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If you are refering to "Harry"s death, I do believe he was killed by an Alien, so would you like to elaborate on that..?

I posted after day 2 or 3 or whatever that I was certain that Harry was scum, due to chat logs the actions prior, and his general behaviour in the game. It was ignored by pretty much everyone but we knew he was scum.
 
I wanted to write up a post about Yui Z and why I believe she is scum, but this turned out to possibly be something a bit bigger.

The people on the top of my suspicion list right now are AndyB, Yui Z, and Sataric.

Now about Yui Z. I had stated on day 1 that I believed that Mew had softclaimed blue (which was extremely obvious), and again on day 2, yet during Yui Z (as an XCOM Heavy) shot Mew anyway. I had a couple conversations with her about why she did what she did and other things as well.

Me and Yui Z

[13:15] <Ashtot> hi
[13:17] <Yui-Z> Hey, what's up?
[13:17] <Ashtot> what are your thoughts about sataric and oath
[13:18] <Yui-Z> Hmm, well I'm kind of torn between the two. In fact, I was starting to find them both suspicious
[13:18] <Ashtot> i believe sataric
[13:18] <Yui-Z> Oath is begging to be inspected, which I find scummy
[13:18] <Ashtot> and im not sure about oath but he is acting strange
[13:18] <Yui-Z> Maybe Oath is the Godfather
[13:19] <Yui-Z> And that's why he wants an inspection.
[13:19] <Ashtot> maybe
[13:19] <Ashtot> who did you use your action on each night or whatever?
[13:19] <Ashtot> you're supressor right?
[13:20] <Yui-Z> XCOM Heavy, yeah
[13:20] <Yui-Z> I can only use my action once
[13:20] <Ashtot> did you use it yet?
[13:20] <Yui-Z> I used it on Mew
[13:20] <Ashtot> oh yeah okay
[13:20] <Ashtot> i forgot
[13:21] <Yui-Z> Sat is probably more likely to be town, I mean, he claims to be in contact with the DT and another blue which I forgot
[13:21] <Yui-Z> Those blue roles haven't died yet either

The second I find much more interesting:

[12:04] <Ashtot> why did you kill mew
[12:05] <Yui-Z> Why are you asking me this now? It's done. You know the reason I killed mew
[12:08] <Ashtot> but why take that risk?>
[12:08] <Ashtot> it doesnt seem like you
[12:08] <Ashtot> especially since you only have 1 shot
[12:08] <Yui-Z> I was so certain that she was scum.
[12:08] <Yui-Z> If this isn't me, then I don't know what is.
[12:09] <Ashtot> but i even said
[12:09] <Ashtot> like why would she claim scum in the thread
[12:09] <Ashtot> that makes no sense
[12:09] <Yui-Z> I sent the action in at beginning of night. I wouldn't have predicted the future
[12:09] <Ashtot> scum wouldnt claim blue or a pr in the thread
[12:09] <Ashtot> ?
[12:10] <Yui-Z> What?
[12:10] <Ashtot> what do you mean you couldn't predict the future
[12:10] <Yui-Z> I mean, I can't change my action once I've sent it
[12:11] <Yui-Z> and you pointed it out afterwards
[12:11] <Ashtot> no
[12:11] <Ashtot> i pointed it out on day 1
[12:11] <Yui-Z> It still seemed scummy of her, which is why I went for the kill
[12:11] <Ashtot> i pointed it out again later
[12:11] <Yui-Z> Everyone I spoke to agreed anyway
[12:11] <Ashtot> who did you speak to?
[12:11] <Yui-Z> Sat and a few others
[12:11] <Yui-Z> This was afterwards^
[12:11] <Ashtot> who are the few others?
[12:12] <Yui-Z> The few others? Andy and Sat. Oops, that's not a few.
[12:12] <Yui-Z> Make that a couple of others.

