I'm done taking a practice ACT test :lemon:

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Also I'm going to see who did not post yet in this day cycle and one of those people have the dagger

Here you can see Cory doing what scum across the board has done this game. Ness and Ayaya have both avoided making reads, saying they'll "get it to it later". Spoiler alert: Cory never ends up making his reads.

And since Cory is a replacement, I have to bring up the sins of Soda Fox.

Hi everyone! I look forward to playing with you. I'm new to this so would anyone mind explaining what this means?



I looked at the roles in the OP and didn't see anything mentioning a keeper.

I've also told the person who recruited me that I work a lot so I will get to post maybe twice a day tops, so I'm sorry I'm getting in so late in the action already. The game started while I was at work.

Questions for each player:
1. How are you doing today?
I'm doing alright. In training this week so it's an easy work week for me.

2. Would you prefer to play as town or scum in this game?
I'm not really sure. I'm not familiar the binding of Isaac at all. From my experience in Town of Salem the mafia is pretty good since they can talk at night and see each other's roles all the time, but I don't know how that works in forum games.

3. What will you be known for in this game?
Being the newbie I suppose.

As with most scum, said they wanted to be mafia.

PJ4.jpg


MFW I get a chance to read through and realize Trojan wasn't saying that he wasn't going to give reasoning, but that it was the reason he was voting for Lucanosa.

I was just reading quickly and wanted to get a word in, I'm sorry! I don't really want to skim but this game is moving so fast it's hard to get a word in if I don't.

I'm changing my vote to Lucanosa, mostly because he hasn't come back to say anything against all these accusations against him.

Scum has tended to want to push Lucanosa for a lynch in the game. It's a common theme.




Cory's posts just look like weak attempts to be town. I strongly suggest voting him. There's really no way to figure out the Crys and Jacob bit for the time being. It has to be Cory.
 
I don't play that game.

Scared? No. It's stupid, boring not effective

Cory doesn't want to play the mass claim game. I find it weird that Cory doesn't want to play the mass claim game in this game given that in Mini Mafia X he was in favor of it.

I'm still awake sonny boy. So, I decided that I will be claiming I am General John MacArthur if no one counter claims me (which I think will happen since there is probably only 1 vet and I'm that vet). I say I should lead town and if I get all the claims and we lynch the countered ones we can't lose.

In Mini Mafia IX he was also cool with mass claiming.

Are there any conflicting claims that are blue.

We role claiming to her now or naw?

There's no reason to be against a mass claim in this game, especially when we're this close to the end. When pressed by Jacob on why he doesn't want to claim, he gives this:

Good reasoning except for one flaw.
I'm not you.

Just that. Nothing else, just so "well I'm not you"

Villager/victim which makes me sad because I wanted to be an actual character from the game because I love this game.

He went from "I don't play that game" to claiming his role in a little over an hour. Why, you may ask? Flak from Panda and Jacob.

Oath is pretty much the only confirmed town so what Oath wants Oath gets.

Panda told Cory this line. Cory got scared and claimed.

Vote Cory 2k16.
 
@Panda- I'm a victim.

Anyways, I'm gonna have to agree with Oath. My views don't change on mother of all llamas, but if we're really going to decide between Cory, Crys, and/or Jacob, Cory is the most suspicious out of all of them. I don't think Jacob is scum, and I'm really undecided on Crys atm.
 
very flimsy case oath! i dont expect that from you. you shouldnt use a game from over a year ago to have a reason to vote for me

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ill vote for jacob because meow has a strong case

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Also saying "**** it I don't care" when voting for me don't help ur case that much.

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You know I always say I'll make reads and I never do as town also right?

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And I begrudgingly decided to role claim because if I didn't I would have been voted for. But it seems I already am.
 
Why were you so afraid of looking suspicious if you were just a townie.

You're scum Cory

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Bandwagoning Jacob. Telling me I can't use your meta then citing your meta as a defense. You are scum.
 
What does meta mean?

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Because this is exactly what happens when we play the role game. Innocent victims get lynched. One of the blue is scum.
Am I mistaken in that minties counter claimed the chocolate milk?

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I'm mistaken about minties ccing the chocolate milk. She just said Jacob mucked his claim up
 
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