TBT PRESIDENTIAL POLLS

[L. Lawliet]

There are many better jobs out there than spending all day out in extreme heat building a wall. You probably wouldn't even get paid since there won't be enough money for the wall because Mexico isn't paying for the wall, and Trump has a history of stiffing workers.

not if they use local construction companies. saves on costs and helps me build muscle that i really need.
and for the costs, My state is fine. one of the few economically good states rn

 

[Bowie]

The day that man builds a wall will be the day that hell freezes over. There's a higher chance of Hilary apologising to Bernie for sabotaging his campaign, and that's saying something.

 

[DoctorGallifrey]

Already voted for Trump. Hillary's policies seem better, but she's a liar, and all these wikileaks and Project Veritas videos don't paint a pretty picture for the establishment, so I decided to vote to burn it down.

However, if doge was an option, I would've voted doge. Or heck give us a 2 year break so we can find some better candidates.

So you voted for someone whose policies (Which they never really clearly state what they are lol) don't match Hillary's which you say her's seem better. But you vote Trump because you want to finish "burning" the establishment because of WikiLeaks and Veritas (which may or may not be fabricated?).

Glad that you take this election seriously lol

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Im voting trump. he is the shiniest of the 2 turds. Like, Hillary wants more Islamic refugees, which is ok cayse they need help. However, as shown by europe, they arent too tolerant towards LGBT people there, and thats something important to me.

Also, i would get a job building the wall

Like the typical Trump supporter is 100% gay rights lol. Way to vote against something that interests you

 

[seliph]

Im voting trump. he is the shiniest of the 2 turds. Like, Hillary wants more Islamic refugees, which is ok cayse they need help. However, as shown by europe, they arent too tolerant towards LGBT people there, and thats something important to me.

Also, i would get a job building the wall

Trump wants to abolish the laws that protect LGBT people from being discriminated against in the workplace as well as the laws that protect them from being murdered out of "shock".

 

[L. Lawliet]

So you voted for someone whose policies (Which they never really clearly state what they are lol) don't match Hillary's which you say her's seem better. But you vote Trump because you want to finish "burning" the establishment because of WikiLeaks and Veritas (which may or may not be fabricated?).

Glad that you take this election seriously lol

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Like the typical Trump supporter is 100% gay rights lol. Way to vote against something that interests you

That's what makes me atypical hun
Trump doesnt give a damn about people's orientation. As long as he gets money and the american people are happy, he doesnt care who you are married to. What he is against is HOW the LGBT marriage was legalized. It should be up to the states rather than the federal government. Otherwise, we end up with situations like Kim Davis.

Trump wants to abolish the laws that protect LGBT people from being discriminated against in the workplace as well as the laws that protect them from being murdered out of "shock".

as someone who has watched all of his rally's and read his websites policies, this is the exact opposite of what he wants to do. as stated above, he doesnt car who is married to who. It was the PROCESS that he has a problem with

And on a further note, is't the harassment of political views the exact same thing as you are describing? Why should we be called names for wanting to support one candidate over another?

 

[Stalfos]

Omg. It's the Flat Earth Society all over again.

 

[DoctorGallifrey]

That's what makes me atypical hun
Trump doesnt give a damn about people's orientation. As long as he gets money and the american people are happy, he doesnt care who you are married to. What he is against is HOW the LGBT marriage was legalized. It should be up to the states rather than the federal government. Otherwise, we end up with situations like Kim Davis.

I hope you do realize that situations like Kim Davis would've happened regardless?

It still doesn't make sense to me, that you would vote for somebody and a party in which they don't support something that you consider important to you. Cause last time I check Republican ideology and LGBT Rights don't mix with one another. Shoot, Trumps own VP is for Conversion Therapy which has been proven to be ineffective and actually leads to suicide.

 

[DoctorGallifrey]

That's what makes me atypical hun
Trump doesnt give a damn about people's orientation. As long as he gets money and the american people are happy, he doesnt care who you are married to. What he is against is HOW the LGBT marriage was legalized. It should be up to the states rather than the federal government. Otherwise, we end up with situations like Kim Davis.

I hope you do realize that situations like Kim Davis would've happened regardless?

It still doesn't make sense to me, that you would vote for somebody and a party in which they don't support something that you consider important to you. Cause last time I check Republican ideology and LGBT Rights don't mix with one another. Shoot, Trumps own VP is for Conversion Therapy which has been proven to be ineffective and actually leads to suicide

 

[L. Lawliet]

I hope you do realize that situations like Kim Davis would've happened regardless?