As you can see, she tries to use the excuse that I hadn't pointed it out until after she had sent in her action, and eventually just falls back on her being "scummy". She pointed out that a few others agreed with her, and wanting to know more, I asked. AndyB and Sataric just happened to be the people who told Yui Z to make that shot and kill Mew, which I find very interesting, because I talked with AndyB about Mew's softclaim and he seemed to agree. Why exactly would he tell Yui Z to kill her then?

Also note that AndyB and Yui Z both voted for Moron over CookingOkasan. Now as for Sataric, he was behind Mew being killed, but what stands out to me the most, is the fact that he wasn't killed tonight. I would think that mafia would do anything in their power to get him killed, but they didn't. And then there's the fact that he just happened to change from protecting himself to killing NikkiNikki. I'm betting he's scum, and claimed as a Jack simply because he could and knew that the DT he's in contact with trusted him enough to not inspect him. I could be way off here, but this is just what I think right now.

Me and AndyB

[13:15] <AndyB> Hey
[13:15] <Ashtot> what
[13:16] <AndyB> Excuse me?
[13:16] <Ashtot> sorry
[13:16] <Ashtot> i meant whtas up
[13:17] <AndyB> Haha, it's fine. Nothing, really... lazy day, feel bleh.
[13:17] <AndyB> You?
[13:18] <AndyB> What's the plan amigo?
[13:18] <Ashtot> I dunno
[13:19] <AndyB> I don't like how both Tom and Oath essentially called me out for voting Moron over Okasan.
[13:20] <Ashtot> Well I don't really understand why you did
[13:20] <Ashtot> l,ike whats the point
[13:20] <Ashtot> seems scummy
[13:20] <AndyB> As I said in the thread, it's more of a damn lead than "let's point at someone random and hope they flip red"
[13:20] <AndyB> Like has happened and doesn't ever bloody work.
[13:20] <Ashtot> but he admitted red and there was decent evidence
[13:20] <AndyB> And Okasan was dying anyway.
[13:20] <Ashtot> and he flipped red
[13:21] <AndyB> Yeah, and even if I changed my vote or not he was dying.
[13:22] <AndyB> I mean, if you want to check me, shoot me tonight, then go ahead.
[13:22] <Ashtot> I'm not saying that
[13:22] <Ashtot> chill out
[13:22] <Ashtot> just didnt understand why
[13:22] <AndyB> YuiZ did too, and we know she's Heavy.
[13:22] <AndyB> Do we know who the DT is yet?
[13:23] <AndyB> Or is it still a fart in the wind rumour?
[13:23] <Ashtot> still dont know

He got a bit defensive over nothing which I found a bit strange.

Another person on my mind is oath but I honestly don't know about him.
 
I wanted to write up a post about Yui Z and why I believe she is scum, but this turned out to possibly be something a bit bigger.

The people on the top of my suspicion list right now are AndyB, Yui Z, and Sataric.

Now about Yui Z. I had stated on day 1 that I believed that Mew had softclaimed blue (which was extremely obvious), and again on day 2, yet during Yui Z (as an XCOM Heavy) shot Mew anyway. I had a couple conversations with her about why she did what she did and other things as well.

Me and Yui Z

[13:15] <Ashtot> hi
[13:17] <Yui-Z> Hey, what's up?
[13:17] <Ashtot> what are your thoughts about sataric and oath
[13:18] <Yui-Z> Hmm, well I'm kind of torn between the two. In fact, I was starting to find them both suspicious
[13:18] <Ashtot> i believe sataric
[13:18] <Yui-Z> Oath is begging to be inspected, which I find scummy
[13:18] <Ashtot> and im not sure about oath but he is acting strange
[13:18] <Yui-Z> Maybe Oath is the Godfather
[13:19] <Yui-Z> And that's why he wants an inspection.
[13:19] <Ashtot> maybe
[13:19] <Ashtot> who did you use your action on each night or whatever?
[13:19] <Ashtot> you're supressor right?
[13:20] <Yui-Z> XCOM Heavy, yeah
[13:20] <Yui-Z> I can only use my action once
[13:20] <Ashtot> did you use it yet?
[13:20] <Yui-Z> I used it on Mew
[13:20] <Ashtot> oh yeah okay
[13:20] <Ashtot> i forgot
[13:21] <Yui-Z> Sat is probably more likely to be town, I mean, he claims to be in contact with the DT and another blue which I forgot
[13:21] <Yui-Z> Those blue roles haven't died yet either

