if I re-read it and understand I will post saying ok lets go... but this is literally my first real game of mafia, so I just don't know whats happening
Were gonna be looking at the same odds of getting mafia in a lynch at some point in this game whether its day one or day two or whatever.... however we get more time to weigh our options and decide on whose mafia by not lynching, we are gonna lower our odds of overall success though by expediting the lynching of our own freaking people, so if we aren't sure then we should just bow out....
you have to think if the flow of this conversation was going towards lynching someone who wasn't mafia, don't you think the mafia would WANT us to then go ahead and lynch someone?
I really do understand the whole "success rate of lynches mentality" but maybe its my newness to this game that still doesn't make that seem right...
and honestly if I was mafia and saying all this it would make me the biggest freaking target ever, so do you really think I would be going out of my way this much to put my neck on the line if I didn't actually believe that NL is the better option?
ok.... I'm just trying to comprehend it all, you gonna pigeonhole me for trying to understand this... people think in different ways all the time and this is literally my first game of mafia here. I just don't foresee the advantage of random lynching vs more informed lynching, we clearly want to go along with the whole lynching first day thing, so I'm game with it since you all have more experience than I do... I will just watch this to see how it all plays out. Note I'm not doing all this to sway us one way because thats clearly not working, but rather play devil's advocate just in case others saw NL as good option too
and go ahead, lynch me.... but you will be sorry
why on earth is having guilt on Qwerty's vote making me a target.... if anything it should assure you I'm not mafia, if I was mafia and finally gotten all that attention off me and on to someone else don't you think I would've shut up?
where I'm coming from is this.... yes I whole-heartedly believed that NL was a better strategy as someone who is completely new to actually playing this game, however after all this backlash I've been getting and looking into more and trying to understand the other perspective, I'm convinced that yeah its probably a better strategy to at least TRY to get someone rather than just rolling over to let the mafia come get us. BUT as someone who was originally (like a few horus ago) and genuinely convinced that NL was a good idea, you can imagine that, now that I'm onboard for d1 lynching, I want to make sure we at least can have a shadow of a doubt that the person we are lynching is the best option... so when I found it weird that Qwerty just gave up, it was a red flag that maybe they aren't really a mafia after all and they are just fed up with trying to prove their innocence to their own people and that maybe we should rethink it, I wanted to start a conversation about it in general.... lord knows I know the feeling of explaining innocence! I'm sorry if you think I'm flip flopping on whether you should fight or not if you get pegged, but I felt like explaining myself was very necessary as getting lynched for genuine newness to the game is gonna be the worst story ever....
Alright. In the unfortunate, and probable lynching of yours truly, I've gathered all my thoughts.
>If I am lynched(and innocent, of course), who drove my lynch without much reason? Toadworthy and Lynn voted for me but didn't have much to say on the matter. (Unless I missed it) Kinda puts my theory of them working together more valid. I'm super suspicious of both of them. Especially with Toadworthy always banging on about how unexperienced he is. We get it! We're all unexperienced here!
>if anyone at all is lynched, and innocent, check their posts on the first page! Here's all mine, for example. http://www.belltreeforums.com/search.php?searchid=5497857
nobody drove your lynch more than alexi, but they've done nothing sus in my case.
lynn was quick to support a side, but that's all we've got from em.
right now we need a vote from inkling and a vote from cutiee and it depends on their vote. :'/
Nnn.. Alexi kinda made valid points mostly.
seriously, why would I put myself BACK out there after all that.... I did it because I genuinely want us to get someone, and sorry if I had my doubts about Qwerty and voiced my opinion about it.
@toad.
i find your flop weird though.
like scum trying to seem townie.
you stated you're all for the NL, 100% don't wanna lynch anybody but you wen't for qwerty's lynch anyway?
and then you seemed to try to flip that and reach out to see if anyone felt guilt for it? it's like you flipped around because qwerty was a weak mislynch so that means that maybe you're mafia and you're covering for someone else + yourself?
you + lynn?
you + heloxcutiee?
you + inkling?
the biggest red flag has been you.
and I am sorry about the go ahead and lynch me, you will be sorry statement! I realize now that Scum or Town, it looks really pretentious, and if I go out, I don't wanna be remembered that way
why on earth is having guilt on Qwerty's vote making me a target.... if anything it should assure you I'm not mafia, if I was mafia and finally gotten all that attention off me and on to someone else don't you think I would've shut up?
where I'm coming from is this.... yes I whole-heartedly believed that NL was a better strategy as someone who is completely new to actually playing this game, however after all this backlash I've been getting and looking into more and trying to understand the other perspective, I'm convinced that yeah its probably a better strategy to at least TRY to get someone rather than just rolling over to let the mafia come get us. BUT as someone who was originally (like a few horus ago) and genuinely convinced that NL was a good idea, you can imagine that, now that I'm onboard for d1 lynching, I want to make sure we at least can have a shadow of a doubt that the person we are lynching is the best option... so when I found it weird that Qwerty just gave up, it was a red flag that maybe they aren't really a mafia after all and they are just fed up with trying to prove their innocence to their own people and that maybe we should rethink it, I wanted to start a conversation about it in general.... lord knows I know the feeling of explaining innocence! I'm sorry if you think I'm flip flopping on whether you should fight or not if you get pegged, but I felt like explaining myself was very necessary as getting lynched for genuine newness to the game is gonna be the worst story ever....
Alright. In the unfortunate, and probable lynching of yours truly, I've gathered all my thoughts.
>If I am lynched(and innocent, of course), who drove my lynch without much reason? Toadworthy and Lynn voted for me but didn't have much to say on the matter. (Unless I missed it) Kinda puts my theory of them working together more valid. I'm super suspicious of both of them. Especially with Toadworthy always banging on about how unexperienced he is. We get it! We're all unexperienced here!
>if anyone at all is lynched, and innocent, check their posts on the first page! Here's all mine, for example. http://www.belltreeforums.com/search.php?searchid=5497857
Wouldn't they shut their mouth instead? Why focus the lynch on someone else if someone is nearly close to being lynched? like from scum point of view why would you even do thatsince you eventually jumped on board with everyone else for qwerty's lynch and now you're feeling like "they might not actually be the scum!"
why would you state you "genuinely want to lynch the scum" but you were once 100% on board for the NL?
why are you so defensive right now?
I made that thought process change, because if we were gonna get anything done as townies we needed to be on the same page... and I wasn't being helpful to that by playing devil's advocate anymore! so I switched my efforts onto trying to figure out a mafia to picking someone to lynch, since thats what a majority of us (whether it was mafia or town)wanted to do, I wasn't being any help by constantly whining at us not to lynch! and yes what Alexi said about Qwerty's flip flopping on who to pick was getting supremely weird, they didn't seem to exlain their thoughts change very well.... and seemed content on calling out someone else, so long as it wasn't them....
and I am sorry about the go ahead and lynch me, you will be sorry statement! I realize now that Scum or Town, it looks really pretentious, and if I go out, I don't wanna be remembered that way