It still doesn't make sense to me, that you would vote for somebody and a party in which they don't support something that you consider important to you. Cause last time I check Republican ideology and LGBT Rights don't mix with one another. Shoot, Trumps own VP is for Conversion Therapy which has been proven to be ineffective and actually leads to suicide

I know. I dislike his VP choice, but personally, the VP holds very little power in my eyes.
And trump has started a reformation of the republican party. No more is it the "hold on to old ways" party, but rather an Anti Globalism party. One that truly puts america first.

Hell, the most prominent journalist around this party is Milo Yiannapolous, and he is a Jewish Gay immigrant. Whatever narrative you have may need some re evaluation.

 

[Bowie]

Gay marriage should be supported as a universal belief system and passed without question. Hilary changed her mind about gay marriage only when she started running for president, because she knew that she'd have no hope in hell of ever getting anywhere if she wasn't down with the kids (hence the "delete your account" nonsense). I think Trump probably feels the same way.

In any other situation, Trump would be 100% against it, but I think he's a clever enough man to understand he is outnumbered in that respect. Both candidates are manipulating the culture of modern civilisation to get their own way, with no regard whatsoever for the social consequences. Bernie Sanders was the only candidate who gave a single thought about the American people, and it broke my heart when he started endorsing her. I'm sure, in all honesty, he felt like this was a "vote not Trump" situation.

Trump encourages violence at his rallies (I've seen it with my own eyes), disrespects women, and his supporters have little to no care for LGBT+ rights or racial issues at all. It reminds me of what went on here with Brexit; the people voted for something out of wanting singular issues solved, and didn't care about anything else. Trump's supporters only care about his stance on immigration.

 

[KaydeeKrunk]

HOW ARE THERE SO MANY VOTES? Oh my looooord. XD

 

[L. Lawliet]

Gay marriage should be supported as a universal belief system and passed without question. Hilary changed her mind about gay marriage only when she started running for president, because she knew that she'd have no hope in hell of ever getting anywhere if she wasn't down with the kids (hence the "delete your account" nonsense). I think Trump probably feels the same way.

In any other situation, Trump would be 100% against it, but I think he's a clever enough man to understand he is outnumbered in that respect. Both candidates are manipulating the culture of modern civilisation to get their own way, with no regard whatsoever for the social consequences. Bernie Sanders was the only candidate who gave a single thought about the American people, and it broke my heart when he started endorsing her. I'm sure, in all honesty, he felt like this was a "vote not Trump" situation.

Trump's encourages violence at his rallies (I've seen it with my own eyes), disrespects women, and his supporters have little to no care for LGBT+ rights or racial issues at all. It reminds me of what went on here with Brexit; the people voted for something out of wanting singular issues solved, and didn't care about anything else. Trump's supporters only care about his stance on immigration.

Oi there, once those singular issues are solved, then we can improve. Immigration needs a complete overhaul. More funding, quicker process, and better handling. And yes, there is violence at some rallies in more liberal leaning cities. It's unfortunate, and those people should not be tolerated.

Brexit was a mess. I supported Britain leaving due to Britain paying a good chunk of money to the EU and not seeing much benefit. However, once it passed, Nigel Farrage should have overseen the aftermath. It was irresponsible of him to leave it. Dave Cameron should have also stayed, but i understand why he left.

Trump is not the real enemy here guys and girls. It's globalism. Take a step back to see the full picture. Look into the Wikileaks emails, George Soro's influence, and Hillary's Foreign donors. She is not for the american people.

 

[seliph]

Milo Yabbadabbadoo is for LGBT rights like Godzilla was for building and maintaining cities.

You couldn't have picked a worse person to use as a "gotcha". Just because someone's gay doesn't mean they can't be homophobic (believe it or not) or bigoted in any other ways.

 

[Bowie]

Oi there, once those singular issues are solved, then we can improve. Immigration needs a complete overhaul. More funding, quicker process, and better handling. And yes, there is violence at some rallies in more liberal leaning cities. It's unfortunate, and those people should not be tolerated.

Brexit was a mess. I supported Britain leaving due to Britain paying a good chunk of money to the EU and not seeing much benefit. However, once it passed, Nigel Farrage should have overseen the aftermath. It was irresponsible of him to leave it. Dave Cameron should have also stayed, but i understand why he left.