The second I find much more interesting:

[12:04] <Ashtot> why did you kill mew
[12:05] <Yui-Z> Why are you asking me this now? It's done. You know the reason I killed mew
[12:08] <Ashtot> but why take that risk?>
[12:08] <Ashtot> it doesnt seem like you
[12:08] <Ashtot> especially since you only have 1 shot
[12:08] <Yui-Z> I was so certain that she was scum.
[12:08] <Yui-Z> If this isn't me, then I don't know what is.
[12:09] <Ashtot> but i even said
[12:09] <Ashtot> like why would she claim scum in the thread
[12:09] <Ashtot> that makes no sense
[12:09] <Yui-Z> I sent the action in at beginning of night. I wouldn't have predicted the future
[12:09] <Ashtot> scum wouldnt claim blue or a pr in the thread
[12:09] <Ashtot> ?
[12:10] <Yui-Z> What?
[12:10] <Ashtot> what do you mean you couldn't predict the future
[12:10] <Yui-Z> I mean, I can't change my action once I've sent it
[12:11] <Yui-Z> and you pointed it out afterwards
[12:11] <Ashtot> no
[12:11] <Ashtot> i pointed it out on day 1
[12:11] <Yui-Z> It still seemed scummy of her, which is why I went for the kill
[12:11] <Ashtot> i pointed it out again later
[12:11] <Yui-Z> Everyone I spoke to agreed anyway
[12:11] <Ashtot> who did you speak to?
[12:11] <Yui-Z> Sat and a few others
[12:11] <Yui-Z> This was afterwards^
[12:11] <Ashtot> who are the few others?
[12:12] <Yui-Z> The few others? Andy and Sat. Oops, that's not a few.
[12:12] <Yui-Z> Make that a couple of others.

As you can see, she tries to use the excuse that I hadn't pointed it out until after she had sent in her action, and eventually just falls back on her being "scummy". She pointed out that a few others agreed with her, and wanting to know more, I asked. AndyB and Sataric just happened to be the people who told Yui Z to make that shot and kill Mew, which I find very interesting, because I talked with AndyB about Mew's softclaim and he seemed to agree. Why exactly would he tell Yui Z to kill her then?

Also note that AndyB and Yui Z both voted for Moron over CookingOkasan. Now as for Sataric, he was behind Mew being killed, but what stands out to me the most, is the fact that he wasn't killed tonight. I would think that mafia would do anything in their power to get him killed, but they didn't. And then there's the fact that he just happened to change from protecting himself to killing NikkiNikki. I'm betting he's scum, and claimed as a Jack simply because he could and knew that the DT he's in contact with trusted him enough to not inspect him. I could be way off here, but this is just what I think right now.

Me and AndyB

[13:15] <AndyB> Hey
[13:15] <Ashtot> what
[13:16] <AndyB> Excuse me?
[13:16] <Ashtot> sorry
[13:16] <Ashtot> i meant whtas up
[13:17] <AndyB> Haha, it's fine. Nothing, really... lazy day, feel bleh.
[13:17] <AndyB> You?
[13:18] <AndyB> What's the plan amigo?
[13:18] <Ashtot> I dunno
[13:19] <AndyB> I don't like how both Tom and Oath essentially called me out for voting Moron over Okasan.
[13:20] <Ashtot> Well I don't really understand why you did
[13:20] <Ashtot> l,ike whats the point
[13:20] <Ashtot> seems scummy
[13:20] <AndyB> As I said in the thread, it's more of a damn lead than "let's point at someone random and hope they flip red"
[13:20] <AndyB> Like has happened and doesn't ever bloody work.
[13:20] <Ashtot> but he admitted red and there was decent evidence
[13:20] <AndyB> And Okasan was dying anyway.
[13:20] <Ashtot> and he flipped red
[13:21] <AndyB> Yeah, and even if I changed my vote or not he was dying.
[13:22] <AndyB> I mean, if you want to check me, shoot me tonight, then go ahead.
[13:22] <Ashtot> I'm not saying that
[13:22] <Ashtot> chill out
[13:22] <Ashtot> just didnt understand why
[13:22] <AndyB> YuiZ did too, and we know she's Heavy.
[13:22] <AndyB> Do we know who the DT is yet?
[13:23] <AndyB> Or is it still a fart in the wind rumour?
[13:23] <Ashtot> still dont know

He got a bit defensive over nothing which I found a bit strange.

Another person on my mind is oath but I honestly don't know about him.
Before I finish reading this post, I need to point something out before anyone comments on it first. You completely misunderstood what I was saying. Andy and Sat never told me to make that shot, and what I was saying was that they agreed or kind of agreed that Mew looked scummy. We never spoke until after I shot Mew.
 
I'd be willing to vote Yui z too. Her play style is similar of how she was scum in frozen mafia.
 
I'd be willing to vote Yui z too. Her play style is similar of how she was scum in frozen mafia.

Lol because of this comment I'd actually be more willing to lynch you. The fact that you jumped on a lynch for her this quick and the limited amount of people left to be scum (which includes you) makes me think you would be a great lynch.
 
Lol because of this comment I'd actually be more willing to lynch you. The fact that you jumped on a lynch for her this quick and the limited amount of people left to be scum (which includes you) makes me think you would be a great lynch.

Well, I do have to agree that she has a good point, Yui Z IS similar to being scum in Frozen. Making plans with one or two people, intergrating herself into town circles.

She did jump on WAY too fast.
 
Well, I do have to agree that she has a good point, Yui Z IS similar to being scum in Frozen. Making plans with one or two people, intergrating herself into town circles.

She did jump on WAY too fast.

They're probably both scum.
 
Well, I do have to agree that she has a good point, Yui Z IS similar to being scum in Frozen. Making plans with one or two people, intergrating herself into town circles.

She did jump on WAY too fast.
I'd just like to point out that my play style is rarely consistent. It really depends how I'm feeling and what mood I'm in and, honestly, I haven't had much to say this game. I'd say it's better than me spamming the thread with useless information.
I like to try and put thought into my posts.

Just XCOM Heavy with a used up action.
 
Care to share with the class?

Sure, why not. I have nothing to hide.

Yui Z said:
You seem extremely scummy right now. Please explain to me why you aren't defending yourself, despite being brought up by several people (including myself).

Has Sataric really been PMing you? Have you really been ignoring them? It'd be good if you could tell me as much as you can to lower my suspicions of you.

Thanks.

Mewmewmewm said:
Yes, Sataric and Ashtot both pmed me once asking me my role. However it was really early in the game and i didn't really trust them enough to just give it out like that. I made a mistake like that in a previous game and i would rather not repeat it. Basically sataric is saying that i'm "posting different" from other games which i feel like i'm not doing but i don't know *shrugs*
Even though i've worked with sataric a lot in the last game we played together i didn't want to just trust her because of that.


Yui Z said:
Yes, I can understand that. Ashtot asked me about my role too, although I didn't give him my role for the same reason as you. However, you still haven't explained why you're not defending yourself in the thread.

It's fairly obvious that I hinted for her to explain why she didn't defend herself. Never got a reply after that. Sure, go ahead and say it was a dumb move. I agree, but at the time I was certain of her being scum.
 
Sure, why not. I have nothing to hide.


It's fairly obvious that I hinted for her to explain why she didn't defend herself. Never got a reply after that. Sure, go ahead and say it was a dumb move. I agree, but at the time I was certain of her being scum.

I wonder when people will realize that I asked everyone in the game for their role?
 
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