Trump is not the real enemy here guys and girls. It's globalism. Take a step back to see the full picture. Look into the Wikileaks emails, George Soro's influence, and Hillary's Foreign donors. She is not for the american people.

You don't vote for something as huge as a president just to solve a single issue, and that's exactly what Trump supporters are doing. Have they not stopped to consider all the other things this man intends to do? With Brexit, the same sorta thing happened.

Nobody really had a plan, and both parties crumbled to their knees. I honestly think that they didn't expect the public would vote to leave. I also think those that voted to leave didn't know it was gonna actually happen, as dumb as that sounds. But, again, it's because of singular issues. You can't base your entire political stance on one small factor of society. Hitler wanted to be an artist.

Hilary isn't for the American people, that's for sure, but neither is Trump. They're both as ridiculous as each other and, in my opinion, Hilary should be disqualified for the email situation and Bernie should take her place.

 

[DoctorGallifrey]

I know. I dislike his VP choice, but personally, the VP holds very little power in my eyes.
And trump has started a reformation of the republican party. No more is it the "hold on to old ways" party, but rather an Anti Globalism party. One that truly puts america first.

Hell, the most prominent journalist around this party is Milo Yiannapolous, and he is a Jewish Gay immigrant. Whatever narrative you have may need some re evaluation.

I agree with you there, the VP doesn't hold much power.


Another issue I have with Trump and his VP pick, is that if we elect him as our president, then we say to the world "Hey everything he says is okay." We further legitimize them. While we might not actually say it, him winning, means we're okay with sexual assualt, racism, homophobia, islamaphobia, xenophobia, etc. Yes, we should care about our own country, but our impact on the global scale is huge, and we just can't suddenly pull out of that. I'd argue to say it's far too late for that.

I wouldn't say that he's too prominent, I've barely heard of him. However. he's problematic too, with claims like "Everywhere without a strong Christian heritage is a ****ed up place with no morals." Also, he's just one Gay Conservative journalist, I can almost guarantee there are more Liberal ones than there are Conservative ones. Plus, just because someone is gay doesn't mean they're Pro-LGBT rights, they can be very much a homophobe.

 

[L. Lawliet]

I agree with you there, the VP doesn't hold much power.


Another issue I have with Trump and his VP pick, is that if we elect him as our president, then we say to the world "Hey everything he says is okay." We further legitimize them. While we might not actually say it, him winning, means we're okay with sexual assualt, racism, homophobia, islamaphobia, xenophobia, etc. Yes, we should care about our own country, but our impact on the global scale is huge, and we just can't suddenly pull out of that. I'd argue to say it's far too late for that.

I wouldn't say that he's too prominent, I've barely heard of him. However. he's problematic too, with claims like "Everywhere without a strong Christian heritage is a ****ed up place with no morals." Also, he's just one Gay Conservative journalist, I can almost guarantee there are more Liberal ones than there are Conservative ones. Plus, just because someone is gay doesn't mean they're Pro-LGBT rights, they can be very much a homophobe.

yes. but you have completely missed my point. What i am saying is the republican party has been hijacked. Pence more than likely was a pick to get more voters. A good chunk of the republican party dislikes trump. As an atheist, I dont give a damn about the religious parts. But some people do care. Hence the pence pick. The GOP party is now the Alt right party. We crashed their plane with no survivors. but now, it has been born anew. once the older republicans die off due to age, you will see that. Younger republicans dont tend to care about sexual orientation, race, or religion. Sure similar to them is preferable, but when you have a movement as important as this one, one to put a stop to globalism, we need all the help we can get.

this explains globalism pretty well.

 

[zoetrope]

I never would've imagined that the Republican Party would be dying but would be replaced with something far scarier. Almost makes me want to go back to the Bush years.

Please hold me.

 

[L. Lawliet]

I never would've imagined that the Republican Party would be dying but would be replaced with something far scarier. Almost makes me want to go back to the Bush years.

Please hold me.

You could take solace in the fact that for four years after tuesday nobody here will care too much about election politics and the moral ambiguity of this election will all be over. We can go back to a sense of normalcy and not all hate eachother for worldview and instead trade virtual animals and clothing on a forum on a childrens life simulation game

 

[LambdaDelta]

how in the hell is it even possible to be undecided at this point?

like what more could you people even need to know?

 

[Qwerty111]

i thought this was a jared thread